IGC apply for bank guarantee

3-3-2012 19:57

According to a message on Twitter, India Gaming Carnival organizers have applied for a bank guarantee.

The move comes amid the public voicing their concern about the legitimacy of the event on various gaming-related forums. Many are doubting their ability to pay the announced prize purse.

Bank guarantees are not too common in the world of Counter-Strike. One of the first events that did it was shgOpen in 2007, followed by ESWC and the brand's new owners in 2010.

Hoping to fend of criticism, the India Gaming Carnival organizers now follow suit and have applied for a bank guarantee, according to their official Twitter account.

India Gaming Carnival has been announced to take place between April 6-8, with $40,000 put into Counter-Strike's prize fund. In total, the event boasts a stunning $300,000 prize pool.

interesting

2012-03-03 19:58

Ok?

2012-03-03 19:58

Good

2012-03-03 19:59

good, if it's true.

2012-03-03 20:00

Excellent news, we might now have another great event this year.

2012-03-03 20:00

nice,hope its true.

2012-03-03 20:00

thats good!

2012-03-03 20:00

hell yeah! 1.6 too strong

2012-03-03 20:01

2 replies

its dying

2012-03-04 05:43

POLAND STRONGER

2012-03-04 11:24

The move comes amid the public voicing their concern about the legitimacy of the event on various gaming-related forums. Many are doubting their ability to pay the announced prize purse. *true story

2012-03-03 20:01

FUCKING NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2012-03-03 20:02

nice , hope to see a good tournament

2012-03-03 20:02

Great, just change the date please.

2012-03-03 20:03

2 replies

/agree

2012-03-03 21:28

2012-03-05 10:06

If it's true, it's fucking great.

2012-03-03 20:04

Still race to 9?

2012-03-03 20:05

11 replies

Mayb true coz its an open to all tournament unlike the only invited team tournaments!!!so we'll xpect anywer between 200+ clans!!! so do u still think race to 16 wud b a gud option?

2012-03-03 20:18

10 replies

200+ ? Rly? haha

2012-03-03 20:18

9 replies

big country u know!!!

2012-03-03 20:19

8 replies

I know that India is big country, but i don't think that will be 200 clans, its maybe just my opinion but i think that there wont be 64 teams, i don't know why but i think that.

2012-03-03 20:21

7 replies

mayb ur right, but it was just a guess considering d response people r giving on their fb page.. lets see!!!

2012-03-03 20:26

IN normal college tourneys we have around 100+ clans for 10000 rs only. Just imagine how many clans will turn up for 2000000 rs

2012-03-03 20:40

5 replies

I hope that we will see 200+ clans but hardly, i would really like to see that amount. :)

2012-03-03 21:19

3 replies

I hope 200 clans dont turn up coz it will be very difficult to complete the tourney in time in 3 days.

2012-03-03 21:28

india has a population of 1 billion unlikely to europe (montenegro half a million:\) wouldn`t be suprised if they fill that nr even though it may look so impossible for us :)

2012-03-03 22:39

obviously there will be a hefty entry fee as well, dont forget that :)

2012-03-04 13:50

how many will turn up where the registration is 5000 rs, + they know thy will lose they may come in to view the games

2012-03-04 16:48

YES, That's the way you should do it. \m/

2012-03-03 20:05

Great move.

2012-03-03 20:05

Hope to see top teams there.

2012-03-03 20:06

it was needed and i hope navi and sk gaming and winfakt come now

2012-03-03 20:06

7 replies

all 3 teams are signed up for CPH Games.

2012-03-03 21:29

6 replies

navi didnt signed up ^^

2012-03-04 04:07

5 replies

Check for yourself - Natus Vincere ZeroGravity. Dont suppose ZeroGravity signs up without the rest of Na´Vi..

2012-03-04 05:03

4 replies

he is the manager of other navi teams (like dota for example) maybe they are playing... i think CPH is more than just 1.6

2012-03-04 07:55

1 reply

There is no such thing as a dota tournament at CPH Games.

2012-03-04 08:50

Na`Vi have "League of Legends" team aswell so dont talk if you dont know.

2012-03-04 13:47

1 reply

Na´vi dont have a LoL team, according to their website -nor updates on facebook navi-gaming.com/content.php?page=team&a... *Edit: I will take that back, just saw on their facebook site, that they indeed had a LoL squad. However, the prizes are very low at CPH Games, when looking at the LoL part. So dont count on it :)

2012-03-04 14:38

Nice :) Other tournaments should do the same.

2012-03-03 20:08

that's a good proof

2012-03-03 20:08

now dats sumthing cool.... Dis move will shut all the crticizers for sumtime atleast......

2012-03-03 20:09

now TAKE THAT.....

2012-03-03 20:11

@ Phony Banks Ltd.

2012-03-03 20:18

I bet they silent a lot of ppl at this point, nice move IGC.

2012-03-03 20:20

would be great if SK NaVi ESC fnatic Lions mouz tyloo winfakt check6 M5 comes.otherwise will be boring wid sucky indian teams :(

2012-03-03 20:25

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from interview with kuben : What future plans do you guys have and what events have you looked into attending? We are already signed in for CPH Games in April and as far as I know the next one is DreamHack Summer and GameGune. We are still waiting for info about WEM in China and we will also attend Polish events. so i dont think that they will attend IGC

2012-03-03 20:36

5 replies

ya sk and esc are surely not gonna attend this event. i wont be able to see forest,neo and trace in my life :(

2012-03-03 20:53

4 replies

yep that's really bad :S I hope that they'll reschedule this event.

2012-03-03 21:06

You never know, maybe next year :D

2012-03-03 21:08

2 replies

:DD

2012-03-03 21:14

I don't think India gonna do this again if international teams are missing this year, they just switch back to CS:S.

2012-03-04 08:42

Great move

2012-03-03 20:25

2012-03-03 20:26

Copenhagen Games will clash with Indian Gaming Carnival. I wish that top teams come to this part of the world, but due to high cost of travelling i don't think they will decide to come, but still GOOD LUCK India, at least taking initiative to increase E-Sports in this part of the world.

2012-03-03 20:27

Great initiative, but bad timing.

2012-03-03 20:29

wanna see which teams are going there

2012-03-03 20:32

top teams will have a hard time picking which event to go to

2012-03-03 20:33

1 reply

esc and sk already to cph games

2012-03-03 20:39

Please postpone the dates to 15-20 days ahead.

2012-03-03 20:34

1 reply

2012-03-03 20:37

I think SK is going to attend since they have not been registered in the CPHGames.

2012-03-03 20:37

4 replies

f0rest said that they're going to cph in his stream. worst timing ever for the indians. :S well, having it at the same time as IEM world or ESWC would be worse though.

2012-03-03 20:48

SK are signed up for CPHGames.. copenhagengames.com/esport/participants/

2012-03-03 21:31

2 replies

But no approved payment for ESC,SK and WinFakt. Maybe they can change their mind.

2012-03-03 22:08

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But CPH Games payed all their prizes 2-3 days after the event. So they will probably take CPH Games anyways.

2012-03-03 23:27

What a great news for us guys, this will be another big tournament this year, i hope: +fnatic +SK +M5 +Na'Vi +semXorah +Winfakt +LIONS

2012-03-03 20:37

1 reply

semxorah? bitch please

2012-03-04 02:21

fnatic and Na'vi have high possibilities of attending IGC :)

2012-03-03 20:42

nice move to get some credibility , i hope the top teams attend this event

2012-03-03 20:43

Be great if it could happen, still the date sucks as it will just make for two mediocre tournaments. honestly from a spectator point of view it would be better to see this fall through so we can watch all the best teams at cph if this goes ahead it will just split the best teams up. Good for CS though.

2012-03-03 20:45

Too sad that this event its on the same date as CPH Games.

2012-03-03 20:49

Nix0n,if possible, pls talk to the organizers of IGC to postpone the date.u can make a difference.

2012-03-03 20:56

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2012-03-03 23:26

lol, its not like cs is their only event, not to mention it takes a lot of time and bookings to be able to organise something like this, it aint gonna change brooooo

2012-03-03 23:42

2 replies

sad..!! ok atleast tell someone who is coming from sweden to bring m gtr and f0rest'z signed tshrt!! :p :D

2012-03-04 05:01

1 reply

yea!!!!! +1 :D

2012-03-04 05:43

why didn't they apply for a business cheque?

2012-03-03 20:58

IGC definitely wont change the dates coz they have booked ayatti resort. Maybe CPH games can postpone, that will be awesome.

2012-03-03 20:58

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It could, but I dont think it is possible, since the place, where it all will happend, has allready been booked, and the organizaers have a good relationship to the owners of the place.

2012-03-03 21:33

the big teams will probably go to copenhagen anyways

2012-03-03 21:01

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OFC because of more travelling expenses and stay. So far only navi from dota have confirmed which I heard from some ear. European teams will prolly go to cph. Chinese teams might attend.

2012-03-03 21:11

I think it will be a split, once two or three top teams rego for CPH the others would probably prefer to go to india where there is more prize money on offer and would be easier to win. Likewise the reverse is also true.

2012-03-04 14:38

Good :)

2012-03-03 21:02

:( sad to read about clashing dates.

2012-03-03 21:04

Hell yeah, good job IGC :D!!

2012-03-03 21:06

5 replies

O.o

2012-03-03 22:00

1 reply

2012-03-03 22:38

not done yet

2012-03-03 23:55

2 replies

It's done for the time being.

2012-03-04 17:41

1 reply

It's been announced, it could still be a lie to make teams register, book their flights and force them to come. The event is very close from now, they have to hurry up or teams won't trust them and the event will be a total failure

2012-03-04 23:56

Woooohoooooo!!! :D

2012-03-03 21:05

5 replies

xD. GOGOGO Pranay ;)

2012-03-03 21:39

Gl bhatia bros :)

2012-03-03 23:50

GL ATE!!!!! Best luck :DDDD

2012-03-04 05:45

1 reply

thanks :D

2012-03-04 17:39

Not expectinG international teams sO A its like a JackPot for ATE :P

2012-03-04 06:51

WinFakt there

2012-03-03 21:07

1 reply

CPH Games?

2012-03-03 21:07

They should reschedule the event if possible :)

2012-03-03 21:08

2012-03-03 21:10

Postpone the event, and it will be perfect

2012-03-03 21:20

6 replies

Maybe CPH games can postpone, that will be awesome.

2012-03-03 21:24

5 replies

Since all the big teams are already attending CPH Games, it would make more sense that way.

2012-03-03 21:26

4 replies

I dont mind anything but since IGC have booked a grand resort/venue in advance for 3 days already i dont think they can postpone now.

2012-03-03 21:29

1 reply

That's too bad I hope it will be a great event eventho

2012-03-03 21:33

But moving an entire carnival makes more sense?

2012-03-03 21:29

1 reply

Not if you put it like that, but looking at the possibly disastrous outcome it could be a good idea. I don't know how much they rely on the professionalism in the teams prior to the event.

2012-03-03 21:32

Nice, maybe some good teams :/

2012-03-03 21:34

If Na`Vi team gets visa>we all know whos winner!

2012-03-03 21:56

2 replies

hahaha true

2012-03-03 22:17

YeA :D I wish atleast 1 of Navi oR fnatic come

2012-03-04 06:52

change dates and gg!

2012-03-03 22:04

1 reply

+11111

2012-03-03 22:10

finally :D

2012-03-03 22:11

nice gl ;)

2012-03-03 22:12

niceeee

2012-03-03 22:12

Good news.. However, the rules for the counter strike tournament are sooo confusing and unclear. Here have a look : "Round 1 Teams will play a race to 9 format wherein out of 16 matches the first one to reach 9 wins will be declared the winner of the round. Losing team has following options: If this is the first loss of the team: Declare defeat and opt out of the tournament. Compete with another team as a part of a double elimination format. Team will compete against the teams who have lost their first round" Then again it says the whole format even reaching semi-finals is still a race to 9.. I mean wtf? Can you explain this to us please?! source : wtf-igc.com/portfolio-view/cs-1/

2012-03-03 22:15

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What explanation you need? Its as simple as that, untill semis it will be race to 9 =))

2012-03-03 22:18

I have never seen a tournament format that consisted of a race to 9 format. If you go on reading the whole tournament rules on the website.. It's just a big question mark :/ .. Race to 9 really? teams travelling from across the globe to play 9 rounds? Edit : Even semis are race to 9 =))

2012-03-03 22:26

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semis race to 9? I dont think so.

2012-03-03 22:29

Why do you insist on defending these rules? I get you're Indian and you're defending the event itself.. I myself want it to work so bad as well, I really wanna go so bad but with such format I really doubt it.. Anyway here you go: Daily Quarter / Semi and Final Rounds KO/Single Elimination Mode. Race to 9 format. Teams play 16 matches against each other the team to score 9 wins first is declared winner of the round.

2012-03-03 22:33

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Dude the semis you are talking about are the daily semis. The actual semis will go like this 3.1.4 Stage 4: Super Six Finals (6 teams, Winner and runner up from the daily pool) Each day winners of the 1st and 2nd position will go on to compete with each other on day 3 of the event in the final showdown. Super Six will pit teams against each other; wherein each winning team will get 2 points for winning a match and 1 point for losing. Once all the teams have faced each other, the top two scoring teams will have a finale match which will decide the winner and a runner up team. Teams play 30 matches against each other the team to score 16 wins first is declared winner of the round and score 2 points.

2012-03-03 22:41

4 replies

These are Cricket rules aren't they? lol.. Seems legit.

2012-03-03 22:43

3 replies

lol

2012-03-03 22:55

Super six is a common format that happens across different sports ... including boxing, Soccer and American football.

2012-03-04 05:42

1 reply

lol comment from an admin!!! zzzzzzzz

2012-03-04 08:59

+1 t0ks !

2012-03-04 09:12

very good idea... I hope all the good teams attend the tournament

2012-03-03 23:15

"Teams play a race to 9 wins from 16 match against other team." What it means? they play 16 maps?! thats crazy

2012-03-03 23:30

7 replies

they mean rounds only niggeh -.-

2012-03-03 23:43

6 replies

i quickly understood, but I was misguided by the rule 16 matches, here in brazil 1 match = 16 rounds minimum. but I understand IGC means rounds as matches lol

2012-03-04 00:02

5 replies

In Brazil and everywhere lol

2012-03-04 01:16

what they meant is since there will be lots of teams participating and most of them will be no namer noobs, the 1st round will consist of only 9 rounds to save time .. more like filtering the crap from finer teams...

2012-03-04 14:02

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i understand the concept, but what is confusing is not that is 9 rounds, but the word the choose instead of rounds. "Matches"

2012-03-04 16:52

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in india... 1 match consist of 9 rounds for the noob side, the rest is 16 ! a match means a full game where the team competes till 1 emerges victor.. isnt it ?

2012-03-04 17:31

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yes i know , you know and I know. what I try to say is that this site info: wtf-igc.com/portfolio-view/cs-1/ is potentially confusing read down to point paragraph 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 and onwards you can read "teams will play a race to 9 matches format wherein out of 16 matches the first one to reach 9 matches wins" it sounded like they mean bo9 not bo3, thats all i try to point my finger on, nothing special. first i was confused, but now i understand what they REALLY MEANT TO SAY and everything is ok, world order is restored :/

2012-03-04 17:41

Basically I like to see esports grow everywhere, and especially in countries like india / pakistan. But facts are that running two big events at the same time, and targetting the same game and teams - just doesnt work. Copenhagen Games is to be held for the third time. Dates, agreements etc. with the City of Copenhagen, the venue etc. has been fixed until 2014 - so we wont be able to move anything. I think it is probably the same situation for the indian event. Too bad when to very good efforts have to compete in this way - would have preferred to do some kind of cooperation instead.

2012-03-04 00:04

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IGC moderators already said they can't change dates as they already paid for the venue :S Plus April 6, Good friday - National Holiday April 7,Saturday - Holiday April 8,Sunday - Holiday

2012-03-04 06:55

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Exactly. Its too bad. On the other hand, with more and more events emerging around the world, all aiming for global gaming at a competetive level - this will probably and unfortunately happen more often in future.

2012-03-04 11:39

...hope it's true.

2012-03-04 00:36

Haha, posting a bank guarantee over twitter. It's a shame this sort of this has become news.

2012-03-04 00:57

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well for a company that doesn't have well established roots, things like these actually become big news... :P LOL... Recommendation for you - never become a businessman, u'll ruin ur future as u have no idea abt advertising.. :P

2012-03-04 10:55

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Haha. I would rebut that the "business" of holding competitions for computer games is a dead end to start with. However with that being said. I was talking about guarantees in this hobby as a whole. They shouldn't be news, they should be exactly what they are. A guarantee, an unwritten expectation that is met by all parties involved.

2012-03-04 16:30

this'll be GREAT.!

2012-03-04 01:26

i stopped reading at 'According to a message on Twitter'

2012-03-04 02:37

As far I know Na`Vi didnt signed up for CPH Games, so they have big chances to win first place ;) + MOOOOOONEY

2012-03-04 04:08

HAHAHAHA FTW~ @ Rest: Don't scream for sponsors now :))

2012-03-04 04:58

Awesome news hope this shut some trollers.

2012-03-04 05:13

m5 would attend as I know. but they wouldn't go to cph games :( are this 2 tournaments in same time?

2012-03-04 05:50

it can be good or bad

2012-03-04 05:51

GO GO india.................. ;)

2012-03-04 06:00

CPH: ESC SK WinFakt mouz Lions Anexis IGC: Na'Vi M5 fnatic TyLoo

2012-03-04 06:10

3 replies

awesome nick dude

2012-03-04 07:02

what?fnatic coming to igc?seriously? it will be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2012-03-04 08:33

1 reply

No they aren't. They are already signed up for CPH games.

2012-03-04 15:47

it's just moronic to make the IGC the same day as CPH (which booked months and months in advance) If you are the 'new' event, it's your responsibility to check the dates of existing events, if you want to compete. Especially since there is always an element of 'doubt' being the 'new event'. Not to mention EU teams can travel to DK for like a 10th of the cost to travel to India.

2012-03-04 08:00

2 replies

+1.. u guys plz don't come.. we want to keep the money in our country itself :P :P

2012-03-04 09:00

1 reply

hahhaha nice one scrypton

2012-03-04 09:06

We dont need anymore INDIAN ARMY to keep fighting the stupid trolls, come here n play this if u want, else dont, Good Job IGC

2012-03-04 08:33

Troll Mode OFF!

2012-03-04 09:01

gr88 news...INDIA ROCKSS

2012-03-04 09:08

alwez. :P

2012-03-04 09:14

There are many teams intrested from UAE to join this tournament pls some responsible person confirm us the rules and regulation!

2012-03-04 09:14

Might be an amateur tournament if none of the teams from IEM WC come...

2012-03-04 09:20

4 replies

You should come :D

2012-03-04 09:39

2 replies

I wish, but i dont have the time or money :(

2012-03-04 09:40

1 reply

Damn this unfair world where opportunities are only given to the rich :X

2012-03-04 09:45

will be fuck all if they dont come, cuz the top teams will regret about losing 40k $ ;)

2012-03-04 09:45

Well done IGC :) I hope this becomes the 1st event in a long list of equally kick ass 'carnivals' :D

2012-03-04 09:39

yeah India rock this year!!!!!!!!! but the problem is the conflict between CPH i wish India could postpone or somthing :D

2012-03-04 10:42

lets hope lurppis will keep his words , that he will attend on this tour if they do a bank guarantee , and if WF do ofc there will be alot of more teams.

2012-03-04 10:48

nice move

2012-03-04 11:09

I dont think that just because SK and ESC dont attend this carnival that will make it a flop.Teams like fnatic NAVI winfakt and other european teams would be more interested in attending IGC rather then CPH cause the other top teams are anyways attending CPH games.Thus the competetion at IGC would be much less for them. Also we are just talking about cs 1.6 here.. there are dozens and dozens of games at the carnival and it would not affect the organizers a bit if teams like SK ESC dont show up,yes ofcourse we wont get to see players like GTR trace neo forest in action but otherwise it wont affect the carnival in any way. I also think teams from china korea would show for this carnival. Just wait for some more days , after they issue a bank guarantee there would be a rush of international teams getting registered Good job IGC!!!

2012-03-04 17:03

To the IGC admin - You really need to focus on the cs 1.6 rules. The only reason now i see that some international teams wont show up is your 9 round format.You really need to change it for the better.There is always a chance that even a team like fnatic could lose out to some mediocre team in a race to 9 format.They would never risk travelling so much just to play 9 rounds in a best of 1 map to qualify further.It does not make sense.I know there will be like tons of indian clans getting registered and it wont affect you organizers if teams like fnatic or navi dont show up(money wise) but to set a mark in esports and to grab international attention you need BIG names.I mean even local teams like ATE could lose out cause of this silly rule.

2012-03-04 17:14

n1 igc:)

2012-03-04 17:26

These guys want to gobble entry fee money.. thats why there are 200+ clans for cs... Invite 32 teams at the max. and do it like its done everywhere else..

2012-03-04 17:43

Please do a qualifier for Indian teams as there will be hundreds of teams coming in and most of them would be noob teams. Top 10(or watever) teams from the qualifier qualify for the IGC final tourney against rest of the International teams.

2012-03-04 18:01

Guys please understand this... The rules are fixed - this is an IGC format and not any other tourney's format, we will give a fair chance of play to anyone and everyone and not just favor teams coming from abroad. Race to 9 Is for prelims only, the Super Six will be played on race to 16. Why is everyone so scared to experiment ? The dates are fixed, we had done a great deal of homework before picking up the dates. Its a "Good Friday" weekend so its 3 days off. It works well for people with jobs... Besides that it takes a considerable amount of effort and planning to execute anything. This is like asking to postpone the Olympics because we have our national football championship that clashes with the dates. (not being derogatory towards anyone... just giving an example) Rocky & Piyush... its easy being an armchair expert, tough to get up and actually do things. If you think the formats that you are talking about are right for a country like India where gaming is still in the nascent stage. I invite you to go ahead and do those formats... we will gladly help and participate in those tournaments. For the first time we are giving Indian Gamers the chance to take up gaming as a profession and everyone deserves a fair chance. Start looking at the bigger picture guys... its way bigger than you think it is.

2012-03-05 03:26

2 replies

You guys are just cashing in on entry fees.thats why so many teams.

2012-03-05 08:28

1 reply

You can say that for every gaming event in the world... But thanks anyway. There is no point in making a point to you.

2012-03-06 04:35