ESL.pl introduces betting rules

22-10-2014 17:00

ESL Poland has adopted new betting rules to prevent more cases of match-fixing.

Earlier in the week, HLTV.org broke the news that three of ALSEN's players - Michał "⁠bCk⁠" Lis, Jakub "⁠kub⁠" Pamuła and Damian "⁠DiAMon⁠" Żarski - had been caught betting on eliminacja in an EPS match between the two teams, which earned the trio upwards of $2,000 as the less favoured side, who were sitting at the bottom of the table, picked up a 16-10 victory.

Shortly after the match-fixing was brought to light, ALSEN cut ties with the team and condemned the players' actions while insisting that the organisation was unaware of any wrongdoing.

ESL Poland has now taken a stance against match-fixing by introducing a new rule that forbids players from betting on a competition in which they are involved. In case this rule is breached, it will result in immediate disqualification and a potential ban from the following season.

Regarding the former ALSEN team, they have been handed one major penalty point, which means that there will a 10 per cent deduction in their winnings should they come out on top of the current EPS season.

Moreover, both bCk and kub have received six penalty points and three-month bans from all new ESL tournaments for "unsportsmanship behaviour", while DiAMon's case is still being analysed by ESL.

nice

2014-10-22 17:09

n1111

Should ban them for life not just a season.

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if ESL PL was serious enough they would do this. but they want their part of the scam "10% penalty on teams winning" lol...

2014-10-22 17:38

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since the winnings are given by ESL, I don't see any problem there. This kind of penalty is made everywhere. But I suppouse you haven't understand it correctly.

2014-10-22 17:54

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serious punishment = permanent ban. at least 3 years?

2014-10-22 17:55

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they didnt cheat ingame and in rules until now wasnt regulation about throwing game like this so this penalty IMO is ok

2014-10-22 23:13

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they committed a crime. its even worse.

2014-10-23 02:34

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on a site which allows minors to bet, read - commits crime

2014-10-23 02:38

lol? Are you for real?

2014-10-23 05:10

Alsen is half of polish scene because VP doesnt take part in all these polish tournaments and alsen usually finishes 2nd so that would be backstab for scene

2014-10-23 10:50

It wasn't explicitly against the rules

2014-10-23 01:34

So its lounge and e-sport-bets and probly many other sites i dont know about

2014-10-23 14:19

#133

noice

2014-10-22 17:10

should be ban for 6 months

shouldnt be only in ESL.pl it should be everywhere

+1. But it started, it's only the beginning.

2014-10-22 17:12

yes

2014-10-22 17:20

They wouldn't be able to qualify to other tournaments :D

2014-10-22 17:32

Doesnt matter anything. cuz for what do they want to qualifie???... Most cups are not even hosted by esl anymore....

2014-10-22 17:46

That was a joke about them being bad...

2014-10-22 18:21

who gives a shit?

2014-10-22 18:20

#94

2014-10-22 17:11

should be in place for all team in any competition

lel, special for poland xD

who cares about 10% deduction when you have already won 1k5€ xDDD

shhould be banned by all events, not the organisation I mean the players

2014-10-22 17:13

"potential ban for the next season" so thats pretty much nothing,nada,zero,garbage. Its way too worth betting on yourself losing for 500$ skins and MAYBE getting a ban for THE NEXT season lol who cares about that

2014-10-22 17:16

good to hear

2014-10-22 17:17

n1n1

ESL, where match fixing costs 10% of your winnings.

THIS IS LAUGHABLE.

2014-10-22 17:19

And you get over that amount from the match fixing lawl.

+ 3 months ban from any tournaments

2014-10-22 19:51

CS:GO is not just a game, its A life! :)

Betting on CS:GO and eSports in general is here to stay, so it's just a matter of time before all tournaments have adopted these rules.

Amazing rule, they gonna bet from other accounts

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You don't understand... This isn't a CSGO ruling, if they're caught betting again then they're gonna get lubed up and penetrated

2014-10-22 19:05

ye, they may get a 20% cut next time.

2014-10-23 10:38

n1 :)

Literally nothing.

ESL Poland flopping like a hotdog.

what a bullshit decision, throwing a match and getting a fucking penalty point? they should be banned for at least 2 years from every ESL event. Also everyone involved in the scam should be banned as well, that includes even the people who didn't participate in the match, why? Because they knew of it, abused it, didn't inform admins. Those people are just cancer for the community, the community will be better off without them anyway.

2014-10-22 17:25

this. ESL PL decided to get some funds out of their scam. LOL "10% prize deduction" ok then.

2014-10-22 17:34

ESL.pl main sponsor Organner.pl ez fact, ez life

2014-10-22 17:21

Other ESL should implement that also!

Yeah! Fuck greedy polaks up in the ass!

2014-10-22 17:26

shit punishment in my opinion

2014-10-22 17:27

They should ban for lifetime from future events. I mean they stole money. There are no other words to describe this.

wat... lmao If I were them I would still do it with such rules..

2014-10-22 17:28

Way too short a periode and way too few players to get banned - it should have been the whole team. Its not like two on the team didn't know that they were throwing. The remaining two who haven't been caught should have the 3 months ban and the rest should be banned for a year.

2014-10-22 17:31

The other two probably sent the skins to diamond's alternate account and diamond did the dirty job for them swell

2014-10-22 17:36

That can be tracked aswell.

2014-10-23 13:20

FFS introduce this in EVERY league! Do we need a major busted fixed game for each league, until they introduce rules against match fixing?

thank god those new rules dont concer palyer's family and freinds read: new rules ll change absolutly NOTHING

How can a players family be hold responsible for what players is doing? It would be against the law to introduce such regualtion.

2014-10-22 17:49

the point is all rules about bets are dead so dont be excited

2014-10-22 17:57

I am afraid I don't follow your logic. PLS enlighten me.

2014-10-22 18:07

players can always bet using family memebers accounts or via real life freinds accounts.

2014-10-22 18:09

cYa next LAN AlsenTeam.

What else to expect, than a vague hit in the wind for an organisation as esl.pl

2014-10-22 17:40

Guys, Go to facebook and you'll see why the reason of this shameful decision. Esl admins and ex-Alsen players are (close?) friends. Sad.

2014-10-22 17:45

probably.

2014-10-22 17:56

Serious situation met with quick and stern reaction. Well done ESL Poland! :)

2014-10-22 17:47

well said

2014-10-22 17:53

3 months ban only? For making a fraud? REALLY? :DDD

2014-10-22 17:52

good job, should be implemented in all ESL leagues

Betting rules doesnt exist when alsen was betting. It's a good decision from esl. Now it's a clear situation. But anyway ex-alsen career is over.

ESL poland introduces new organner.pl

2014-10-22 17:59

Is it me? Or I don't see punishment?

ESL can punished for only unsportsmanship behaviour unfortunately..

2014-10-22 18:04

only 3 months ? wtf ? should be 4 years+

#58

Good decision from ESL. Finally, there is a rule concerning betting in CS:GO

2014-10-22 18:05

It is better to show your Items that you win in this match

2014-10-22 18:22

Organisors profiting from fixing themselves? XD (jk) but srsly this does nothing, since people can just use other accounts even computers. Pointless rule

10% :D

2014-10-22 18:06

ban those shits for life

2014-10-22 18:08

ONLY 3 MONTHS??? Matchfixing is the second most dangerous thing for the scene after cheating imo. Doping (cheat) has ruined cyckling as a legitimate sport and matchfixing is the biggest threat to football and can potentially ruin every sport. E-sports included. They should make an example and give these players at least 3-5 years ban so fewer players will take the risk and bet on their opponents. Yes i know that a lot of players probably do throw matches, without our knowledge, for skins but if the consequence is only a 3 month ban i think many will take the risk anyway.

2014-10-22 18:12

you are forgetting about ddos mate, probably tops the list as of right now or at least tied with cheating

2014-10-22 18:18

... and the cause of DDoS is betting too so i guess we can agree on cheating and betting are the biggest threats atm.

2014-10-22 18:25

The cause of DDoS is more than just betting. There have always been DDoSing and it has also been seen on matches without any short of bets recently. Betting is the biggest contributor to the game.

2014-10-23 13:24

It might be a contributor but its certainly also ruining the the pro scene. If more people realize there is money to be made on betting on CS, more will DDoS and more games will be ruined. So sad. It's hard to say what to do. I wish all betting on e-sports would end, since DDoSing has such a big influence on the outcome. Too unpredictable.

2014-10-23 15:03

Give my skinnerinoss back

2014-10-22 18:14

2014-10-22 18:28

i laugh also bcuz, any player will give a fuck xD they cna siimple bet with unknown alt accounts with diferent net ip, ez pz

2014-10-22 19:20

you don't even need a diff. IP, if they ask you why do both accounts share the IP you can just say that is was your brother/sister/friend using your internet connection to place a bet.

2014-10-23 05:45

I am assuming this is on a betting site using real currency? not steam currency. In which case the betting companies would almost certainly be reporting any unusual betting pattern to whatever their countries equivalent of the Inland Revenue is. Match fixing is fraud, a criminal act, no matter what the sport and people should be prosecuted by law not just given meaningless bans in online leagues.

2014-10-22 19:14

I am curios...how can they turn skins into real money? Selling them one by one to people with paypal or smth?

2014-10-22 19:18

yeah

3 months rly ? should be atleast 2 years

2014-10-22 19:19

2014-10-22 19:52

once u fix a match, u should be done thats it.

2014-10-22 19:33

haha, good for them, they made ez skins

2014-10-22 19:36

xd nice idea to be rich :3

first case of that kind of felony - 2 year ban for all e-sport competition second case - 10 year ban the same rules are in cycling

2014-10-22 19:42

Laughable penalty. Let's hope that damion who PUBLICLY ADMITTED that they threw this game will get much more severe punishment.

2014-10-22 19:43

Well, seriously, I don't agree with the no betting thing, what if I want to be on my own team? I think that players should be prohibited to bet on another teams, but not on themselves.

2014-10-22 19:49

"Regarding the former ALSEN team, they have been handed one major penalty point, which means that there will a 10 per cent deduction in their winnings should they come out on top of the current EPS season." This is fucking it!? Fuck.No wonder people match fix and cheat.

2014-10-22 19:54

just never bet on polish scumbag teams :D

2014-10-22 20:10

Literally no punishment then? Ban should be way longer than that.

2014-10-22 20:23

Lets not be fooled. These recent events are just the tip of the iceberg. I bet this happens more frequently than we are aware of. Its hard to counter.

2014-10-22 20:31

Such soft punishments.. they should all be fucking banned for life from any CS competition..

2014-10-22 21:26

well they win loads of skins or real money (depending the betting nature) yeah they could live with a 3-month ban

2014-10-22 21:48

Every single event should have this rule.

2014-10-22 22:40

Only 3 month ban...joke, right? Should be at least 3 years ban for each.

2014-10-22 22:46

I disagree with ESL's decision. While I fully agree that what Alsen did was wrong, I find it somewhat weird that they get punished for this. There was no rule saying they can't bet against themselves before all this drama happened, thus they didn't break any of the existing rules at that specific time. Best way to explain what I mean is imagine if Netherlands banned weed and decided to punish every single person who smoked it before the ban.

2014-10-23 02:43

HA i bet they didn't see that coming. Fucking bastard

2014-10-23 03:44

lol any other professional league aka major sports = ban for life if you throw

2014-10-23 05:51

slap on the wrist...esl/esl.pl should have made an example out of these, that would have happened in any other situation..for example in a real court.

2014-10-23 07:12

so pasha can't bet on himself anymore?

2014-10-23 07:56

no need to he has morta2k now

2014-10-23 08:07

and why the match fixing from teams like virtus pro didnt came out? oh right bcoz they are the golden five and have friends in all upper class admins and organisations ;) and who the fuck cares bout ALSEN shits making 2k?

2014-10-23 09:04

what match fixing? rofl you mean them betting on a match that was already played out? Not quite what match fixing is

2014-10-23 09:12

ugrac nic nie potrafią + mama nie daje juz kieszonkowych to trza podpierdalac co sie da :) WELCOME IN POLAND

2014-10-23 12:53

csgolounge isn't the problem. you can bet fairly big real money on several esports and now even big sports betting sites. rigging has been going on long time in all esports games at some degree. it is just so darn easy compared to real sports to arrange games, especially any low price tournaments / meaningless games are under a big threat

2014-10-23 14:26

These rules are good, but there will always be loopholes that cant be controlled. If an organization like ESL or if a major tournament forced these rules then smaller and not as big tournament will follow up to not receive bad reputation about not being sportsmanship (I dont know if it's the correct word.) Make big tournament organists enforce these rules or that we create a committee that make international rules for all tournaments that are official. :)

2014-10-23 23:09