ALSEN release CS:GO team

21-10-2014 15:05

ALSEN have announced that they have dispensed with the services of their CS:GO division following a match-fixing scandal.

The news comes just hours after HLTV.org revealed that several of ALSEN's players had been caught throwing an EPS match against eliminacja.

With an odd value of 4.16 in favour of eliminacja on csgolounge.com, ALSEN trio of Michał "⁠bCk⁠" Lis, Jakub "⁠kub⁠" Pamuła and Damian "⁠DiAMon⁠" Żarski were all caught betting on the opposing side, who ended up winning the match 16-10, either from their main account or from alternate accounts.

ALSEN cut ties with CS:GO squad (photo courtesy of ALSEN's Facebook)

The trio's winnings exceeded $2,000, but it is believed that many other players in the Polish community were aware of the fix and also bet on eliminacja.

ALSEN have now announced that they have released the players from their contracts while stressing they were not implicated in this scandal.

"First of all, we want to apologise to everyone who suffered because of the dishonesty of our players, who we trusted," said projet manager Paweł " Pawcio" Watemborski.

"They have made a shameful mistake and the only correct solution to this case, considering their actions, is to end the contract between ALSEN-Team and Counter Strike : Global Offensive team.

"Many of our fans could be put off by their actions, and the whole case is not good for the company’s and sponsors’ image. There are only two people managing our organisation at the moment, and the whole organisation consists of 40 people.

"We often don’t have any clue what is going on, and that’s what happened with this game. I could write a lot more about this case but only few will understand our position and will be able to write constructive criticism regarding overall situation."

ALSEN had the following CS:GO squad:

Michał "⁠bCk⁠" Lis
Jakub "⁠kub⁠" Pamuła
Damian "⁠DiAMon⁠" Żarski
Mateusz "⁠matty⁠" Kołodziejczyk
Michał "⁠michi⁠" Majkowski

nice.

2014-10-21 15:06

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pedały

2014-10-21 18:05

nice

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Why are you still writing there if you're on VACation ? :(

2014-10-21 18:32

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Not on VACation anymore m8!

2014-10-21 19:02

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This is where those 3 euro csgo accs come in handy. amirite?

2014-10-21 19:39

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You must think i got vac banned like 5+ times, when i only got vac'd twice, and it was on same time cuz of same e-mail. Just letting you know. Not nice to jump on a bandwagon hehe.

2014-10-21 19:51

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"only twice" I lol'd.

2014-10-21 23:18

Yup, only twice.

2014-10-22 00:06

"when i only got vac'd twice", Do you blame him for "jumping the bandwagon"? I don't!

2014-10-22 07:59

he promised he will try to cheat less.. leave him alone!

2014-10-22 03:37

nice, they deserve it :D

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2014-10-21 16:24

totally the only right way to handle this situation while still keeping the organisations pride in one piece

2014-10-21 17:14

Good

2014-10-21 15:07

get_rekt noobs

So sääd

Absolutely deserve it.

Nice to see a fast response, +1

2014-10-21 15:08

Well done. Only correct choice.

cslounge should be DELETED, and those guys should be banned from CS:GO community i mean banned for tournaments etc. its a fraud

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+10*10^1000000

2014-10-21 15:10

Csgo lounge should not be deleted at all, only the betting system.

2014-10-21 15:15

Deleting CSGL wont help at all. New sites will appear, betting will be done under the hand and there are still a lot more sites where you can bet skins and money.

2014-10-21 15:16

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so ban thouse guys for example

2014-10-21 15:17

You mean the players that throw? Yes. They should get league bans.

2014-10-21 15:20

yup its a fraud

How about you ban them from the betting sites :O

2014-10-21 17:56

learn my first post twice

Haha i thought you meant it as in from Comps :)

2014-10-24 20:13

have u ever thought about golounge killed the competitive ? people just watch tournaments because the bets, people just cares about their skins and they forget about the competitive gameplay.... cs 1.6 never had a website to bet like golounge, and had the best competitive scene ive ever saw... #WeDontNeedCSGOLOUNGE4Kids

2014-10-21 17:52

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I agree and disagree. Yes its annoying that 90% of the talk in chat, etc. is about skins. BUT, at the same time the popularity ensures a number of viewers and profit that can sustain competitive CS. Add to that, that betting can add a nice edge to watching matches. I bet stuff too, but I watch the game for the match. Also, even skin based viewers can become "true" viewers. I started viewing comp. matches the first time in last years DHW. However, back then and afterwards, I only viewed pro matches very rarely, mainly the event matches. Then, at the CPH Games 2014 I heard of CSGL and started betting myself. I started viewing more pro matches, due to the bets. While at first, it was just for the skins, I soon came to a point where I started viewing mainly for the matchs sake. Now I watch most pro matches that can be watched, no matter if I have skins on them or not. I have gone from a rare viewer, to a frequent skin viewer to a proper frequent viewer interest in the match and not the skins. Also, remember again that deleting CSGL wont help. There are too many alternatives, from money bets, to skin bets, to bets under the hand, etc.

2014-10-21 18:02

+1337 that's pretty much the same for me.

2014-10-21 20:21

You sir, deserve a medal.

2014-10-22 23:10

+1 very true....when lounge & skins were not existed there was no ddos problem after there introduction lots of ddos problem(almost in every online match) & these kinda scandal came into light.....I mean ya itz cool when we play with skins it's attractive but they are destroying gaming spirit that passion....lots of guyz( especially newcomers) just play or watch for skins..

2014-10-21 18:24

Of cause cs 1.6 didn't have a website like csgolounge. It wasn't a "thing" back in the old days to bet on esports. It is a whole new dimension to esport, and betting companies are starting to realize that it is worth offering bets on cs go.

2014-10-21 19:38

im not talking about the money but the quality of the viewers, etc...

2014-10-21 22:11

We had betting in 1.6, since i used to win money on it and write blogs about it.

2014-10-21 23:14

Well yeah i know, but back then it wasn't that big as it is in GO now.

2014-10-21 23:20

it wasnt as big bc little kids couldnt sell skins for real money back then, now they can win skins on csgl and sell them for real money and bet on e-bet sites at same time as betting more skins on csgl....csgl is a huge problem, theres no way around it.

2014-10-22 10:48

Compare prize pool. Needless to say more.

2014-10-22 01:15

my point isnt the prizepool, learn2read

2014-10-22 21:02

more bets = more market transactions and viewers more transactions and viewers = more money for tournaments more money for tournaments more competetive games How the hell bets killing competetive Mr. Made in Brazil?

2014-10-23 03:14

MY POINT ISNT THE FUCKING PRIZEPOOL why do u keep talking about it ? the point is that the community, pro players, pubs and even casters on the past was way, way, way, way better than the stuff that we have nowadays and why ? because with these fucking skins the game attracts more shitplayers than the real ones back on time the subject of 87+% of topics were about gameplay, tips n tricks, how to improve X factor in-game, Europe/NA DM servers, the next tournament that X team will attend, and stuff related to this... now, the same amount of 87% of the topics are about skins, new top X teams, new players ranks (theses last two are created just after the end of matches, or even online matches), what skins could i buy with $1000, i was scammed, volvo plx etc... this current community is a cancer can u fkng understand now ?

2014-10-23 03:43

the one shitplayer there is you. you speak like 80 years old man, who thinks that grass was more green in past. P.S. Tnx for being mad, appreciate it

2014-10-23 03:46

clearly a retarded newschooler without arguments, i wont reply you anymore

2014-10-23 16:51

You can only bet skins on CSGL. I think the bigger problem are the people betting real money. Who the fuck cares about a virtual item. It's nonexistent, stop raging about your E-Peen.

2014-10-21 16:28

skins are the problem, when there wasnt these fucking shits we didnt saw ddos every match, pros losing on purpose and stuff like this

2014-10-21 22:13

Are you communist or what?

2014-10-21 19:40

Well 322 is strong. They are banned from csglng but they keep their shit. Next scenario, they sell all the skins and switch to COD :D

I think they cant retrieve their skins because of the CSGL ban.

Diamon inventory and his winnings from hltv.org news imgur.com/lTX8sXT

2014-10-21 15:59

Shiet. Lets hope that bastard didnt get the skins in time from his alternate accounts.

2014-10-21 16:07

What if they retrieved the skins immediately, before it was known they lost on purpose.

2014-10-21 16:44

They apparently did retrieve at least some skins. Still, the bet history would be visible.

2014-10-21 16:45

Swift, easy, and just. Take note PlanetKey.

2014-10-21 15:09

Great! Zero tolerance for this kind of bullshit.

Have fun with your 2000$ dollars now, people would even sell their ass at these days for skins.

more like 20000 if not more

2014-10-21 15:12

you're wrong

2014-10-21 17:06

dude, they got more money from csgolounge than ALSEN organization

Even if it's 20000, the guy on the right will spend them on food in a few months

rofl

2014-10-21 15:50

20k on food in few months? He can do a lot more than that, also, i belive they earn more now from csgolounge, than in their whole career :D

2014-10-21 17:59

lol xD

2014-10-22 04:15

good decision

The only right decision, wp ALSEN.

So matty and michi are collateral dmg?

I think you'd know if your teammates are trhowing a match.. They should've been aware of that happening IMO.

2014-10-22 04:16

taking out the trash

gz wit ur 2000$ pixels

2014-10-21 15:11

Hope they can pick up a team who will show them justice and loyalty soon. Stay with CSGO ALSEN!

ez skins ez lyf right?

get out kids

LOL rip skins ftw

2014-10-21 15:13

good

2014-10-21 15:14

Sucks really much for organizations who sponsor these losers and all they get back from it is a big slap in the face. Learn some fking respect to your organization,

The first ones to get caugh for real, but i am still wondering how many potential throws have been made. We all laugh about it and use throws for every team losing, so it kind of have lost its meaning, but it is nonetheless a very serious problem especially if teams/players are not retarded (like ALSEN's) and use alt accs with VPNs (and no linked accounts or added to main profile friendslist) or let very trusted persons bet for them.

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Nope, not the first one. There were other examples in NA that were proven.

2014-10-21 16:08

What, the shahzams farce? There was zero proof besides a screenshot of shahzam being shahzam. If you are talking about something else, please provide some info for further enjoyment :].

2014-10-21 16:37

Well, considering the fact that iBP and NCG were owned by the same people, I dont see that being unlikely. And after that, multiple pros in the NA scene admitted that they had been contacted and asked to throw a match. And then there was Moe, where yes, there was no proof, (except screens of the actual bet on a supposed second acc) but you could see that the whole team was playing the match, as if it were warm up. And then there were some more incidents in CIS/EPS as far as I remember, which were never proven, but were very suspicious, considering the heavily favored team played played like utter crap and then suddenly played super strong in the next match on the same map. Btw, the second team was a much stronger opponent and more interestingly, the guy that was bottom fragging and not doing anything before, suddenly was carrying his team.

I myself hate when people call out throw, just because an overrated team under performs, but sometimes it IS very weird and seems more than a coincidence.

2014-10-21 16:46

Well it definately felt thrown, i saw both matches live and things didn't add up. Most retarded moment was when steel flanked 2 players trying to save, and did not take the shot while lining up, got owned and lost an awp. Then says "wanted to knife" like really lol... But than the folks took in consideration that their history shown bad performances after coming back from lan which "might" explain it but still there was no proof either from league admins or csgolounge, so there is no 100% knowing for sure it happened. I say this as a person who lost skins on that match and another famous match.

I know that there is no 100% solid proof, but I feel like there are too many "coincidences" with some of the matches. And I am sure, that throwing is definitely something that happens. Yes, not every underdog win is a throw, etc. but sometimes, things get odd and I feel like leagues should have rules, etc. to ensure that people cant get away with this kind of behavior. Also, remember that iBP might have used that "after LAN" logic to have an excuse, if people call them throwers. Just like one Alsen player has now said on his FB, that apparently the only reason they bet on the enemy team was that they were not in great form and were not sure if they were gonna win. He compared the match with Alsen playing vs Fnatic and said something like: "Would you expect me to be on Alsen if we played Fnatic?". Those are just bad excuses. If you werent on form, but would still try your best against a statistically weaker team, you wouldnt bet at all, and definitely not on multiple accs with max value. Add to that the fact, that even a minor bet, because you werent sure, could make you throw the game.

2014-10-21 17:11

Leagues should have rules in place to dish out bans for proven throwers.

You deserve even more than that.

far right had no more room for extra skins

Now they'll play matchmaking with cool skins or even they'll pay2play on esea.

The organisation is always the one who s fucked :/

+100

that esculated quickly.....

2014-10-21 15:18

nice and quick action :)

2014-10-21 15:19

Good job Team Alsen! Great move!

End of career.

they still made more money in one hour than for whole life in cs

exactly :D

but its still not enough to live off of for a month. unless they made 100 more maxbets, though. if so, mad props to them.

2014-10-21 18:31

They could have easily gotten $2k each. 1. from their bets (probably multiple accounts). 2. Giving info to others and getting a cut of the winnings.

2014-10-21 20:17

I hope this is the end of their career in CS

It is true. Many others people from their "friends" list knew it and bets on eliminacja. Not only professional cs go players betted for eliminacja.

Well, they give alsen like 10% of winnings, rest for them, and so they kept their mouth shut :( .

2014-10-21 17:18

Next NiP

karma is a league of legends champion

2014-10-21 15:21

Dumb kids got what they deserved. Would be great if cs:go community banned them of all future tournaments.

2014-10-21 15:22

+1 also cooperation with valve would be nice :) if they got trade banned + league banned they would think of it firstly... It is a bit sad that these kind of players + DDOS-ers are ruining the whole game...

2014-10-21 15:25

I think valve doesnt care about this :|

2014-10-21 15:26

They don't need trade ban. CSGL locked their winnings. They cannot cash out and their all-in investment is also locked by csgl.

2014-10-21 15:33

thank you for the information :) didn't know about it :) but I still think league ban would be right :)

2014-10-21 16:04

imgur.com/lTX8sXT you sure ?;] What diamon writes on facebook isn't always true ;)

2014-10-21 16:05

Good riddance. There was only one thing to do as an organisation here.

2014-10-21 15:24

HAH GAYY

Rekt

that guy on the right is huuuge

Now a lifeban from Pro esport for the implicated people...

2014-10-21 15:27

*CLAP* *CLAP* i.imgur.com/2sREC.gif i.imgur.com/MIj6o.gif i.imgur.com/NAk6C.gif replygif.net/i/861.gif i.imgur.com/s3AoP.gif i.imgur.com/JSBTl.gif

2014-10-21 15:29

2014-10-21 15:31

2014-10-21 16:27

==clapping along==

2014-10-21 19:18

i.imgur.com/WsXhLUE.gif

2014-10-22 02:56

gj team

2014-10-21 15:34

B U L L S H I T T E A M P.S.: I lost ~90 Value in match vs Eliminacja

na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye!!!

2014-10-21 15:37

Who is this fat guy on pic?

2014-10-21 15:40

bck

2014-10-21 15:43

Looks like he's hungry for skins.. ;)

2014-10-21 18:30

owned diamon get rekt fag

betting/skins, the death of cs 100%

Feel bad for the organization if what they are saying is true. Hope they find new and better players.

2014-10-21 15:44

But they still get to keep their winnings and play in leagues?

2014-10-21 15:45

hope it was worth it tards... good riddance!!!

2014-10-21 15:46

HAHAHHAHAHHA 5rd PLAYER NICE MUSCLE

2014-10-21 15:47

hahaha

2014-10-21 15:54

good luck furthering your careers you fucking shady fucks. no mercy for the scum.

2014-10-21 16:01

noMERCY

2014-10-21 16:29

throwMERCY

2014-10-21 16:47

Everything gambling has ever touched always has a question mark around it. A pro baseball team had players get caught in the world series a long time ago throwing the series. The sad part is that cash is king! Do you want a worthless ring or a ton of money! Rings and trophies don't feed you or your family. People fix in college pros and even refs are bought off for the nfl. It's just the way money talks.

so they don't have free server and jerseys anymore?

I wonder how many times a pro quarterbacks team was favored by a large margin then just just magically had the worst day of their life. I would look it up if I was you. Just bet a mill against your own team and kaboom you just made a few million for losing at a game.

2014-10-21 16:06

For my math exploration, I was actually considering to look at how many times a team lost, in relation to how high the percentage that bet on them was.

2014-10-21 16:10

and? :D

2014-10-21 16:20

I was CONSIDERING. I didnt do it, but I thought it would be interesting to make a statistic on it. My guess is that the win rate for the favored team is higher at 67-70+% then at 82-89%. Especially in certain leagues.

Just one game I can make an example of an one player that comes to mind is Jay Cutler. I watched the game were he was sacked 9 times in the first half and just would not throw the ball to wide open players against the Giants. The announcers were saying look the guys wide open why won't he throw it. Then he does not come back the second half and some 40 year old stiff is QB who could not complete a 5 yard pass. Cutler throws look it up.

Now that I think of it iv'e seen Favre throw many games. One game towards the end he just throw the ball straight up in to the air with non of his team around.

They had 5 guys just waiting to catch it on the other team.

it is all about mentality

2014-10-21 16:12

fck u ALShiet

2014-10-21 16:18

how come that matchfixing happens in our top tier football league every week and nothing happens? :/

2014-10-21 16:22

k, no hard feelings towards the org. moving on.

2014-10-21 16:25

rip

scierwa

2014-10-21 16:33

well at least they have nice skins now

2014-10-21 16:34

Rofl that picture, bunch of misfits :)) let hope not a single organisation picks em up!

2014-10-21 16:41

Obvious decision. Why keep a team that will tarnish your org's reputation? I doubt some of the players will ever be able to recover from this. As for CSGOLounge, I think only Tier 1 matches should be open to bet on, both online and on lan. Of course I'm not implying that top teams will not throw or have never thrown, but most of the time, match-fixing happens in the lower tier of sports - college handegg, sunday league football, regional cricket or whatever. Basically, matchfixing is much more likely to happen when the profits of fixing matches for bets far outweigh the reward of winning the match and in the more 'amateur' areas of sport, money is harder to make legitmately.

2014-10-21 16:43

Creds to ALSEN for dropping them, they seem like a very good org.

ProPalyers shouldn't have chance to bet any games and that will be ok for all...

2014-10-21 16:51

pro players .

2014-10-21 18:12

Consider updating article. Official ALSEN statement on their page was probably reworded. They describe the whole situation and their approach to their players behavior in much more strict and harsh words. There is Polish and English version: alsen-team.pl/news,koniec-wspolpracy-z-m..

2014-10-21 16:52

Planetkey should learn something from this. The worst organization at the moment in cs go.

2014-10-21 16:53

the organization is actually pretty good, their decision concerning cLy is very questionable tho.

who cares, whatever our skins will not get back

2014-10-21 16:58

Esport players who are matchfixing but are smart enough to not let their bets get traced to them care. They need to be reminded that it's a risk not worth taking because if they get caught then that's their CS career over with.

2014-10-21 17:09

rekkkkkkkkkkkkkkt

2014-10-21 16:59

GJ and respect to ALSEN

2014-10-21 17:10

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2014-10-21 17:28

2014-10-21 17:31

All tournaments should prohibit betting. Just like all pro sports, and if you get caught.. Ban their ip for life!

2014-10-21 17:46

This is so sad, I lost pretty much everything in this bet. Feels stupid to lose something when they do it on purpose, csgolounge should give everything back :P

2014-10-21 17:39

GOOD, props to ALSEN org!

2014-10-21 17:42

GG NOOBS

Just read the last statement from diamon on his fb. That is ridiculous what he's thinking... What a moron.

2014-10-21 17:49

NICE!!

2014-10-21 17:53

well done team alsen you done the right thing, hoping the players will learn a lesson from this.

Mongol team, u deserve a steam ban

$2000 worth of skins they can sell, probably more than the org could ever fund them. Good move by the players, YOLO at some small european lan with a nice budget. Play The Syst3M

2014-10-21 18:08

REKT

2014-10-21 18:50

thanks ALSEN. let these nobodies get fucked

This is the problem with having semipro teams in CSGL. The winnings they earn will never be close to the amount they get from maxbetting against themselves especially since you can just have multiple accs.

2014-10-21 18:52

return the items to csgo lounge or get a block trade, report scam to alsen players asldkjahskjdaasdasdas

2014-10-21 18:59

cry cry cry cry cry cry..[.]

Good on the org for kicking them to the curb.

2014-10-21 19:14

good news

2014-10-21 19:26

nice :D

2014-10-21 19:28

Faith restored in ALSEN, in polish scene. Never.

2014-10-21 20:00

deserved it

2014-10-21 20:13

Merkules knew that gonna happened 12 hours before game started.

ahahahahahahahahahahahahah get rekt i.imgur.com/ES9BeZm.jpg

2014-10-21 20:45

xdddd

2014-10-21 22:02

2014-10-22 10:54

rekt

2014-10-21 21:21

gj Alsen gl next

2014-10-21 21:25

polish scum

2014-10-21 21:27

Respectable

2014-10-21 22:58

gj alsen

2014-10-21 23:00

sad

2014-10-21 23:30

2014-10-22 00:24

the 5th guy is wearing a tent LOL

2014-10-22 02:30

nice I hope those fucktards never get any sponsor again

2014-10-22 02:47

who?

2014-10-22 07:33

but we cant know if they bet from sub account , In this case they are idiot , cant stop caught losing

2014-10-22 08:38

YAY! JUSTICE!

2014-10-22 09:32

The guy on the right looks like he ate all of these returns...

2014-10-22 10:51

hehehehe.

2014-10-22 10:55

lol bai bai csgo "careers"

2014-10-22 10:52

>many of our fans Fans? What fans? the players' parents?

2014-10-22 12:23

Accurate step taken by the Organization. Hope this shameful event won't effect the reputation of the Organization. Good luck for future. Hope to see you guys with a new team.

2014-10-22 13:15