NiP clinch THOR spot over VeryGames

20-11-2012 20:57

NiP have clinched the THOR Open Qualifier #6 by defeating VeryGames 16-6 on de_train_se.

Following a knife round loss, NiP started their terrorist campaign with a strong three-on-five win in an after plant situation at the inner bombsite, where three of their players went down to under 20hp early and VG ultimately had no time to defuse after killing off every Swede.

One-on-three hero of the pistol round Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund scored two more frags on VeryGames's saverounds, which put NiP up 3-0. VeryGames won round four, but Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg and Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson clutched a two-on-five on the following round, forcing VG to save twice.

GeT_RiGhT was the hero of the beginning with a one-on-three in the pistol round

Now trailing 1-6 on the much favored counter-terrorist side of the map, VG quickly responded with a round, but two entry kills by Lindberg combined with three AK47 kills from Adam "friberg" Friberg quickly won NiP the next round despite VeryGames's accidental use of the non allowed incendiary grenades.

Overaggressive play from NiP cost them a save round loss with Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux winning the French side a three-on-one after Johansson took out his two other teammates by ladder room.

However, VeryGames were once again unable to connect two rounds in a row, and after Alesund's one-on-one win versus Kevin "Ex6tenZ" Droolans in the next round, the French were forced to go on another eco with the score standing at 9-3.

NiP's friberg then had some problems, disconnecting from the server two rounds in a row, but the Swedes were unaffected, bringing the half to a 12-3 result.

After a minor break, the second half started and despite carefully placed smoke grenades in the alley, VeryGames were completely denied, now trailing 3-13.

But the French had an ace in their sleeve, buying two Galil's and two P250s in the second round, which took NiP by surprise in the inner bombsite and brought the score to 4-13.

NiP attempted a semi-buy of their own in the eighteenth round, with a shotgun, an SMG and a few Desert Eagles, but it didn't work and VeryGames were on their way back into the game, including the eco round later, score became 13-6.

An exciting round followed when both teams were finally fully armed and it came down to a one-on-one which Johansson brought home with an AWP wallbang.

Fifflaren's wallbang in a 1vs1 put a stop to VG's potential comeback

Successful defense of the inner bombsite put NiP on match point and even though we were unable to see the last round of the match due to a GOTV bug, the Swedes brought it to a close with a 16-6 score.

THOR Open Qualifier #6Best of 1

Ninjas in Pyjamas

Matchpage

20th November 2012

VeryGames

Train_se

Ninjas in Pyjamas	K - D	+/-	ADR	KAST	Rating1.0
Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund GeT_RiGhT	22 - 12	+10	-	-	1.52
Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg f0rest	21 - 12	+9	-	-	1.51
Adam 'friberg' Friberg friberg	22 - 14	+8	-	-	1.47
Robin 'Fifflaren' Johansson Fifflaren	12 - 12	0	-	-	0.91
Richard 'Xizt' Landström Xizt	12 - 15	-3	-	-	0.85

VeryGames	K - D	+/-	ADR	KAST	Rating1.0
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux SmithZz	14 - 15	-1	-	-	1.00
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy RpK	16 - 19	-3	-	-	0.93
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub kennyS	12 - 17	-5	-	-	0.72
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt NBK-	12 - 19	-7	-	-	0.65
Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans Ex6TenZ	11 - 19	-8	-	-	0.56

NiP have therefore qualified for the 130,000 SEK (~$19,400) tournament THOR Open, taking place on December 8-9 in Stockholm, Sweden.

They became the sixth of total eight teams that will be on the list, joining the likes of Copenhagen Wolves, Anexis, Absolute Legends, gosu and Western Wolves.

Very Games too strong.

2012-11-20 20:57

17 replies

i see

2012-11-20 21:12

back in source they where kings, now they are raped by a team that started playing together only months ago and wich has 3 players from 1.6

2012-11-20 22:13

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Verygames started playing together only a couple of months ago. Nice try though bro

2012-11-20 22:19

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css?

2012-11-20 22:21

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Yes, VG lineup has constantly changed. youtube.com/watch?v=-7-Q11XFovc Only RpK, NBK and Ex6 really stayed long....probably same amount of time f0rest, GTR and xizt played together in all the time

2012-11-20 22:25

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xizt never played with f0rest and GeT_RiGhT before.

2012-11-20 22:49

f0rest and gtr have played together since early 2009 but xizt has actually never been on a team with either one prior to nip

2012-11-20 22:50

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hiGhrollers are now gosu edit edit edit

2012-11-20 23:12

7 replies

i will pass the msg to tgwri1s who wrote the second half of the post, i refuse to correct his mistakes!

2012-11-20 23:15

6 replies

don't be a bitch and atleast try to be polite to other people

2012-11-21 11:21

5 replies

some of us have a sense of humor

2012-11-21 11:30

4 replies

sorry but it felt like you were bitching about his mistakes - no offence

2012-11-21 11:40

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yes i actually hate my coworkers so i like to air out their mistakes in public to show that they aren't good at their job(?)

2012-11-21 11:58

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yup thats exactly what I thought when you refused to correct his mistakes.

2012-11-21 12:27

NiP's friberg then had some problems, disconnecting from the server two rounds in a row, but the Swedes didn't were unaffected bringing the half to a 12-3 result. probably a mistake there, son

2012-11-21 20:18

even with this fact , on css they would be #1 as usual . they will never be on cs go too much skill from 1.6 for them

2012-11-21 09:33

As i said just give the 1.6ers some time, and they will lead the cs:GO scenes as they did for the 1.6, cause seriously the cs:S playerz and the Chickens from MIX teams are booring and seriously they suck !!

2012-11-21 11:10

gj NiP

VeryExpected xD

2012-11-20 20:58

NIP must let VG win one or two maps before they start crying and decide to quit the game altogether

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+1 bots (^_^)

2012-11-20 20:59

NiP is so much better, but WRTT should've been in the finals

2012-11-20 21:02

+9999999999999 NiP CryCryCryCry if WRTT won just against ESC and not against NiP they won't be crying out. WRTT > NiP

2012-11-20 21:20

o_O

2012-11-20 21:42

i.qkme.me/35wks2.jpg

2012-11-20 21:46

Maybe if WRTT didnt cheat so blatantly and won like 16-12 against ESC they would of gotten away with cheating.

2012-11-21 08:10

Didn't they beat ESC 16-0?

2012-11-21 11:19

Yes thats my point they raised eyebrows because they won 16-0, if it was 16-12 people wouldnt have noticed

2012-11-21 14:22

Right, I'm with you now.

2012-11-21 15:56

again? -_- boring shit

woho :D

Verygames too stronk. OH WAIT.

easy

saw it live... Nice play by NiP, deserved to qualify

something about VG makes friberg play extra good, must play with hatred :P forest dominating as well as usual

hahahahahaha f0rest and friberg so amazing

2012-11-20 21:00

Player stats ? Literally just showed up

they always add it later

2012-11-20 21:56

fuck you nip

2012-11-20 21:01

Look at xizt's % hs. wooooooooooooot

this is aim from 1.6 :D

2012-11-20 21:45

most of the time he has +50%, but 75 % is too sick xD

2012-11-20 21:47

he would probably have killed many more if he wasn't aiming to heads only.

2012-11-20 21:57

Oh, CSGO map images. Finally. static.hltv.org//images/maps/24.png

remember the saucer comments before Dreamhack Valencia? "VeryGames is the best team, NiP don't stand a chance"

2012-11-20 21:04

For saucers: media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6d0euI0qE1r981m..

2012-11-20 21:09

like 1.6 players are dominating ahahaha look at your golden five players ESC. Loosing 16:0 for how many times already? aim from 1.6 omg XDD

2012-11-21 03:30

HAHAHAHA verygames tried to cheat with molotovs but failed

2012-11-20 21:06

LoooooL f0rest : Hey, no mollies Ex6tenZ : Sorry, my bad!

2012-11-20 21:39

Hey ak47, teach me how to troll, master. You're good.

2012-11-21 00:20

Hope that after this year domination of NiP will end and we will suspect not know who's gonna win ;p

2012-11-20 21:07

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If they really are that dominant like everybody says. They will show it Dream Hack, not in an online match

But nobody says VG are dominant. -_-

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They aren't

2012-11-20 21:22

So you were talking about NiP? If yes, they are already the dominant force winning 2 tourneys in a row with 0 losses on LAN. So what are you talking about when you say: "If they really are that dominant like everybody says" ???

2012-11-20 21:27

You know that in Dream Hack everything will count the most?

2012-11-20 21:29

Boring.

2012-11-20 21:32

They said that about Valencia, and then ESWC. NiP are without a doubt, a mile ahead of everyone at the moment, that's undeniable. But I do think Dreamhack will be interesting.

2012-11-20 21:51

DH is by far the biggest upcoming tournament this year. And I don't deny that NiP are playing so much better than everybody else right now

2012-11-20 21:55

lol fuckin' saucer :D:D

Why don't you go die in a cave right now?

brush your teeth

2012-11-21 02:28

i dont think have anything to prove at this point but whatever..

2012-11-20 22:24

friberg still an amazing player <3

2012-11-20 21:10

+1. He has been playing really well.

2012-11-20 21:14

still, the second worst in NiP

2012-11-20 21:18

really would you give up.... it's starting to get slightly boring now.

2012-11-20 21:26

LOL, i am sure he is talking about the stas. If you check here he is not wrong. :P hltv.org/?pageid=181&eventid=0&gameid=2 But friberg has been playing good.

2012-11-20 21:30

friberg was a player expected to flop at LAN, he was also expected to be NiP's weak link, yet his form and the way he plays (an aggressive style), he is one of the few players to get their entry frags. Statistics only show one part of a story. You can be an amazing player statistically but shit for a team. Theres a key difference.

2012-11-20 21:34

I completely agree. Right now NiP has a "perfectly" balanced team. If they keep winning then each player is doing.his role.

2012-11-21 02:36

Friberg is for sure the 3rd best individual skilled in Nip.

2012-11-20 21:49

4th

2012-11-20 21:53

hes better than xizt sorry.

2012-11-20 22:07

pointless discussion. nip has a sick lu and there is no need to point out if 1 is better than the other. :) imo

2012-11-20 22:26

ARE U FKIN KIDDING ME? Xizt is NiP's IGL and still has overall better stats than him.

2012-11-21 22:44

Someone need to beat them as soon as it is possible because this will be become boring! :D

2012-11-20 21:11

wrtt beat them and now they got ban pxapxa

2012-11-20 21:13

Well yes. But they need to lose 2 in rows to be more interesting :D

2012-11-20 21:17

i know its boring

WRTT should have been there...

OR NOT

2012-11-20 21:31

Don't say bullshit, there isn't any evidence of cheating + WRTT players asked for EAC and NIP said no, so yeah, WRTT should be there.

2012-11-20 22:03

like if EAC would prevent them for hacking

2012-11-20 22:29

Would be a + to prevent hacking, :)

guys who hack in ''important'' online tourneys dont go with free hacks, they pay for them, and those are made to bypass any known antihack

2012-11-20 22:35

Sourcers are so fucking terrible in any game besides their own. Hopefully Navi can adapted well, otherwise no1 stands a change against NIP with that super 1.6 trio.

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if u are from 1.6 maybe u should win vg easy...

+1. Its a shame that not a single source team, even the best ones, are even close to NiP and we have to look back to 1.6 teams with the expectation that they will break NiP's winning streak

2012-11-20 21:24

Sourcers are just used to run/spray and wait for buggy-lucky headshots cause of that terrible engine source and GO has. Against a team like NIP who has some sense of gaming in general, are smart enough to use decent strats which make these running robots confused as fuck. What an interesting "competitive" scene indeed.

"Against a team like NIP who has some sense of gaming in general, are smart enough to use decent strats which make these running robots confused as fuck." GeT_RiGhT confirmed that their strats are "random" to him? I kind of don't get why people are still hating upon "source players", when these players aern't "source players" anymore, nor is anyone "1.6 players", if they are playing GO at a competitive level, then they are now "GO players".....

agree

2012-11-20 21:41

Once a source player always a source player.It's like having committed a war crime. The past always catches up :D

2012-11-21 08:53

'They are obv trolling @ eswc nip did not have it easy against vg. Lets see what DH brings to the game.

2012-11-21 17:28

NiP have 2 source players in Fifflaren and Friberg and I do not see them being terrible in GO, therefor your statement is irrelevant. -_-

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They are probably the only reason NIP could lose matches. Obiviously they are decent with elite team mates using high level communition skills. Other than that they bring nothing in NIP other than 2 more targets.

2012-11-20 21:33

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With that comment in itself, now I know your mentally handicapped. Say no more, I understand.

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For youre problem, learning what "mentally handicapped" means would help tremendeously.

2012-11-20 21:35

Now your making absolutely no sense, you do not have to respond. As I said, I understand.

2012-11-20 21:37

Well prooved theory of friberg and fifflaren not holding their team back. There is sense actually, more than youre "mentally handicapped" insult has, it only made you ragequit and brought nothing constructive as fail debaters never do :F

Me rage quit? You must have me confused with yourself. It takes you forever to respond to a simple comment, you are the one that has explained absolutely nothing yet are stating that I have not. I am not the one bashing 2 source players on the team you are praising, which makes absolutely no sense mind you. I am not stating it as an insult, I am recognizing your problem and promptly accepting your situation. I am also not debating the topic, with ignorance as extensive as yours, I am sure it would prove no more fruitful then trying to argue theoretical science with Stephen Hawking.

One last stand as they say. Well done nice to have you with us :D again But yeah, NIP has 2 weak players where teams like ESC and NAVI have all 5 from 1.6. So if NIP oneday starts to lose matches, replacing these two would probably settle it. I did not regonize my problem, before somebody beyond thousonds miles kindly had studied my behavior long enough to make that educated statement. Americans as usually, thanks =)

2012-11-20 21:54

NiP's "weak" players that you speak of, keep on having solid showings in the events they attend. Against a very solid team in VG, they both also had their moments and one of those 1.6 players you speak of, was at the bottom of the list. This is a team game, we know of their individual skill, but as a team they come together and get things done while feeding off of each other for the next round. Now your bringing up Na'Vi and ESC, Na'Vi never playing GO competitively, ESC just basically starting. The future is bright for all of the pro teams as they develop their gameplay, strats, aim and movement. But the question is not how good they can become, the question is can they become better? ESC doing well against CPH Wolves and tying with BuyKey, Na'Vi with no GO results as of yet. There is a long road ahead of everyone, including NiP themselves. Not because of the 2 source players you bash, but because the competition will be as strong as ever. So troll hard with someone else, you will never place in the top 10 here. Of course you would not recognize your own problem, no one recognizes they are an alcoholic, to them they just like to drink. A study of your ignorance is not required, reading your posts are enough to justify what I have stated and what others have to state. For your information, a country does not speak for me, I speak for myself. In that case, no sir. Thank you.

2012-11-20 22:08

Everything before "not because 2 source players...) I agree, never said i didnt. But if NIP suddenly starts losing games, it definetly is NOT because of their 1.6 trio, and like ive said they are decent players, with the help and support of a great communication skills and team strats. But they do not "Add" anything in to team, they are easily replacable with any decent gamer. CS:GO is still new and teams get better as we speak, its just a matter of time before NIP needs to replace these two, unless GTR, Forest and Xizt can hold their huge cap of invidual skill compared to other top teams.

Wow, you are truly retarded.

2012-11-20 22:43

+1 :S

2012-11-21 03:47

You are one of the biggest morons on this site. Please go die in a fire.

2012-11-21 03:44

why are u wasting ur time bro? seriously, just let it go...:)

2012-11-20 22:30

I did ;D

2012-11-20 22:32

And this guy is a retard too. Giving your opinion is cool. But jeez some ppl just don't deserve to be able to give their opinion

2012-11-20 21:44

you're*

I am at a loss as to how anyone could blame two players on "losing matches". I thought CS was a team game? They bring a lot more to the team than just "communication skills" if they didn't, they wouldn't be the team to beat currently.

2012-11-20 21:36

I do not blame these two for nothing, NIP is on a winning streak afterall. BUT They dont bring anything in the team, they are simply two players that can hold on at this level. NIP currently is too dominant with their 1.6 trio that other players are far away invidually. What i mean was, if NIP someday starts losing games (probably never does) its because of their 2 sourcers. Navi has best 1.6 team ever existed so they quickly become superior tho these sourcers. Then its 5vs3 for NAVI.

2012-11-20 21:48

I dont want to live on this planet anymore...

You do, you need to bring more highlights to keep this community up. :)

2012-11-20 22:31

of course they bring something to the table other than being fill-ins. friberg is actually very talented and has done great in important matches, including the eswc final where he was top rated. they also have a lot to offer regarding smokes, movement etc as it's a source engine game. navi were great 2-3 years ago.. quit living in a bubble. they haven't been nearly as excellent in 2011 and 2012, and the swedes, danes and poles caught up with them again. esc is by the way the best team of all time in 1.6, without any doubt what so ever.

2012-11-21 00:21

Navi is by far the best team ever, dunno what games youve watched.

2012-11-21 01:06

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Will u stream live when u kill urself?

Sadly we were unable to see the Alt h's last round due to a GOTV bug

2012-11-20 21:58

this.

2012-11-21 06:57

You are just so amusing :-D

2012-11-21 05:49

Why is esc terrible at this game? why are they not number UNO when they have 5 1.6 players??? No you cant answer that because you are mentally handicapped.

2012-11-21 17:29

Because theyve played less than other top teams. Mentally handicapped came up with this simple conclusion so where does that put you dummy :DDD

2012-11-21 19:25

I don't see any pro 1.6 teams stand a chance against NiP either and NiP is actully 40% source players. VG is atm the second best team in GO and you can't Deny that.

WRTT, lol.

2012-11-20 22:28

hahaha stupid troll

bad trolls are bad

What CS:GO team are better than VG then, Except NiP.

Currently there isnt a team that can match or beat NiP and we will se an another NiP win at DHW I guess. I said "bad trolls are bad" cuz I agree with #57 and disagree with #30 ps: im not a sourcer, just annoying to read 1.6 kids who raging against ex-source players and feel themselfs as a king of the game.. sry for english.

It's funny how VG completely curb stomps ESC and yet when NiP stomps VG suddenly "saucers are bad". Seems like the #2 team in the world right now is a full source team, and the #1 team in the world has two source players. How well did ProGaming do at ESWC btw? Yeah, get off the dicks of players who are 10x better than you and 99% of the 1.6ers who switched over barring GTR, f0rest and xizt.

2012-11-21 01:57

None player is 10x better than I am. Esc lost to VG cause VG has 10x more hours in game, but esc is far more skilled as computer gamers in general.

2012-11-21 03:06

Same as Nip to VG. They had so more hours than VG, and no one said nothing about it. lol

2012-11-21 06:32

your argument is invalid... you are mentally handicapped.

2012-11-21 17:31

2012-11-21 19:23

haters gonna hate, now just shut all the stupid comments concerning whos saucer or not. NiP are in amazing form and it's a shame that theres no proper enemy for them atm.

This is getting repetitive.

ROFLSTOMP

Why there is no demos of most matchs

If "saucers" are shit, why can't teams with only ex-1.6 players win VG?

Which transition is hard? Source to GO or 1.6 to GO ?????

1.6 to GO obviously, since they all are better players than source players. Or you blame the engine that makes "1.6ers" lose?

2012-11-20 22:00

Not all 1.6 players think.their superior. ;)

2012-11-21 02:47

now the saucers will say that at dreamhack VG will rape NiP, and then in the next tournament and so on... saucers.lol

2012-11-20 21:52

Its always the "next" match where kennyS is good and VG wins something. I would literally die laughing if Navi would dominate VG on train with markeloff outsniping kennyS in their first encouter.

Well I prefer 1.6 and I'd love to see VG win. We need a wider growth of top teams fighting for the top spot.

2012-11-21 02:49

i bet, when VG win over NiP (if that happens) you will have a heart-attack .

2012-11-21 06:35

Only way i would get heart-attack is by playing that game myself instead of watching 1.6ers owning sourcers in GO.

2012-11-21 09:21

clash of the titans.. oh

hum clash ?

2012-11-20 22:18

VG absolutely undefeated source team allways loosing vs NiP. welcome to the world of competition, guys and what will happen, when fnatic and NaVi will get to NiP level ... time will tell

the game is just too young...

You say it like VG are the best source team ever...you fail to realise it was only them who actually practiced in the last few years of source. So of course they will dominate. CU when source players start rolling in properly! Remember the showmatch of Reason and Fnatic on CSP? 1.6rs afraid to lose ddos the server. HAHAHAHHA

2012-11-20 22:46

Troll moarz

is the wait gonna be as long as the wait for css to surpass cs 1.6 as a game? because were still waiting

2012-11-20 22:51

Why you still waiting? 1.6 is dead. Live with it

2012-11-20 23:11

like css isnt

2012-11-21 03:39

yet it's still more alive than your beloved css. mad?

2012-11-21 11:56

Source has more players than 1.6 and CS:GO combined. I know you are mad now, gonna come back with some random shit about steam stats which mean nothing

2012-11-21 12:15

maybe it does (although it is not backed up by valve's own stat system), but cs 1.6 still had about 70k people watching iem finals, source had about 1k watching its biggest event's finals (eswc). trololshitgameisshit, although css > csgo to be fair

2012-11-26 07:03

Iem didn't have 70k people watching for cs1.6 It had about 20-30k for 1.6 and the rest waiting on Sc2. This is a fact.

2012-11-27 00:07

eswc had 50k watching 1.6 and 1,5k watching css. this is a fact.

2012-11-27 16:09

You are special. I will give you that much. Your facts are wrong though.

2012-11-27 16:36

"VG absolutely undefeated source team" - not since around the time that shoxie left. Please try again.

2012-11-20 23:09

with/without shoxie VG could win any team, any taem would loose against them. Beside that CPH tournment, i dont remember VG loosing. In all the matches were, unstoppable.

2012-11-21 06:38

yeah but its nothing like with shox

2012-11-21 17:33

2low4NiP

2012-11-20 22:38

CSGO + NiP domination = fuuuucking boooooring tournaments ...

2012-11-20 22:54

nip moddii already plz sweden deserves this

2012-11-20 23:00

I just hope some other team to step up at DH. I think nobody wants another one-sided NiP-VG final.

2012-11-20 23:16

If NiP wins at DHW and the next lesser tours then i will be sure css/cs1.6 mix is better than css or cs 1.6 teams...

2012-11-20 23:25

Expected.

2012-11-20 23:41

I missed the match. Any VOD is there?

2012-11-20 23:54

1st half twitch.tv/esplanet/b/341661188 2nd half twitch.tv/esplanet/b/341664352

2012-11-21 00:50

Thanks!

Thanks.

2012-11-21 02:27

I don't think ESC or fnatic or NaVi will reach the level of NiP until they switch out some of their 1.6 players for source players. Same thing goes for VG, they need to cut one or two players for strong 1.6 players. Across both continents, it has been proven that mixed teams are undoubtedly the best. For NA that is A51, for EU that is NiP. The #2 team in the world is a full source team, how well are the full 1.6 teams doing? Oh right, getting 16-0'd by A51 or 16-3'd by VG at ESWC. People talk shit about sourcers, but they're actually doing very well considering the #2 team is a full source squad and the #1 team has two sourcers. That's 7/10 of the top players in CSGO coming from source. I can't take anything away from f0rest, gtr and xizt though. Those guys are just incredible.

2012-11-21 02:04

"The #2 team in the world is a full source team, how well are the full 1.6 teams doing? Oh right, getting 16-0'd by A51 or 16-3'd by VG at ESWC." You forgot that CS:GO is more like Source and players from CS 1.6 are playing Source Engine Game about 3 months! Give sourcers even 1 year in CS 1.6 and I will be sure that they will be smashed in every match with professional teams.

2012-11-21 02:34

CS:GO is completely different from source, you are a total moron. A lot of source players struggled mightily to switch to GO, including Dynamic and Zomblerz from NA. The movement, recoil, spray, weapon cooldown, grenade physics and so on are all different. The only similarity is the maps, which are easier to play than the 1.6 maps so it should be no problem for a 1.6 player to adjust. You are fucking clueless.

Keep insulting. For me CS:GO is CS:Source 2, you can't change my view. They don't call it CS:Source 2 because Source was worse than CS 1.6 (maybe "fail" in their mind), thats why they called it Global Offensive to attract more players from games like CoD, BF. About the CS:GO it could still have source movement, recoil, spray, grenade physics if the players from CS 1.6 wouldn't help in changes.

2012-11-21 03:12

I don't care about your opinion, I care about facts. Facts are the game is very different from CSS and a lot of Source players struggle to transition because CSGO is much harder. The hitboxes are smaller and the AWP is a much harder weapon to use. English isn't your first language so it's hard to gauge if you're stupid or just struggle to explain yourself, either way what you said makes no sense and is not relevant at all. I completely destroyed your argument that CS:GO was more similar to Source and you responded with "it's my view", then proceeded to talk about random shit that has nothing to do with anything. Reading these forums is like reading something written from 12 year old kids with dyslexia.

2012-11-21 03:22

i'm not like trying to fuck you or something. But it is way more source then 1.6. and your argument regarding the maps that are way easier is also bullshit. It's easier for people that just started playing yes. Because they can hide behind tires, a truck, coca cola can etc. But it's not easier for 1.6 players. css'ers have way more exp in walking in these maps. corners etc. i am still bumping into shit.. ofc everyone needs to get used to the spraying and nades etc. But when youre talking about maps cssers do have an advantage.

2012-11-21 08:52

Not forgetting the game speed. CSGO and CSS are much faster than 1.6. As a fact a 1.6 player has considerable disadvantages.

The fucking maps are completely different omfg. This website is starting to really irritate me with spastics like you who have no idea talk as if you have facts. Maps in cS:GO are fucking so much smaller and much less room to move than source. Dont believe me? Load up d2 in source and then d2 in cs:go you absolute fucking cretin.

2012-11-27 00:12

I wasn't talking about scale or anything. I was talking about how the map looks. And the amount of objects etc. stop trying to make it look like there is noone having an advantage. there is.. and it's the css'ers. But just wait when those newer maps are gonna be played. Then you will see how much it cares just to know exactly where a box is. or how hard it is for us to get used to a weird extra hallway in banana. Takes lots of practise to get to know the do's and don'ts.

2012-11-28 11:02

"ace in their sleeve" This is not the correct phrase. It is a combination of two different ones, "Ace up your sleeve" and "ace in the hole".

2012-11-21 04:40

Okay, so vg better beat consistently nip in order to achieve that feelings(how does it like to beat the best team) to beat NIP that is obviously right now enormously handi-capped in skills and experienced(got 1.6 trios which is NIP) than them right now, because when csp gets released into esport scene in the future. I am hella sure no sources will ever have the chances to get into top spots in the whole world. You know csp adapted cs.16 gameplay right :) you know what i mean when i said sources will never have the chances to surpass 1.6 teams So now is the perfect game and times for sources to actually competently playing with the likes of NIP. Im sure they now understands how does it feels to constantly lose especially in LAN againts NIP. Because in 1.6, those winning and losing in world's best cs events is just normal for NIP(im referring to 1.6 trios). You can see now the years of LANs experience favours to NIP whilst basicly vg has been always undefeated in terms of top spots in css scene.

2012-11-21 05:54

Are you seriously an american. This english is just awefull

2012-11-21 08:55

Malaysia

2012-11-21 09:25

hardcore selfowned

2012-11-21 11:03

Hahaha see it now. Small phone screen (a)

2012-11-21 20:20

Guy with nick Rpk hahahhaha

2012-11-21 06:49

JUVENTUS FTW !

2012-11-21 07:36

f0rest sleeping ?

2012-11-21 07:58

imo it looked like, they were saving tactics for dh..

2012-11-21 09:30

y obv but these guys here are kindergarten level so telling the truth doesnt help it

2012-11-21 17:36

5 CS:S players have no chance of beating a team with f0rest & GeT_RiGhT in it.

2012-11-21 10:38

Meh all this bitching about what's better 1.6 or css. . Deal with the fact that some players from each game will excel??? Just happens so that nip hold all the cards at the moment. Friberg was a totally unexpected talent, he's just adapted to CSGO really well. Just because players were good doesn't mean they'll be good in CSGO as esc are showing, they may be decent but their aim is miles from get right and forest. Don't bullshit with the whole hours argument either, they've had enough time to learn the recoil!

2012-11-21 11:26

VeryGames were very weak. Maybe they are saving strats for lan or it just wasn't their day (i'm not a fanboy of them, it's just that i've seen them playing way better in previous matches, well maybe except that 16-4 loss in ESWC).

2012-11-21 11:45

very weak... yeah very weak did you watch eswc?? online is nothing it means nothing dude

2012-11-21 17:37

There were so many matches already played for the past couple of weeks, surprised no demos were posted from all those 2-3 events going on at the same time...

2012-11-21 12:35