Valve: "Match-fixing bans permanent"

Valve has announced that players involved in match-fixing activities are permanently banned from its tournaments.

Exactly one year ago, match-fixing became a hot topic in the Counter-Strike scene as a report from the Daily Dot's Richard Lewis revealed that the former iBUYPOWER team had lost a CEVO match on purpose to profit from high-value bets placed by smurf accounts on the opposing team.

An investigation launched by Valve resulted in indefinite bans being handed out to seven people, including ex-iBP quartet Sam "⁠DaZeD⁠" Marine, Braxton "⁠swag⁠" Pierce, Keven "⁠AZK⁠" Lariviere and Joshua "⁠steel⁠" Nissan.


 Four ex-members of iBP are permanently banned

Months later, a similar case rocked the French scene as four of Epsilon's players were found guilty of profiting from an ESEA Invite match. When announcing these bans, Valve stated that the restrictions would "not be re-evaluated before 2016", which many interpreted as a sign that match-fixing suspensions could eventually be lifted.

Robin "⁠GMX⁠" Stahmer and Joey "⁠fxy0⁠" Schlosser - two of Epsilon's players involved in the scandal - recently returned to action and joined professional teams, while some of the ex-iBP members competed at small offline tournaments in 2015.

But these players' hopes of ever attending a major again have now been quashed by Valve, which, in a blog post, declared that all those who have been found guilty of match-fixing are banned for life, in order to ensure that the integrity of top-flight competition "can never be called into question."

"To clarify, the bans for these players are permanent, and players proven to have taken part in match-fixing will be permanently banned," Valve wrote.

"We will continue to take whatever action we think is necessary to protect the entertainment value created by professional Counter-Strike, including, on occasion, terminating our relationship with individuals who have demonstrated a willingness to exploit their fans’ faith in the integrity of the sport.

"While bans can be disruptive and painful to some members of the community, they are sometimes necessary."

United States Sam 'DaZeD' Marine
Sam 'DaZeD' Marine
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
134
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
Canada Joshua 'steel' Nissan
Joshua 'steel' Nissan
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
101
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.68
Canada Keven 'AZK' Lariviere
Keven 'AZK' Lariviere
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
128
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.68
France Joey 'fxy0' Schlosser
Joey 'fxy0' Schlosser
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
119
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.65
France Robin 'GMX' Stahmer
Robin 'GMX' Stahmer
Age:
22
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
239
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.71
United States Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
148
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.64
#1
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Kuwait 475776
gg
2016-01-05 23:37
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#12
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Spain Alser
This includes ex-IBP and ex-Epsilon players reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3z..
2016-01-05 23:47
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150 replies
ripped swag
2016-01-05 23:37
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141 replies
might aswell ban vp aswell then valve fucking retards ibuypower werent the first to throw and not the last
2016-01-05 23:41
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#114
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Poland Kazurek
mad, though imo ibp should be unbanned
2016-01-05 23:41
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133 replies
how am i mad? just upset that the retards wont give ibp a second chance btw pasha literally bet on his own match and threw hltv.org/news/12476-csgolounge-on-bettin.. #banvp
2016-01-05 23:49
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124 replies
#267
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Poland Greavick
they've bet after match, how is it throw ? :D
2016-01-05 23:53
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89 replies
#310
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Germany mengelele
its not fair and its really shitty to do that to your fans and supporters but you cant see the truth from pasha's asshole
2016-01-05 23:58
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71 replies
#333
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Poland Greavick
yes I totally agree. It's not match fixing tho
2016-01-06 00:01
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68 replies
#477
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France Quono
Skadoodle amd Scream Luckiest guys evahhh
2016-01-06 00:21
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67 replies
#577
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Canada GDB2
Ahahaha indeeed.
2016-01-06 00:43
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20 replies
#735
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Poland Fasterinio
rip swag
2016-01-06 01:33
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19 replies
#1112
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North America NaScene
rip NA Scene
2016-01-06 09:19
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18 replies
#1341
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United States Dragonborn
i feel so great right now. justice has FINALLY been served to the csgo community. steel keeps banning people from his twitch channel who accuse him when they're right about his shady attitude. if valve had unbanned the ex-ibp idiots, they would have thrown again in future games. GUA-RAN-FCK-TEED! once you've given in to greed, can't undo this. next throw, dazed would just be more careful and like VP pro-throwers, they'll never be caught again.
2016-01-06 14:03
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16 replies
#1382
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Netherlands De-linquent
There's a lot of un-educated posts in this thread. Yours takes the crown though.
2016-01-06 14:48
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1 reply
#1627
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Finland j0natHanSOLO
+1
2016-01-07 14:12
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#1423
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United States Driven04
You clearly don't understand a number of things including people, psychology, rehabilitation, effect of punishment etc. The fact of the matter is none of them would ever throw a match again. I bet none of them would even bet on matches anymore due to their bad experience and life altering punishment. At the end of the day, all this proves is that Valve places online betting/gambling (and directly tied into this is their own monetary gain) above everything else.
2016-01-06 15:56
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7 replies
Yup they dont give a shit about for example cheating in their majors. I hope organisations like dreamhack and esl will run down valve majors.
2016-01-06 16:55
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6 replies
#1565
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Germany P3tR
your comment makes no sense whatsoever. If a professional player is found guilty of cheating he is issued a ban by valve, saying that they dont care about cheating in majors is just made-up bullshit...
2016-01-06 23:53
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5 replies
Yeah, issued by valves anticheat to be more exact, which is known to be a shitty anticheat. Thats all precaution against cheating they do at majors. Thats the same as you would go and play MM. Are you fucking dumb mate? hltv.org/blog/10414-cheating-in-pro-cs-p.. Read the end of that to understand what I mean.
2016-01-07 11:37
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#1642
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Germany P3tR
you do realise its quite hard to cheat at lan? quite a lot harder than to cheat online, and to say that the only people that catch cheaters is the community is just bullshit cause 99% are silvers that call every mouse movement hax...
2016-01-07 17:18
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It's pretty easy when you can bring whatever you want with you on stage. Read this: "The big question is: If there are cheats - how? There are not that many possibilities. I'd love to know why Riot games doesn't allow pro players to bring in their own gear to pro League matches (LCS). In the LCS teams/players tell Riot which gear they want to use (for example mouse one, keyboard x and headset xyz). Then riot provides the gear. They also have metal detectors at the LCS stages which they don't use at CS stages (to my knowledge). Imagine this: a team has someone in the audience. Guy in audience has two buttons. He hits A if someone is going to push bombsite A. Vibrator in flushas left shoe is vibrating. He hits button B -> vibrator in flushas right shoe is vibrating. just an example. What I don't understand: in counter strike pros are allowed to bring in their own gear. Sure: ESL stores it for a couple of days to "check" it. But do they even know what the fuck to look for? Why does riot strictly forbid that shit but valve allows it? Does riot know about technical possibilites that valve doesn't?"
2016-01-07 18:09
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#1785
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Czech Republic MadCat
When they go through middle, he hits C and vibrator in flushas butt starts vibrating.
2016-02-24 21:07
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hltv.org/news/13941-myrevenge-lose-csgo-.. Ex-MyRevenge threw for skins. Where is their bans?
2016-01-11 11:11
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#1556
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World RonMexico92
"steel keeps banning people from his twitch channel who accuse him" Accuse him of what? are you new to cs scene? he had admitted, discussed and went over this topic a million times. Are you dumb or new? its one or the other. He isn't allowed to ban people who come in his stream and talk shit about the throw? 1. He is. 2. You should get a life. "when they're right about his shady attitude" You accused him of having a "shady attitude" ? LOLOL confirmed my point 2. You Should get a life. If you don't like his attitude? why are you in his stream? why do you care who he bans? You're a wimp and guaranteed you've never actually played a competitive team sport in your life. I can tell by your feeble mind.
2016-01-06 22:39
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#1591
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United States Dragonborn
so many dumb words. get a life, kid.
2016-01-07 06:00
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#1751
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World RonMexico92
"so many dumb words. get a life," "kid" lmao wait, I'm about to grill you're lame ass. "steel keeps banning people from his twitch channel who accuse him" So you said that, but you're calling me a kid? I hope you're kid, because if you're not and you are salty about how another grown man runs his chat, his stream, his job, the way he makes his livng, I feel sorry for you. Lmao what do you do for a living? last time you smelled vagina? & you told me to "get a life...." lmao but you "steel keeps banning people from his twitch channel who accuse him" LMFAOOOOOOO loser.
2016-01-14 09:48
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3 replies
#1753
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United States Dragonborn
"lmao wait". no time to waste on more of your dumb words, kiddo. get rekt, idiot.
2016-01-14 11:34
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2 replies
#1754
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World RonMexico92
You're lame. lmao I know you feel like a lame. "dumb words." hahhahahaahahhahahahah
2016-01-14 13:26
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1 reply
#1755
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United States Dragonborn
lel
2016-01-14 14:29
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#1366
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United States Dragonborn
grab the whole ibp throw story and other csgo fuckups on youtube:(CS:GO) Top 9 Scandals Of CSGO History + Transcript
2016-01-06 14:28
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#598
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Belgium fRe2k
and ska isnt even innocent (there is a steel vod saying by the time it got leaked ska didnt want any more skins lmao)
2016-01-06 00:49
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23 replies
#737
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Poland Fasterinio
link?
2016-01-06 01:34
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#770
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Denmark prXarN
How is that "not being innocent" ? He actually says no thanks to be a part of it.
2016-01-06 01:52
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#802
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Estonia Psoocho
the bots were busy so they couldnt take the skins out, when ska heard that they got caught, he hadnt taken any skins out yet and decided he wont, hence he didnt get banned. but ska DID THROW THE MATCH with the other members, he is not innocent, he just didnt take the skins out in time and got lucky.
2016-01-06 02:08
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#811
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Denmark prXarN
Source? :)
2016-01-06 02:16
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#816
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Estonia Psoocho
steels stream, its 3 AM, i cant be bothered to find the vod
2016-01-06 02:19
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8 replies
#818
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Denmark prXarN
steel is a fucking idiot, would be naive to believe anything he says tbh.
2016-01-06 02:21
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4 replies
#824
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Estonia Psoocho
so i should listen to people on hltv instead of the person who was in that group of people who threw? hey, since u wanted sauce, heres sauce /watch?v=NwdC_AVB27g , better not make me find the timestamp. gl hf
2016-01-06 02:25
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#1724
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Denmark prXarN
First of all, as I said I don't believe a word of what steel is saying so that's not a source to me. Second, I'm not saying you should listen to ppl on hltv because I don't either. All I'm saying is that what steel is saying is definitely not a fact no matter where he was and what role he had. Have you ever heard of being falsely accused? If I go to the supermarket with a friend of mine and I'm getting busted in stealing and I tell that my friend was in on it, is that a fact just because I was there? No.
2016-01-10 19:48
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I think Thoorin said the same thing in his youtube podcast. You can look it up.
2016-01-06 05:55
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#1727
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Denmark prXarN
Is that supposed to be better? :D No matter what who says it's not a fact and definitely not evidence, so he's innocent.
2016-01-10 20:04
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#913
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United States alphalete
what steel said on stream was that he heard it from azk that ska doesn't want to be part of them anymore when the skins came. However, we all know AZK is a lying piece of shit that fabricates things. They are just trying to play innocent and drag skadoodle down with them. It's human nature.
2016-01-06 04:04
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it's not human nature for skadoodle to say "i don't want to be part of the throw, but you can do it if you want" at least ask them to use a stand in if he didn't want to be part of it
2016-01-06 10:01
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I swear... They were in ESEA league when they threw, which meant without using their manager (who might not have even been on the roster) they couldn't have used a stand-in. Further, since they were trying to help NetcodeGuides get into the LAN finals at the time, a FFL wouldn't have worked so they more or less had to field their normal 5.
2016-01-06 17:15
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yeah not getting the skins does not excuse you from participating in a throw. It's like to rob a store with 4 other guys but don't take your share and tell the police "men I didn't know we were stealing and I didn't take my share you know, so im innocent"
2016-01-06 03:37
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#972
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United States airasia
the problem in the iBP case is that the only hard evidence of any throwing occurring was in the skins received and Ska didn't receive any.
2016-01-06 05:49
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2 replies
#1323
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World drev1
"No body, no murder"
2016-01-06 13:45
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1 reply
#1567
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Germany P3tR
In dubis pro reo mate. Thats a much older rule and it definetly applies here. (For those who dont know waht that means: if its not 100% clear the suspect is let go)
2016-01-06 23:59
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#1726
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Denmark prXarN
There's no actual evidence that Ska was even in on the throwing as he didn't profit anything from it. What steel says is not a fact.
2016-01-10 20:02
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well. he played the match didnt he ?
2016-01-06 14:33
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3 replies
#1729
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Denmark prXarN
Correct, what's your point? Playing a match and throwing a match ain't quite the same.
2016-01-10 20:10
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He knew that the 4 other guys was going to throw. So its not quite the same but not that far away. I dont really care if he did get skins or not , what i care about is that he knew and you can clearly see from the season match that he didnt even try. And u might say : "ofc he didnt try because he knew the other guys would not play their best" But hey , if you think playing poorly by choice isnt throwing well there you go.
2016-01-11 17:38
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#1740
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Denmark prXarN
But that's not evidence :) You can't prove that he actually threw the match with them, so that makes him not guilty
2016-01-11 20:02
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#1339
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United States Dragonborn
it's all explained in one of thorin's recent videos on youtube. subscribe. it's worth it.
2016-01-06 14:04
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#606
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Korea tai1177
well ScreaM honestly didn't even know about the throw. Ska did. So Ska's really lucky lol
2016-01-06 00:52
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#660
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World truestory_
ScreaM was fully aware
2016-01-06 01:09
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6 replies
#868
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Korea tai1177
ScreaM said he didn't know. Even his teammates said they ScreaM didn't know because they didn't tell him. What makes you think he knew? And why else wouldn't ScreaM have gotten banned?
2016-01-06 03:02
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#1036
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Indonesia yoztpetra2
I believe scream defended his teammate on vod if I remember correctly.. He was trying hard in the game as well.. Top fragging for the team
2016-01-06 07:31
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#1134
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Korea tai1177
Yea I mean that suggests even more that ScreaM was unaware of the throw
2016-01-06 09:40
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#1149
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Australia exitone
If you watch the demo you can clearly see he was trying.
2016-01-06 10:01
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2 replies
#1182
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Indonesia yoztpetra2
I heard he was "cmon guys what the fuck is happening?" in the game lmao
2016-01-06 10:42
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#1593
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Australia exitone
ya i remember they got to 'hell' (under heaven) on an eco and ScreaM starts shooting someone at ramp then BAM fxy0 juan deaged ScreaM in the back ;D
2016-01-07 06:46
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#774
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Denmark prXarN
Ska ain't lucky at all, he was aware that the other guys wanted to throw but he said no thanks to be a part of it and didn't gain anything from the loss which makes him innocent.
2016-01-06 01:53
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#850
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England azrl
I love ska and respect him as a player but he knew before what he was getting into. He didn't accept the skins after when he had an inkling that things could go awry.. He still threw the match only he didn't / couldn't accept the profits. Well AFAIK.. :)
2016-01-06 02:47
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#1568
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Germany P3tR
In dubis pro reo. So he is innocent.
2016-01-07 00:01
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#1725
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Denmark prXarN
That just doesn't make sense to me, how are there no skins for him when AFAIK they won on CSGL? I'm pretty sure they have skins. Well, who knows :)
2016-01-10 19:52
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#870
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Korea tai1177
Uh no. Ska was part of the throw. He just didn't accept the skins because the whole throw went public before Ska was able to get hold of his skins. So he declined them because he knew he would get in trouble eventually because of it. It's not like he opted out because of moral reasons, he just got lucky that there weren't enough skins for him at the time that everyone else got them.
2016-01-06 03:03
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#1430
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Norway Rudra2
Lucky? He could just as easily have joined betting on the enemy on a smurf. Contribute with skins w/e. Allthough I still think he somewhat got lucky he didnt get any punishment as he knew(?) they would throw the game.
2016-01-06 16:03
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#1577
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Korea tai1177
No... did u read the article? None of the players bet on their smurfs. They only had their friend Duc Pham do all the betting for them so that there'd be no connection to the players at all betting on the enemy team. All they had to do was throw and receive skins from Duc Pham. Ska didn't accept the skins because there weren't any left for him yet, then the throw went public, so he declined receiving any after this. He did just get lucky that there weren't enough for him, because he would've accepted otherwise. That's what AZK said
2016-01-07 01:04
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#1570
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Germany P3tR
Every free court on the world would let him go, cause in this case "in dubis pro reo" applies.
2016-01-07 00:03
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#1731
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Denmark prXarN
You talk like it's something you know? :) There's no evidence that Ska actually threw the match which makes him innocent even if he actually did throw it. As long as there's no evidence, then he's innocent.
2016-01-10 20:13
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#1733
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Korea tai1177
Because AZK said that Ska was in on it on his stream. He just couldnt accept his skins. I never said Ska deserves a ban or anything. Quit assuming im saying Ska is guilty and should be punished. I like Ska and im glad hes not banned, but that doesnt mean he wasnt part of the throw. He also never awped during that game, even though he was IBPs main awper. That just kinda shows he didnt really try
2016-01-10 22:06
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#1734
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Denmark prXarN
What AZK says is not a fact nor evidence to prove a person guilty. And I'm not assuming that you said Ska was guilty, you actually said it just fine, "Ska was part of the throw". It's not evidence that Ska didn't buy an awp during a game. If they ran around with zeus it would be a different case. So he's still innocent :)
2016-01-11 10:13
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#1739
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Korea tai1177
Thooorin already explained this. And if AZK were to tesify against SKA in a court case, it would be evidence since he was THERE to not only witness it, but knew everyones intentions as well. U think witness testimonies mean nothing? Thats clearly evidence. Youre just blindly denying everything because u wanna believe what u want. Ska never denied throwing either. Itd be a different story if he denied claims of throwing and if AZK never spoke out against him. But if this were court, hed be considered guilty based solely on AZKs testimony and him clearly not trying in the game. Youre saying the primary awper who never said he didnt throw, has a witness that was with him claim he was part of it, and him not using the awp in game despite being primary awper as not evidence? Okay kiddo. Ska has never NOT used the awp in a professional match where he was the primary awper for the team. NEVER. He always had an awp at some point during the game. You say thats coincidence? Believe what u want. The evidence is there fanboy. No matter what i say youre just going to be like "Nope thats not evidence" lmfao. U have no idea what evidence is and how it works. You just believe what u want and dismiss everything else.
2016-01-11 18:08
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#1326
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United States Dragonborn
go watch the video by thorin on his youtube channel about ex-IBP and the murkey case of swag and ska. ska actually deserved the permaban as well but he just got really reeeeeeally lucky. i won't post spoilers unless you guys want me to.
2016-01-06 13:48
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#1742
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Korea tai1177
Blind fanboys will deny and deny this. What AZK said IS EVIDENCE against Ska. But people are idiots and don't know what the definition of evidence is. I mean I like Ska a lot and I don't want him banned and i'm glad he's not, but he was definitely part of the throw and just got lucky that there weren't enough skins for him before the throw went public. Blind fanboys will keep saying "nope, not evidence" like that idiot above because he's just in denial
2016-01-12 08:04
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#336
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Spain ewg
Yea but thats not match fixing
2016-01-06 00:02
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#565
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Poland LGf
csgl fault they did not throw
2016-01-06 00:39
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#357
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Netherlands hollowdadon
its the same.. its unfair and stealing from the community... ez
2016-01-06 00:06
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stole skins from his fans, pretty much the same thing valve says its about integrity, if its about integrity might aswell ban vp
2016-01-06 00:08
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#420
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Sweden nivren
they have the same right to bet as anyone else. you guys are fucking sad cus you lost your skins. RiP Skins
2016-01-06 00:14
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#470
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United States Dood
No they don't? Valve stated that professionals are not allowed to associate with gambling sites in any way.
2016-01-06 00:21
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4 replies
2016-01-06 00:25
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lol they still bet on sites lmao, you really believe they don't?
2016-01-06 01:42
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#1327
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United States Dragonborn
have you ever noticed the csgo pro players stream and gameble or give away these crazy expensive skins like it's just random shitty drops? well, there's a reason for that, dufus.
2016-01-06 13:49
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#1503
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AZK | 
United States Dood
I meant betting on teams and such, dufus
2016-01-06 18:36
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they don't, valve made it clear that pros are not allowed to associate with csgl i dont give a fuck about skins
2016-01-06 00:23
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#1294
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United States Cipherr
Valve made that statement months after VP did it so that really doesn't apply
2016-01-06 12:57
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#493
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France Draykus
No player should be allowed to bet on their own matches period
2016-01-06 00:24
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#1330
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United States Dragonborn
only complete idiots would believe that valve saying something would change the potential for csgo pros to skip earning thousands upon thousands in betting wins.
2016-01-06 13:51
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#778
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Denmark prXarN
If he stole skins from anyone it was from CSGL and not his fans as they lost their skins either way.
2016-01-06 01:55
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#864
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Poland hltv_monkey
just Pashka things bet against your team after match
2016-01-06 02:57
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#1269
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Europe DrexxEnt
Its not a throw, but it is Match Fixing.
2016-01-06 12:23
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#1674
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Europe DrexxEnt
fuck it I don't need to tell you twice.
2016-01-08 08:34
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1 reply
#1686
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Poland Greavick
you should read what matchfixing is then :D
2016-01-08 12:01
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#282
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Netherlands EmreA
are you high? they didnt throw. they played the match beforehand and later a recorded demo was shown live while csgolounge didnt know so thought that was the actual game. And thus vp bet, they never threw. They didnt even need to throw, since they just could bet on the winner anyways. Did you even read the fucking article?
2016-01-05 23:54
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7 replies
stole skins from his fans, pretty much the same thing valve says its about integrity, if its about integrity might aswell ban vp fucking muslim
2016-01-06 00:09
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6 replies
#480
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Finland bliplbob
tell me, how did VP steal skins from their fans?
2016-01-06 00:22
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4 replies
read the article? vp lost the match and bets were still open on csgl vp deciced to bet on the match, AFTER the match had already been played
2016-01-06 00:31
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#783
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Denmark prXarN
And how does that make it a steal from their fans? Where the hell are their fans in this situation? Fans bet on vp -> vp lose legit -> SKINS GONE no matter if pasha would bet or not.
2016-01-06 02:01
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#1313
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Iceland qbZRD
Not to mention that someone from VP even told fans (Not directly) to bet on opponents...
2016-01-06 13:21
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#1415
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Finland bliplbob
Indeed.
2016-01-06 15:33
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oh cmon swedistan dont be mad...... fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-a..
2016-01-06 08:11
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#283
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Fifflaren | 
Sweden fiff1aren
Difference is that the match was allready played since 1-2 days when CSGL put it out on their site, all the players allready knew the outcome since the match wasnt casted live but they show a vod on it with comments.
2016-01-05 23:55
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stole skins from his fans, pretty much the same thing valve says its about integrity, if its about integrity might aswell ban vp
2016-01-06 00:15
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7 replies
#563
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Fifflaren | 
Sweden fiff1aren
Not at all, VP did nothing wrong while CSGL fucked up. VP never throw = should not get banned.
2016-01-06 00:38
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5 replies
"Did nothing wrong" Do you know that there is a blog posted by valve saying pro players should not gamble on pro matches?
2016-01-06 00:46
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4 replies
#965
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Fifflaren | 
Sweden fiff1aren
That is just bullshit, ofc they should be able to gamble. They dont make that much.
2016-01-06 05:40
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2 replies
What valve says goes apparently, and they just happen to not follow through with this.
2016-01-06 05:54
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1 reply
#1314
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Iceland qbZRD
That post was posted after VP did that...
2016-01-06 13:22
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#1298
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United States Cipherr
Blog was posted after the VP incident
2016-01-06 12:59
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it wasnt all of vp who bet after the match was over though wasnt it? I thought it was just pasha
2016-01-06 00:55
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#289
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United States Snoyarc
They didn't throw, he just knew the result because he was apart of it. Essentially insider trading, but nothing he did was necessarily wrong as there weren't rulesets in place preventing him on taking advantage of knowing the result. >"First of all, CSGOLounge didn't know that the match was broadcasted with a recorded demo. FACEIT never told us that the match between Virtus.pro and LDLC.com was played before the scheduled time,"
2016-01-05 23:55
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stole skins from his fans, pretty much the same thing valve says its about integrity, if its about integrity might aswell ban vp
2016-01-06 00:16
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#1334
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World drev1
This is CSGL's own foult, and didn't have an impact on the game. The match was played out, without any throwing deal. Then they bet on CSGL after. This has nothing to do with Valve, it is simply CSGL not doing things the right way. Of course this should never have happened, and is not good sportsmanship, but it is FAR from throwing a match. Now, why did Valve care for the throwing scandal of IBP? Because this changes the INTEGRITY of the matches. No-one could believe any results, or even regard CS as a sport, if they hadn't dealt with it.
2016-01-06 13:54
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#351
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Spain Ocelote
u're dumb as fuck ROFL
2016-01-06 00:05
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5 replies
stole skins from his fans, pretty much the same thing valve says its about integrity, if its about integrity might aswell ban vp u smell like shit faggot
2016-01-06 00:16
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4 replies
#1120
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United Kingdom Ugabanga
You do understand, that they already lost that game and those "fans' skins" were already gone, don't you?
2016-01-06 09:32
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#1354
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Poland badrrr
no he doesnt, he copies that post under almost every reply in this topic, dont feed the troll :)
2016-01-06 14:07
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Not true, the fan skins didn't go to who deserved to win them. The players didn't make a risky bet or anything. They don't deserve the skins. They stole skins from the other people who legitimately bet on the match.
2016-01-16 06:17
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#1352
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Brazil dkf
Competitive integrity. Valve cares about players throwing matches, not about what happens to skins you bet on shady sites.
2016-01-06 14:07
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#689
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apEX | 
Italy kalmahhh
no they didn't.. they played the match, lost, then saw it was still on csgl and bet against themselves... not saying there's nothing wrong with that but not even remotely the same as ibp and epsilon
2016-01-06 01:19
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#762
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Denmark prXarN
Did you actually read the post? It says due to miscommunication the match was still open for bets AFTER it was played, which means it wasn't a throw but simply a loss and pasha wanted to make a small win out of it when he found out AFTERWARDS.
2016-01-06 01:50
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It's not a throw if they bet after they already played the fucking match.
2016-01-06 07:43
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The stream was literally hours after the game had been played, in other words they knew who had won and who they could bet on. However, they did NOT throw.
2016-01-06 08:19
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#1098
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World fukkthem
its not a throw but its a fucking asshole move
2016-01-06 08:53
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1 reply
By far it is, but I see no particular reasons to ban them due to the fact that they did not attempt any sort of match fixing where the lower odds would provide them with huge money gains, like IBP did
2016-01-06 08:54
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They didn't get banned so that they can't throw anymore. They got banned for throwing the first time. There is no second chance to it.
2016-01-06 10:22
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#1675
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Denmark zip-_-
No - VP just abused a shitty betting sites. They never bet on their own match, before it was over. Once the match was over. They heard that a betting site had not yet closed for bets, on a match already finished, so they bet on the match, just like many others. I myself earned 200€ betting on that match, just to see if it worked. This is no matchfixing, but just abuse of a shitty website design. The only ones who can take action in this, is the betting site banning users, abusing a bug or human error.
2016-01-08 08:41
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#220
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Argentina YALONE
RIB IBP [*]
2016-01-05 23:54
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4 replies
#306
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SPUNJ | 
Sweden DoXeNpw
this got to hurt...
2016-01-05 23:57
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3 replies
#353
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United States Origin503
It does. In only a way that gamers and nerds will understand. This brings up a solid point, gambling ruins lives. Maybe I will send an email to the Federal trade commission and my State gambling control office letting them know that people are betting on items which are sold for cash. As an adult it offends me that kids can gamble these items which are bought and paid for with money. Each State in the United States has it's own regulations. I think you should do the same.
2016-01-06 00:06
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#400
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United States Origin503
I think I will start with media outlets actually and let the public come to their own conclusion. Imagine what FOX news, or other media outlets will do with this information. "Is Gambling Corrupting Our Youth?" Tonight on <pick your garbage media source that people buy into like cattle here>
2016-01-06 00:11
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#555
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SPUNJ | 
Sweden DoXeNpw
agree
2016-01-06 00:35
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#846
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United States Dragonborn
Best news right in the beginning of 2016! this just made my day! RIP big nose fck Steel! he was ALWAYS begging for a second chance (to throw endlessly, no doubt) but Valve rekt him hs 720 no scope.
2016-01-06 02:43
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#879
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World ellc22
+1
2016-01-06 03:15
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Unfortunately for ex-IBP what Valve said is correct and in their right to enforce. Hopefully they won't have to do this in the future as ppl will know now you don't do this, at least via fear of perma ban if not from sportsmanship.
2016-01-06 14:09
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+1
2016-01-06 00:11
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#736
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United Kingdom scott744
that wasn't match fixing, they lost and betting was still going on so because they knew the outcome tried to bet, i dont think they got any of the skins anyway... still a dick move to pull on people but not the same as match fixing
2016-01-06 01:33
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illiterate swede spotted
2016-01-06 08:36
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1 reply
third worlder lol lose some weight
2016-01-06 08:42
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#615
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World Fimpe1994
atleast nice that the ragekid dazed got banned
2016-01-06 00:54
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1 reply
#792
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Denmark prXarN
Don't forget steel.
2016-01-06 02:04
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#335
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rain | 
Norway humaNN
Next is VP!
2016-01-06 00:02
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4 replies
#795
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Denmark prXarN
That was not matchfixing.
2016-01-06 02:04
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3 replies
#820
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rain | 
Norway humaNN
No, but they profited from their own match who was played earlier. Aka. fraud.
2016-01-06 02:21
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2 replies
#1089
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Finland Habanos
*tried to profit. (Lounge didn't draft)
2016-01-06 08:44
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#1723
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Denmark prXarN
Not even close being fraud. They took advantage of a mistake, they didn't steal.
2016-01-10 19:35
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#995
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Sweden TR3X1S
Rip steel :/... give them a second chance
2016-01-06 06:24
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Yes, we can read :)
2016-01-06 11:59
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1 reply
#1270
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Spain Alser
You do realise you read this a day after the article came out right? Initially the news only mentioned ex-IBP
2016-01-06 12:24
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#17
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Turkey CNONE
2016-01-05 23:37
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1 reply
2016-01-06 08:12
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SO NICE OMG, YESSSS!!! <3
2016-01-05 23:41
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#203
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World runnr
Those fuckers better release a statement on the VP guys. It's the fucking same. They intentionally put skins on a match they know they're going to win. Don't fucking say it's something different.
2016-01-05 23:48
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27 replies
#226
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Poland Kazurek
they lost a match then put skins on it because the site was fucked, it's not nearly the same as fixing a match before playing it
2016-01-05 23:50
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#236
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World runnr
The site wasn't fucked, just CSGOlounge wasn't uptodate. VP guys knew it and took advantage of it. That's about it. They did it KNOWING it's wrong.
2016-01-05 23:50
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20 replies
#246
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Poland Kazurek
Valve doesn't care about lounge's problems, IBP and Epsilon are banned because they actually fixed their games, not took skins after losing a match normally
2016-01-05 23:51
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#312
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Norway exsecutor
it was lounge fault
2016-01-05 23:58
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17 replies
#321
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World runnr
I think you meant to say "it was VP guys intentionally abusing it"
2016-01-05 23:59
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16 replies
#350
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Norway exsecutor
no, I meant to say that lounge as a betting site fucked up and didnt remove the match
2016-01-06 00:05
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15 replies
#367
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World runnr
And Vp intentionally abused it.
2016-01-06 00:07
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14 replies
#419
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Norway exsecutor
yeah, but its not matchfixing or throwing. they never received any skins. there was no rules against betting on ur own matches, valve or lounge didnt have ANY rules at that point of time. so basicaly lounge fucked up and then fixed their own mistakes
2016-01-06 00:14
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13 replies
#438
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World runnr
There were no rules against throwing either.
2016-01-06 00:16
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12 replies
#463
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Norway exsecutor
aha, and now there are rules against matchfixing, so iBP and Epsilon are banned for matchfixing and VP isnt cuz they didnt throw or matchfix
2016-01-06 00:20
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11 replies
#466
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World runnr
They only intentionally bet skins on the right team knowing it's going to win/lose to gain and at the same time steal money from others that didn't know it.
2016-01-06 00:20
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10 replies
#506
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Norway exsecutor
but it was lounge fault that they were able to bet knowing the results, how can u ban someone when u have no rules and others are fucking things up?
2016-01-06 00:26
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9 replies
#513
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World runnr
Ask Valve, they just banned them without having rules for it.
2016-01-06 00:27
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8 replies
#535
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Norway exsecutor
I am completely fine with those bans. I also think that skadoodle and scream should be banned too, to bad valve cant prove anything
2016-01-06 00:31
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#572
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Finland AnimeRotta
So you are saying you can prove it. Would love to hear your evidence.
2016-01-06 00:42
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5 replies
#581
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Norway exsecutor
No, I didnt say I can prove it. I said that I think they should be banned, but it wont happen cuz valve has no proof of them getting any skins. Can u even read?
2016-01-06 00:45
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4 replies
#599
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Finland AnimeRotta
Yoi said Valve cant prove anything and since you want them banned I though you had the evidence to back your claim. But suddenly Anything becomes "they did not deserve skins" Valve cant prove they match fixed / got skins and you just said that you cant either. Still you want them banned? Very interesting proposition.
2016-01-06 00:49
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#614
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Norway exsecutor
yes, I want them banned. I also want a pizza. You got any problems with that?
2016-01-06 00:53
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2 replies
#625
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Finland AnimeRotta
Not really. I would just like to ask where does this need come from? You said that you nor Valve cant prove anything but they should still get banned. Would be interesting to hear what is causing such a strong conviction.
2016-01-06 00:56
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#649
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Norway exsecutor
Its my personal humble opinion that they should be banned with the others. And it seems that you want to be my personal psychologist if u want to know where my needs come from so, pls tell me more. How much $/hr do I have to pay for ur help?
2016-01-06 01:03
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#1573
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Germany P3tR
As you said they are not gonna be banned cause there is no / not rnough evidence they were involved. Every free court in the world would decide the same.
2016-01-07 00:10
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#377
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Sweden Anunnaki
VP situation is very different lol they didn't MATCH FIX which is what these bans are for you under they perma MATCH FIXERS not people who are smart af to gain some easy skins cause CSGOLounge are stupid af hopefully you understand.
2016-01-06 00:09
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They essentially took a part of the money from guys who won their bet on the match. While not exactly the same thing, it's still a fucking horrible thing to do.
2016-01-06 00:15
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#1336
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Canada xYzGaming
this
2016-01-06 13:55
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#698
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apEX | 
Italy kalmahhh
Just no, VP didn't compromise the integrity of the game. They played, and lost fair and square. It wasn't right, but they took advantage of CSGL's mistake. Not on the same level at all.
2016-01-06 01:22
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#807
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Denmark prXarN
ex-ibp bet on their own match beforehand to lose it intentionally to make cash. vp lost legit and realized that the match was still open for bets due to miscommunication and took advantage of it which i bet you would've done aswell. It's not even close being the same thing, taking advantage of something is legal, matchfixing is not.
2016-01-06 02:13
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#1058
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Latvia FroozYw0w
+
2016-01-06 07:56
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#221
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Finland RAMBATEN
Only right decision...THANKS VALVE I LOVE YOU!!
2016-01-05 23:49
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dude valve has some issues lol saltyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
2016-01-06 02:03
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#1067
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s1mple | 
Lithuania vodin
RIP SWAG QQ
2016-01-06 08:15
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Wow. Just RIP Braxton "Swag" Pierce... He eoulda been the great 5th man on Cloud9. Just why permanent Valve. Everyone needs a 2nd chance. If they do that again just ban them. Cause why some people have a 2nd chance but these players dont have a Second chance at playing good and succesful career. You Valve just fucked up their day and even career. There is no logic. There needs to be a second chance for everything. But now noone does.
2016-01-06 10:44
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1 reply
#1436
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Denmark Din mor
There is a lot of logic in this. They are thieves and deserve a ban
2016-01-06 16:08
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#1200
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Vietnam piem0l
2016-01-06 10:59
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1 reply
#1358
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HeatoN | 
Kuwait 475776
2016-01-06 14:13
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#1410
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Sweden Maoux551
This is bs
2016-01-06 15:17
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#1622
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World doncamillo
Yeah, wrong topic but i dont care. m0e is a Cheater. Valve should ban him from all tournaments aswell. youtu.be/BaUBtvAOJZk
2016-01-07 13:27
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#1717
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United Kingdom simonmz
lol
2016-01-09 17:49
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I like how these guys are banned but Ex-MyRevenge aren't banned. What the hell is this? hltv.org/news/13941-myrevenge-lose-csgo-.. MYREVENGE THREW A MATCH FOR SKINS AND THEY ARE NOT BANNED!
2016-01-11 11:09
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#2
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oskar | 
Europe gatsby__
:(
2016-01-05 23:37
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6 replies
#45
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Ukraine  Pasha
rip ibp
2016-01-05 23:38
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rip swag
2016-01-05 23:42
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#919
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HeatoN | 
Kuwait 475776
ESEAs response: " As the year long bans are set to expire for those involved with match fixing, ESEA will be allowing those users to return to play Pugs/Scrims on ESEA. At this time, those players will not be eligible to play in the ESEA League on any level, which we will continue to review." play.esea.net/index.php?s=forums&d=topic..
2016-01-06 04:16
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3 replies
#1188
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Panama allu_snackbar
that means dzd or steel wont be playing FPL this year? only pugs?
2016-01-06 10:46
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2 replies
#1215
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HeatoN | 
Kuwait 475776
Faceit is running FPL, not ESEA, so they can still participate in FPL
2016-01-06 11:16
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1 reply
#1332
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United States Dragonborn
steel is over. his career is done and confirmed now 100%. he can only attend some small shitty lans, like fragadelphia which features his toxic partner m0e.
2016-01-06 13:52
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Yes
2016-01-05 23:37
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3 replies
#732
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Brazil hono
2016-01-06 01:31
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2 replies
#894
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duz | 
Australia ResqLAD
What is this bullshit? Confirmed valve only care about dota scene.
2016-01-06 03:30
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#1300
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States Cipherr
Favoritism confirmed rip csgo
2016-01-06 13:01
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#4
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World SilverElite
gg ibp
2016-01-05 23:37
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7 replies
with iBP goes the whole NA scene
2016-01-05 23:51
0
3 replies
#330
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
captainMo | 
Sweden d0mpi
true
2016-01-06 00:01
0
#522
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bangladesh Qubex
Lol ibp was never even that great of a team. People, most of which haven't even watch ibp play before, get so upset over this ban. Yes they had so much potential but not in the form that they once were
2016-01-06 00:29
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1 reply
#1574
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Germany P3tR
Losing to penta in group stage of dhw :>
2016-01-07 00:13
0
lucky ibp sticker
2016-01-06 01:52
0
2 replies
#819
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
markeloff | 
United States mmotorcycle
*quadruples in price*
2016-01-06 02:21
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1 reply
Wow you will make a big fortune xddd
2016-01-06 03:04
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#5
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United Kingdom lliW
:((
2016-01-05 23:37
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1 reply
#907
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain jorgeroe
:((
2016-01-06 03:53
0
#6
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil chococaine
get burger
2016-01-05 23:37
0
1 reply
#373
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bangladesh kioskmongo21
cya in chell burger))
2016-01-06 00:08
0
#7
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland EC3
damn son
2016-01-05 23:37
0
#8
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland Arcse
gg
2016-01-05 23:37
0
#9
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
frozen | 
Slovakia ArtFull
rip
2016-01-05 23:37
0
#10
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland merdevice
first
2016-01-05 23:37
0
1 reply
almost
2016-01-06 02:26
0
#11
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom xenossszzzZ
rip Edit: hopefully faceit etc unban them and allow them to play, majors only 4 tournaments a year still can compete. Dazed has like 1500+ subs on twitch now and said he doesn't care if he is perma banned because he enjoys streaming more, fair enough.
2016-01-05 23:39
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5 replies
#171
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Albania Edgesekatre
Don't believe he enjoys streaming more. These guys live for the competition otherwise they would have never started to make a living out of it. Anyway still feel like majors are the most important tournaments but with the Turner league (2,4m$) that changes everything. If Turner dont ban them aswell.
2016-01-05 23:45
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2 replies
#489
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World gyshter
Still better than a 9-5 job.
2016-01-06 00:23
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1 reply
#1096
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Albania Edgesekatre
It sure is
2016-01-06 08:50
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#911
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States dualian
just look at the way they rage during fpl matches u'll know they really card
2016-01-06 04:00
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#1537
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark diOnysos
Yeah maybe so, bit the minors are all leading upto majors so those are offlimit too.
2016-01-06 20:50
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#13
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
DAVEY | 
France Aladdin70
rip :(
2016-01-05 23:37
0
#14
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal MondimDesigns
BYE DAZED AND CO.
2016-01-05 23:37
0
#15
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France SeeebZ
VUCK FOLVO
2016-01-05 23:37
0
4 replies
#586
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Mexico hu5h
Rip ex ibp but most importantly RIP FXY0 <\\\\\\\3 [*][*][*][*][*]
2016-01-06 00:46
0
3 replies
#590
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France SeeebZ
Nobody cares about this toxic retard
2016-01-06 00:47
0
1 reply
#835
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Mexico hu5h
SeeebZ0
2016-01-06 02:33
0
#1196
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
KRIMZ | 
Poland deolic
I agree :(
2016-01-06 10:56
0
#16
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada Vhol
REST IN PEACE
2016-01-05 23:37
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#18
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil 1RevoLTz
NA CS EleGiggle EleGiggle
2016-01-05 23:37
0
#19
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Azerbaijan IMakeHS
RIP SWAG
2016-01-05 23:37
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1 reply
#734
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States Say Apple
never forget
2016-01-06 01:32
0
#20
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
North America Fizzledipp
whoa
2016-01-05 23:37
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#22
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden Donger89
Rekt
2016-01-05 23:37
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#23
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal Rapin
FUCK YOU VALVE FUCK YOU GABEN
2016-01-05 23:37
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3 replies
#74
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Europe  Skaarj
2016-01-05 23:39
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2 replies
you obviously dont know what butthurt is
2016-01-06 00:00
0
1 reply
#658
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bulgaria sN7
rapin is
2016-01-06 01:07
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#26
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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France daniel19
[*]
2016-01-05 23:37
0
#27
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland HAZARD-
:(
2016-01-05 23:38
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#28
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom Chapizzle
FeelsBadMan
2016-01-05 23:38
0
gg c9
2016-01-05 23:38
0
FUCKING TRASH VALVE... FUCK OFF i knew it was permanent but still :& FUCK
2016-01-05 23:38
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#32
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States stzLiFE
Sucks to be you, nerds
2016-01-05 23:38
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3 replies
#654
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland Smoonah
rip CS career
2016-01-06 01:05
0
2 replies
#1637
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States stzLiFE
i know its a shame, the penalty is harsh. But these kids are dumb as shit for risking the opportunity they had
2016-01-07 15:27
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1 reply
#1647
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland Smoonah
They deserve every bit of it.
2016-01-07 19:02
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#33
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Germany SchaffeR37
i feel sorry 4 the players who ..wait .. i dont
2016-01-05 23:38
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#34
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden bustaN
rip
2016-01-05 23:38
0
#35
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World runnr
RiP swag wasted fucking talent 4 life at least move on man, so many things to do ;)
2016-01-05 23:38
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5 replies
#49
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Costa Rica Gomezio
Pro CoD player inc, already has the perfect name for that scene
2016-01-05 23:38
0
4 replies
#55
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World runnr
rofl
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#115
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Luxembourg kubonex
hahahahahahaha
2016-01-05 23:42
0
#655
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GruBy | 
Poland MyNameIsMyName
pc cod scene doesn't exist
2016-01-06 01:06
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1 reply
#1085
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada Prev0st
yo he's a yanky, he has money for xbox juan m8
2016-01-06 08:40
0
#36
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom TheMclJoe
WHATTT SHIIIETTT
2016-01-05 23:38
0
#37
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ropz | 
Latvia `DinGo
:O
2016-01-05 23:38
0
#38
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Palestine _Maister
Deserved
2016-01-05 23:38
0
4 replies
#91
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Xyp9x | 
Denmark DFTBA
+1
2016-01-05 23:40
0
3 replies
#639
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia spraynpray
+2
2016-01-06 01:00
0
2 replies
#881
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Other JW_best
+3
2016-01-06 03:18
0
1 reply
#1509
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Germany SchaffeR37
+4
2016-01-06 18:48
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#39
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States itzgin
It took them THIS LONG to say this? ....LOL wow.
2016-01-05 23:38
0
11 replies
#208
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Sandays
honestly...
2016-01-05 23:48
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#383
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Hayashin
i bet it was a hard, emotional journey coming to this conclusion
2016-01-06 00:09
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#501
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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France Ga5huX
Actually it's the community which wasn't smart enough to understand the very first report. Valve have always been clear, just fanboys give themselves hope turning words used by Valve at their advantage.
2016-01-06 00:25
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8 replies
If it was so clear they should have said permanent in the first place
2016-01-06 00:48
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#662
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States itzgin
Which wasn't smart enough? don't give me that shit, acting like you and others are superior, it wasn't clear AT ALL, it was hinted at/etc, but not clear in the least. How hard is it to say "IT IS A PERMANENT BAN"? not hard at all. Get real.
2016-01-06 01:10
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3 replies
ermygaawdd muricans and engrish can not read engrish ermygawwdd look at dota throwers perma ban csgo throwers also perma ban.. no logic? no brain? im laughing my ass off right naaww and i would love to see that dickhead steels face after he reads this :D
2016-01-06 18:09
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2 replies
#1548
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States itzgin
I didn't think anyone could be this stupid.
2016-01-06 21:37
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#1648
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland Smoonah
read first four words and stopped reading, intelligence level appears to be too low.
2016-01-07 19:04
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#726
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
s1mple | 
United Kingdom Glevin96
i re-read it, and it is not clear at all...
2016-01-06 01:29
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#861
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States ev8
technically you have to make shit up in your brain in order for the first statement to contain secret messages just for the enlightened
2016-01-06 02:57
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Or maybe you are too ignorant to realize it was indefinite. They even said again it was indefinite prior to this. Pay attention before you humiliate yourself anymore with your arrogant stupidity.
2016-01-06 05:13
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#40
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom vanqu1sh
hahahaha
2016-01-05 23:38
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#41
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Germany maNiPul8
Light a candle for ibp [*]
2016-01-05 23:38
0
2 replies
#318
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland misterr
why? for throwing games?
2016-01-05 23:59
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1 reply
#724
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States johnnyferrori^
like dozens of teams do? as if VP never threw games, they just never got caught.
2016-01-06 01:29
0
#42
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Switzerland Erudagor
Nice GG !
2016-01-05 23:38
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#43
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
sad
2016-01-05 23:38
0
#44
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Croatia synzi
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2016-01-05 23:38
0
#46
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain PittaZor
RIP
2016-01-05 23:38
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#50
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany LxyU
Dazed deserves this so much
2016-01-05 23:38
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1 reply
#204
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France SeeebZ
It's not a personnal thing, all the guys who agreed on the throw deserve a punishment. (I'm not saying a perma ban though)
2016-01-05 23:48
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#51
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo
shame. i think ibp guys deserve a second chance but any future bans do remain permanent
2016-01-05 23:38
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3 replies
#107
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Costa Rica Gomezio
I do kind of think that since is the first major case of this in CSGO, a life ban is extreme. A 2 year ban here and for ex-Epsilon and a statement to make it clear that any future incidents will result in lifetime bans would be fair, in my opinion.
2016-01-05 23:41
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2 replies
#122
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo
+1
2016-01-05 23:42
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#682
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ireland sekke
I understand what you think and I kinda feel the same way, but accidents like these has happend multiple times in real life sport events and honestly, the only way this here differs is the amount of money 'lost'. Of course you can argue their young age and people doing this crime normally wont get a life sentence in prison. :b
2016-01-06 01:15
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#52
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Australia CKS
So will Epsilion be banned as well? cause I thought they were getting unbanned
2016-01-05 23:39
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1 reply
#198
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland |Borowcy
banned
2016-01-05 23:47
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#53
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway Wes J
what a bunch of crap
2016-01-05 23:39
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#56
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ZywOo | 
Zimbabwe Vizions
rip fxy0
2016-01-05 23:39
0
1 reply
#837
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Mexico hu5h
rip [*]
2016-01-06 02:35
0
[*]
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#58
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Senpai | 
Estonia Senpai__
rip [*]
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#59
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark geerZo
#freeswag
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#61
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil Lucasxp
YEAAAAAAAAH!!!! good job valve.
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#63
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
xseveN | 
Finland NUCL3AR
2016-01-05 23:39
0
2 replies
#448
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil baleia
beautiful and sad at the same time :')
2016-01-06 00:17
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#855
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil ChoKe_Clan_no_major
ROFL
2016-01-06 02:50
0
#64
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands allcaps
rip
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#65
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom PrinzEugen
VUCK FALVE I'm not an NA fanqay, but that's a terrible fucking decision you fucks.
2016-01-05 23:39
0
hope all valve devs die fuck you faggots
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#68
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
AnJ | 
Denmark devonBFD
RIP NA CS [*]
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#69
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland maxiu
true. dont want to see steel in Major or something . but SWAG rly sorry :(
2016-01-05 23:39
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1 reply
#505
REZ | 
Sweden jackir
he would shit on 90% of na players
2016-01-06 00:26
0
FUCK VALVE .|.
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#71
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Canada melooooooo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YOU VALVE IM NOT PLAYING THIS GAME VERY AGIAN FUCK YOU PEIECE OF FUCKING SHITS
2016-01-05 23:39
0
6 replies
#161
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Scotland KRaZeY
calm down...
2016-01-05 23:45
0
#174
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Europe  Skaarj
2016-01-05 23:46
0
4 replies
#199
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada melooooooo
not only nerd rage but valves stupidity made me rage
2016-01-05 23:47
0
3 replies
#244
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Europe  Skaarj
Dude. It was obvious from beginning. That was too serious action in crucial (for CSGO business) moment. Valve had to send strong signal to settle things up - especially for sponsors.
2016-01-05 23:51
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1 reply
#673
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Canada Runtness
Yes, but one can dream.
2016-01-06 01:13
0
#503
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland bliplbob
It was totally deserved.
2016-01-06 00:25
0
#72
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World porter-
i hope u like your skins swag :))))))
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#73
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ropz | 
Finland wormi
rip NA
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#75
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Czech Republic dreamARTz
Thanks Obama
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#76
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States 420blazescope
Kekmate NA scene
2016-01-05 23:39
0
#77
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
tr1p | 
United States brento
sad
2016-01-05 23:40
0
RIP steel
2016-01-05 23:40
0
HAHAHAHAH
2016-01-05 23:40
0
#80
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North America DaRealMVPGOAT
It isn't fair, what happened to the epsilon guys then? why their ban was just for a year?
2016-01-05 23:40
0
1 reply
#279
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Spain Alser
ex-Epsilon banned forevah
2016-01-05 23:54
0
LOL, RIP
2016-01-05 23:40
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#82
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden larsbananas
NOICE! :> Kinda sad for Swag as he was so young though. But one could say he was old enough.
2016-01-05 23:40
0
#83
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States TriggerHPY
[*]
2016-01-05 23:40
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#84
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Goalie | 
United Kingdom LaoG
Not fair. There were not rules in place at the time that said "no match fixing" at least i can't remember.
2016-01-05 23:40
0
1 reply
#1480
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Europe alertaA
Good argument Kappa
2016-01-06 17:22
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#85
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina WAN7Z
Duc “cud” Pham Derek “dboorn” Boorn Casey Foster Sam “Dazed” Marine Braxton “swag” Pierce Keven “AZK” Larivière Joshua “Steel” Nissan rip [*] rip [*] rip [*]
2016-01-05 23:40
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1 reply
#1325
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United States Dragonborn
the biggest tears were/are being shed by steel right now. that guy has been totally demolished, like utterly destroyed by this news. i'm pretty sure he'll never fully recover - i mean, what's left for him to do now? continue to stream for small change donations like an aimless piece of sht and ban his viewers for calling him a thrower or get a job irl?
2016-01-06 13:46
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#86
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe k9ken
rip swag[*]
2016-01-05 23:40
0
9 replies
#148
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Luxembourg kubonex
he knew about the throw, he took part in the throw and deserves to get banned for life, his age 17 shouldnt be taken into consideration as its almost adult age
2016-01-05 23:43
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8 replies
#277
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Sandays
all 17 year-olds worth being considered adults?...Nah
2016-01-05 23:54
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1 reply
#1220
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Luxembourg kubonex
in this case swag deserves to get banned, they knew that throwing and cheating is illegal so they knew the consequences friend
2016-01-06 11:21
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#301
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland |Borowcy
"deserves to get banned for life" throwing a very irrevelant match when there were no rules regarding throwing?
2016-01-05 23:56
0
Can someone link a video of a 17 year doing some stupid shit that proves they aren't adults?
2016-01-06 00:06
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2 replies
#1223
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Luxembourg kubonex
yes great so every player under 17 can just throw games because they are too young to understand. you are fucking idiot if you think that. swag knew the risks of that throw and deserves to get punished. he was supposed to be NA star and he threw a game aganist some noobs?
2016-01-06 11:22
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1 reply
#1322
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Dragonborn
swag is just trying to use his one-year-less-than-legal-age as an excuse to justify his stupidity. in that case, all pre-18 year olds should be jailed before turn 18, since from that logic, they're gonna fucked up everything for them and others anyway. yeah, right. swag fanboys need to go back to school.
2016-01-06 13:43
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#642
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f0rsakeN | 
Sweden SithLord
You know what, you're right! Lets all go after Skadoodle! This fucking snake got off easy.
2016-01-06 01:01
0
so rip skadoodle then
2016-01-06 01:20
0
#87
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany Labi
It's over.
2016-01-05 23:40
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RIP :(
2016-01-05 23:40
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#89
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway KRIMZMEISTER!
VALVE CONFIRMED NAZI'S. FUCK YOU. FUCK OFF.
2016-01-05 23:40
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#97
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World truestory_
Goodbye ScreaM
2016-01-05 23:41
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3 replies
not sure if troll or just retarded
2016-01-05 23:50
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#287
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World truestory_
He was aware, bringing proof to valve right now
2016-01-05 23:55
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1 reply
i hope youre not bullshitting))
2016-01-06 06:30
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#98
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France SeeebZ
I can't stop laughting when i'm reading their retarded statement
2016-01-05 23:41
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#101
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway theNe
It's a sad day for america, and just so that volvo can use them as examples for non-toleranse towards match-fixing, like we don't get it know; although I would argue the players should have different bans depending on how much they were involved in the matchfix. kvolvo
2016-01-05 23:41
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#1285
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium Zapper1337
You can't know how much they were involved it's impossible to know or the information you are going to get would only come from the people that were punished for doing match fixing thus from plain liers. When you have those ibp players that were streaming and having a lot of viewers and fame in the US and that they would trow a match to gain skins, well all the people that are behind them and would put skins on their beloved team ibp would lose them. They scamed their own fans i think that's the worse you can do is scam people that go to events to watch you. Permanent ban for all players that do that is a good thing, cheating should be the same. Epsilona players got the same ban as ibp finaly it got clarified.
2016-01-06 12:43
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#102
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Reunion LumiLumi
GETREKT STEAL AND CO! :D
2016-01-05 23:41
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1 reply
GETREKT STEAL AND CO! :D
2016-01-06 11:35
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#103
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland Geeberg
hahaaa!
2016-01-05 23:41
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#104
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe movie/13/
RIP SWAG
2016-01-05 23:41
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#105
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
allu | 
Finland Fherrera
RIP
2016-01-05 23:41
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#108
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States Mikeybeast9
RIP
2016-01-05 23:41
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#110
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden mlns
steel my baby :+(
2016-01-05 23:41
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2016-01-05 23:41
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rip ibp
2016-01-05 23:41
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#116
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Tunisia dragadan
permaREKT
2016-01-05 23:42
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#117
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Snax | 
Germany kLAbu$ztA
hahaha rip
2016-01-05 23:42
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to be honest my friend, they dont deserve for rekt
2016-01-05 23:42
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#119
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Italy maapo
everyone in the world deserves a 2nd chance even muslims who rapes 9 year old kid needs to get 2nd chance and not 70 hours of community service
2016-01-05 23:42
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FUCK U VALVE
2016-01-05 23:42
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5 replies
GETREKT STEAL AND CO! :D
2016-01-05 23:42
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4 replies
heres the reply ur begging for
2016-01-05 23:43
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3 replies
no i didnt want a reply. im sorry, i didnt mean to hurt your feelings. you were only the first mericanflag user i've seen here :(
2016-01-05 23:44
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2 replies
heres the reply ur begging for
2016-01-05 23:45
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1 reply
#925
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Brazil jgger
cry
2016-01-06 04:50
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#123
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North America HOBOCSGO
there were zero rules when they threw.....
2016-01-05 23:42
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8 replies
#167
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Goalie | 
United Kingdom LaoG
exactly what i'm saying, they can't permaban them for something that technically didnt break the damn rules...
2016-01-05 23:45
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2 replies
#232
KRIMZ | 
Germany iN9N
+1
2016-01-05 23:50
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#741
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United States johnnyferrori^
The sad thing is.. they can easily make a BS rule right now: "All throws before before date will be permabanned." and will still be official. Valve still owns everything so they have the last say. Sucks but thats the truth
2016-01-06 01:35
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only common sense. honesty. honor. fans to be not disappointed and robbed. role model function to live up to... but no actual rule, you're right :) deserved for rekt!
2016-01-05 23:46
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Stll are zero rules lmfao.
2016-01-05 23:49
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3 replies
#223
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North America HOBOCSGO
nah there are rules on csgolounge that you cant bet on a game that you are playing in
2016-01-05 23:49
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2 replies
#325
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United States gotrice541
Except that the IBP members DIDN'T bet on their own game. They had someone else do it on other accounts. So technically they didn't even break the rule you just mentioned.
2016-01-06 00:00
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1 reply
That's some deep shit right there man...
2016-01-06 00:07
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#124
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Finland juhob
holy crap
2016-01-05 23:42
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1 reply
#142
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Finland Jonzu95
notice me senpai
2016-01-05 23:43
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RIP IBP
2016-01-05 23:42
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#126
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Poland hillock
I think other organisations still can unban them from their tournaments, so there's still hope
2016-01-05 23:42
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#129
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World ako7
good decision, now people will be too afraid to throw games.
2016-01-05 23:42
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#131
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Belgium gilisen
:( Hope tournament organisers will lift their bans till valve major becomes irrelevant :4 I know I'm dreaming
2016-01-05 23:42
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#132
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tabseN | 
France shoxAttorney
lets hope oher tournament organizers show some brain valve should finally be overthrown, they dont contribute shit, but earn the most from cs
2016-01-05 23:42
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1 reply
#1026
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Canada chillcs
yes
2016-01-06 07:06
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#133
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JW | 
Finland Ilucs
Fuck skins.
2016-01-05 23:42
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#135
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Delpan | 
United States FEJSPALM
cmon dude, thats not fair
2016-01-05 23:42
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#137
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Hungary hntlw
Yet another unthought heedless retarded decision made by Valve. THX GUYS, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB RUINING THE GAME, FUCKING FATASS WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHITS.
2016-01-05 23:43
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The team they just banned for life were the ones that tried to ruin they game, they got fucking rid of the spewwy rats that try to ruin this game, you should be thanking them you if you love this game and don't want it "RUINED" You stupid moron lol.
2016-01-06 09:54
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3 replies
#1417
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Hungary hntlw
Caring about shitty skins ruins the game you retard. They won skins, not real money, swedistan
2016-01-06 15:50
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2 replies
Holy fuck, reading what you just typed, makes me wanna murder your whole family for raising such a stupid fucking idiot. I won't read your reply to this. It will be worse then cancer.
2016-01-06 16:36
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1 reply
#1482
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Hungary hntlw
With this comment you just proved that you're mental and dumb as fuck. off you go
2016-01-06 17:26
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#138
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Europe maskiN
h3h3h3h3h3 rekt fgt
2016-01-05 23:43
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#141
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United Kingdom des9re
Good. Can't fault Valve at all. Making an example.
2016-01-05 23:43
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rip[*]
2016-01-05 23:43
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#145
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NanardBE | 
France Xerma
HAHAHAHAHA
2016-01-05 23:43
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#146
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Sweden zLEOJ/oo7
na just playing with their (fore)skins as always.
2016-01-05 23:43
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#147
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Canada WeDidIt
nice 1 valve u shitbags
2016-01-05 23:43
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#149
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States triq6
rip NA
2016-01-05 23:43
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#152
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Netherlands Baapje<3
Haha rekt, fucking throwing feggits.
2016-01-05 23:44
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#153
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Latvia prelideN
It's such a bullshit. Amazing players get banned because there were 0 rules before that you can get any ban for that. When first players got banned, other players threw knowing they are risking with ban, they got only 1 year ban and still they can participate now. Valve, you add shit things to game, and now u do shit things, wp. This is literally most retarded thing you could do.
2016-01-05 23:44
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7 replies
#216
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Brazil AllanAPS
cry is free
2016-01-05 23:49
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#371
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Syria pellesnabel
epsilon got permabanned too. "To clarify, the bans for these players are permanent, and players proven to have taken part in match-fixing will be permanently banned," Valve wrote.
2016-01-06 00:07
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#451
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Latvia newsYk
What do you mean? It's god damn match fixing. You fix a match in any sport and you are done, simple as that. P.S. Which guys got only 1 year ban? Enlighten me.
2016-01-06 00:18
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1 reply
?? In Italian football they just get relegated to lower divisions and they work their way back up again within a few seasons
2016-01-06 16:40
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So because there was no rules it's ok to fix match results. Great logic. You do know people go to jail if this happens in real sports right? These IBP thieves deserved permaban. We don't need scumbags like that in cs scene.
2016-01-06 00:34
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2 replies
#670
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Latvia emgape
Un real sports they fix for millions of dollars. Here they got a few thousand dollars in fucking skins lol
2016-01-06 01:12
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1 reply
#1262
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f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo
thats why they should be banned forever. they could win more money in one month by playing instead of doing that
2016-01-06 12:15
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#154
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Australia GO_Tor
HAHAHAHAHAHA RIP! LOL..... If they were dealing in REAL money and not skins, they'd be in prison.. use your heads you raging dimwitted nerds
2016-01-05 23:44
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2 replies
#210
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Turkey lDexx
finally an imature guy knows what stealing means fuck fan boys
2016-01-05 23:48
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#1078
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Germany phate1337
+
2016-01-06 08:34
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#155
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Brazil MafiosoSA
rest in peace
2016-01-05 23:44
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#156
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Greece theophilos13
FUCK YOU VOLVO WHEN ALL BET COMPANIES HAD FOR BETTING CS HOW YOU WILL FIND IF SOME TEAMS WILL THROW GAMES NOW?
2016-01-05 23:44
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1 reply
#958
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Greece flyOaO
rip DAZED :(
2016-01-06 05:24
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#158
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Europe GodKingObama
THANKS OBAMA
2016-01-05 23:44
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#159
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shox | 
Greece tzonis
rip swag
2016-01-05 23:44
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#165
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swag | 
Ukraine Marc0nline
Nooo, R.I.P. ex-IBP? =/
2016-01-05 23:45
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#166
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Bojackss
Yeah, wait a whole year to decide an already made decision. fucking retards
2016-01-05 23:45
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#168
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steel | 
United States PapaJohnsPizza
they are only banned from steam events, the players can still play esea, cevo, EPL events etc etc.
2016-01-05 23:45
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#170
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steel | 
Belarus Ruble
LOL RIP VALVE get cancer
2016-01-05 23:45
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#172
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Poland marco555
sad
2016-01-05 23:45
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET REKTTTTTTTTTTT I LOVE YOU VALVE BRB SPENDING $1000 ON CASES
2016-01-05 23:46
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RIOT
2016-01-05 23:46
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#176
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Thailand SNEAKYSNITCH
haha steel
2016-01-05 23:46
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#178
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Finland Emvi
NICE! the right move to make
2016-01-05 23:46
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#179
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Norway adeyo
good job valve
2016-01-05 23:46
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#180
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Germany macuser007
not sure what valve wants to prove here... matchfixing is wrong in any case but i feel like valve only wants to show their power on this one. Like many people of the pro scene said i'm sure that there was and is much more matchfixing which remains undetected.
2016-01-05 23:48
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rip hahaha
2016-01-05 23:46
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#182
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Portugal jO7A
This is a mistake by Valve. Ok this was a scandall but CSGO =/= football/basketball or anykind of real sports. Unbanning them will be bad for bets in their favor (in this case ex-iBP if they came back with a team) because almost no one will trust them. I understand but imagine if Barça/RM throw a match in their Nation Cup (Copa del Rey) to don't met each other and someone has proofs that Barça/RM threw the match. You think that they'll get banned from this Cupa forever? Well they will get disqualified for sure but not permanently. I give a little example which is 10 times worse than ex-iBP scandall.
2016-01-05 23:46
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1 reply
#262
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Turkey lDexx
buy la liga has barca and rm indeed csgo has fnatic nip envy qm and many others if barca and rm banned la liga ends but cs community doesnt need fckn ibp throwers
2016-01-05 23:53
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#185
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United Kingdom gstQ
at least they got skins guys
2016-01-05 23:46
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#186
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Canada rayrayrayray
Meanwhile cheaters and ex cheaters continue to play without a problem, gj valve
2016-01-05 23:46
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#189
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Turkey Yossi_Kohen
i feel sorry for swag [*]
2016-01-05 23:47
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#190
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
I guess HLTV stuff will soon remove Dazed's, steel's, swag's azk's streams from the main page with these news or maybe not...
2016-01-05 23:47
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1 reply
#719
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Denmark hehenoob
hltv doesn't give a shit on who is featured on their streaming list, they use this list as a way to try to hurt some streamers for example removing mOE because he is not relevant yet they have miniw who only was known because his brother played for SK and he ringed for them at one lan.
2016-01-06 01:27
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#191
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Italy Sgare
that would be good if the banned NA players would create a team and win every tournament where they can partecipate :D
2016-01-05 23:47
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3 replies
#219
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Europe ezk001
>NA >win tournament pick one
2016-01-05 23:49
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2 replies
I pick NA LAN
2016-01-06 00:09
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1 reply
Team with EU player to win
2016-01-06 06:39
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#192
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cyx | 
Netherlands vldpkha
Gay
2016-01-05 23:47
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#193
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Australia decap
Good call valve. I lost $150 worth of skins in that game...
2016-01-05 23:47
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youtube.com/watch?v=fE29vH3H6do youtube.com/watch?v=fE29vH3H6do youtube.com/watch?v=fE29vH3H6do youtube.com/watch?v=fE29vH3H6do Hahahaha get DESTROY by valve amerika DOGS)))) Mad yankee???)))) GJ Valve) Skanooble need ban to, he know about throw)))
2016-01-05 23:47
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2 replies
You obviously have something personal against NA and let that sway your opinion instead of judging the actual situation at hand. I bet if this was Natus Vincere instead you would have a different opinion.
2016-01-06 15:03
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1 reply
bomb usa bomb usa
2016-01-06 16:40
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REKT
2016-01-05 23:47
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#196
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Europe ezk001
GOOD JOB VALVE! WELL DONE! Now add all the cheaters to this Black List!
2016-01-05 23:47
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1 reply
#252
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Ukraine sdmazahaka
+
2016-01-05 23:52
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#197
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Ireland Intrilo
[*]
2016-01-05 23:47
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#200
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
hardstyle | 
Portugal vtsJTC
bad move from valve -respect
2016-01-05 23:48
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#201
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jL | 
Lithuania mao~
good job valve!
2016-01-05 23:48
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#205
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United States Granonaloof
Lmao Steel is going to kill himself and Dazed might steal a gun from a cop and go on a shooting spree.
2016-01-05 23:48
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1 reply
dazed is probably the one most likely to shoot up a school if I'm honest
2016-01-06 00:10
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#206
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North Macedonia banne1 [b]
get fuckd reddit
2016-01-05 23:48
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1 reply
#1700
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ZywOo | 
France 1zn0
get fucked by your drunk father you piece of shiet
2016-01-08 22:55
0
YESSSSSSS Justice is real sometimes....
2016-01-05 23:48
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#211
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United Kingdom MerlinatoR
valve you so smart you loyal
2016-01-05 23:49
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1 reply
#224
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Netherlands juncie
You're Grateful. I appreciate that Valve
2016-01-05 23:51
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#212
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France Busy P
Thank god to never seeing DaZeD's face in an event again
2016-01-05 23:49
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#213
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Turkey lDexx
well deserved
2016-01-05 23:49
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#215
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Spain fd`
Murican scene is a joke so it does not matter.
2016-01-05 23:49
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#217
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Danzk1
Rekt
2016-01-05 23:49
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#222
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
coldzera | 
North America ashamed
nice valve
2016-01-05 23:49
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#225
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Poland BoltPL
I'm not gonna defend them cuz it was pathetic, but i think that 2-3 years of ban would be quite paintful and they would have their chance for redemtpion
2016-01-05 23:50
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get fakin rekt
2016-01-05 23:50
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#228
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Chile MrJav1er
swag :c FeelsBadMan
2016-01-05 23:50
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#229
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North America Foxaika
Unfortunate, really. Not that I wish to say that what they did was okay or anything, but the loss of talent to the game really hurts, especially in North America.
2016-01-05 23:50
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#230
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Canada TheBestEver
even though I think one year of waiting was too much... they could let them know after 1 month of thinking or something... Valve should've shown some respect to the guys and helped to build NA Scene and after a year away from competing they're the best of their continent (apart from LG)... btw I think Ska should be banned aswell since he was part of the team who throw, he played so he threw too just my opinion guys
2016-01-05 23:50
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4 replies
#251
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Brazil Observer10
Indeed, ska should have been banned too. I mean, 4 guys of his team threw and he didn't? However, that's not how justice works, and without evidence they simply cannot ban skadoodle.
2016-01-05 23:52
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3 replies
#322
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Canada TheBestEver
true.. I like him but imo he should be banned... Valve just said they care about CSGO and competition, I would like to ask them why they creater that revolver... thats how much they care... more guns, more skins, more money! thats all they care about!
2016-01-06 00:00
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#341
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World runnr
They can. They can do whatever the fuck they want.
2016-01-06 00:04
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1 reply
#349
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Brazil Observer10
They can, of course, but people would hate valve because there is no proof (I suppose there isn't any proof at least). That's why valve didn't ban him.
2016-01-06 00:05
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#233
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Romania miezu
good job valve :) no one should make bad matches for fucking skins :)
2016-01-05 23:50
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#234
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Brazil Observer10
Since the guys that threw for epsilon are permabanned aswell, then I should say this decision is fair, altough very harsh. In my opinion, 1 or 2 years would be enough.
2016-01-05 23:50
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only banned if you take skins not if you throw hahaha
2016-01-05 23:50
0
Vuck falve
2016-01-05 23:50
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#238
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Hong Kong Holysh!t
Rip ibp
2016-01-05 23:50
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#240
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Turkey vect0rx
n1
2016-01-05 23:50
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#241
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Poland COA92
rip [*]
2016-01-05 23:51
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Valve didn't want NA cs to be back fighting at the top, imo its wrong this has happened bad choice from valve even murders get another chance. there was no rules and it was a third party website that at the time had nothing to do with valve right? yes it was wrong from the players but i dont think killing there career because of pixel graphics on a game. a year ban is harsh enough. PROTEST GUYS??????
2016-01-05 23:51
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3 replies
na scene was never never at the fuckin TOP NEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2016-01-05 23:52
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1 reply
#409
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World Hayashin
:D
2016-01-06 00:13
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#825
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France Foryon2
LMFAO, u think valve gives a fuck about esport scene ? u dont know them well, they dont give a fuck about NA EU scene streghnt all they care about is MONEY and IMAGE, ibp fucked with the second so daddy GABEN not happy and slapped their asses.
2016-01-06 02:25
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#247
KRIMZ | 
Germany iN9N
sad move from valve, not even giving the ibp guys a 2nd chance
2016-01-05 23:52
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#248
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kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR
Now NA fangays can bring them flowers at dead's day. RIP NA EleGiggle
2016-01-05 23:52
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#249
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Japan diggers
TASTE THAT SWEET JUSTICE
2016-01-05 23:52
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#253
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Faroe Islands theejay
valve: 'maintain integrity' like theyre ever going to throw again rofl theyre just robbing the competitive scene of some really, REALLY skilled players just because they made one dumb mistake. who cares about skins, money and betting, the real cs fans want to see the best players play, unfortunately valve doesnt.
2016-01-05 23:52
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1 reply
#1032
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Canada chillcs
well said [*]
2016-01-06 07:16
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#255
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania razbatten
they got what they deserved
2016-01-05 23:52
0
rip
2016-01-05 23:52
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#259
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United Kingdom ishyk786
gj valve, ban fat boy hiko as well, he was in on it and knew about the threw. steel = jew dazed = jew hiko = jew expected
2016-01-05 23:53
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3 replies
#328
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Netherlands derpthulu
jew wannabes you mean? :D most of jews are jews because of judaism not ethnicity :D
2016-01-06 00:01
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2 replies
#827
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France Foryon2
actually its a bit wrong, to be a real jew u have to be born to life by a jew mother its by blood.
2016-01-06 02:27
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1 reply
#1438
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Netherlands derpthulu
thats just a myth, doesn't matter lmao. genetics come 50% from father and 50% from mother and BTW most of "jews" (wannabes) don't follow those rules, because their mom is jew ( by religion) thats it :D so her mother can be considered a jew. when you see russian jews , most of them look 100% slavic, how the fk can you consider them as jews? only religion doesn't make them jewish. :D msot of jews now are wannabes, or their GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT GREAT grandpa/grandma is jewish :D you notice that , they try to make some of the celebrities jewish? they say that some's grea great great someone was jew, but its nonsense :D
2016-01-06 16:14
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#260
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Greece theophilos13
fuck your skins volvo that had fucked up the game
2016-01-05 23:53
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#261
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rain | 
Norway LakSeey
*TRIGGERED*
2016-01-05 23:53
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#263
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Finland JoiKo
How much money they got out of it?
2016-01-05 23:53
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1 reply
#912
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Dosia | 
Sweden TarikEatsCereal
$10k+ if Im not wrong
2016-01-06 04:02
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#264
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El Salvador colokeN
rip![*] swag! :(
2016-01-05 23:53
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#265
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Tunisia wizzem
thats pretty sad, they just set the rule right now, there was no rule before, they should get unbanned and everyone who throws now should get perm banned :/
2016-01-05 23:53
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nice move from vovlo factory
2016-01-05 23:53
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#268
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North America Roberzitok
that's so FUCCWKING EMOOO MAN
2016-01-05 23:53
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#269
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Australia GO_Tor
I'm seeing a lot of "fuck valve" ... keep raging nerds, we all know you'll keep playing CS, and sucking that volvo cock MOAR SKINS (SLURP SLURP) .. get over it...
2016-01-05 23:53
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hope it was worth it
2016-01-05 23:53
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#272
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KRIMZ | 
Norway nafuhudes
rip in pieces NA
2016-01-05 23:53
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#273
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Norway lar$$
D E S E R V E D
2016-01-05 23:53
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[*]
2016-01-05 23:54
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#275
Faceit level 5 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
b1t | 
Canada PandabearCS
BOOOO
2016-01-05 23:54
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[*]
2016-01-05 23:54
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#280
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Europe acid_drinker
Good news! Finally kids will shut up :)
2016-01-05 23:54
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#281
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United States NAlegend
it took them this long for this generic of an explanation lmao GG.
2016-01-05 23:54
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1 reply
#297
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United States NetChodeGuy
It's been sitting on someone's screen for a year just waiting for them to hit ENTER
2016-01-05 23:56
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valve keeping the scene "factory new"... i like it
2016-01-05 23:55
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#286
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Portugal check3d
I'm happy for DaZeD and sad for swag
2016-01-05 23:55
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#288
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World ssovic
good news. n1
2016-01-05 23:55
0
lol rip
2016-01-05 23:55
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#291
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Norway t k z
SO FUCKING NICE!!!
2016-01-05 23:55
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#292
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Norway Lykd
why isnt some of the VP members banned then?
2016-01-05 23:55
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DESERVED FUCKIN MURICAN FAGS,FUKIN MATCH FIXERS, GO DIE ALL PLEASE
2016-01-05 23:55
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6 replies
you know europoors threw too, but you are too ignorant to know that
2016-01-05 23:59
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4 replies
seriously, anyone who cheats ,or match fixes, in any kind, should get banned and die painfully.
2016-01-06 00:01
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3 replies
#360
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World truestory_
Then 50% of people of the earth should die
2016-01-06 00:06
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2 replies
exactly
2016-01-06 00:06
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1 reply
#455
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World truestory_
And you shouldn't be born, same for me :(
2016-01-06 00:19
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#418
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World Hayashin
made me laugh so +1
2016-01-06 00:14
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#294
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Norway Flick
[*] swag and fck dazed and steel.
2016-01-05 23:56
0
RiP Cloud9*Swag
2016-01-05 23:56
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#298
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Finland TilestoNe
It would've been good for CS to unban them, but apparently Valve doesn't understand it. Then again, hard to expect good/right decisions from them after that revolver-patch.
2016-01-05 23:56
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#302
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Iran FaRsh1d
RIP
2016-01-05 23:57
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#303
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Thorin's old thoughts, now its gg youtube.com/watch?v=ZjnlTbSw_2s
2016-01-05 23:57
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#304
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Germany DerMitDemBlunt
finally those fucking unban ibp threads can stop ... fuckers never gonna get unbanned and thats the right move
2016-01-05 23:57
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#307
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United States YANGGANG2024
rip epsilon :( EVERYBODY IN THE CHAT SPAM KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2016-01-05 23:58
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2 replies
#313
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Latvia gr0wupz
epsilon got 1 year ban =D they're sorted in march
2016-01-05 23:58
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1 reply
#352
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France SeeebZ
2016-01-06 00:08
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E L E A G U E B O Y S
2016-01-05 23:58
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#311
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
Seriously having no rules on throwing in the past and now bans all players. Should start from now perma ban but unban those that were already banned for a year. Jesus Christ. as if Valve isn't already money-grabbing enough. Valve: Game's not doing to well in 2013. Let's start by adding skins. Hey new players are buying the game. Valve: "Let's make this game easier than 1.6 so the noobs can come in. People won't abandon the game now once they own skins for weapons." Valve: "Hey the skins things worked, let's force people with updates by forcing skins down their throats (cz and r8 revolver).
2016-01-05 23:58
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3 replies
#929
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Brazil jgger
cry
2016-01-06 04:57
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2 replies
#937
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United States gotrice541
Nah dude you just suck and prefer csgo being easier than 1.6 because it'll feed ur ego
2016-01-06 05:06
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1 reply
#939
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Brazil jgger
me: 50k hltv id you: 500k tell me who is the saucer here you fucktard
2016-01-06 05:08
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#314
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United States oflanagan187
stupid.
2016-01-05 23:59
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WOOO GET FUCKING REKT
2016-01-05 23:59
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#317
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Sri Lanka EZ_4_ENZE
please steel and dazed, talk about the teams who threw in 2015, you must be mad as me
2016-01-05 23:59
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Fuck you Valve.
2016-01-05 23:59
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#323
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
this is fucking pathetic! what about LDLC vs VP?? they did the exact same but in a different manner.
2016-01-06 00:03
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1 reply
#906
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United States DeAlphy
that was way different VP didnt through the game none of the teams threw the game
2016-01-06 03:52
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#324
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Sweden HltvReferee
Valve just went full fucking North Korea. Communism/dictatorship at its finest. Please everybody, stop playing this game, don't support these assholes. The way they handled this issue is beyond childish.
2016-01-06 00:01
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13 replies
#337
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United States gotrice541
I buy skins from OPskins now fuck the steam market.
2016-01-06 00:03
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11 replies
#343
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Sweden HltvReferee
They wait one year to say this? I hope CS dies from now on. The CS scene certainly will.
2016-01-06 00:04
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10 replies
#361
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Sweden Soltis
So CS dies because of some kids doing something they know was wrong and starts crying when they get punished for it? Welcome to the real world.
2016-01-06 00:06
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#831
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France Foryon2
u are retarded AND emo ayyy cancer combo
2016-01-06 02:30
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8 replies
#843
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United States gotrice541
They waited until a fucking NA team threw. Several EU teams threw which includes Epsilon and some Polish team(s) and some other ones. it's like what the fuck? Why suddenly implement this when one NA team threw, but when multiple EU team threw, now such rules were put into place. Doesn't make sense. Valve is very biased in their calls.
2016-01-06 02:42
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7 replies
#845
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France Foryon2
epsilon is perma too man..............
2016-01-06 02:43
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6 replies
#848
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United States gotrice541
I'm not talking about just Epsilon am I? Ignorant fucks.
2016-01-06 02:45
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5 replies
#853
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France Foryon2
are u fucking retarded or what you are comparing tier 30000 players which btw valve had no SOLID proof they match fixed , meanwhile IBP which was one of the best NA teams (which means more visibility so match fix will fuck with valve's image compared to tier 3000 poorlak players no gives a shit about) threw and valve had SOLID proof of it (thanks to a NA girl fucking your scene haha)
2016-01-06 02:49
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4 replies
#858
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United States gotrice541
No solid proof? Are you kidding me? Every skin for those matches were refunded because it was solid proof. Are you stupid? Doesn't matter if they were Tier 4 for all I care. If Valve is going to be consistent with every ruling, then they should've started way back before Epsilon even threw when other tier 3-4 teams threw.
2016-01-06 02:54
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3 replies
#866
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France Foryon2
valve is a billion dollar american company, they only care about image and money deal with it they might be retarded but they are still the boss when we talk about majors, IBP can still compete in little lans u know...
2016-01-06 02:59
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2 replies
#873
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
Yeah but 1 year is already enough. They should just unban these players and then implement the outright perma-bans from here on out. They've made their point with the 1 year bans now let them play at bigger tournaments.
2016-01-06 03:05
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1 reply
#1638
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draken | 
World Schmarko
im pretty sure thatd just open the door for future people to go >"oh but the americans only got 1 year?"
2016-01-07 16:01
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#930
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Brazil jgger
cry
2016-01-06 04:58
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RIP Brax
2016-01-06 00:01
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#332
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Hungary de_swaYYY
just.. please no ffs
2016-01-06 00:01
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#334
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gabs | 
Europe GandalfThePimp
betting is the cancer of csgo [*]
2016-01-06 00:02
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1 reply
+1 agreed
2016-01-06 00:13
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#338
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African Union Im_Adopted
xDDDDDDDDDDDDD RIP IBP.
2016-01-06 00:03
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#339
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Ireland eksero
sad day for cs to not unban them imo
2016-01-06 00:03
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1 reply
#365
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Sweden HltvReferee
Agreed.
2016-01-06 00:07
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#340
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artStar | 
Finland thePURGER
nice.
2016-01-06 00:04
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classic antiquated NA thinking delivered by valve with this punishment, took a page out of their criminal law
2016-01-06 00:04
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ty valve ban those shitheads
2016-01-06 00:05
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#346
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Sweden Soltis
Well done Valve. Strongly handled.
2016-01-06 00:05
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#347
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Faroe Islands fakeflagg0t
Time to uninstall. How2valvetards: >have no rules on match fixing >NO f^cking rules >ban them permanently, even tho there weren't any rules Law DOESN'T work backwards valvetards. I hope that Faceit / esea / cevo will unban them. F^ck worthless sh!t majors F^ck valvetards Going back to World of Warcraft. Blizzard is at least fair and listens to customers.
2016-01-06 00:05
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4 replies
#366
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Finland get_baited
swag is the only one who should get unbanned. dazed is a cunt and steel is toxic fag.
2016-01-06 00:07
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2 replies
#393
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France SeeebZ
It's not a personnal thing, all the guys who agreed on the throw deserve a punishment. (I'm not saying a perma ban though)
2016-01-06 00:10
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1 reply
#464
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Faroe Islands fakeflagg0t
If they should be unbanned, then all of them. Dazed is a cunt, but whatever seriously. Steel is toxic but when you get used to it (for example you watch him a lot) then you'd see that it's rather funny. I'm sad for Swag too :( Fuck valve
2016-01-06 00:20
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#931
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Brazil jgger
cry
2016-01-06 04:59
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Rip Swag
2016-01-06 00:05
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#354
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South Africa HackeM123
sigh.
2016-01-06 00:06
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#359
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Germany Fex35
Every update so far has been fucking with the integrity of top-flight competition. Just a dumb move by Volvo.
2016-01-06 00:06
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#363
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Finland RaptoRStillAlive
GG RIP THE HOPE OF NA rip steel rip swag rip dazed rip NA
2016-01-06 00:06
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#369
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United Kingdom ishyk786
How can you ban them without rules or laws first being clear? cyka blyat valve, when did they care about cs anyway
2016-01-06 00:07
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7 replies
#396
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Norway KimG
They care about cs when they ban retards who are fixing matches. I really applaud valve for doing this, get these toxic cunts out of the scene.
2016-01-06 00:10
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6 replies
#408
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Denmark Fr0nda
They perma bann them after 1 year w8ting. Valve is a big joke
2016-01-06 00:13
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1 reply
ofc they are
2016-01-06 00:22
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don't bet.
2016-01-06 00:14
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#434
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United States gotrice541
Yeah when multiple EU teams threw (I don't give two fucks what tier they were because as long as they're being broadcast on HLTV and listed on HLTV, that means they are on a level that's pretty important in CSGO), valve doesn't do jack shit. One NA team throws, all hell breaks loose.
2016-01-06 00:16
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2 replies
#458
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World Hayashin
they have no proof man. i see these comments so often and you people need to get this: if dborn ex girlfriend wouldnt have shown the screenshots to valve and put pressure on them with the help of richard lewis, this would never have happened. he and other people stated that themselves
2016-01-06 00:19
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1 reply
#844
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United States gotrice541
The thing is there WERE proof of those other EU teams throwing. I betteed on those matches. I should know.
2016-01-06 02:43
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#370
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Poland nvster
hahah
2016-01-06 00:07
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#372
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United States SwantanamoJ
2016-01-06 00:08
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#376
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Immawolf
wohooo!! expected! :D
2016-01-06 00:08
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#378
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United States gotrice541
Really Valve.....Really......EU teams throw in the past, no "huge ass ban hammer slammed down" but when one NA team does it, it's a huge fucking story and the ban hammer is thrown.
2016-01-06 00:09
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1 reply
#834
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France Foryon2
retard blame dborne girlfriend for showing proof not valve having to deal with kids throwing for skins
2016-01-06 02:32
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#379
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Sweden HltvReferee
So Skadoodle gets away because he was in on the match fix but didn't ACCEPT THE SKINS. That's some major BS. This whole thing is such a joke. You can't ban people for life without having rules in place. It's like the president ordering people to be jailed for life because they hacked someone's computer back when computers came out before people barely even knew it was possible to hack somebody. "Hello I am in charge and I will give these people lifetime sentences because hacking destroys the integrity of future computer usage." Doing things as a dictator (without listening to the scene/people) to instill fear in others is like the worst thing they could've done. But it's exactly what they did.
2016-01-06 00:12
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2 replies
#391
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Norway KimG
Yes they can, its their events. They can do whatever the fuck they want. Valve could literally turn off all their servers tomorrow if they wanted to.. iBP got what they deserved.
2016-01-06 00:10
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#932
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Brazil jgger
cry more fucktard
2016-01-06 05:00
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:/
2016-01-06 00:09
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#381
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Norway KimG
Good! I was hoping these toxic idiots would stay banned.. hopefully faceit will ban them from FPL as well, they got nothing to do there.
2016-01-06 00:09
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#382
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Europe lanceV
was obvious, now i dont have to write it down everytime i see an unban ibp thread. thanks valve.
2016-01-06 00:09
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finally a good move from valve
2016-01-06 00:09
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#388
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Serbia FrictioN
What did you guys expect?When has valve made some good decisions?
2016-01-06 00:09
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#389
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United States The_Strang3r
Valve tournaments are tier 2 anyways. Who cares about being banned from majors when you can play for 2mil on cable TV?
2016-01-06 00:09
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6 replies
lol +1 this guy knows whats up
2016-01-06 00:11
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Majors tier 2 cause SHIT NA teams can't do shit. Nice logic.
2016-01-06 00:12
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3 replies
#427
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France SeeebZ
I think he was mainly talking about the prizepool (that didn't improve since the first major like fucking 7 majors ago) Also the fact that they didn't change their ridiculous groupstage (or yeah they added a BO3 nice and also the retarded redraw system gj)
2016-01-06 00:18
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#428
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United States The_Strang3r
$2,000,000 Turner league = tier 1 $250k majors = tier 2 You must be new.
2016-01-06 00:15
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1 reply
250k in prize 4mln from stickers
2016-01-06 00:24
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#411
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France SeeebZ
We have to wait until every league publish a statement about this. Maybe they'll follow Valve like the first time players got banned.
2016-01-06 00:13
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#395
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Sweden svempa
[*]
2016-01-06 00:10
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#397
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Europe westo
good
2016-01-06 00:11
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I love you VOLVO! FUCK YOU MURICAS.
2016-01-06 00:11
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#401
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
rip
2016-01-06 00:11
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#406
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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World skruxie
GG
2016-01-06 00:12
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#407
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Bulgaria mzhdrak
lmaoooooooooooooooo
2016-01-06 00:12
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#410
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Portugal HelloBro
FUCK YOU VOLVO . FUCK YOU GABEN . csgolounge is not a valve website so why valve banned ibp due to betting on it? fuck you valve , I hope ibp players will find a better game and make it grow so this piece of shit game can die . I'm done , and valve where is VP ban? ohh okey they are gaben friends
2016-01-06 00:13
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9 replies
#465
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Sweden mickeeyo
They are real money betting esports sides. There goes much more money, try to understand this fact also.
2016-01-06 00:20
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3 replies
#474
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Portugal HelloBro
But there was zerorules against betting on csgolounge and throws .
2016-01-06 00:21
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2 replies
#482
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden mickeeyo
Lol so its all right for you?
2016-01-06 00:22
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1 reply
#1506
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Portugal HelloBro
A top team don't deserve to be banned FOREVER because of valve's incompetence . U guys can't understand shit , my gosh , grow up , if there is now laws against something , you can do it , simple .
2016-01-06 18:39
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#473
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Turkey lDexx
dont be mad.fanboi haha
2016-01-06 00:21
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#934
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Brazil jgger
cry more pescador
2016-01-06 05:01
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1 reply
#1508
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Portugal HelloBro
how much?
2016-01-06 18:45
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#1145
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Europe Esivo
Match fixing is a literal crime. Grow up first, learn how society works or get your head out of your ass.
2016-01-06 09:57
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1 reply
#1507
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Portugal HelloBro
yeah it's a crime , but why the fuck would they get permanent ban? So match fixing is worst than murdering?
2016-01-06 18:41
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yet cheaters are still playing
2016-01-06 00:13
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Rip all the ibuypower sponsors: Http://csgosetup.on-winning.com Or doesn't it affect other teams?
2016-01-06 00:13
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2 replies
#433
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Syria pellesnabel
keylogger lost my virginity
2016-01-06 00:16
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1 reply
No?
2016-01-06 00:34
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#416
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Greenland 1stWorldBOY
This is redicouls, yea they scammed other people... But people doing mistakes in life, and they need 2nd chance, no? Its fucking game lol, yeah i dont understand but. nvm
2016-01-06 00:14
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#685
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Dominican Republic Reloadingskillz
I don't think they deserve a 2nd chance since they knew they were going to get banned by throwing.It's not a mistake if they knew the consequences.Half of them were young adults (except swag) so they should of made the right decision but they didn't, sucks for them but they deserved it.
2016-01-06 01:17
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#706
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Greenland 1stWorldBOY
I dont think they actually thought they will get life ban. Maybe a 1 year, but pernament im not sure.
2016-01-06 01:23
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#710
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Dominican Republic Reloadingskillz
Even if they thought they were only going to get banned for 1 year they still shouldn't have done it.They should be smart enough to know it.
2016-01-06 01:24
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#714
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Greenland 1stWorldBOY
Yeah, you're right. But somehow i think they deserved one chance. Just because the Na scene would be more strong with ex-iBP
2016-01-06 01:25
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#715
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Dominican Republic Reloadingskillz
I agree with you there.One more chance would be nice.Thanks for having a nice discussion with me <3
2016-01-06 01:26
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#723
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Greenland 1stWorldBOY
Not problem bro, why not to have nice dicsussion? :D We want to share our opinions, not need to be rude or something else. And RiP iBP :) <3
2016-01-06 01:28
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#421
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shaGuar | 
Brazil Akaerri
gg MURICAS 125kg
2016-01-06 00:14
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#422
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Finland f0pZ
Ahahaha fucking idiots, how you feel now when ur promising careers are over? facepalm.jpg
2016-01-06 00:14
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what a bullshit. they are just scape goats for the press to pretend Valves shit lans are not full of cheaters and match fixers. Also no one casres. There are much more money in other bigger leauges and majors from ESL are much better despite lack of anti cheat security as well. valse should ban all players so only 1.6 legends would stay or just allow cheating and match fixing officially and stop this bad joke called "valve care about esport"
2016-01-06 00:15
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Imagine how much better this game would be - skins. Just imagine.
2016-01-06 00:15
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#442
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Finland mairou
Imagine what this game would be without skins. Just imagine
2016-01-06 00:17
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#687
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Dominican Republic Reloadingskillz
LOL
2016-01-06 01:18
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#431
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France @Holy_CSGO
It make me sad for those guys because even pedophile get a second chance even if they don't deserve for it,they threw a match for a couple of thousand dollars and now they won't be able to compete again that is really sad I think valve didn't made the right choice here but oh well...
2016-01-06 00:16
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#444
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Sweden olof-
in france maybe, pssshht
2016-01-06 00:17
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#454
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France @Holy_CSGO
well in some countries people who commited horible crimes get liberated at some point that's what make me sad about this those guy deserve for a second chance.
2016-01-06 00:18
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#665
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France Energy~
look at calciopoli and the case with karabatic, even these guys didn't have such heavy sanctions
2016-01-06 01:11
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#435
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
iBP here and there. epsilon did this, epsilon did that. what about VP vs LDLC? HELLO?!
2016-01-06 00:16
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5 replies
#527
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Switzerland Z0mb13
^^
2016-01-06 00:31
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#583
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
I read your original reply but didn't comment on it. now I revisited the news to read through the comments and saw you edited your reply. why is that?
2016-01-06 00:46
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#595
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Switzerland Z0mb13
I read your post and reply it. Then I [...] and I saw you previous one. why is that?
2016-01-06 00:48
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#604
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
haha okay
2016-01-06 00:52
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1 reply
#632
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Switzerland Z0mb13
2016-01-06 00:58
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#437
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Sweden olof-
thank you valve, deserved :)
2016-01-06 00:16
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#441
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
Valve (c) "A Follow Up to Integrity and Fair Play 5 Jan 2016 - Professional Counter-Strike is very important to us and to our community. The audience’s trust in the integrity of the sport has allowed it to grow to the point where it entertains millions of fans. To ensure that the highest level of competition continues to entertain, that integrity can never be called into question. Back in January and early February 2015 we took action after we discovered that a small number of professional CS:GO players were engaged in match-fixing. Our decision was to ban these players indefinitely from involvement in Valve-sponsored events. To clarify, the bans for these players are permanent, and players proven to have taken part in match-fixing will be permanently banned. As the scene grows, it’s an unfortunate reality that some individuals will seek opportunities to take advantage of their fans. We will continue to take whatever action we think is necessary to protect the entertainment value created by professional Counter-Strike, including, on occasion, terminating our relationship with individuals who have demonstrated a willingness to exploit their fans’ faith in the integrity of the sport. While bans can be disruptive and painful to some members of the community, they are sometimes necessary. We sincerely hope that we won’t have to issue more in the future."
2016-01-06 00:17
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#469
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France SeeebZ
2016-01-06 00:21
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#500
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
I dont open other people's links unfortunately, sorry if i missed something important :( youtube.com/watch?v=U_TXKqxsNBw
2016-01-06 00:25
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2 replies
#508
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France SeeebZ
Basically Hitler asking WTF IS THIS SHIT ? nothing important just me being really mad at Volovo right now xD
2016-01-06 00:27
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#512
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
:(
2016-01-06 00:27
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I see where Valve is coming from - however, they literally had zero rules against match fixing in the first place. Going along with everyone mmaking mistakes, they probably eternally ruined the NA scene(for a long time).
2016-01-06 00:17
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#449
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Portugal HelloBro
THIS .
2016-01-06 00:17
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#450
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Sweden olof-
"making mistakes" they knew full-well what they were doing bitch
2016-01-06 00:18
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11 replies
Why so mad? Like I said, Valve had not set rules against it in place - it is VALVE'S FAULT.
2016-01-06 00:24
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#551
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Sweden olof-
i'm not mad, im irritated at the people thinking it's not deserved. if valve would set a time-limited ban on the ibp-players it COULD in theory be worth throwing a game, if the ban would only mean they would be out of competition for a year.
2016-01-06 00:35
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How were iBP supposed to know they were going to be banned with zero rules in place?
2016-01-06 01:12
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#704
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Sweden olof-
they knew what they were doing was wrong, if they didn't consider the consequences that's on them, they have no one to blame but themselves. they deserve to be permanently banned for fucking with people's money. stay salty
2016-01-06 01:23
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You're the one swearing - I'm not the salty one here. Consequences? There were no defined consequences. Idiot.
2016-01-06 01:51
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#779
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Sweden olof-
so you don't expect consequences after doing something MORALLY wrong? ok then
2016-01-06 01:58
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Thanks for putting words into my mouth - it makes no sense that, even whilst technically legal, the iBP players were banned for "morals" - permanently. If Valve had any morals themselves, they would make it a temp ban.
2016-01-06 02:03
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#798
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Sweden olof-
lmao, what a fanboy
2016-01-06 02:07
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Fanboism is not equal to logic. Do they teach over there in Sweden?
2016-01-07 03:42
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#1757
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United States WilbuRsson
Yo, you're the dude who think this is the be all end all of match fixing, you degenerate. You know what it would take for them to be the match fixing kingpins of the next decade? A fucking telephone. And who's the fanfag you fanfag, most of us hate these dudes, but what right is right. What is taking a year to decide your posture with no mediation?
2016-01-16 06:01
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#676
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Dominican Republic Reloadingskillz
I mean ex-IBP players should still know that throwing a game for skins is still going to get them banned regardless.Half of them were young adults (except swag) so they should of made the right decision but they didn't, sucks for them but they deserved it.
2016-01-06 01:20
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#729
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Brazil hugoooo
It's so obvious that we don't need a rule. It's a basic fundamental of EVERY sport or competition, I doubt most of the leagues in any category of sport have a rule saying that match fixing is not allowed. Are they fucking 8 years old? No, they are grown men, they know it was wrong and prohibited.
2016-01-06 01:30
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Wrong, but not legally defined.
2016-01-06 01:51
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#447
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Netherlands stinus
Ok now fix cheating..
2016-01-06 00:17
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#452
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norcha | 
Netherlands norchaa
hahahahaha this is just utterly moronic
2016-01-06 00:18
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Spam f to pay respects
2016-01-06 00:18
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#456
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Reunion player69_
good
2016-01-06 00:19
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#457
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World vidalc
I just don't understand WHY skadoodle is playing till today.. How he proved that he wasnt in this shit? This is a fucking joke. They deserved this. ALL OF THEM
2016-01-06 00:19
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#462
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World truestory_
ScreaM^too
2016-01-06 00:19
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#499
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World KennyOmega
They checked everybody's accounts and Skadoodle didn't bet. It's the same situation as ScreaM's.
2016-01-06 00:25
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#459
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Brazil AL1en
nice
2016-01-06 00:19
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#461
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United States gotrice541
This whole issue is like fucking Obama and the Osama Bin Laden issue. Obama doing a shitty job but then all of a sudden, under his administration, they fucking got Osama Bin Laden even when I can recall recent CNN interviews during that time that HAD Osama Bin Laden talking to CNN. Same goes here, Valve is doing a shitty job for awhile now and all of a sudden, "Look, we don't tolerate these kinds of behaviors." MULTIPLE EU TEAMS THREW IN THE PAST FOR FUCKS SAKE. NO SUCH STATEMENTS THIS BIG WAS EVER ANNOUNCED. ONE NA THROWS, VALVE SUDDENLY CAN'T TOLERATE IT ANYMORE?
2016-01-06 00:19
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#485
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Sweden HltvReferee
It's ridiculous...
2016-01-06 00:23
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#1758
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United States WilbuRsson
You better pick up your meds before the next president is sworn in young rice.
2016-01-16 06:09
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2 replies
#1761
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United States gotrice541
I better buy and pick up my guns before that shit happens.
2016-01-16 09:47
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1 reply
#1762
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United States WilbuRsson
You? Maybe.
2016-01-16 10:18
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#467
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Other plath - <3 wayLander
haha i told dazed on stream that valve was never going to unban him and he got mad. told u bro.
2016-01-06 00:20
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#468
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Netherlands CcARTii
skadoodle literally luckiest motherfucker alive
2016-01-06 00:20
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good decision
2016-01-06 00:21
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#472
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Portugal STRONJS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAA REKT NA
2016-01-06 00:21
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#475
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Poland Ventori
expected from Murica, they are so bad and must cheat
2016-01-06 00:21
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#476
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United Kingdom pl0p01
wp!
2016-01-06 00:21
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#481
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Sweden Iswayodds
throwed the match, now u pay for it with full force. Nothing to regret. Skadoodle should be banned aswell.
2016-01-06 00:22
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#483
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Switzerland banzB1CEPS
kinda harsh perma ban for match fixing and not even ban for a lot of cheaters. GJ valve
2016-01-06 00:22
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#510
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Sweden HltvReferee
On top of all the other match fixers who got away and cheaters who walk...Richard Lewis gets to strangle people and still work on Valve sponsored events. That's not really destroying the integrity of the sport according to Valve. But this ONE match absolutely did, somehow. It must be personal from Valve.
2016-01-06 00:27
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#842
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Switzerland banzB1CEPS
yes, either personal or some valve important guy happen to lose a lost of skins in their thrown matches. lol
2016-01-06 02:39
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#486
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Sweden thof
RIP
2016-01-06 00:23
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#487
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Finland siNppa
why would you think it would have been a good call to unban them? even though perm ban sounds harsh, it's the right call because this surely should give some second thoughts to everyone who's planning on throwing. it's just not worth it. same with cheaters, ban 4 lyfe and everybody gets the message, there WILL be consequences.
2016-01-06 00:23
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#488
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cyx | 
World omgwtfstfu
gooooooooooooooooooooooood!
2016-01-06 00:23
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#490
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Switzerland Z0mb13
cheetah for one day, cheetah EVERYDAY
2016-01-06 00:23
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#492
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Germany reinije
where is the permanently bann for Virtus.pro gj valve........
2016-01-06 00:24
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#494
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Brazil baleia
this makes no sense, valve should either ban ska or unban everybody if you rob a bank but end up with no money from the robbery because your fellow robbers kept all the money to themselves, you and your friends still go to jail let say hypothetically that C9 throw a game and everybody get skins but ska, should ska not be banned in this situation too??
2016-01-06 00:24
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murican braindeads in murica if u steal less then your friend its difficult and now niggrous can say what ever they can and if white person say something they are racist... soo you have answer murica is fck up who blame russia but russia and putin are good person who dont give a shit obama/murica can suck his dick cause if he attack russian whole asia gonna join russian site
2016-01-06 00:27
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#518
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Sweden HltvReferee
It's dictatorship m8, it's how it works. The community has no say in the matter at all.
2016-01-06 00:28
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#935
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Brazil jgger
chola
2016-01-06 05:02
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Does it really matter at this point? If Valve had the highest paying tournament with the most exposure, maybe. But now that E-League is on its way to debuting with a massive prize pool, do the bans have any real weight? Sure you would have the title of winning a major, but titles don't pay bills, salaries, or provide a profit quite like a $1.3m tourney, nor provide as much exposure as a 30-week long televised tournament.
2016-01-06 00:24
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#498
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Latvia Ke]R[4u
took them only 1 year to make decision, gj volvo
2016-01-06 00:24
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#504
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World ducksauceee
skadoodle very lucky, bet on him from now on KappaPride
2016-01-06 00:26
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#507
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Poland Kuz.
Now sit down in your office valve, and make something to deal with hackers in mm, this shit is unplayable. Wonder guys if you can play matchmaking and be 100% sure that no one is cheating. Game would be less rage-sided and more friendly and comfortable. This is one of my dreams about perfect csgo...
2016-01-06 00:26
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#514
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Luxembourg I_dont_like_ppl
sad for the players, but good decision by valve, I highly doubt anybody will now even slightly think about throwing a match
2016-01-06 00:27
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#516
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World pridek
fucking valve.
2016-01-06 00:27
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#517
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New Zealand black0ut
what a fucking joke its been like 1.5 years atleast we all know they dont cheat yes they made a mistake but fuck me why do we want to keep some of the best american talents out of the game they all put a shit load time into the game and love it they dont cheat nor would they ever match fix again.. grow a pair valve gaben ya fat fuck
2016-01-06 00:27
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its a good move, but im sorry for swag, even tho i think NA scene is a joke.
2016-01-06 00:28
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#520
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United Kingdom botskii
hahah
2016-01-06 00:28
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#521
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Slovenia TinytheBest1
cancer=valve=jinx=valve
2016-01-06 00:29
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Swags face in that picture seems like he already knew this shit was gonna happen at the time. lelkek //
2016-01-06 00:29
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#524
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Finland fr0zeNid
finally valve did something good
2016-01-06 00:29
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#525
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RE1EASE | 
Russia d3f /A/
its VALVE decision, but i rly dont get how the heck did Ska stay unpunished, same goes for G5
2016-01-06 00:29
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#526
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Estonia UFRAG.ee/ampsu
Well. If the moment when they committed the crime, had no law regulating that, it isnt violation. Why hand over a permanent ban? Basics of law but I think that doesnt apply to internet. You cant charge nobody for the incident that happened before applying the law. This is just bullsh.
2016-01-06 00:29
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#761
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Sweden Kasidro
ex post facto law, means "from after the action" or "after the facts". A legal thing used in many civilized countries in the west so stop with the "there was no rule about it". We do the same in real life. Even if it is not a very liked thing it does happen.
2016-01-06 01:52
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#1124
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Estonia UFRAG.ee/ampsu
I can assure that ex post facto is prohibited in the US because of constitution.
2016-01-06 09:33
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#1292
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Sweden Kasidro
It is in most countries but still in use especially when it comes to tax evasion.
2016-01-06 12:50
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#528
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World tromm
hard but right decision. but remember they only banned some scapegoats.. just like with the vacening.. ban some players and the rest gets a yellowcard to not destroy the integry of the scene and risking losing money. pro will still throw matches... they bet on realmoney sites(friends do it for them) and then just buy skins they want or take the money for a good shopping tour. not traceable... only could be exposed by the guys doing the betting.. and even then it will be hard for them to prove anything.(when your smart enough as a proplayer to leave no evedince behind)
2016-01-06 00:30
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#529
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Poland WHIPLASHER
PITER XD
2016-01-06 00:30
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#530
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Finland Al_Aziz
rekt
2016-01-06 00:31
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#531
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United States CH!NO xL
rip
2016-01-06 00:31
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#532
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forsaken | 
Europe DontAtMe
don't forget VP valve
2016-01-06 00:31
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if volvo prove that they actly throw..
2016-01-06 00:43
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6 replies
#589
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forsaken | 
Europe DontAtMe
2016-01-06 00:47
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#607
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forsaken | 
Europe DontAtMe
it's funny because all teams are saying something about this ban but not a single VP player talked about it ahah they know it's truth Already seen Nip, fnatic, navi, titan, nv players talking about it on facebook,twitter, stream etc, all vp are silent
2016-01-06 00:52
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well.. in brazil we have a ditact like this ''boca fechada não entra mosquito'' or in english ''closed mouth enter no mosquitos'' i think, which means, keep your mouth closed and no troubles come to you..
2016-01-06 00:58
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#771
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forsaken | 
Europe DontAtMe
I know hehe, im actually portuguese so I know it, japanese flag is just for fun
2016-01-06 01:53
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lmao, its ok, so you understand..
2016-01-06 01:53
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#909
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United States DeAlphy
they are not silent lol if u actually watch their streams Taz and Pasha talked about it
2016-01-06 03:55
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#533
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Sweden mickeeyo
Deserved. Throwing games, getting profits its BAD behavior. There were no rules written because there were no reason to do it, they were pionieers in this shit and they deserving to be banned forever. Now people won't throw games in case of getting life time bans. Good job Gaben. I gonna buy some skins first time in my life now to support Valve CO. :)
2016-01-06 00:31
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#592
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Portugal ALCHEMISTGOD
you are so dumb ahaha so what do you think about virtus pro betting on a match that they won and its already finished to get profit??? permanent ban as well???
2016-01-06 00:48
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#601
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Sweden mickeeyo
Matchfixing =/= exploiting CSGL system. They also warned people on their social medias not to bet on them so?
2016-01-06 00:50
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1 reply
#1448
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World mahadeva
u answered to urself bro
2016-01-06 16:30
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rip swag rip dazed rip steel
2016-01-06 00:32
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#537
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Germany RoscHii
bullfuckingshit
2016-01-06 00:32
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#538
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Sweden STRiDER!
Good.
2016-01-06 00:32
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unban...
2016-01-06 00:33
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#540
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United States Reclamation
2016-01-06 00:33
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If ibp players care about their professional gaming careers they should file a lawsuit on the basis of no punishment existing for match-fixing at the time of their ban.
2016-01-06 00:34
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#717
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Brazil hugoooo
LMAO There need to be a rule saying that such thing is prohibited?
2016-01-06 01:26
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6 replies
This isn't brazil sorry. We don't make shit up as we go along.
2016-01-06 03:22
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5 replies
#1097
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Brazil hugoooo
Maybe that's the reason american kids like to take a gun to the scool and shoot people? It just happens because there is no rule right!? Hey, let's create a rule to prohibit that! Afterall, that's how 'murica works... You guys need a fucking rule to say some basic shit that everybody knows that is wrong.
2016-01-06 08:52
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You might be the dumbest 25 year old on the planet. Are you actually implying that there's a single U.S. State or civilized Country for that matter which doesn't have gun laws in place? Wait how is this even related to ibp or my previous comment direct to you? rofl holy shit hltv is full of the most uneducated pieces of shit on the planet
2016-01-06 09:56
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#1208
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Brazil hugoooo
Calm your tits, try to speak like a normal person, stop bitching. It's related because you think people actually need rules to be punished for having the most obvious, absolutely wrong, behaviour. It was implicit.
2016-01-06 11:11
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We're writing not speaking. Your comments are painstakingly hilarious. Don't ever compare gun laws which have been in place since the inception of this country & school shootings to rules pertaining to match-fixing for digital items again dip-shit. The purpose of law is to preserve freedom and moral agency. It's just as morally wrong to punish someone [indefinitely] without rules being put in place which forbid the behavior and specify the penalties.
2016-01-06 16:31
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Nobody said they didn't know it was wrong you fucking vine swinging jungletard. It was the way it was handled banning them a year indefinitely and them permabanning them a year after. It was handled badly and cheaters(who also impact match outcomes people gamble on) face far less punishment. Most of you brazilian faggots are just glad because you don't want to see LG get their asses kicked by IBP.
2016-01-06 14:56
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#936
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Brazil jgger
cry more freedom kid
2016-01-06 05:04
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cry more irrelavent stereotypes faggot. go post on 4chan
2016-01-06 09:55
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#542
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Sweden NyZtan0
We all know this was Steel/Dazed idea to do something like this, too bad they dragged Brax down with them.
2016-01-06 00:33
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#544
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Sweden wreck6
burn in hell
2016-01-06 00:33
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#548
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Finland merkkis
[*] RiP
2016-01-06 00:34
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#549
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Poland enterq18
even if this will not be permaban this nothin will change to NA scene
2016-01-06 00:35
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#550
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Canada boulAAYYY
stupid decision.
2016-01-06 00:35
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#552
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
olofmeister agrees with permanent ban oddshot.tv/shot/olofmeister-201601052328..
2016-01-06 00:35
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nobody is saying it was a good thing to do, but a permanent ban being handed down after keeping them waiting for their sentence after a year is fucking retarded and the only people that thing it is a good thing are people that have something personal against the players themselves or NA in general. Olof didn't say he agreed with a permanent ban in this clip, but if he did, it would be because less competition means he gets to win majors more easily which is good for him, bad for fans. Nobody wants to know who is going to win every fucking major before it even starts, it's boring and the more competitive a scene, the better for the fans. 12 yr olds don't understand this concept.
2016-01-06 14:52
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#1583
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paz | 
North America Mereko
he said it shouldnt be permanent just now on stream, but he said they should be banned for 1 more year. and added everyone can have a second chance.
2016-01-07 02:56
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#1584
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
id be fine with that, a lot of stremers now say that valve should've banned them for life just like that, they definately had to ban them temporarily and then make a rule saying that going forward the ban for match fixing will be a lifetime ban... but they shouldnt just come up with a lifetime ban rule on the spot where tehy had no ruels at all...
2016-01-07 03:37
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#553
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shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo
just stupid to keep them perma banned without clear rules in place.
2016-01-06 00:35
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#554
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coldzera | 
Brazil saotequi
hhaahha rip
2016-01-06 00:35
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#556
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United Kingdom cabdriver
Yay now ban all muslims out of Europe and we're good to go
2016-01-06 00:35
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2 replies
#571
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Algeria AlanWalker
hello alfie
2016-01-06 00:41
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#574
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Sweden mickeeyo
Muslims will ban Englados soon in UK :V
2016-01-06 00:42
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#557
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Europe DeusCUTE
Valve kill yourselves
2016-01-06 00:36
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#558
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Sweden Iswayodds
They might take our lives, but they will never take our freeeeedooom!! youtu.be/T1XwDd9Bwdg?t=103
2016-01-06 00:36
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#559
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BDSM | 
United States Alinity
rip the NA dream [*]
2016-01-06 00:36
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Finally VALVE! good job !
2016-01-06 00:37
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#561
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GuardiaN | 
Other Darge
People will be mad, but it's the right thing to do. Besides, we all knew this will happen.
2016-01-06 00:37
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ex-Epsilon players will get perm ban aswell so rip [*]
2016-01-06 00:38
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#564
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France Hox4u
OMFG fuck you valve twats
2016-01-06 00:38
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#567
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Lithuania awfuL1337
nice, swag now go work in McDonalds
2016-01-06 00:40
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3 replies
#628
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Sweden BBW
tbh he will still work in esports and get twice the pay you get by hiring toilet cleaners aka "toilet pimp"
2016-01-06 00:56
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2 replies
#781
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Lithuania awfuL1337
your logic is too stronk, how you can say about "twice" if you dont know how much $ i have for a month xD you dumb idiot :)
2016-01-06 01:58
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1 reply
#1291
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Sweden BBW
im correct then
2016-01-06 12:44
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#568
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Europe kpsz
rip blyat
2016-01-06 00:41
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nice. gj valve
2016-01-06 00:41
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#570
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United States jtaylor33
rip NA forever. NICE ONE DAZED
2016-01-06 00:41
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#573
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United States 3mtn
noooooooooo EDIT: also good job waiting a year to clarify lmao
2016-01-06 00:47
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#578
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Sweden Iswayodds
Im pretty sure valve would unban them if pro teams would sign a petition for that and get atleast 50% votes. But wont happen.
2016-01-06 00:43
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#580
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Canada KawaiiKai
So rip ScreaM?
2016-01-06 00:44
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#585
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Poland MaYy
it is good decision they deserved it is like cheating
2016-01-06 00:46
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#587
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Poland miiR
Swag how old is he? 16/17 and was one of The best player in NA (at age 16!!), and he threw it all away for some skins, well played.
2016-01-06 00:47
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#588
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Liechtenstein Swagyolo321
[*] NA
2016-01-06 00:47
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#591
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Poland nvster
rip dazed top1 na
2016-01-06 00:47
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Lets give them some candles rip [*]
2016-01-06 00:48
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#596
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Turkey Nerd_With_No_Life
GOOD NOBODY SADLY FOR THAT THEY ARE DESERVED IT
2016-01-06 00:48
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1 reply
Englando?
2016-01-06 09:34
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#597
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Sweden ald;
Fatality... good job !
2016-01-06 00:49
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#600
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World Loldmgs
2016-01-06 00:49
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#602
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United States Cyberman321
These players should sue Valve. It would be one thing if there were rules in place before hand, but to permanently ban them retroactively for fixing a match in a league that had nothing to do with Valve tournaments is just wrong.
2016-01-06 00:51
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#635
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United Kingdom QuantumR4ge
No they cant, its there tournament and can chose who to let in and can for what ever reason ban people, they are under no legal obligation to let them in
2016-01-06 00:59
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#664
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Ksharp | 
United States r3gulator
Thats not the arguement. Valve had no authority to ban for match fixing. Whether it was there tournaments or not. Were not talking about hacking... which is a written and bannable. There were no rules in place stating the affects of match fixing. So unless Valve has a god clause. And even if they did, it would be very easy to argue ignorance in a lengthy user agreement. The reason for that is there have already been several high profile cases involving the user agreement. In which the defendant (companies) lost. And it only takes one precedent to win a case. The consumer or user has rights.
2016-01-06 01:11
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#1056
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Other 121212123
The consumer or user has rights in terms of the product, which they are allowed to use. Events have nothing to do with rights, if Valve wants to exclude people from a tournament with or without reason they have the right to do so. The only people who can fight for these players unban is most likely MTG who could force all the event hosters they currently own to let the banned players compete if they qualify. Or the event hosters themselves going against Valve.
2016-01-06 07:54
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"Events have nothing to do with rights, if Valve wants to exclude people from a tournament with or without reason they have the right to do so." This is not true. They cannot exclude anyone they want under any condition. They're a business which operates under U.S. law. Hopefully these players unleash their lawyers on them.
2016-01-06 16:45
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#1454
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United Kingdom QuantumR4ge
Please 'Murica tell me where they have Rights in this case? you do not have a "right" to attend an event, you have no more right to that then to attend a friends party, because they are your friend
2016-01-06 16:40
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4 replies
Do your own legal research.
2016-01-06 16:46
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3 replies
#1475
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United Kingdom QuantumR4ge
They have not been refused access to the Product they paid for, this is not a breach of rights
2016-01-06 17:03
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This is honestly my last post on hltv because people are so fucking stupid. What does maintaining the ability to play CS:GO have to do with being unlawfully indefinitely banned by Valve? Seriously what the fuck is wrong with people on here? I'm done.
2016-01-06 18:18
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#1502
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United Kingdom QuantumR4ge
I was asking why you thought it was unlawful since as far as i can see, it does not break any sort of consumer law or anything related, How about stay less salty and dont call people stupid?
2016-01-06 18:30
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#650
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Ksharp | 
United States r3gulator
I actually agree. They are able to prove lost wages. And with no rule in place prior to their match fixing. Valve doesnt have a leg to stand on. But I also have never read the EULA. There could very well be a clause in it giving them 100% authority in the matter. Able to ban accounts at will. But even then, the players could easily argue they had no idea what they were signing(surprisingly, there are several precedents on this matter). Morals play no part in a trial. It doesnt matter if they should or should not have thrown.
2016-01-06 01:04
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#962
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United States Cyberman321
It wasn't against the EULA, they all still have their steam accounts.
2016-01-06 05:36
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#1265
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Europe t.o.p
That's actually somewhat a good point
2016-01-06 12:17
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#603
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Finland marcelos
I remember the Italian football scandal in 2006 when a few Italian teams were accused and punished for match-fixing having been in contact with match officials. The police were involved and there were clear rules in Italy/what ever the Italian football association is called there The teams were punished and deducted a number of points for the new season, and Juventus was eventually relegated from Serie A to Serie B and additionally deducted 30 points. In this case we are talking about a shit ton of money Juventus have earned from winning Serie A and thereby also qualifying for the Champions League. I'm not even sure if anyone was jailed because of this, and Juventus are now doing great in Serie A and internationally as well. If we compare these two cases, Juventus (according to VALVE's logic) should've been permanently banned from playing in any of the professional/official Italian leagues just like ex-iBP are banned from all VALVE sponsored events. Fuck VALVE :)
2016-01-06 00:52
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#656
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World relaxator
Life-time bans for match-fixing are handed occasionally in sports and e-sports. Italy is knowm for its corruption culture. Those involved in this scandal got off lightly.
2016-01-06 01:06
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#688
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Finland marcelos
That's true, but I still think that a permanent ban is too much of a punishment for not violating any official rules. And since ex-iBP were the first ones to be caught I think the punishment is kinda insane. Give them the chance to either pay a fine or get a 1, maybe a 2 year ban - or both. AFTERWARDS, when the rules are set and clear they can hand out permanent bans if that's what they like the punishment of match-fixing to be.
2016-01-06 01:18
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#605
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Ukraine Dayjay
n1 valve. now, pls put them in jail too.
2016-01-06 00:52
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1 reply
#617
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Sweden BBW
you do realize them stealing those skins is the same as them scamming free runescape items. in the eyes of law at least. they'd max get a few grands of fine if this was taken to IRL actions
2016-01-06 00:54
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#608
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World Freescorpio
Well, sad but fair enough. You can't just throw a game on a purpose and play again like nothing happened year later. Yes, it's cruel to the players, but no one would dare to even think about throwing the game now. Good job, Valve, finally...
2016-01-06 00:53
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#626
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Greece theophilos13
hahaha not they will throw at betting sites like bet365 and volvo will never found it
2016-01-06 00:56
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#609
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Sweden godname
RIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP fucking VALVEEE
2016-01-06 00:52
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#610
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Sweden BBW
Statement by: company who lives off of under-aged kids livesavings / moms credit cards. Allows illegal gambling which is the whole reason this scandal happened and why thousands if not hundreds of thousands of kids have been addicted in gambling. Completed investigating this case over 6 months ago, only tells its permanent after a year and literally no communication (like ever in anything). I mean i could go on but im just mad so im gonna stop
2016-01-06 00:52
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#611
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Sweden ald;
Deal with it i love you Valve
2016-01-06 00:53
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1 reply
#1343
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Greenland 1stWorldBOY
cuz ex-iBP > favela aka LG lol
2016-01-06 14:02
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#612
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Venezuela diegonogara
Well C9 can have a 6th so they can use swag for CEVO ESEA FACEIT and NA tournaments. If he can play there. Like Flipsid3 with s1mple when they had ESL matches
2016-01-06 00:53
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valve go fuck your self. sports athletes receive like 2-3 years ban, and a e-sports player receive a life time ban. wtf
2016-01-06 00:53
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#616
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Bosnia and Herzegovina shroudt4v
valve not only that they block them but they runined there life like valve should tell this in the beggining not at very end.
2016-01-06 00:54
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#618
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Sweden NqBZzz
FeelsBadMan
2016-01-06 00:54
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#619
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Greece theophilos13
retarded logic like always from volvo
2016-01-06 00:54
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#620
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Sweden Iswayodds
Once swag deliver,once these guys did. youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde..
2016-01-06 00:55
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#623
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Brazil pdronee
RiP NA cry Steel
2016-01-06 00:56
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#624
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Finland Suppp
RIP NIP
2016-01-06 00:56
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#627
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Sweden red---
Good riddance. Now we know and all the kids cant stop praying for them to get unbanned. People that say Brax is so innocent, please. Same Brax that got DaZed and Steel kicked for Nitr0 and AdreN? He had a choice, he choose to throw and collect the skins. Skadoodle was smart enough to not take the skins for it, but he was also in on it. Just cant be proven.
2016-01-06 00:56
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So Ska did not get banned just cause he didn't accept to receive the skins... but he clearly accepted to throw the game and haven't even tried to play, didn't pick the awp once that is not a problem?... The other guys are just banned cos they received the skins... I understand this from this decision nice job valve this shows how fair you are! The whole team threw/cheated and 4 out of 5 received skins they got banned and the 1 who didn't accept them got free... Skins are the important thing here I guess! Nice logic!
2016-01-06 00:57
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#1635
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Finland Karppanator
If you watch the game he played you will realize you're wrong
2016-01-07 14:59
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#630
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retrQ | 
United States retroquikz
pretty fucking stupid they had absolutely no rules against it at the time, and the skins were won from a third party, not directly from valve.. Only the person who actually placed the bet should be banned, not the people who threw, all they did was accept it. so bullshit
2016-01-06 00:57
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#668
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mimi | 
Sweden eNvym
I dont stand with valve but comeone its extremely stupid to say there were no rules against it...
2016-01-06 01:12
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2 replies
#674
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retrQ | 
United States retroquikz
potentially ruining someones career for losing purposely for skins from a third party is kind of over the top for something that didnt have a rule. its obvious there wouldve been punishments, but perm? bruh
2016-01-06 01:13
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#733
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United States gotrice541
Professional sports have rules against this t ype of shit but they HAVE rules. Valve doesn't implement rules or anything until something happens multiple times. Just look skins being stolen and hacked and never returned on a daily basis? Took them 2 fucking years to actually implement a system that had a better chance of protecting you from potential hackers on your account.
2016-01-06 01:32
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#631
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Germany niko1a
best thing valve did in a while
2016-01-06 00:58
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1 reply
#647
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World n0n0n0
+1
2016-01-06 01:03
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#636
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Poland el_pistolero
rip i love swagggggerinio WHYYY VALVEU U FKAck thisa suckersa
2016-01-06 00:59
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#637
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Sweden Hampzuka
Well... I understand it but i still don't, atleast not the permanent bans. Boy oh boy, rip NA, honestly tought they would be unbanned one day.
2016-01-06 01:00
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RIP
2016-01-06 01:00
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#640
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United States snellslaw
whats another game to follow?
2016-01-06 01:01
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#641
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Sri Lanka 1v1meRust
Screenshot of Swag's reaction to ban: i.imgur.com/6S9Ks1a.gifv
2016-01-06 01:01
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#643
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Other hardquake
i have lost all of my respect against valve. they are really anoying these days.
2016-01-06 01:02
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#644
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Poland k4usz
At least one i can sat time gj valve ! Finally ban those fucking retards from america, especially this fucking retard dazed. They should've be banned instanly
2016-01-06 01:01
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#653
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Ksharp | 
United States r3gulator
Ban this fucking retard of poland.
2016-01-06 01:04
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4 replies
#659
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Sweden HltvReferee
You can kinda tell what type of people supports this ban by looking at his comment. People who have something PERSONAL against these players. A lot of other people are irritated at the way the whole situation has been HANDLED by Valve. Two very different things.
2016-01-06 01:08
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#720
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France SeeebZ
+1
2016-01-06 01:27
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#730
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United States gotrice541
Most people who are glad the ban happened have something personal against the players and that's true. That's already a biased reason to why they should be banned permanently.
2016-01-06 01:30
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#677
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Poland k4usz
I dont need ban like those americans shits hahahah
2016-01-06 01:16
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#645
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Russia Lug[E]r
#FREE_SWAG
2016-01-06 01:02
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#651
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United Kingdom Joe_EP3
This is incredibly unfair. This really has changed my opinion of Valve and their professionalism.
2016-01-06 01:04
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5 replies
#657
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Sweden HltvReferee
Like HenryG said, you literally get less time for murder.
2016-01-06 01:07
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2 replies
...you get less time in jail, they're banned from playing a video game. If you can't see the difference then I feel bad for you.
2016-01-06 05:41
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#1306
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World RobertMusil
Only if HenryG studied philosophy or just thought a bit before saying anything cheating in a pro game with such manners as IBP did is basically killing the professional game so theoretically it was a murder whose casuality primarly was the professional game directly and indirectly the bettors, the community so boi no wonder it's a lifetime ban
2016-01-06 13:08
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#695
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France SeeebZ
Just look at how they manage (of what is supposed to be the best tournaments) their 'Majors'. Or the 80% of the updates content that is slowly killing the competitive side of the game. That's Valve for you ..
2016-01-06 01:21
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#699
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Brazil hugoooo
How is this unfair?
2016-01-06 01:22
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#652
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United States HyperionN
old news
2016-01-06 01:04
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#661
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Russia Man0warCSGO
rip carier, rip swag
2016-01-06 01:10
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#663
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mimi | 
Sweden eNvym
I dont know. a part of me says its good but the other part says this is not right because there are 100% other teams out there who DID throw matches for skins. and im pretty sure Virtus.pro and that TAZ scumbag are one of those
2016-01-06 01:10
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#666
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Finland OSKU=)D
RiP :(
2016-01-06 01:11
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#667
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Canada crooKk
Feel bad for swag, but so happy those ass-nuggets, Dazed and Steel, are perma-banned from Valve events.
2016-01-06 01:11
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#713
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NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel
yeah, because swag is a fckin angel and he didn't deserve it.
2016-01-06 01:25
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1 reply
#961
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Canada crooKk
He is deserving as the rest, but he doesn't act like a massive ass clown like steel/dazed. I wouldn't mind if swag was unbanned, but I am happy neither of those 2 will ever play at a valve event :]
2016-01-06 05:34
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#671
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France gombus
BRAVO valve show the dirty cheatbags who's boss
2016-01-06 01:12
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1 reply
#971
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United States dualian
french calling others cheatbags? lmfao
2016-01-06 05:48
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#675
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New Zealand skizor
time for swag to do something useful with his life, poor kid
2016-01-06 01:13
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#678
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World riddler339
Great news but what about the ding it type throw matches that have poles and ruskies now asians throwing on a daily basis? Odds shifts like no tomorrow.
2016-01-06 01:14
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#679
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Brazil RisenNTC
RIP
2016-01-06 01:15
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#680
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Canada lHazard
This is ridiculous.. "We will continue to take whatever action we think is necessary to protect the entertainment value created by professional Counter-Strike" Oh yeah, so excited abozZZZzzZz Same 250k tournaments every year, and Valve making millions out of the players every major.
2016-01-06 01:15
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#683
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Finland Skydex
Fucking joke. GG Valve
2016-01-06 01:16
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#686
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Poland OmeN_
Free ex-iBP Free ex-iBP Free ex-iBP Free ex-iBP
2016-01-06 01:18
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love the argument from idiots saying "there was no rules". there didn't even need to be rules. obviously max fixing as a professional player is strictly prohibited. even a fucking child could understand that. grow a brain please
2016-01-06 01:19
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#743
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Ksharp | 
United States r3gulator
Good thing you dont and probably will never run a business. There does have to be rules. The fact you dont understand that, tells me enough.
2016-01-06 01:36
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2 replies
cool, no-one cares
2016-01-06 01:39
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1 reply
#780
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United States gotrice541
Seems you do due to the fact that you brought it up in the first place fucktard.
2016-01-06 01:58
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#692
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World qwaeavwe
Valve should unban all these players and ban perma from now or ban all the other players who bet their own matches
2016-01-06 01:20
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#693
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Portugal daris
I think they don't deserve this, RIP NA dreams :\
2016-01-06 01:20
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#696
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Brazil hugoooo
Great decision valve. +respect
2016-01-06 01:21
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#697
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cAmyy | 
Other ToRu
HAHA nice volvo
2016-01-06 01:22
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#700
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World riddler339
Well it a good precedence. I only hope they dont limit it to the high visibility tourneys cos then its not going to have any impact.
2016-01-06 01:22
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#702
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Dominican Republic Reloadingskillz
Agree with the ex-iBP bans, this was a real organisation behind it and so much money involved, does it mean same sentence for the others? Cause honestly i don't think you can compare the ex-iBP organisation and the others. Even if they should never done that ofc and i'll never agree with this kind of mentality but you have to think you are potentially cutting a career with everything behind that (life, money, future etc...) -Shox's Tweet
2016-01-06 01:23
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#722
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United States gotrice541
The 1 year ban was enough and now that they have rules in place, perma-bans should start from then on. Valve just can't say that they'll ban you permanently when there were no rules in place about it.
2016-01-06 01:28
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#727
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Dominican Republic Reloadingskillz
I mean ex-IBP players should still know that throwing a game for skins is still going to get them banned regardless.Half of them were young adults (except swag) so they should of made the right decision but they didn't, sucks for them but they deserved it.
2016-01-06 01:29
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#847
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United States gotrice541
Doesn't matter. Valve didn't make a huge deal and implement anything when a bunch of EU teams threw. One NA team threw, all of a sudden Valve can't tolerate these actions anymore? That's very biased that it took an NA team throwing for skins for Valve to even implement this.
2016-01-06 02:44
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#703
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Vietnam stzzi
T_T
2016-01-06 01:23
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#707
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World imprawner
I wasnt watching hltv and betting scene that VP throw thing so closely, but now im disgusted i thought pasha is a honest man? Just proves about man in general if you had the chance would you take it to get skins?
2016-01-06 01:23
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#708
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NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel
inb4 swag kicked from c9
2016-01-06 01:24
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#709
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Ex6TenZ | 
Norway orcaM
GJ Valve! +respect and huge thumbs up! <3
2016-01-06 01:24
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#711
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Costa Rica rsuu
well, they deserve it, i dont hate them but they deserve this and even more..
2016-01-06 01:24
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#712
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Somalia goner
azk he is the north american player but in the titan he is the french star
2016-01-06 01:24
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#716
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Europe Taquito
Fuck valve fuck them for real
2016-01-06 01:26
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#718
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United States jliat
Lawsuit! Lawsuit! gogogo
2016-01-06 01:27
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The fact is that some make an income through betting on cs go. Losing a game like the ibp one where they have put a high bet can ruin them literally in real life.
2016-01-06 01:28
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#725
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United States jtaylor33
deserved
2016-01-06 01:29
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4 replies
#751
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Brazil hugoooo
Wow, you're first 'murican that is not being biased, out of everybody commenting here
2016-01-06 01:44
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3 replies
#970
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United States dualian
and you are one of those brazilian fagbois who wants ibp to be banned so they cant rekt lg
2016-01-06 05:46
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2 replies
#1092
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Brazil hugoooo
I don't care about their nationality, I'm happy that the ban applies to ex-Epsilon players too, I hate cheaters and people that throw. The annoying thing is that 95% of the Americans want these scum to be allowed to play again, when you compare to non-americans the numbers are waaaay different, bias as fuck. But I understand why you guys are crying so much, these four players were the last hope to see an american team doing good again, now the NA CS is fucked for good.
2016-01-06 08:47
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Actually there are a ton of non-americans that want them unbanned, it just so happens that just about every bronzilian doesn't, and it's blatantly obvious you just fear they would beat the shit out of LG if they were unbanned. Typical faggotry, badly played.
2016-01-06 14:41
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#728
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France sylverfalcon
ahah RIP
2016-01-06 01:29
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#731
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United Kingdom 1337haxor
IM SO MAD RIGHT NOW, I LITERALLY QUIT WATCHING CS BECAUSE THEY GOT BANNED. FUCK VALVE, FUCK GABEN, I HOPE THIS GAME DIES
2016-01-06 01:31
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#738
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Slovakia JanKy1
expected from valveshit...all they care for is money
2016-01-06 01:34
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#739
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Japan jia
deserved
2016-01-06 01:34
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#740
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Croatia blameitonthenight
In a serious note, VALVE makes shit ton of money every day... They make in 10 minutes how much iBP stole. I know that is big difference between stealing and making money, but imo perma ban is 2 much, and if they gave back the money, 1 year ban is fine.
2016-01-06 01:35
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#1467
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Montenegro jackALL
yeah, a fine + 1 (or 2 max) year ban would be fine. But Valve does this because they cant be bothered to actively investigate throws so they just do it medieval style: hang the one thief you accidently caught in the act and hope it deters others (it doesnt).
2016-01-06 16:51
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gayben can suck my dick
2016-01-06 01:35
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#744
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Ethiopia aNCIOn
valve was probably being pressured by all betting sites, can't blame them. Is it fair? no, but what is anyway. they cheated and got people to lose a lot of money. vac'ed cheaters should also not be unbanned ever, they ruined games for people and are just mentally sick. I honestly hope all cheaters die slowly and have a painful death for ruining the game for me and others.
2016-01-06 01:37
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#745
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Ksharp | 
United States r3gulator
You know who is really mad? IBP The actual company.
2016-01-06 01:37
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inc ddos l8r valve shitties
2016-01-06 01:38
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#748
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World insaluur
Valve should go F themselves.
2016-01-06 01:40
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Damn skins. They're the Satan of the CS:Scene. Maybe we should spend money on a better PC so we're not complaining about fps issues when we use a potato?!
2016-01-06 01:42
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1 reply
#788
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shroud | 
World AngelShinta
It is the greediness of the people and not the skins...
2016-01-06 02:03
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#752
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Fifflaren | 
Ukraine FaZe_UW0TM8
Disgusting having missed the best year of csgo with the largest prize pools is a big punishment already.... it might be their game but they dont have the right to take players careers away.
2016-01-06 01:44
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#765
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Brazil hugoooo
Valve didn't... the players themselves did. 1 - They were dumb to come out with the idea 2 - They were dumb enough to accept the idea 3 - They were dumb again to let it leak Deserved.
2016-01-06 01:50
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5 replies
#786
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shroud | 
World AngelShinta
+1
2016-01-06 02:02
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#1225
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Fifflaren | 
Ukraine FaZe_UW0TM8
Not the point of my comment
2016-01-06 11:31
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#1337
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United States Dragonborn
i blame dazed the greedy cunt. he initiated the whole idea and convinced the rest of ex-ibp. RIP. that's why having friends is overrated. i am friends only with grills i wanna fuck.
2016-01-06 13:56
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2 replies
#1359
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Sweden dax - Joel
YOU ARE THE LEET HERO! PRAISE THE DOVAKIN! LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
2016-01-06 14:16
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#1369
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Turkey J1T_T3R
legendary post number
2016-01-06 14:31
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#956
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United States dualian
are you like from the future? how do you know 2015 is csgo's best year with biggest pool?
2016-01-06 05:17
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#753
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Freya | 
France Sheld
betting on your own win should never be illegal. Only betting on your own loss.
2016-01-06 01:45
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1 reply
#766
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Belgium dekatw
Well that's what happened ? They bet on their loss.
2016-01-06 01:50
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#754
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Brazil hugoooo
2016-01-06 01:45
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#755
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Libya mithh
"While bans can be disruptive and painful to some members of the community, they are sometimes necessary." Well, tbh they deserve it, 10,000$ is not a little number, only the people who lost money on that match will feel the pain and valve understands their pain, so they got banned forever.
2016-01-06 01:46
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#756
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elemeNt | 
Portugal uselessmoney
unfuckingfair
2016-01-06 01:46
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2 replies
#777
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Finland kappaboi
i rape your mom, she worth 2 dollars.. u wanna give me chance to rape her again?
2016-01-06 01:54
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1 reply
#784
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elemeNt | 
Portugal uselessmoney
my mom died 2 weeks ago
2016-01-06 02:01
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#757
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Finland zyCora
But ex cheaters can play. Lololol fucked up shit.
2016-01-06 01:47
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GG Volvo first you give us the damn russians that cant speak english,then you give us bad patches etc and a fucking revolver. Wtf volvo plz fix yourself. I feel so bad for swag rip gg #moti
2016-01-06 01:47
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2016-01-06 01:48
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#760
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China  Tiger
so in the end swags worst decision was to join IBP LOL!
2016-01-06 01:48
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#1035
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World seven1337
no? his worst decision was throwing the fking game skadoodle didnt skadoodle isnt banned
2016-01-06 07:25
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1 reply
#1156
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China  Tiger
skadoodle did throw just as much as everyone else, a lucky coincidence happened and he didnt recieve skins in time after when all the fuss was starting to spread and he didnt take them in the end.
2016-01-06 10:07
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Swag is just as much guilty as the others. He deserves same punishment, but I think 1 year was enough
2016-01-06 20:44
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#763
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United States gotrice541
10,000 dollars worth of skins lost on that match and let's say everyone max betted. thats only 41.66666 people that max bet and also considering the percentages on IBP you either had to max bet your inventory or you won't get nothing people who lost their skins probably didn't even lose that much as they claim to have lost.
2016-01-06 01:50
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#764
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
n1 valve keep these ppl far away from the competitive scene
2016-01-06 01:50
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Jews got rekt for once.
2016-01-06 01:53
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#775
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Finland kappaboi
good, fuck cheaters ! respect valve
2016-01-06 01:54
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lmao get fucked
2016-01-06 01:54
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#782
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shroud | 
World AngelShinta
I like valves decision you can't trust them... and NO it wasn't a little mistake...they knew that they are doing something illegal. And I don't give a fuck about the "age thing" .."they were so young blah blah" "kids so naiv"... well when I was that age ..I KNEW that shit like this is not right, SO fuck them. they destroyed their lifes...it is their fault not valves.
2016-01-06 02:00
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7 replies
#803
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Greece Swishh_
+1
2016-01-06 02:10
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#1401
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Brazil Milionario
illegal... LOL destroyed their lives... LOLLL
2016-01-06 15:10
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5 replies
#1527
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shroud | 
World AngelShinta
I guess you don't understand it.
2016-01-06 19:57
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4 replies
#1710
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Brazil Milionario
i do. but you over dramatized it, and a lot.
2016-01-09 14:52
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3 replies
#1711
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shroud | 
World AngelShinta
not really face the truth but I guess kids won't understand stuff like that
2016-01-09 15:18
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2 replies
#1713
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Brazil Milionario
omg dense fuck, i dont think somebody that plays games and rage at a webcam on twitch making thousands every month has destroyed his life. you say things like this was terrible it seems that you care way more than they do lol bye mr OhIliveByTheRulesAndIamAfraidOfDoingAnythingThatDoesntSeemRightOhhhhhLetsBeAcompleteMorallyRightHumanBeing i hope your mom is proud of the pussy she raised
2016-01-09 17:30
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1 reply
#1718
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shroud | 
World AngelShinta
wow kid grow up pls
2016-01-09 19:49
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#785
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Poland mrvl_net
LOL AT ALL THE PPL WHO SAID VALVE DIDN'T HAVE ANY RULES FOR MATCHFIXING, SO THEIR DECISION IS WRONG. Yes, I'm using caps for the people to see.
2016-01-06 02:01
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#801
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Austria plathx
why lol? the point isn't wrong, they just happen to be banned still. logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
2016-01-06 02:08
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#1190
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Poland mrvl_net
It's matchfixing, they're not retarded, do you think that in boxing they have the rule that says 'DO NOT MATCHFIX, IT'S NOT NICE'? Everyone knows it's wrong, they knew it themselves, nobody should give a shit whether there was a rule or not, they just didn't expect to get caught and would have probably done it again if they weren't. There are some things that don't need the rules for people to understand it's bottomline wrong. Yes, sure, now they can act like it was a mistake of their life, but that's exactly how life is, you have to pay for the mistakes you make, they lacked honor and integrity and stole from many people that believed in them. I like steel, I like swag, but goddamn if this ban is not deserved.
2016-01-06 10:48
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Nice message to other players. I guess this was the only way
2016-01-06 02:04
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#793
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Korea OGKoala
Embarrassed. shouldnt have been so stupid in the first place
2016-01-06 02:04
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"While bans can be disruptive and painful to some members of the community, they are sometimes necessary." How is this fucking necessary. There were NO rules regarding this. Get your brains straight shitty Volvo.
2016-01-06 02:04
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#948
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United States dualian
the same brain that thinks r8 revolover is a good idea
2016-01-06 05:13
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#797
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World Fr3de
Pretty sad in my opinion, swag and fxy0, especially, are so talanted. Could've been legends.
2016-01-06 02:05
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3 replies
U right man
2016-01-06 02:07
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#888
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World ellc22
Their fault
2016-01-06 03:26
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1 reply
#1178
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World Fr3de
Did I say something that implicated the opposite?
2016-01-06 10:38
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Cool. Now do something about the fucking cheaters.
2016-01-06 02:07
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#804
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Norway SlimeThug
That's fucking stupid Valve. Get a grip on how reality works. You don't get lifetime in prison for doing scams
2016-01-06 02:11
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#806
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North America oldshoe
TOLD YA SO. please, go back to reddit now. they will never be unbanned. p.s. dazed was mediocre
2016-01-06 02:13
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more individually skilled right now than any other NA player except skadoodle and swag
2016-01-06 02:15
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4 replies
#810
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North America oldshoe
mediocre. toxic. and his career is OFFICIALLY over. sorry bud, go on back to reddit.
2016-01-06 02:16
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3 replies
name a na player more skilled than him other than skadoodle and swag i agree he's toxic, but the rest is wrong.
2016-01-06 02:17
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2 replies
#813
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North America oldshoe
i'm wrong that his career was just declared officially over? lol, ok I guess.
2016-01-06 02:18
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yes, seeing as he might still be allowed to compete in 90% of the tournaments hosted each year. retard.
2016-01-06 02:19
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riPepperonis
2016-01-06 02:14
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#815
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Brazil VAC0
excelent!!! responsability. teammates can choose players with this criteria. sad for good player that did this kind of mistake.
2016-01-06 02:19
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How idiot u have to be to say something like "lol no rules against matchfixing, its completly ok!". :DD Same time u are like oh 1 year ban is ok. So 1 year ban for nothing then? WTF? Logic 100.
2016-01-06 02:21
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#821
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Brazil wdks
RIP NA
2016-01-06 02:22
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#822
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Denmark laaaaaaa
well FUCK YOU VALVE, IBP was the ONLY NA team that can win something HUGE in EU, IBP made a mistake and you banned them for life.
2016-01-06 02:23
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#823
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JW | 
United States theobill1
"EVERY ACTION COMES WITH A CONSEQUENCE" well deserved! Rest in Pieces throwers 4Head
2016-01-06 02:23
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2 replies
#943
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United States dualian
except valve didnt list the consequence before hand
2016-01-06 05:11
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1 reply
#1192
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Poland mrvl_net
Jesus christ, it's matchfixing, they're not 10 year olds, they know the reality, in every sport sth like that ends with a ban for life, whether there are rules or not.
2016-01-06 10:50
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nice
2016-01-06 02:26
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#829
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Denmark cabronnn
RIP SWAGERINO :( a wasted talent
2016-01-06 02:27
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#830
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Korea Laiton
verry nice news im glad to see Valve taking shit seriously
2016-01-06 02:27
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#832
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Reunion ramowarr
ty valve
2016-01-06 02:31
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#833
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Sweden highfield
Its all about the money money money!
2016-01-06 02:32
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#836
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World Aserv
lol @ all the mad fanboys
2016-01-06 02:34
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#839
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s1mple | 
Bangladesh balti
auch
2016-01-06 02:37
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#840
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United Kingdom hando
Moral of this story is you can cheat all you like, even at the pro level, but don't mess around with Valve's skin revenue.
2016-01-06 02:38
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+1 fucking baguettes cheating on lans since fucking cs sauce
2016-01-06 06:38
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#1046
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United States groWthoughT
+1, hando understands Valve. It's all $$ and self-interest, with no interest in justice or fairness.
2016-01-06 07:41
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rip forever
2016-01-06 02:38
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#849
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Brazil ChoKe_Clan_no_major
WELL DESERVED, GRATZ VOLVO. RIP NA CS 2k16
2016-01-06 02:55
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rip na cs, they're never going to actually convincingly win a major now. nice one volvo.
2016-01-06 02:47
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#857
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United States iownredport
in 50 years, there will be a major with a uk team and an na team.
2016-01-06 02:51
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#942
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United States dualian
uk cs. rofl
2016-01-06 05:09
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#852
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Yugoslavia anystrike
Gj Valve i fucking love u all
2016-01-06 02:48
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#856
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England azrl
Unban them.. Valve you've made your point. Say from now on whoever throws a game gets banned for life. There was no rule set in stone before, now there is. Give quiche a chance..
2016-01-06 02:52
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#876
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Brazil 1kuNg
yeah that's the only thing that bothers me, that were no rules before, them they make a very severe one and say that they just wanna make a point with that.
2016-01-06 03:10
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#FreeSwag
2016-01-06 02:56
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Hope you enjoy the Negev desert strike, swag! : ) [*]
2016-01-06 02:56
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Fuck this, they are not compromising any fucking integrity of the scene and the only reason they did this was insurance. In this case the insurance cost them nothing besides a few people flaming and the careers of people apparently they deem "expensable". I am sorry for being that flamer but seriously, poor decision, nah fucking idiotic decision.
2016-01-06 02:57
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#865
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United States Legend0415
Great job not banning the t3 teams.
2016-01-06 02:57
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#867
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Russia lanstw
it was good job. after this t1-2team dont do this.. no throwerinho!
2016-01-06 03:00
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#869
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shox | 
United States generalmajorah
If they really stand by banning them forever I hope Valve doesn't cockblock them from playing in the turner league, faceit, esea, etc.
2016-01-06 03:03
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#871
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Korea Laiton
sweet sweet justice
2016-01-06 03:03
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#875
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Brazil ALFADR
So you guys are saying that is fair gets almost 10,000 $ in match-fixing and take just 1 year ban, and then they can normally continues in the tournaments getting more money?There's a lot to be explained...
2016-01-06 03:06
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#877
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Finland Urkkiz
Well done Valve. I support you. :)
2016-01-06 03:12
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Valve is right BTW. They banned alot of dota 2 players too, players like this cannot be called as "professionals". And who cares anyways, dazed and steel are more toxic than chernobyl, they wont last more than 3 months on a team. lol
2016-01-06 03:15
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#880
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North Macedonia dimitar[A]
they banned 10 players 1 year ago, and no new cheaters? no way? btw good decision :D search cheaters every month, not once in 5 years
2016-01-06 03:17
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#882
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United States jtaylor33
well done
2016-01-06 03:19
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#883
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United Kingdom kESKY
Deserved.
2016-01-06 03:21
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I understand why they did it, but still, its a scummy move, the ban is deserved.
2016-01-06 03:22
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#892
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Australia GO_Tor
indeed.
2016-01-06 03:29
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#886
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United Kingdom Lemoniwinks
GJ valve. Not doing the easiest non cost effective thing the majority of the community wants from you. Burning the bridges of players during the early stages of the game's development. No one had any clue that it would become as big as this. This wont stop the match fixing it will just make it more secretive. Valve once again you fix nothing you just sweep it under the rug.
2016-01-06 03:22
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#887
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dsn | 
Turkey OFFICIALNEAL
Good job Valve!
2016-01-06 03:25
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#889
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f0rest | 
Canada huzaifa_73
FUCKKKKK, FUCKKKKKK, FUCK THIS SHIT, who cares if they threw now, its been a year, almost everyone is over it, no one even gives a shit, also so many people want them unbannned. if valve is reading this, plz unban them, no one cares about ur INTEGRITY.
2016-01-06 03:27
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#898
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Australia GO_Tor
lack of giving a shit is why matches get fixed, and cheats are allowed to continue cheating..
2016-01-06 03:35
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#1193
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Poland mrvl_net
Exactly that, people don't understand that the attitude they have towards the case is the bottomline reason we have matchfixing, cheating etc. in the game. Because they don't give a shit.
2016-01-06 10:52
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#890
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World ellc22
Good job valve. Lost 240 max bet in this game
2016-01-06 03:27
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#891
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United States zkipa
rip NA volvo sux
2016-01-06 03:28
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#893
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Brazil BonaO
i know that one year ago
2016-01-06 03:30
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#896
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Norway namsayin
well deserved! :)
2016-01-06 03:33
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#897
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China panenka
blame richard lewis that toxic fat UK journalist who is hungry for any attention but well deserved bans, greedy motherfuckers
2016-01-06 03:36
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#900
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Australia GO_Tor
Right, don't blame the idiots that threw that match for money, Nahh that's stupid! .. Fanfucktard logic... Dazed, Swag, AZK, Steel... scummed people, and paid for it..
2016-01-06 03:37
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#957
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Canada legenDz
it's called 2nd chances, athletes take steroids all the time and when caught they aren't banned for life, you temporary ban and draw a line, if they didn't learn their lesson and cross that line then they will never learn so you perma ban but these are kids we're talking about and when you put money and gambling into your game then expect this. They're definitely not the only ones to throw games trust me, all these teams have.
2016-01-06 05:22
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#1468
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Montenegro jackALL
steroids is more like hacking, which generally never lands you a lifetime ban. Real life athletes get fucking permarekt for matchfixing as well.
2016-01-06 16:53
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#903
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Brazil rajadal
rip swag
2016-01-06 03:42
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#904
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World idinahui
top kek lewl
2016-01-06 03:42
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#905
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Latvia henrihsss
fuck you valve
2016-01-06 03:51
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#908
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Australia Rx777
Fucking cunts
2016-01-06 03:54
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Rip na dreams...may dazed and co rest in piece
2016-01-06 03:57
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good news. deserved. r.i.p. swag.
2016-01-06 04:06
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#915
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United States mjk925
ouch.... kind of agree with the statement though, idk what is deserved, no one does really... but in this case valve is the judge and the jury.
2016-01-06 04:07
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#916
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Saudi Arabia hrmla1993
swag to c9 trust me
2016-01-06 04:11
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omg this is so fucking bullshit. Hate them or love them, you cant say its not a waste of talents
2016-01-06 04:21
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#983
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Australia kTw0
+1
2016-01-06 05:57
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#921
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Denmark er1KGONE
Making a scapegoat of people who didn't break any Valve rules (only rules of moral, if you can day that), is really fucking strange for me. I mean fair enough if they'd have a set of rules, but in the end they only took afvantage of a situation that CSGOLOUNGE made possible. Tbh I feel like a one year would be more than enough, they can't really just throw around retrospective rules ending up in death sentences for them. That seems a little stupid to me.
2016-01-06 04:28
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#922
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United States brieN
it has nothing to do with morals or rules. It is for money as the primary reason and secondary as a PR move. These skin sites cut out valve of their percentage of selling skins on market and PR move as it saves face if it is ever uncovered and makes valve look like a responsible company. They don't care, no fortune 500 company cares about morals, they can't or they would lose revenue for morals and that is how you get less profit so shareholders get mad and you get fired and replaced by someone who puts profits at the #1
2016-01-06 04:39
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#990
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Denmark er1KGONE
If anything Valve should be applauding the throw, as it took away skins, so people had to rebuy on market then. I honestly do not think investors give two shits about iBP players being banned, which makes it stupid to me. Having more toptier players in NA means a better shot at events in EU, thus getting more exposure in NA. To me Valve should have interests in getting iBP back out there. More than a year ban also seems retarded to me. LoL has a 1 year ban policy, and CSGO players make more than LoL players do in a year (from the gameproviders side at least), why punish csgo players harder?
2016-01-06 06:09
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#1604
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Ireland sekke
If I remember correct something similar happend on the dota 2 scene (also valve game) Rox.Kis - Solo betted against his own team and won 322$ worth. He was sentenced to a lifetime ban but was later changed to a 1 year ban. edit: It was Starladder who gave Solo the ban. So valve actually took no action in this matchfixing/throw case.
2016-01-07 08:23
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#1606
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Denmark er1KGONE
Exactly. Already back then they shouldve taken action, shouldve made rules regarding the topic, yet they didnt. For me a one year ban is more than enough of a punishment, and if you were to draw paralels to other games, that would confirm it as well. It seems stupid and broken that iBP players and epsilon players ends up with a LIFETIME ban for something that has no specific rules to it. If I was Valve I'd say "this time It's one year as we had no other rulings in place before. Next time anyone does it within Valve framework its lifetime."
2016-01-07 08:37
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#1634
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Ireland sekke
I totaly agree and not because I care about any of the players in particularly.
2016-01-07 14:58
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#1639
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Denmark er1KGONE
Same, I just think its retarded
2016-01-07 17:02
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Yet another reason why skins destroyed the game, this is such a sad day for CS. Sure they did wrong but its just an easy way out for them, they have the shittiest anticheat going yet jump on their high horse when it comes to matters like this makes me fucking laugh. Tbh all top teams should boycott valve majors and see what happens, im sure theres other companys out there willing to take the mantle from them.
2016-01-06 04:42
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Problem is tho, that without skins, CSgo would barely be a game the casual person knew of. Blaming skins and betting for this doesn't make sense since its the main reason to why CS is as big as it is today, wouldn't be anywhere close without it
2016-01-06 07:07
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People argue that point but i dont see it that way, sure it gave it a kick up the ass , but it would of got to that point if the game merited it with being a solid FPS game. To assume it wouldnt of got this far without skins says the game sucks and its all about cosmetics which is kind of my point and many others... if the game is that good it shouldnt need 'skins' to become successful. And this is a prime example of the badside of skins and betting! get rid of them both we dont need it here
2016-01-06 11:14
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Well that's the thing about cs, it's not that interesting to just watch(Except major finals etc), why would the casual person be interested? "If the game is that good it shouldnt need skins" CS aint that good of a game, it's big due to what it brought to betting and skins. 1.6 and even source was A MUCH better game competitively-wise than CS:GO is, and it wasn't at all as big as CS::GO, and it was because betting and skins didnt exist back then.
2016-01-07 04:48
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#924
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joel | 
Korea hyundai
I'm very sad. This is so unfair. I really thought they would get unbanned soon.
2016-01-06 04:47
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fuckin idiots valve... Just fkn unbann them so we get a better scene..
2016-01-06 04:56
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#941
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Australia kTw0
It is 50/50 Valve are trying to make a statement and ex-iBP put them in a difficult situation, you cant please everyone. It is a loss to the NA scene though.
2016-01-06 05:09
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#950
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World Scova
Ska got away w/e
2016-01-06 05:14
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#951
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United Kingdom lauzkushking
Thats it lock them up and throw away the key. No chance of redemption. How fair, oh wait.
2016-01-06 05:14
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#954
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Canada legenDz
they should seriously unban past players and implement this now. What were they expecting when they put skins and gambling into this game? these are kids we're talking about who don't think about the actions they make but you've showed what you can do and how you can ruin their cs career so it's time for 2nd chances and now players know where you stand.
2016-01-06 05:16
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#959
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SpawN | 
Netherlands militanthumanist
When you play a professional sport, there is also real money involved. These guys decided to fix their match for thousands of dollars worth of skins, to sell them for real money. I remember steel saying he earned some extra money from something he couldnt talk about on stream. It was not about the skins and it was not only about that 1 match.
2016-01-06 05:26
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#1038
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Canada legenDz
pro athletes take steroids which is illegal as well and still don't get perma banned, once they repeat the offense then a perma ban can be implemented but i think valves point has come across and i think it's time to let these kids who messed up take the punishment they deserved and now give them a chance to fullfill their dreams again the right way.
2016-01-06 07:34
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#955
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Brazil yan_rulez
RIP. Kinda wanted to see DaZeD, steel, Brax&co playing again.
2016-01-06 05:16
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#960
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Spain cuchibiri
dumb move by valve. fuck ur skins
2016-01-06 05:32
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deserved
2016-01-06 05:38
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#964
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Australia Mr Crowley
Valve talking about how they don't support people exploiting fans of CS:GO that's cute coming from them.
2016-01-06 05:40
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#1608
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Netherlands Good-Bye
no you don't see it correctly valve got the monopoly so they really want 2 keep that. it's the same when you try take money from taxes then you are really screwed because they have all the power to get there money is it not left or the right way then you got there way.
2016-01-07 09:02
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#967
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Faroe Islands Plebhero
RIP NA scene RIP NA viewers RIP CSGO [*]
2016-01-06 05:42
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#968
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Argentina jo1nou
if iBP don't get the unban USA is dead
2016-01-06 05:45
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#969
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Norway blinkeh
Hahaha get mad fangays. So many tears in this thread. Nerds.
2016-01-06 05:45
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2016-01-06 05:50
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#974
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Russia AnaLordN
Swag to Cloud9 confirmed [*]
2016-01-06 05:52
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#975
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Brazil kadotA
Nice Volvo, really deserved!
2016-01-06 05:53
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#981
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Estonia 2026
Aight, now wait for official statement from other leagues and I think there might be a slight possibility for them to compete in some of the tournies, since lets be real, there are only 3-4 majors a year and that's it.
2016-01-06 05:55
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Valve works so hard to prove over and over what a fucking joke they are. Lifetime ban for fucking skins. Lifetime ban for something that was never an official rule. What a fucking joke.
2016-01-06 05:55
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#985
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Sweden agzbagz
love the NA tears you have over 350 million people and you arent even close to being as good as Sweden with only 9 million Pathetic.
2016-01-06 06:04
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NA is a console country dude. A guy in Sweden is normal if he likes computers but in NA we are geeks. 8/10 guys are most likely going to prefer consoles over comps
2016-01-06 06:44
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#1015
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Sweden agzbagz
still 17% of all players that play cs go are from NA and only 4% are swedish
2016-01-06 06:55
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You're better than us. I know you already know this but Id like you to hear it from an actual NA user.
2016-01-06 06:56
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My comment has nothing to with NA CS... I don't watch or participate in NA CS at all... It's Valve that is the problem.
2016-01-07 22:07
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#1338
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United States Dragonborn
you are the fuckin joke, dooode. go back to school, idiot.
2016-01-06 13:57
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#988
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Portugal JonhyBot
Gj Valve! Those kind of fuckers and behaviour should have no place in esports! And this should come as no surprise...i mean, Solo got permaban for only a 322$ throw!...IBP players probably got more than that in skins...
2016-01-06 06:11
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#989
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United States mxpro-1H
good dazed is a piece of shit so is steel AZK n swag are good dudes maybe have a chance down the road but as far as dazed and steel they should be banned forever you ever watch their stream when their playing FPL and losing rofl biggest crybaby bitches ever
2016-01-06 06:08
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Scumbags get what they deserve. Good job Valve!
2016-01-06 06:16
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#996
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United States WilbuRsson
plz bitch I dont even like these guys but they ain't fucking pete rose. One game. Valve needed a year to think about cuz theyre faggots who dont know what the fuck to do.
2016-01-06 06:26
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Who compared them to Pete Rose or fucking Richard Kuklinski? You delusional punks don't get it. Valve is a business and these idiots were playing with the money of a business enterprise. You think they'll let anyone get away with that? These young streaming motherfuckers can be taken to court for Fraud with possible jail time. Let's see the odds of Valve winning the case! If they took a year to make this decision because they didn't have the balls, it's STILL THEIR GAME and they'll do whatever the fuck they wanna do. Doesn't change the fact that a bunch of faggots and their faggot fanboys wanna sweep their shit under the rug.
2016-01-06 06:44
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#1033
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United States WilbuRsson
I'm not arguing that steel and dazed are shitheads, they are, case closed. AZK and swag im indifferent on but thats not what matters. So valve lifetime bans the first team ever caught throwing for skins after waiting a year because they had no set of guidelines. They should and could have tried to replace what the stole while being punished between 1-3 years. This is about 1 thing and 1 thing only, justice for people who lost skins? I think not. Valve is a fucking whore.
2016-01-06 07:20
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You're asking a business to do the right thing. What do you realistically expect? iBP players became a business liability. From corporate offices to drug cartels, a business liability is taken care of the same way - it gets weeded out. Now, Valve is fucking dumb about a lot of things and they don't communicate much. We all know that already. But don't fool yourself into believing that Valve is obligated to respond on the matter sooner to give the community or iBP players some closure. They don't owe anyone jackshit. They don't wanna be douches either so yeah, a bit of a public image is necessary to uphold. Call them what you want - whores, faggots, etc. Still, you can clearly tell it was a business decision and they took a whole year to calm things down, downplay the whole shit and then come out with a verdict.
2016-01-06 15:15
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#1575
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United States WilbuRsson
Well to me online gambling in all forms should be illegal if the attorney general deems online poker to be illegal then how can skin gambling and sites like draft kings be allowed to operate. So my feeling is that valve is already well below the bar in terms of morals when they can and do shut down some bots and trade ban them while others operate freely. This can only be due to them receiving a portion of the proceeds and it borders on extortion, wouldn't you say? Let's be honest, this is gambling done primarily by children and is a completely unsanctioned form that some people were willing to try and deceive. Again these were times when valve made no statement about skin gambling and was actually banning bots and shutting down sites as such. Then they decided to make rules. The one piece of justice to come from this would be a law against it in all forms just as has been the case with absolute poker etc. Let the skins market bottom out and make valve understand that there is no place for underage gambling in gaming. Make no doubt steam has skimmed more money from more children due to this than all the games ever thrown by teams. And do not think this is anything more then a warning to other teams that they had better entertain all conversations of throwing over the phone rather than over stream messenger. And that's all it's done, prevent it from happening? Absolutely not.
2016-01-07 00:15
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Didn't SirScoots report CSGOLounge to the FBI recently? I say fuck em all. You can find the flak/praises he got on his twitter timeline but I'm all for laws here. I say shut down all these pathetic gambling shit sites that have made people deviate from the actual game. The DDoS attacks on Dota 2 and CSGO players are related to this gambling too. Valve can easily pull the plug on the usage of its API that these sites use and blacklist them. I seriously dunno wtf they're waiting for.
2016-01-07 08:59
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#1612
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United States WilbuRsson
They're waiting for it to not make them money ofc like you said, its a business. As if the whole thing is more legit now that they banned iBP, it's laughable. What should have happened is that the sites banned the players, valve banned the bots from the sites, and contacted the members of the team for mediated punishment. I think we may agree here that both parties are the scumbags, but only ibp got theirs.
2016-01-07 11:06
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... They were literally the last hope of NA
2016-01-06 06:28
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#998
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Russia zonelic
rip swag=(((
2016-01-06 06:29
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#1002
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Australia Xplicid
Stupid. Valve are so retarded.
2016-01-06 06:32
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fnatic and envy cheating their asses off and they dont give a flying fuck but now theyre going nuts about some fucking match-fixing..
2016-01-06 06:35
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#1091
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Australia kTw0
There is so much wrong with this comment. You are implying that match-fixing isnt a big deal, it is just as bad if not worse than hacking because it is essentially stealing which ex-iBP knew, I am not defending valve's decision but it is definitely justified. And making false accusations that nV and fnatic are "cheating their asses off" proves you have no idea what you are talking about. They are professional players, they are 100x better than anyone on this forum, it is their job to be the best it doesnt mean they are hacking.
2016-01-06 08:46
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#1004
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Sweden Krittamate
NA salty nerds just get rekt
2016-01-06 06:36
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11 replies
#1008
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States dualian
ur mom just got rekt by ur neighbor mohamad
2016-01-06 06:39
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10 replies
#1093
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia kTw0
No doubt this guy is a 12 year old republican sucking Trump's dick ^ get rekt fanboy
2016-01-06 08:47
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6 replies
#1217
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Rx777
Shut the fuck up faggot
2016-01-06 11:20
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5 replies
#1238
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
Dont tell him to shup up you faggot
2016-01-06 11:49
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#1274
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia kTw0
Bogans like this is why our nation is the most under developed first world country on the planet
2016-01-06 12:27
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3 replies
#1276
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Rx777
Yes, despite the fact that I have a fully Italian background I'm a bogan. Also, sources for Australia being the most under developed first world country in the world? Can't find any? That's because it isnt. Shut the fuck up.
2016-01-06 12:28
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2 replies
#1281
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia kTw0
So you're a wog?
2016-01-06 12:35
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1 reply
#1283
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Rx777
Indeed
2016-01-06 12:38
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#1601
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Krittamate
PERMANENT BANNED ! Now what fangays? HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA
2016-01-07 07:49
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2 replies
#1603
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States dualian
fagnatic will get fucked by tsm and envyus this year anyway, might start being a property fan so that u wont embarrass urself
2016-01-07 08:18
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1 reply
#1765
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Krittamate
I'm not fnatic or nup fan you retard, Xd
2016-02-16 07:26
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rip braxiboi
2016-01-06 06:39
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So disappointing with the handling of the situation by valve. Other things could have been done.
2016-01-06 06:45
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cheaters unbanned after 2 years =D makes sense valve right why is s1mple still allowed to play when he literally did the excact opposite by ensuring he would win lol how does this shit make sense. rip steel and brax fuck u volvo
2016-01-06 06:51
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3 replies
#1239
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
because volvo is afraid of soviet kgb hackers and thats why they dont touch s1mple subject.
2016-01-06 11:52
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2 replies
thank mr friberg
2016-01-07 17:15
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1 reply
#1654
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
np cLy
2016-01-07 20:00
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wrecking kids lives when valve makes millions everyday from market scamming everyone. fucking hilarious.
2016-01-06 06:52
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#1013
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada x00x
Im glad, and grats to valve for holding there ground on this, showing by example if u throw for skins, u will never play again, minus MM/FPL lolz RIP ( Steel , Swag (aka Brax ) and our entertainer Dazed .......rest in CSGO heaven
2016-01-06 06:52
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#1014
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
valve you are seriously fucked. These guys may have done something wrong but even fucking murderers and rapists have a length put on a sentence. what the fuck are you doing this for? There is NO competitive integrity when you introduce KNOWN OP AS FUCK guns and expect the pro scene to use them without any form of thorough testing. You are doing this out of spite and its so much more damaging to your rep to have your biggest markets hopes trashed. I feel so so bad for these guys who made a seriously shitty error which effects thousands of fans who wish to let them have a second chance. The same fans who you are apparently trying so hard to maintain the 'integrity' for. Have a look in the fucking mirror you shitty hypocrites and give the chance to the players THE SCENE WANTS THEM TO HAVE. FREE ALL OF IBP NOW!!!!!!!!! FREE ALL OF IBP NOW!!!!!!!!! FREE ALL OF IBP NOW!!!!!!!!! FREE ALL OF IBP NOW!!!!!!!!! FREE ALL OF IBP NOW!!!!!!!!!
2016-01-06 06:53
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they lost match intentionally to get some skins lol, its = to cheating in real sports. At last they are pro gamers, which means that they do have a salary and all required gaming devices. That fact's showed that all of them are greedy motherfuckers, wanted ez money.
2016-01-06 07:16
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6 replies
#1037
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
cheating in real sports = ban for a period of time. maybe learn about the world you live in?
2016-01-06 07:33
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4 replies
so by your words: GTR can bet all his money, inc house, car to trash match and lose it to get his x3 payback, then with tons of money and 1-3 yr ban sit at home, fuck some sluts, sniffing cocaine and he can return back after ban expires? H@H@H@H@H nt
2016-01-06 07:43
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3 replies
#1052
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
what happened to you as a child? do you need a hug?
2016-01-06 07:44
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2 replies
ok i understand your point, guys we got another ibp fanboi, say no more
2016-01-06 07:45
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1 reply
#1059
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
you are honestly in that special .0001% and on hltv, holy shite!
2016-01-06 07:57
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#1055
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada legenDz
athletes take steroids all the time to be better aka make more money but even in a sport like boxing where more likely potential chance to kill someone they still only get a temp ban, you offend enough times and that's a perma ban but here they set no rules on it, these are first time offenders and if you want to draw the line that it's a perma ban then let them off after a well deserved 1 year ban and now they know if that line is crossed again it's over for your cs career. You put money and gambling into your game and expect "kids" who have full control over taking advantage of it to just be disciplined enough to say no? if adults aren't disciplined enough then kids are guaranteed not to be so this was expected. you're ruining their dreams just to act tyranical and have complete control but these are the players the fans who put money into the game want to see play and see how far their potential and dreams can take them, they've done their dues now we want to see them play again.
2016-01-06 07:53
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#1051
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World cu1t
I feel like a lot of people who are new to cs don't know how it was like a year back. Cs got absolutely huge during 2015 and back then I can bet a lot of teams considered fixing cause you wouldn't make much from playing.
2016-01-06 07:44
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11 replies
#1057
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
correct, not only considered but actively did. A players union would fight for them (ibp) and give a fair voice. Valve are mental with how they have handled this coupled with the language they use top try and explain it... is laughable.
2016-01-06 07:56
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10 replies
#1073
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World cu1t
couldn't agree more
2016-01-06 08:29
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1 reply
#1075
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
what do we do?, i feel like something can and should be done..
2016-01-06 08:30
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#1102
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
I think iBP didn't even get a salary considering all the events they went to including the international ones, which was a total of 3 (Katowice, Cologne and Dreamhack 2014)
2016-01-06 09:05
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7 replies
#1110
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
It was a prehistoric time for the sport even though only 1 year ago. They are being held accountable as if it was a fully fledged pro sport with real accountability for rule sets from the event organisers. Funny that the 'competitive integrity' banner is subjectively applied where convenient but things like hour long transmissions breaks (in between every map) or shit sound quality or even UN sound proof booths set up for 4 cod players are used. Where the fuck is the consistency?. Do they think these oversights do not challenge the integrity they so sought after?. I guess banning a few players makes it all balanced in their eyes. Man i'd love a chat with whoever had the final say just to see what they feel will come of this all.
2016-01-06 09:17
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6 replies
#1130
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
Valve is very inconsistent and they say that they want to keep CSGO entertainment at the highest level. Well it took them a long ass time for them to even protect people's account from getting hacked because ever since they started adding skin, the vulnerability and security exploits in Steam began popping up alot. Even in Valve sponsored tournaments, there are tons of delays and whatnot. Valve reminds me of how the US government works, do tons of shitty thins, like after 2013, adding the CZ in 2014 and then make a huge deal when iBP threw and do a perma ban one year later with no "trial" or anything to keep the majority of communities blind. If they actually cared about the game, they'd pool more money into the tournaments they have/sponsor. Nope, people are content now so why squander all their profit.
2016-01-06 09:38
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5 replies
#1135
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
yeah def man they seem to be very much how you explained them to be. It just really makes me upset that people are always at the mercy of these companies that are funnily enough run by ppl who prob wouldnt like to be treated this way had the shoe been on the other foot.
2016-01-06 09:43
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4 replies
#1144
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
Most people on here have something personal against these players, especially Dazed and Steel just because they appear to be toxic on stream doesn't mean they actually are.
2016-01-06 09:58
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3 replies
#1147
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
then they can rule the world on a subjective whim. Seems to be the flavour of the day. valve + retard keyboard warriors> logic,reason, heart.
2016-01-06 09:59
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2 replies
#1152
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
Explains why CSGO has become a run-and-gun meta.
2016-01-06 10:03
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1 reply
#1154
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
yes it does :( unfortunately.
2016-01-06 10:05
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#1094
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia kTw0
You make some good points, but as steel said in a VOD the community is split 50/50 and valve cant please everyone, so therefore they decided to make a statement to further discourage the possibility of match-fixing.
2016-01-06 08:49
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1 reply
#1114
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
yes you are right.. the scene is def split.. I think with everyone experiencing the ban with the players (being some of our favourite streamers), with seeing how long a year really is in isolation from something they are so good at and have spent such time on, coupled with all the income and competitive drive lost along the way... do you really think these guys or any of their fans would entertain match fixing in the future?. I feel valve would benefit more from having these guys help lead and develop the younger players coming into the competitive scene about the rights and wrongs and ease of sitting at home behind a screen and thinking what you are doing is always ok. They have been through a lot and would be great ambassadors in helping even rehabilitate habitual cheating and lying in the sport. I feel to just shun them forever is a really disgusting way to deal with it all and no more short sighted than the problem that started it all.
2016-01-06 09:28
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Nice
2016-01-06 06:55
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#1018
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Macau allrounder
byebye noobs ! perfect !
2016-01-06 06:57
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#1019
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States alterbyme
Should always trust in valve's "CSGO team" to never make the right decision.
2016-01-06 06:57
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RIP NA cs
2016-01-06 06:58
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#1021
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World quavo75
Rip guys..
2016-01-06 06:59
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#1022
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany LANDWHALE
Fuck valve! 1. It wasn't illegal back then 2. 1 year is enough because of that 3. Skadoodle was also in on it but can continue like nothing happened 4. NA CS has taken a huge blow just because valve wants their skin money
2016-01-06 06:59
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2 replies
#1039
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
STOLENNN1 | 
Italy stolennn1
1. It's not illegal now, it's a bannable offense. 2. Maybe or maybe not 3. 2 4. Shit happens, others will rise.
2016-01-06 07:37
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1 reply
#1062
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany LANDWHALE
As you can see, shit all rose up in NA since they got banned :P
2016-01-06 08:08
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#1023
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States mattypoo
The same guys that gave us the R8 and stat trak music kits make these decision guys. Think about it..
2016-01-06 07:00
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2 replies
#1028
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
so disappointing.
2016-01-06 07:09
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#1340
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
aizy | 
World icyprinc3
+1
2016-01-06 13:58
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H@H@H@H fuck you Dazed fuck you Steel fuck you crying redhead swag you will never be unbanned PRAISE YOUR VALVE! edit: Your fucking lucky thing throwers, that Valve didnt send it to the court :DDDDDDDD
2016-01-06 07:18
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1 reply
#1041
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
you are retarded :) its ok, you wont understand, but you REALLY are :)
2016-01-06 07:38
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#1030
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kennyS | 
World DS1337
WELL DESERVED
2016-01-06 07:14
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#1034
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark metoN
whyyy
2016-01-06 07:23
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#1040
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States groWthoughT
Bull.
2016-01-06 07:38
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#1042
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Argentina MAXEE
RiP NA
2016-01-06 07:39
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#1043
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World byaj
rip swag
2016-01-06 07:40
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#1044
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada n00ge
suck a dink valve you scumbags
2016-01-06 07:40
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1 reply
?
2016-01-06 08:32
0
#1045
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden darealmvp
ayy lmao
2016-01-06 07:41
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Mixed feelings about this. On one hand, what they did was completely wrong. They cashed out on thousands of dollars worth of skins, and freely took people's money. Call it cheating, call it fraud, it is both of those things and they deserved a punishment. At the same time, a lifetime ban? No one deserves that harsh of a penalty. Valve has no idea that match fixing happens all the time. They have no way to control it, no way to prove it, and no way to prevent it. There are too many gambling sites out there and to many professional games happening throughout the year. TLDR; harsh punishment for something so many other players have done in the past. They deserve a punishment but wow, permanent...really Valve?
2016-01-06 07:42
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2 replies
#1065
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Switzerland CHEDEL
cheating in the game is more valuable since you only got 2 years ban.
2016-01-06 08:11
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#1069
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World po0ty
The only thing that bothers me is the fact before their ban there was absolutely no guidelines regarding betting or penalties coming from Valve to the community. Match fixing is definitely egregious but it doesnt seem to be fair to ban for life.
2016-01-06 08:19
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#1050
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany csgollo
fuck this shit, its not fair
2016-01-06 07:44
0
Yeah! GJ, Valve, i love you! XDDD nokappa
2016-01-06 08:00
0
RIP
2016-01-06 08:08
0
#1063
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Ozzef
after all these topic :) finally it's over :) i'm glad they are ban
2016-01-06 08:08
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#1068
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Luxembourg alex24
yup finally it`s over stop with the freeswag and unban ibp threads ban 4 life confirmed !!!!!!!!!!!
2016-01-06 08:18
0
#1071
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World mukas17
Deserved.
2016-01-06 08:21
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#1072
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GuardiaN | 
Sweden kvNr
please add skadoodle, fxyo, gmx & every single team that plays on dingit to the pile, every single matchfixer deserve to be banned.
2016-01-06 08:23
0
#1074
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland fri3nd
who cares, they made a choice, they have the consequences
2016-01-06 08:30
0
#1076
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
finally ggwp
2016-01-06 08:32
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#1079
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Indonesia watdepakkk
Stupid valve
2016-01-06 08:35
0
Very nice decision by valve.
2016-01-06 08:36
0
#1082
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Boombl4 | 
Europe forisai
ban all the others then.. fucking valve
2016-01-06 08:36
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Valve is a fucking lazy dogshit shitstain. Fucking taking forever to confirm their indefinite ban because they're too busy jerking off to the money they earned from skins. They also don't dwell on this problem too much because it may ruin the "reputation" of the game when others learn about this throw.
2016-01-06 08:37
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#1088
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Japan tenshi
Shame, shame... But there is a silver lining. Valve are well known idiots who would rather pump their money to Dota instead of CS, so for the foreseeable future the price money in majors might very well be "just" 250k. On the other hand there is an increased amount of events and leagues not sponsored by Valve that offer more money than Valve majors do. And since Valve doesn't really care if ex-iBP is playing on other events, they can attend those. It's also funny how Ska isn't banned as well.
2016-01-06 08:44
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#1090
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe pNshr666
JUSTICE SERVED
2016-01-06 08:45
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#1095
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United Kingdom peaks
Valve please......
2016-01-06 08:50
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#1100
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland Mannix
can't wait for steel's another crying video or message on his fp page LOL
2016-01-06 08:55
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#1101
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
tabseN | 
Germany expectedfrom
valve just retarded shit org, integrety of the game..yeh yeh.. maybe give the game to developers who are capable. fucking annoys the shit out of me that they always do shit, shit shit, but talk about keeping the fans of the game happy. willingness to exploit their fans’ faith in the integrity of the sport. every top team should be banned then and most top players aswell. also valve never communicates anything, but decided to communicate this? They are so fucking stupid its unbelievable
2016-01-06 08:58
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3 replies
#1108
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark zip-_-
Dont forget that Hltv.org accounts for less than 0.1% of the users on steam, with its sub 100.000 users, compared to 140 million+ active steam accounts. I for one love Valve, especially for this decision. :-)
2016-01-06 09:12
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1 reply
#1115
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
tabseN | 
Germany expectedfrom
and 140 million are not playing csgo bro, so what are you trying to tell me here. Its not even about the decision, its fine to keep them banned, but the reasoning and that they ignore all other teams missteps, cheating, throwing and act like they only want csgo players to be happy is bs. With the 140million to 100k difference you are going at the fact that hltv is not the primary factor for valve decision, but the whole playerbase which is much bigger. i get that. But the casual players and people who never visit hltv or watch any competitive matches dont care about the ibp bans, the pro scene, throwing or a well balanced game etc at all, so how can they be in the reasoning for the bans
2016-01-06 09:25
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#1109
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany Skrillo
it's ok man, i don't even like this game anymore, congrats v0lv0 devs. I remember 1.6 times when i was addicted
2016-01-06 09:12
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#1103
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom butchR
gj Valve ! I only feel bad about swag. He needs to change his name and needs to get a face transplant and gg rek shit :D
2016-01-06 09:03
0
Lots of skin hungry kids in here
2016-01-06 09:04
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#1105
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Russia hailydaking
csgo scene in america so low without steel and swag :(
2016-01-06 09:05
0
#1106
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark zip-_-
Thanks Valve ! :-)
2016-01-06 09:09
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vavle sets a perfect example so theirs no match fixing in the future. RESPECT get fucked IBP!!!
2016-01-06 09:09
0
feelsbadman. they are good people who deserve another chance
2016-01-06 09:18
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1 reply
#1113
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Iceland miga2h
shut up retarded 13 y/o murica
2016-01-06 09:21
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Vuck Falve
2016-01-06 09:26
0
Fucking unprofessional by valve to perma ban the best some of the smartest and best players of NA, ridiculous
2016-01-06 09:26
0
4 replies
#1186
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
How is banning people that fixed matches in any way "unprofessional" ? If you got caught fixing a football match IRL you would almost certainly face prosecution. (bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27939919)
2016-01-06 10:44
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3 replies
But that is IRL and those players have a steady income, while The IBP players got nothing in salary. Now today almost all teams that is decent has salary. Valve also has nothing to do with csgolounge and if they would like to have, they should've made some rules for match fixing
2016-01-06 12:07
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2 replies
#1272
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
dv | 
United Kingdom dv-_-
But that is IRL And playing CS isn't? This is their job, in the real world, it isn't just some fucking dream.. The IBP players got nothing in salary. They almost certainly did get a salary before they threw the game. They were inspired only by greed, and shown a huge disregard for the competitive nature of the game, along with their fans money as it was no doubt their fans that lost the most of the money due to betting on them to win. they should've made some rules for match fixing Match fixing is obviously against the rules, it completely destroys the integrity of the games. You can't honestly think that all of the iBP players thought it was perfectly OK to fix matches for their own gain?
2016-01-06 12:24
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1 reply
They had no saleries at all, only thing that was covered was the travel expenses and all they got was money they won in tournaments. Every player has already confirmed that lack of motivation and no saleries was one of the main reasons that they threw
2016-01-06 15:14
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#1118
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland Juho4466
rekt.ibp
2016-01-06 09:27
0
#1119
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Estonia rYm
well done ;) rip swag
2016-01-06 09:28
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#1122
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Greece eVo-kuzco
gg volvo
2016-01-06 09:33
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#1123
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Azerbaijan Talley
Well deserved.
2016-01-06 09:33
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#1125
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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North America LORD MASTER KING
Kinda shitty considering Valve kind of brought this upon themselves by adding skins in the first place. Now the shit has gotten out of hand to the point where these players are throwing matches for skins and not to mention all the gambling sites that it generated. Valve is the one who should be perma-banned.
2016-01-06 09:34
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#1127
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium maxwellz
They should be happy to not getting a fine.
2016-01-06 09:36
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I dont get it why so much people are pissed of. I think its a good decision. Valve shows that they sometimes really standy for what they said
2016-01-06 09:37
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#1129
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Czech Republic SaltyTears
Ye and gmx new team joined dude with aimbot and wallhack, already vac banned on one account. He had both faceit accounts banned, now the ban is lifted again, but he will be banned again. :D noway that they cannot know that the dude is cheating
2016-01-06 09:37
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#1131
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
FalleN | 
African Union a2wai
Typical Valve, making decisions without community opinion. I think they have one more chance, cause they know that they can get after another match fixing.
2016-01-06 09:38
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#1133
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Lithuania RTJ
I think cs scene will survive without couple of NA players, not a big deal. Those players from ibp were relevant within NA only anyway.
2016-01-06 09:39
0
1 reply
RiP NA scene
2016-01-06 09:49
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#1137
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Wasdlk
If you play with fire, you might get burned. And what a burn...*tssssss*
2016-01-06 09:52
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#1140
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
pyth | 
Kuwait D0oaxD
rip in skins
2016-01-06 09:54
0
dont really care tbh.. but i am a bit surprised I feel Valve could've just gave them a warning or + another year to their ban this time, when there wasn't official rule set yet. For future they could've just say that match fixing will be causing a permanent ban from now on. I know they did wrong, i know they knew they did wrong when they did it, but still, I get a weird feeling that Valve once again miss uses their authority and power and fails solve this situation with true wisdom. Cant help but feel that Valve took the easy way out here (once again) instead of really getting into fighting against match fixing. Its the same kind of act they do with cheating. Sure they give bans, but they fail to really work VAC and create security to the scene. It's causing a lot of questioning and hate in the scene. The easy way out is trying to control with fear instead acknowledging the problem and working through it themselves. The opinions would probably be split whatever Valve would do but I think grace is the more mature way to go. Sad day for the community.
2016-01-06 10:06
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9 replies
#1159
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
"Valve once again miss uses their authority" lmfao it's their game, they own all the rights. + the community doesn't need throwing teams. good day for the com
2016-01-06 10:11
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6 replies
their authority, meaning its theirs, meaning its their game, meaning they still can misuse what they have = authority. +community doesn't need throwing teams = agreed but IMO this is still an overkill. have a nice day "laughing your fucking ass out", sir.
2016-01-06 10:29
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5 replies
#1174
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
if you steal stuff at work you most likely get fired.
2016-01-06 10:31
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3 replies
thanks for stating the obvious. Again. They didn't work for Valve tho, and there was not such rule set. It's like you have a profession that you studied 5-7 years, you steal at your work and get banned from working any area of what you studied. It's harsh (read following sentence slowly) in my opinion.
2016-01-06 10:40
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2 replies
#1218
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil hugoooo
They were not prohibited to play CS forever, or even attend tournaments, they were just banned by Valve.
2016-01-06 11:20
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1 reply
Yea, in cs that means not banned from working but banned from getting paid. "Hey, you can always do volunteer work." "Just banned by Valve." =D Wouldn't say it that lightly considering what it means for these players. And I'm not even totally against this. It's just how I feel. No need to argue here.
2016-01-06 13:01
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#1525
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil OliLay
youtube.com/watch?v=DwjuxMcErJs This came to my mind. :D
2016-01-06 19:53
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#1180
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ukraine *2Drake
grace, maturity and wisdom (as well as intelligence) are, unfortunately, not the concepts that are applicable to Valve CS department.
2016-01-06 10:40
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1 reply
So it seems.. so it seems..
2016-01-06 10:43
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#1146
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Belgium FnX^
1 or 2 years would be more then enough for this imo , basicly banning these players for life is like taking there job away permanently. it's to much & a rash decision by valve i feel. Sadly they don't feel this way & they could make this alot better in my opinion.
2016-01-06 09:57
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12 replies
#1158
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
nt steel
2016-01-06 10:09
0
11 replies
#1160
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Belgium FnX^
not really mate..
2016-01-06 10:12
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10 replies
#1161
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
if you steal stuff at work you most likely get fired. pls wake up. I guess you guys are still sitting in school having a funny day.
2016-01-06 10:14
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9 replies
#1164
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Belgium FnX^
wake the hell up mate , this punishment is way to hard for them ,they are still insanely skilled players.And it's a joke that they get perma banned for it since no1 ever said anything back then on the punishment for throwing the game.
2016-01-06 10:20
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8 replies
#1166
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
i'm awake. you should start using your brain. have a nice day
2016-01-06 10:21
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#1168
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia ethicsw0w
Yes, but do you have any clue how much money their fans lost on that game? I feel like swag is still quite liked in the community and he should start streaming to continue his career that way.
2016-01-06 10:23
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2 replies
#1179
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
no, I don't know about the amount + I don't care because I don't bet. what makes me angry is the fact that skins+betting have ruined this community and the game itself. there was no ddos at 1.6 or css. everyone played at it's best because it was about winning, not skins you could get if you lose on purpose
2016-01-06 10:43
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1 reply
#1187
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia ethicsw0w
I do not bet either, In fact I don't even follow the scene at all anymore. However, the skin/betting/trading stuff made this game. It wouldn't be close to as poplular as it is today with out it.
2016-01-06 10:46
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#1170
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
England azrl
Idd, because they've dedicated a lot of time to professional gaming and who knows maybe even stopped studying, etc.. what do they do now?
2016-01-06 10:23
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3 replies
#1177
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
they can still play at non valve events. if you went to jail you can still get work afterwards. it will be crap, but that's your own fault.
2016-01-06 10:37
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2 replies
#1230
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Belgium FnX^
so they play non valve events , that's like the best tournament they can have that's where u have ur proving ground mate , i feel ur way to harsh on them ; like u never made a mistake in ur life ..
2016-01-06 11:36
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1 reply
#1240
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
it's not about me
2016-01-06 11:53
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#1148
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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World smash143
swag :(
2016-01-06 09:59
0
+1 n1ce
2016-01-06 10:03
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#1153
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Lithuania Kooligan
All because of some shitty skins damn... :(
2016-01-06 10:04
0
1 reply
#1162
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Algeria huanson
skins = $$$
2016-01-06 10:16
0
#1155
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Poludei
Ez noobs gg
2016-01-06 10:05
0
#1157
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine TheUnity
Ez ban for Piter
2016-01-06 10:08
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#1165
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia ethicsw0w
Nice, well deserved. However, I still feel sorry for swag, since he's so young and he wasn't the one bringing up the idea.
2016-01-06 10:21
0
#1169
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway b1tches
Good news
2016-01-06 10:23
0
4 replies
#1219
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland sajlent
good? You are retarded The punishment is too high for what they did, volvo again at their best - making stupid decisions
2016-01-06 11:20
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3 replies
#1242
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
if you steal stuff at work you most likely get fired.
2016-01-06 11:54
0
2 replies
#1344
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland sajlent
but they didn't steal from valve they throwed for skins and $$
2016-01-06 14:02
0
1 reply
#1562
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
nt steel
2016-01-06 23:15
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#1171
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom jimak
WOW
2016-01-06 10:27
0
NICE VALVE for once , a really good decision ban whole revolte team too please & vp i hope they'll permaban the cheaters too from now on they should give the opportunity to the last IBP banned to be unbanned for 200k $ fine / player then every fixed match permabanned from 2016 to 2100
2016-01-06 10:34
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#1175
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia zerkcs
omg. rip my dream
2016-01-06 10:31
0
#1176
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Indonesia Alluminati
Thats insayyyn
2016-01-06 10:32
0
#1183
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World 5eu
nice
2016-01-06 10:42
0
#1189
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World alignnn
VOLVO can make only shit updates and post bad news.
2016-01-06 10:46
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#1191
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World dukkiiEaz
good, i am glad about this
2016-01-06 10:48
0
poor little brax
2016-01-06 10:54
0
#1195
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Switzerland samox
Yeee
2016-01-06 10:54
0
#1201
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland herbefa
RIP NA CS FOREVER
2016-01-06 11:03
0
#1202
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Hungary nistyhun
stealing/match fixing is against real life rules too. why the hell should they get second chance lol.
2016-01-06 11:04
0
#1203
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Clawing
don't care if they're banned, but pretty shitty to leave them in the dark for so long only to get permabanned.
2016-01-06 11:04
0
1 reply
#1205
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland Habanos
Agreed, especially the euro players who thought it was one year ban only
2016-01-06 11:08
0
#1204
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland Habanos
Hahaha gmx's revenge backfired hard, well deserved for the snitch
2016-01-06 11:07
0
#1206
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Brazil flytwNiP
oh valve do you think only ex-ibp deserve ban ? how many pro lose on purpose to win skins ?
2016-01-06 11:08
0
2 replies
#1211
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil hugoooo
Do you have any way to prove? Show the proof and Valve will ban them all.
2016-01-06 11:14
0
1 reply
vp and golden rule you know it? isnt this throw/fixing match?
2016-01-06 16:01
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#1209
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina huzinho
nice :D gj VALVE
2016-01-06 11:13
0
#1210
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland herbefa
rip dreamerinhos rip fxyo 1.17 rip best cs team america ever will create rip nice ppl isarip
2016-01-06 11:13
0
#1214
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland sajlent
The same guys that introduced retarded revolver are making stupid decisions again gg rip na scene
2016-01-06 11:15
0
#1216
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland herbefa
theres no way valve win more than lose in this, stupid shit
2016-01-06 11:20
0
#1221
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ukraine LeoLynx
#KappaProud
2016-01-06 11:21
0
good job volvo- others will fear the conequences
2016-01-06 11:28
0
#1226
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway ESSIN
great news!
2016-01-06 11:32
0
#1227
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
bsl | 
Brazil perkelele
Deserved :)
2016-01-06 11:33
0
so happy xddd
2016-01-06 11:33
0
gj volvo
2016-01-06 11:36
0
#1232
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
North America n0velt1z
piece of shit = valve #freeibp
2016-01-06 11:38
0
#1233
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Zeus | 
Ukraine byGOuSt
Another stupid decision from Valve... As always.
2016-01-06 11:40
0
#1234
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Russia Shokflow
get rekt iBP! ahahhaah gj VALVE
2016-01-06 11:42
0
Nice
2016-01-06 11:46
0
#1237
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe selbi
deserved !!
2016-01-06 11:47
0
#1241
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Europe t.o.p
[*]
2016-01-06 11:53
0
#1243
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
Good decision! Well Played Valve. Now ban ScreaM and Skadoodle for throwing but not taking skins and we clean all the match-fixing drama from past.
2016-01-06 11:55
0
#1244
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World truestory_
Rip dream3r
2016-01-06 11:55
0
#1245
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World oceandream
i honestly feel this is a bit harsh. i dont like dazed and steel and i am indifferent towards others but seriously even from a justice point of view this was too much. i have seen professional sportsmen fix matches, give info to bettors, use performancing enhancing drugs earn millions of dollars get caught red handed and then come back into the sport and play for their country after serving punishment. agreed punishment can be long, sometimes 5 years maybe even more but permanent ban was too much, honestly. like if they had been caught cheating in the game i would fully support and fight for permanent ban but this i feel was a bit over the top. i believe as a general principle in life everyone deserves a second chance. valve reconsider these bans.
2016-01-06 12:01
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2 replies
#1264
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Hungary pedaz
And because of those fixed length bans, others may consider its worth doing it for a certain amount of profit. So this ban is doing the best to eSports ( valve did the same in dota2 ), preventing it from becoming maffia territory ( overstatement ofc, but i think you get what i want to say ).
2016-01-06 12:16
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1 reply
#1288
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World oceandream
no they could have said anyone who does this in the future will be permanent banned. and no one would have considered it even. they could have even extended the punishment by 1 year. but permanent banned is retarded
2016-01-06 12:43
0
FeelsBadMan
2016-01-06 12:00
0
#1248
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Lithuania RTJ
next will be NIP - they were doing match fixing all year long.
2016-01-06 12:01
0
And flusha still walks the streets legally. FUCKING GG -.- idk should i cry or laugh?
2016-01-06 12:04
0
[*] NA last hope
2016-01-06 12:05
0
RIP NA :(
2016-01-06 12:05
0
#1256
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada remenis
didnt MyRevenge fix a match on csgl and just got there team banned from csgo lounge?...why arent they banned 4 life...fucking bullshit
2016-01-06 12:06
0
hahahaha poor NA :"D
2016-01-06 12:08
0
#1259
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Turkey J1T_T3R
let's go to #1337
2016-01-06 12:11
0
FUCK YES"!!!
2016-01-06 12:13
0
#1261
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Hungary pedaz
Huge thanks to Valve, honoring the trustworthy players with this move!
2016-01-06 12:13
0
#1263
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo
gg easy
2016-01-06 12:16
0
See you in another life, brother. RIP NA & LOST
2016-01-06 12:19
0
#1268
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland zetq
rip rip rip rip rip
2016-01-06 12:20
0
#1271
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark Krin
Good Job Valve. Made the right decision here.
2016-01-06 12:24
0
They have hold their punishment, didnt deserve for being permamently banned imo. One year is enough, they know they shouldnt did it. From now, people should be banned permamently.
2016-01-06 12:26
0
#1277
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
markeloff | 
Greece Light_GR
And what about OverWatch bans?
2016-01-06 12:29
0
#1279
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland FiskeN-
LIGHT a CANDLE for Swag and Steel;((. Rest are just thrash and yeah dazed is...
2016-01-06 12:31
0
#1280
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia teeem
what about protect this ugly game from cheaters ?
2016-01-06 12:31
0
#1284
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal Zedonp
Expected. GJ valve fuck these matchfixers. Time to say RIP C9 Now the best teams in america are from SA and a team with one of the best EU players NA=trash teams
2016-01-06 12:39
0
#1286
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain redsp
get rekt mekt lekt pekt
2016-01-06 12:41
0
Good job Valve. There is no place in CS:GO Proffesional Scene for people who throw matches, to steal their fans and other pepole's money.
2016-01-06 12:43
0
#1290
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland JmKz
It's just strange that after a year, valve now decides to say this. When ex-IBP threw their match they didn't have any idea of the consequences because there weren't any set rules yet. There were even many cases before this when some german teams were suspected of matchfixing but got off scot-free. There was even a case of VP members (pasha, neo and taz?) throwing for skins but they didn't get any punishment because they didn't receive their skins or something like that. Of course the ex-IBP deserved a ban of sorts for their actions but this is kinda ridiculous if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, having a permanent ban rule for this is great, but the case regarding ex-IBP has been dealt poorly, Epsilon too. I think their bans should be lifted.
2016-01-06 12:45
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4 replies
#1296
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia lukee.
lmfao match fixing is illegal in any kind of sports the vp situation wasnt a throw any team who throws a match for income deserve to pay the maximum price
2016-01-06 12:58
0
3 replies
Wait can you enlighten me of what happen with the VP thing?
2016-01-06 13:10
0
2 replies
#1311
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland JmKz
so I did some research: hltv.org/news/12476-csgolounge-on-bettin.. The game was basically played before hand and the bets came after wards when the players already knew the result of the game. So basically it wasn't a throw but still...
2016-01-06 13:18
0
1 reply
#1388
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal Zedonp
it wasn't matchfixing either. It was a csgo lounge and the tournament organisers fault. CSgo lounge for not verifying it and the organizers because they let the game get played sooner. Still no throw, the bets were open so they took advantage
2016-01-06 14:52
0
#1293
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland herbefa
like duud
2016-01-06 12:55
0
#1295
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil pedro77
gg swag
2016-01-06 12:57
0
#1301
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Croatia synzi
gj volvo jews, making money cause 15 year olds buy skins with moms credit card, and they eventually lose everything on betting
2016-01-06 13:02
0
2 replies
underaged kids shouldn't be able to gamble in the first place lol. this whole csgolounge business is shady and ridiculous as fuck.
2016-01-06 19:51
0
1 reply
#1558
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Croatia synzi
wouldn't be surprised if volvo was actually behind lounge and jackpot
2016-01-06 22:44
0
#1302
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World fanboy124a
where were you when NA cs was kill?
2016-01-06 13:02
0
Sad
2016-01-06 13:05
0
its over now
2016-01-06 13:06
0
now i would ask this for the last time how much ?
2016-01-06 13:11
0
i've been comin to this thread so much, it makes me feel relieve now thats justice has been done!!
2016-01-06 13:11
0
#1312
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland f0pZ
GOD VALVE
2016-01-06 13:20
0
#1315
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ecuador navistarix
[*] light a candle
2016-01-06 13:22
0
RIP IN PLANETICKETS
2016-01-06 13:23
0
#1317
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Other skaven
haha fokin rekt m8
2016-01-06 13:24
0
#1318
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain Ayrr
Sad but understandable. gg
2016-01-06 13:31
0
#1320
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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World Evil32167
each week 3-5 teams throw on csgolounge/egb, but Volvo ban best of the best. Thx volvo idiots. P.S: American CS is dead. No more top teams/top players there
2016-01-06 13:42
0
#1321
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands lexor
nt = ul, cya
2016-01-06 13:41
0
#1328
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World jayyyyg
GG mates, sad although Now on less throws inc
2016-01-06 13:50
0
2 replies
if you believe that you are a moron
2016-01-06 15:56
0
1 reply
#1578
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World jayyyyg
believe me ;) many will appear but less throws is for sure
2016-01-07 01:11
0
#1329
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States y0rk
Valve are savages. Dayuuuuuuuuuuum.
2016-01-06 13:51
0
#1331
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada xYzGaming
hmmmmm. yes. good my friends.
2016-01-06 13:51
0
not cool valve
2016-01-06 13:53
0
#1345
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France PropaNN
1337 posts inc edit : fak
2016-01-06 14:03
0
#1346
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway Madoc
bad news for the scene, its not like talents grows on trees.-
2016-01-06 14:03
0
2 replies
#1384
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal Zedonp
i think we can live without swag, besides this his a statement from valve saying they won't tolerate this shit.
2016-01-06 14:49
0
1 reply
#1431
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Norway Madoc
steel is a loss to, he was a person that did highten the level alot.
2016-01-06 16:04
0
#1350
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Japan raimiska
lololo almost 1337 comments
2016-01-06 14:04
0
latest rumours ibp guys looking for a time travel machine get fucked!!
2016-01-06 14:08
0
kei
2016-01-06 14:11
0
#1360
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland smellydeck
RIP STEEL
2016-01-06 14:17
0
#1361
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Switzerland adiii1H
RIP STEEL
2016-01-06 14:17
0
#1363
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden YeLLonEt
GOOD. The message on this must always be that it will have big consequences.
2016-01-06 14:22
0
#1370
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Halton | 
Spain akproxx
this is so sad :( is like life time in a jail
2016-01-06 14:33
0
#1372
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland subconsious
good job VALVE. Na fuckers :)
2016-01-06 14:34
0
1 reply
#1435
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland KnottKnott
get back to cleaning toilets poorlack.
2016-01-06 16:07
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#1374
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States Ragamuffin
Commenting on history, feel bad for swag, but glad that those other assholes are gone from the scene for good
2016-01-06 14:37
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#1379
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland jUiCERR
so sad for swag :( i cri evritaim
2016-01-06 14:46
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#1380
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Germany Hamsterdam25
Lifetime is hard. Everybody deserves a second chance
2016-01-06 14:47
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#1381
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World wims80
Why would you risk your DREAM for a few hundred dollars, that's so fucking dumb it's unbelievable
2016-01-06 14:47
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12 replies
#1389
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Netherlands rajino
at that time.. there was no penalty for doing it. now after 1 year of consideration of valve they made the new rule.
2016-01-06 14:53
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11 replies
how retarded are you if you dont know that throwing = perma ban? look at other sports look at dota
2016-01-06 18:11
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10 replies
#1530
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Netherlands rajino
ur calling me a retard? U do know people who play soccer or use dope at some other games gets banned for 1 or 2 years max. They earn 1000's of dollars, right?? This is about skins, and they had to 'think about a new rule' and that 'permban rule' took them 1 full year to consider.
2016-01-06 20:01
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9 replies
im not calling you a retard.. just asking if you have any common sense my hypocrite friend
2016-01-06 20:30
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1 reply
#1555
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Netherlands rajino
why is it hypocrite
2016-01-06 22:36
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#1600
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Germany Herp
2016-01-07 07:46
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6 replies
#1633
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Netherlands rajino
it states match(es)... so more then 2 games.... and thats about 10.000's of dollars. and fifa has a rule in the fifa book. this is about 1 match and a few skins... and they needed to make a new rule that took them 1 year.. see the difference?
2016-01-07 14:42
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5 replies
#1653
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany Herp
does it matter if a robber steals from a bank 1 dollar or 100.000 ? a brazilian already mentioned it the criminal offense is the same if you steal a loli or a expensive phone and you deserver the same sentence.
2016-01-07 19:55
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4 replies
#1677
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Netherlands rajino
thats not true.. u have to look at the facts... if someone has a list of criminal things he has done in the past, and steals a lolli (for example.) and the other guy steals a lolli, but has done nothing wrong in the past not even a speeding ticket.. would they deserve the exact same time/sentence?? for both men?? u think about that bro
2016-01-08 09:21
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3 replies
#1682
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany Herp
in most cases probably not. and what role does that play again when we talk about the match fixing case of fxyo or the ibp guys? no of them had a shady background from the past? so wtf?
2016-01-08 09:38
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2 replies
#1683
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Netherlands rajino
my point is, that there are certain facts which in this case, volvo did wrong. there was no rule in the volvo book when they did it. and now 1 year later they just make up a rule. that's not how the system works. first u think of the rule, then u start to punish. not the other way around. they banned them for 1 year, now 1 year later they banned them for life. thats 2 penalties in my eyes.. it doesn't work like that.
2016-01-08 10:24
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1 reply
#1692
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany Herp
dude in the US there is a law against match fixing. they could actually faced prision
2016-01-08 19:25
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#1383
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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World sergioff
RIP swag a great talent wasted...
2016-01-06 14:48
0
NICE VALVE! but RIP swag
2016-01-06 14:51
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#1390
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland rahhhh
GJ!
2016-01-06 14:53
0
RIP NA's Hope
2016-01-06 14:53
0
1 reply
#1394
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal Zedonp
NA's hope is s1mple in god like form.
2016-01-06 14:55
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#1393
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland lunesco
It shouldnt be perma ban
2016-01-06 14:54
0
Only siths deal in absolutes.
2016-01-06 15:01
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#1398
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovenia yung_voodoo
vuvla idiot
2016-01-06 15:03
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#1399
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Russia KygecHukx
GJ Valve
2016-01-06 15:03
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#1400
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Netherlands rajino
i think it's bullshit. new year and they start to make up a new rule.... it took them a full year to consider this. u cant make up a new rule 1 year later. a year ago there was no rule stated, so they didnt know they would get a perm ban. there were like 100 other teams who did the same thing and they dont get banned??? valve knoWs what im talking about
2016-01-06 15:07
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#1402
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland get_baited
lol bigger punishment than in a murder..for just getting couple hundred dollars or so..sure its not right but valve overkilled the punishment over a mile
2016-01-06 15:12
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#1404
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United States Warfororks
bad call
2016-01-06 15:13
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#1405
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World nitroom
nice.
2016-01-06 15:13
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#1406
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Czech Republic DaniDM
To all you people saying that ex-ibp should get unbanned because there was no rule about match fixing, guess what, there is an actual law in the US against fraud/fixing matches in competitions, so would you rather see your beloved Swag in jail? Because that could actually happen if Valve took this to court. And to those that would like to see VP banned, it was a mistake on Lounge's part and they were caught instantly, they didn't lie about it and they certainly didn't lose on purpose to get a few skins.
2016-01-06 15:14
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2 replies
#1595
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Krittamate
+1 fangays blame value but not their players so sad :[
2016-01-07 07:37
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#1599
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany Herp
valid point
2016-01-07 07:44
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#1408
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe winnie pooh
gj valve
2016-01-06 15:15
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#1411
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia millc0r
What about cheaters, Valve?
2016-01-06 15:17
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#1412
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland shiniox
Good decision
2016-01-06 15:23
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#1413
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
Still dont understand the logic tho. I personally dont care what happens with iBP but players like KQLY took Thousands of Dolla Dolla by using cheats in Majors etc from Valve and can just rebuy the game and continue playing? I think a throw should stop them from competing but cheaters shouldnt be allowed to rebuy the game. Simple as that.
2016-01-06 15:30
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14 replies
#1446
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia wormik
and how exactly would you secure any VAC banned player from buying the game again? Kuukli can play the game on another account, that's for sure, but he'll never be able to compete in standard leagues and cups again.
2016-01-06 16:29
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13 replies
#1557
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
Hardware bans.
2016-01-06 22:42
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12 replies
#1589
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia wormik
what if someone's sharing a computer with his sibling, who's also playing CS? Kuukli can buy a whole new hardware for the money he has won.
2016-01-07 04:58
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11 replies
#1590
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
Well if he buys new hardware then go ahead be my guest. IpBans should also be implemented causing cheaters to use VPNs only aswell as Hardware bans. There is a lot of people who wont get a new ip and new computer just to play CSGO. Plus instead of 13euro your costing someone up to 2000 etc depending on what PC they build
2016-01-07 05:17
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10 replies
#1609
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia wormik
Please answer my first question, "what if someone's sharing a computer with his sibling, who's also playing CS?"
2016-01-07 09:35
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9 replies
#1645
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
Then who cares? The siblings fault for cheating. If one sibling is cheating on the computer the other will too most likely considering the cheat is sitting there at no cost and can be used.
2016-01-07 18:29
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8 replies
#1689
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia wormik
this explanation is stupid, you can't ban someone just because he'll "most likely" cheat as well as his sibling
2016-01-08 15:08
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7 replies
#1690
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
No. You can ban someone who cheated. You think anybody will give a fuck if his sibling got banned aswell? No cos a cheater got banned and its one less retard to worry about.
2016-01-08 17:31
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6 replies
#1695
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia wormik
1 less retard to worry about and 1 innocent person banned, as I wrote before, your logic is stupid
2016-01-08 21:15
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5 replies
#1696
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
Nothing to do with being innocent. He shouldnt allow his brother to cheat on his account or his computer. ban the computer.
2016-01-08 21:19
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4 replies
#1701
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia wormik
I'm not sure whether you're a troll or simply retared
2016-01-09 01:21
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3 replies
#1702
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
Im guessing you play on your brothers computer?
2016-01-09 01:22
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2 replies
#1705
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Slovakia wormik
yeah, definitely a troll :)
2016-01-09 02:58
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1 reply
#1706
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden tudewoody
yeah, Definitely a third worlder.
2016-01-09 03:12
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Valve = Trolls By giving ban 1 year ban in January 2015 Valve gave "chance" to iBP (and others) to return to big scene after some time. I believe iBP worked really hard on their tactics and performance, but now they all should forget about biggest tournament. Troll hard - go pro!
2016-01-06 15:30
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#1420
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland cdigitus
FeelsBadMan. Valve some time ago nerfed first shot accuracy and ADAD movement because of ScreaM, then they nerfed AWP because of Kennys and now they give ex-iBP permament ban because SWAG was hope of NA.
2016-01-06 15:52
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#1421
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands MSB"
Fuckyou Valve, ruining games for people is their mainjob i guess.
2016-01-06 15:56
0
#1425
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States SILHOUTTE
rip dboorN
2016-01-06 15:58
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#1433
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland zetq
no chance
2016-01-06 16:07
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#1434
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Spain rezpekfull
rip fxy0
2016-01-06 16:07
0
#1441
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany n4sK
I have no words for the hate I feel towards Valve right now. This is beyond stupid. Mistakes were made, but a life time ban is fkn unbelievable. I don't know what to say really..Just feeling bad for the iBP guys, especaially Swag.
2016-01-06 16:24
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11 replies
#1444
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom !Subby
you fucking joking?!??! they ripped off, Stole, conned loads of people out of skins/money. fuck them. they're lucky that all that got!
2016-01-06 16:28
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10 replies
#1450
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany n4sK
So if you steal money from someone on the street even if its thousands of dollars (way mor than iBP received) you going to get excluded from society? Come on there wasn't even a rule about it! Even people who commit way worse crimes in Real life get a second chance. People get send to prison for life times and yet other people commit the same crime regardless of the punishment. I really don't see a point in the ban being so long and hard. Don't get me wrong on this I really don't get the people bashing on them one year after...
2016-01-06 16:33
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9 replies
#1458
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India Gandhii4
They didn't get excluded from society. They were not even banned from playing or streaming for god sake. Why people compare this to prison sentence?
2016-01-06 16:43
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4 replies
#1463
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany n4sK
Learn to read. Wow really? What a consolation. What should you compare it to other than that?
2016-01-06 16:47
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3 replies
#1465
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India Gandhii4
Ok here is my comparison. There's a circus in town and you go see it. When you are there you steal a monkey. Circus director finds out and says you are never again allowed to come see this circus! You get lifetime ban. You did not go to jail, you just got banned by this private business.
2016-01-06 16:50
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2 replies
#1476
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany n4sK
Nice try, I would actually agree. But they did not they steal an animal, they stole money (or skins which is kinda they same in the end), so that's the first point there is to make. This is money being stolen yes but not a harm to a human being or animal. In any give case there is the need to consider this. Don't you give out a second chance? Basically every criminal (yes there were criminals I admit) has a second chance in an educated country (don't know about India :D ). As mentioned above even murderer get a second chance if they show repentance and are willing to do work for the community and so on (which steel, dazed etc. even mentioned they are willing to do).
2016-01-06 17:11
0
I lol'ed
2016-01-06 17:12
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#1491
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom !Subby
errr they pocketed like $10000 each! and of course there are worse crimes. so lets get this straight, according to you, if anyone commits a crime that's not on the same level as murder... then what's the point in them going to prison??!? seems legit.
2016-01-06 17:50
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3 replies
#1494
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany n4sK
You got me wrong there. I fully support the ban of 1 year. I do not agree on players left unknowing about their future. Also banning the players for additional year or 2 would seem fair and punishment enough. A liflong ban without any chance of getting back or a second chance is ridiculous. They were the first to actually commit the crime were no rule was ever made about. I don't know for sure how much every player received but anyways. I don't know really know what you trying to say with your last sentence tbh so...
2016-01-06 17:57
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2 replies
#1614
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom !Subby
maybe... however, there's so much money being put into these tournaments now and to CS:GO in general that chancers will be plentiful. Valve needed to make a stand on it. shame it was those players really as I did respect them and they were great for the scene. but bans can't be cheery picked.
2016-01-07 11:53
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1 reply
#1617
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany n4sK
Once again you're right on what you say. Might as well end the discussion here, we're not progressing anymore ;) Cheers man In hltv manner: /closed /reported /ban /uninstall
2016-01-07 12:24
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#1442
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland camarpl
I knew this would happen, it's not about what's right or wrong, it's about the fact that lifting bans would mean more work for Valve in the future and they hate working
2016-01-06 16:24
0
...really? Why Valve didnt give them one more chance.. I'm really dissapointed.
2016-01-06 16:29
0
#1447
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Tunisia FaresChahed
why would they do this for some shitty skins skins destroyed the game fucking valve and blaming players for that
2016-01-06 16:29
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1 reply
the players actually fucked themselves when they decided to throw the game and bet on multiple accs, they had it coming, get fucked NA
2016-01-06 21:02
0
#1451
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Denmark Mth
Perma ban cheaters as well. Thanks.
2016-01-06 16:34
0
#1453
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands Roachie
Vuck Falve
2016-01-06 16:37
0
#1459
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Spain rezpekfull
who cares about swag #FreeDazed
2016-01-06 16:44
0
#1461
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Brazil JNg
gj valve
2016-01-06 16:45
0
deserved
2016-01-06 16:49
0
#1466
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden theLimpo
So Valve doesn't want Competition in their game?! God dammit! WHY VALVE!? WHY!!???
2016-01-06 16:50
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1 reply
they already have the competition in eu. but it was dumb to do that anyways since na fags had some players to compete with eu but they don't at all
2016-01-06 16:56
0
#1469
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden salvat0re
so now every single tournament will be rip NA just eu for life!!!! GG valve
2016-01-06 16:55
0
1 reply
#1473
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden alcher
Liquid m8, Liquid
2016-01-06 17:01
0
#1472
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Montenegro jackALL
This isnt justice, this is valve being lazy, one big punishment to deter the others. I think matches are being thrown in the dingit cup on a weekly basis but who gives a fuck, as long as someones salty ex doesnt want to fuck you over no one ever gets caught, nothing even gets investigated by Valve, yeah im sure they're real scared by all this.
2016-01-06 16:58
0
#1474
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belarus lihoz0r
gaben brain dead
2016-01-06 17:02
0
#1479
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
FalleN | 
World Vechnyp
should have banned whole polish csgo scene instead, and flamie for throwing against unnamed
2016-01-06 17:22
0
#1481
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland herbefa
keep posting here so it gets the most replies
2016-01-06 17:24
0
#1484
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom jimak
Sad to see the end of steel, dazed and swag. Been fans of them all since I started CS over 8 years ago... From the sounds of it, Ska is one lucky boy! This honestly sucks, as much as I believe they're idiots for ever getting involved in such stupidity.
2016-01-06 17:32
0
#1486
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Azatis
More permenant bans please ... If these events werent about e-sports and were normal sports , those people might have been in jail by now. So please people , getting upset because of a permanent ban ! What kind of logic is this ? Gogo Valve , more bans please.
2016-01-06 17:43
0
#1488
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Striker | 
Switzerland gaxen
Good job Valve <3
2016-01-06 17:45
0
#1489
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
North America [unknown]
deserved, n1 valve
2016-01-06 17:47
0
#1490
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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France rsi_rise
GG Valve
2016-01-06 17:49
0
so many mad na kids ayy
2016-01-06 17:53
0
#1493
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Iran JKWoWiaN
Nice Valve
2016-01-06 17:55
0
#1497
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France JPK_
What happens if i loose a mm match on purpose ? No one fucking cares. What happens if a pro looses a match on purpose ? Lifetime ban. Something seems wrong.
2016-01-06 18:14
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9 replies
#1500
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal bruxo420
that logic tho. what you win if you win/lose on pourpose MM -> nothing what you win if you win/lose a pro game on pouropose -> sponsors get pissed, fans lose skins, they win money, its imoral, etc...
2016-01-06 18:20
0
#1501
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo
retard detected.
2016-01-06 18:24
0
#1505
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
There is something wrong with your brain. If you loose a mm match on purpose you might be overwatch banned if you griefing. But there is 2 big differences between pro's and you. They got paid to play good and win match and pro's matches are on betting websites where community place bets with $$$ in skins. Lets say there is Championship league match in groupstage and Olympic lion won 5 out of 6 matches and the last one vs worst team in group they decide to all the time lay on grass and laugh and the match will finish 0-10. Should they be punished when people on whole world do bets on football and players are disrespectful to opponents,fans and whole fifa. OFC they have to be punished hard so other people would not think about doing it. And your argument would be "But when i play on stadium between friends and we lose on purpose and no one fucking cares" Just how braindead you have to be to not understand that the players did bad,cheated on community to get money for free that someone had to work hard to earn and they have to be punished hard for that so other people would not try to do it when they know that if they got caught they will be done in cs.
2016-01-06 18:41
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5 replies
#1662
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
Nope you are wrong. iBP players didn't even have a salary. All the money they earned were from tourney prizes.
2016-01-08 00:00
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4 replies
#1665
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
Murica Facepalm But do you know the drama is not only about IBP,but also Epsilon players mr wannabe smart? And yes they did not get paid salary,but they did get paid equipment and travels.
2016-01-08 00:35
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3 replies
#1666
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States gotrice541
Also are you stupid that prior to the iBP and Epsilon bans, alot of tier 3-4 EU teams were throwing matches yet Valve does not do anything about it until tier 1-2 did something? Valve is inconsistent. Proves how some EU dipshits are dumb and they fucking LIVE in the EU and don't know shit like this. You don't follow the fucking CS scene at all. You're clueless. Also, travel expenses should already BE paid if you're going to get a professional gaming team. That's not a salary expense and is never included in a salary expense. The iBP can't spend or physically obtain those money so they only received what they won. Shows how much you know about basic financing.
2016-01-08 01:10
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2 replies
#1668
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
Wow you are srsly retarded murican. We are talking about this 2 specific team and you come with tier 3-4 teams argument xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD "Proves how some EU dipshits are dumb and they fucking LIVE in the EU and don't know shit like this. You don't follow the fucking CS scene at all. You're clueless." Its even more funny.Changing subject (yes its about ibp,epsilon NOT about tier3-4 teams because this tier3-4 teams did not get perma banned from valve sponsored tournaments.) "Also, travel expenses should already BE paid if you're going to get a professional gaming team." Yes it should be paid but its not becuase ibp players agreed on contract that they will have all travel expanses paid and not get salary. Btw we are talking about REALITY/PAST(How it is/was) not how it should be. "That's not a salary expense and is never included in a salary expense. The iBP can't spend or physically obtain those money so they only received what they won. Shows how much you know about basic financing." HAHAHA! I just said "They did not get paid salary but they did get paid equipment and travel expense" and you still trying to prove that they did not get salary. Maybe you have no clue about it but getting paid is not always getting salary(money). For example you can get paid for work in devices if you work as writer on esport websites. In your logic writer worked for free because he did not get physical money. Srsly if you are really 21 and you still have problems with understanding that you should get extra lessons for adults. Ahh and i forgot to add something in your logic. You know shit about cs sitting in NA while Tier8 EU poland team on polish lan did throw and lost maps so they get 2-1 score and better payouts from fanobet,but valve did nothing to them!"
2016-01-08 01:53
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#1669
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Malyz
You don't follow the fucking CS scene at all. You're clueless.Because you did not know about Tier8 EU. Its retarded how some Muricans sit in NA and have no clue about CS scene but still trying to prove something. Hltv should ban them.
2016-01-08 01:55
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#1598
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Germany Herp
what if i lose a friendly football match ... what if real m throws against bayern?
2016-01-07 07:41
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#1498
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France Sinj_Gracieux
Rekt gmx you fat shit.
2016-01-06 18:17
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#1504
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Netherlands JUNG13
They should now ban all of VP for betting on a match with a known outcome Can't see a fucking difference, they all wanted to get the profit
2016-01-06 18:37
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#1510
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Sweden highfield
Permanent ban is the sickest thing ive read!
2016-01-06 18:52
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VALVE UR so fukin low-- It almost makes me create a petition to find in real life who are the ones who decided it... No words. I didnt love those guys but... This is sad this decision..fukin low level valve is.. Always been...changed a game in 2012 i started playing at 2002. No words low professionals,cuz of those decisions u lose tons of players into ur cummunity fat ass. Sad. To be honest guys? I think the mass of players could do a change and help those guys
2016-01-06 19:03
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#1512
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Sweden mindeG
They deserved it.
2016-01-06 19:05
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1 reply
you're right m8
2016-01-06 19:06
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#1514
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
steel | 
Belarus Ruble
This is so wrong even irl you dont get life time ban! So volvo say cheating is ok but when you throw 1 match life time ban...
2016-01-06 19:12
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2 replies
#1518
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Sweden mindeG
irl you go to prison.
2016-01-06 19:21
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1 reply
#1523
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Greece Swishh_
this lol. kids are comparing CS bans with prison
2016-01-06 19:49
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#1515
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United Kingdom NipXe
They never knew the consequences of their actions, so a permanent ban is totally unfair. It's a given iBP would not risk their careers knowing the this would happen. From that point on, it should be clear any betting scandals result in a permanent ban. Not saying a word for a year, then saying is permanent is just being cruel and unprofessional. Can't imagine a sport society doing this, yet we want to be taken seriously as an e-sport...
2016-01-06 19:13
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4 replies
So Valve needs to come out and say, "If you steal thousands of dollars by match fixing, you're going to get permanent banned!" Think about what you're saying dude. If you steal money in the real world, you go to jail. If you were a professional sports player and bet against your own team, not only would you have the possibility of being put in jail, but also you'd be fined and banned from the league, forever.
2016-01-06 19:24
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2 replies
#1579
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steel | 
Belarus Ruble
You dont get life time ban from league irl.
2016-01-07 01:27
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1 reply
It's possible. There have been players that received this penalty. Even if they didn't get a life time penalty, they received a hefty fine and had to pay thousands of dollars. If anything, where's the fine?
2016-01-08 22:11
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#1520
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Bulgaria keyser_soze
There is no need of rules to know what is morally wrong in my opinion, also "they never knew the consequences" is a bullshit, for istance - tweaktown.com/news/43236/banned-american.. Also, the players involved in the matchfixing scandal pretty sure werent expecting just to go away like that without consequences if they got caught.
2016-01-06 19:27
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#1516
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Netherlands Rw.One
perma ban for pro's doing match fixing to keep the scene clean. While cheaters run around for months happy fragging.. THE LOGIC !
2016-01-06 19:16
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If someone walked into a bank and stole thousands of dollars and got caught doing it, to me it makes sense that the person shouldn't be allowed to step foot in a bank ever again. No matter how sorry they feel, the truth is, they took thousands of dollars from people. They lied about it for a long time until they were proven guilty. Everyone is saying "Skadoodle so lucky man" you know what, Skadoodle is the man for not stealing money even when he had the chance. So props to him. He deserves to play and be a part of one of the best NA teams. Also, these dudes aren't children, they're grown ass men who can make big boy decisions on their own. They don't need mommy to make their decisions or slap their hands.
2016-01-06 19:16
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#1521
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Malta Ralph124C41
Yeah! Fuck you scum. Don't commit suicide steel.
2016-01-06 19:29
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#1526
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Finland Sizz - <3 ex-LGB
Everybody with active braincells realized this ages ago
2016-01-06 19:57
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1 reply
even a stoner with damage braincells like me could see that comin :)
2016-01-06 21:00
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#1529
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Estonia temptation
Valve officialy confirmed that RUSSIA > USA Solo with legendary 322 plays International, Majors etc with Vega Squadron iBP can't visit any eveny and are permanent ban RIP
2016-01-06 20:00
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#1531
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World sk8eris
RIP c9 swag :(
2016-01-06 20:02
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#1533
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Fifflaren | 
Sweden PiinkY
This is so retarded....
2016-01-06 20:41
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1 reply
A little harsh of a penalty for sure. Everyone deserves a second chance. I still have mixed feelings about it but in the end... Valve wins. Stealing people's money is the same thing as match fixing. Whether you agree with it or not, it's actually a crime.
2016-01-06 20:59
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#1535
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Slovakia Twiggi
RIP Swag I don't see any logical reason why Skadoodle is not banned btw. He threw -> he should be banned. This is ridiculous... #FreeSwag
2016-01-06 20:44
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5 replies
He didn't take skins and wasn't involved and stealing peoples money like the rest of them were. Props to Skadoodle for not being a scum and taking part.
2016-01-06 20:54
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4 replies
#1580
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United States hehexddd
Wtf. Skadoodle wanted skins too. What happened is that there weren't enough skins to go around, unfortunately (technically fortunately) Ska was last in line. By the time the skins were available, R Lewis article had been published, and Ska chose to decline taking any skins so there could be no evidence. tl;dr Ska was supposed to get skins, but didn't get any therefore valve couldn't ban him.
2016-01-07 01:36
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#1694
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Slovakia Twiggi
They were banned because they threw the game... what Valve should look on is that they THREW not that he didn't accept the prize. Which was also only luck on Ska's side.
2016-01-08 21:13
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2 replies
I read from multiple sources that this was a last minute decision by steel, azk and dazed. Skadoodle didn't really have a choice, his teammates told him what they were doing, so he went along with it.
2016-01-08 22:05
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1 reply
#1707
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Slovakia Twiggi
exactly, could have said no and just not play, but he went with it. That's why a lot of people is saying #FreeSwag cause he didn't want to throw either. But they both did and therefore he should be banned
2016-01-09 05:37
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#1538
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Denmark diOnysos
Nice news to come home from work to, Valve just earned a little more respect from me here.
2016-01-06 20:51
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YESSssss Let's fuckin goooooooo
2016-01-06 20:59
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I lost about 150 on lounge that match and it pissed me off for some time. But hey, they made a mistake. They didnt consider the consequences. So just let them play. They have been banned for a year now and suffered enough not knowing if it would be lifted. Make all bans from here on out perma and recognize the good things some of those guys are doing trying to make amends.
2016-01-06 21:08
0
lele
2016-01-06 21:11
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#1547
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Canada ujellybro
valve is retarded as fuck
2016-01-06 21:36
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#1549
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nEGRo | 
Greenland WhatANiceGuy
rest in peace
2016-01-06 21:45
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#1550
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United States vaz
ggwp
2016-01-06 22:14
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2016-01-06 22:23
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#1552
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f0rest | 
Brazil Kurtt
valve = joke close all bet-skins sites only tradeS!!! and end!!! kids never cry again for lose skins
2016-01-06 22:26
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#1553
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World ArCt1C
i think gaben bet on this match of ibp :/
2016-01-06 22:29
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#1554
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Brazil pedro77
most comments ever?
2016-01-06 22:30
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#1559
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Thailand Innosane
Volvo care CSGO cause skin they throw for skin = permanent ban ez logic
2016-01-06 22:50
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#1560
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Reunion makcc
finally, it's not good, it's very very good
2016-01-06 22:52
0
kek wtf lol
2016-01-06 23:17
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#1564
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Brazil b0cuit
abit unfair tbh..
2016-01-06 23:21
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#1569
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Portugal mescal1ne
expected
2016-01-07 00:03
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#1581
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Canada BoLT-
What a shame.
2016-01-07 02:34
0
Listen to the community for once, valve, and realize that 90% of us dont want them perma banned
2016-01-07 02:51
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1 reply
#1585
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TaZ | 
Other H17L3RWA5R1GH7
90% is you and some tard kids from HLTV forum? thats cute :') Neeeeeeeeeeeext!
2016-01-07 03:40
0
watch?v=Vtwbtt7yCtA so sad swags last stand
2016-01-07 04:13
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1 reply
#1596
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Germany Herp
you still have n0thing literally n0thing
2016-01-07 07:39
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Fuck IBP fanboys. Don't they realize they're (valve) setting an example by them? You wont be seeing any T1 teams throwing after these new consequences have been implemented. Now they need to focus on cheaters in the pro scene.
2016-01-07 06:18
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1 reply
#1670
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Canada WooTs
+1
2016-01-08 03:52
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#1597
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Sweden Krittamate
Deserved. Just stop it Fangays
2016-01-07 07:41
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#1602
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Poland shiniox
Nice ban true NoKappa
2016-01-07 08:11
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#1605
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World kalleztaR~
volvo pls ban piter!
2016-01-07 08:28
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#1610
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World devi0
The decision isn't crazy as a rule, "Throwing results in permanent ban", however, I think it is cruel in the circumstances where the players basically wasted a year waiting for a ban reversal which seemed pretty likely given the original message. The major's are a huge influence in CS:GO, so it seems Valve should step up to the plate and produce a clear rulebook, as any player banned from majors will pretty much automatically not be accepted to teams. So IMO they should retroactively introduce rules like: - throwing punishment 1-3years ban (depending on gain) & report to local police - cheating 1-5years ban (depending on severity / profile of match of evidence) - behavior ban 0-1years ban (depending on severity of offence) If these were retroactive, then the people banned one year ago would some be free to play, some not, and so on.
2016-01-07 09:48
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Lol i thought 1 year was a hard punishment for a throw.
2016-01-07 10:17
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#1616
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Romania HardCorePvP
Cancer valve you toxic all with your skins. U should give this players a second chance to show this comunnity u care about this game. Someday Valve will regret all rekless decisions.
2016-01-07 12:14
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2 replies
+1
2016-01-07 12:50
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#1687
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World fukkthem
they care... by doing the right thing can you use your fucking brain atleast ONCE ? Good Job Valve.
2016-01-08 12:05
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#1618
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Moldova some1fat
valve is right in this decision
2016-01-07 12:36
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1 reply
#1712
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ZywOo | 
France 1zn0
and you are a piece of shit nazi
2016-01-09 15:33
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#1619
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Finland RAMBATEN
The best and only solution by Valve. This way they ensure the pro scene will not be part of match-fixing.
2016-01-07 12:40
0
Good
2016-01-07 12:55
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#1623
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Finland herbefa
big rip
2016-01-07 13:37
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#1624
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Czech Republic SaltyTears
Well basicaly imo they comitted a fraud - crime on big scale, so hard punishment is in the place.
2016-01-07 14:00
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#1625
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Brunei Jizzy
Super bad decision yet again.
2016-01-07 14:02
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valve doing gud. fixing match is like stealing moneh
2016-01-07 14:08
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ffs valve banned the community's biggest talent, swag. If they won't unban him, ill get mad
2016-01-07 14:26
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#1629
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Lithuania Art1337s
Bad day for NA i really wanted to see SwaG on Cloud9 atlest NA can win some majors i think
2016-01-07 14:29
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1 reply
#1631
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Sweden Hampzuka
With a mix of these + current players they could do huge damage. Now it's still a struggle, with Sgares out from C9 aswell i doubt NA has anything to compete with at the moment. (Excluding LG, they aint from NA to start with...)
2016-01-07 14:32
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#1630
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Romania PRQN
SeemsGood THANKS MR. VALVE SeemsGood
2016-01-07 14:31
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#1632
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Lithuania Art1337s
One fun fact when you cheat you get 2 or 3years BANNED FROM MAJORS AND OTHER Tournaments when you Throw you get Life Ban i think if we doing LIFE BANs for throw we need do same for Cheaters like Kqly emilio
2016-01-07 14:34
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#1640
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Finland herbefa
unbelievably childish of valve
2016-01-07 17:09
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#1643
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Macau fAKEs2j
RIP Fxy0
2016-01-07 17:26
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#1646
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Sweden highfield
Valve are retarded with setting a LIFETIME BAN on matchbetting, as it was new for the community at the time. There is such a nonchalant move by Valve, it's obviously all about the money. They dont want people to have the chance to earn money through other members in the community, or maybe themself more? Of course they dont want that. So now, is the right way to show an example for both iBP and ex.Epsilon by banning them for LIFE? No, at the time there was no rules, therefore you cannot by common sense set a LIFETIME ban, it's shocking HOW they have the power to do it. If the community will not stick together in this kind of actions, we will never have any control of the outcome of other topics. We have seen a few PROPLAYERS that have questioned Valves decision, THAT IS WHAT IS NEEDED. But what I dont like, is that im not seeing any actions by those who REALY can make a difference, those you hear through your eyes and ears all the time you watch this game: Anders,Semmler,Sadokist,HenryG,Thorin,RichardLewis,SirScoots just to name a few. If they talk and discuss the matter seriously so that people hear and understand how serious this is, people will discuss it even more. Its the ego talking from many of us in the community, "I lost $150 during the game, ruin their life I WOULDNT CARE".... Posts like this are just so RETARDED...... I mean HOW DO YOU WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE FORMED FOR THE FUTURE IN CSGO and ESPORTS? I'm sorry for my english, but I hope that you'll see where im getting at. We need to stay together in the community, otherwise they'll always control the outcome of whatever. And should it be like that in the future? Or are y'all little Kim Jong-Un's? Of course they should be banned 1year,2 years maybe and made to pay money back. But it cannot have the rules set afterwards and say: NO WE ARE THE BIG GUYS, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO. WE DESTROY THESE PEOPLES LIFE. Did they know that this would happen? No Was the rules set of what would happen? No TRY TO SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE, NOT THAT THIS IS JUST A LITTLE GAME, cause it is not... Esport is the future and many of us know it already. Do we want the righthand raised and everybody listens? Or do we want a community where we all can have our voice heard? We in the community set the rules, we are the majority.
2016-01-07 18:46
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You stated many important points. It gave me an inspiration to express my feelings, thank you. When this news came out, I was kinda shocked by valve's decision. I was like 'Okay, They did a great shit, they fucked the community. They stole the money in the worst way by stealing their fans' money. Besides the way they did it, it's a crime first of all. And every crime should be penalized for the sake of ethics and morality. Like, people should feel the decision was right and a relief for everyone's conscience. One moment I was thinking that the decision was made fairly, but now that I dug things deeper, I feel that valve's decision wasn't made in a healthy way. I read Fxyo's statement and many comments on that thread and here too. (I am really trying to be objective and looking at the things as an outsider.) So, first he's saying that Valve didn't contact him about his case to be reviewed before they reached the final decision. As it is a crucial part of democracy, someone who is in front of a jury to be judged, must be allowed to defend himself/herself and talk to the jury before the decision is made. And as I read from his message, this didn't happen. After these people got banned for a year, valve stated that their case will be reviewed. And at the end, they all got a lifelong ban from cs go pro scene(valve's events whatever). So I am asking as a part of this great community. Do you guys think that their case was under consideration during the whole year they were banned or that the decision HAD to be made after one year, and they decided it in really a short space of time, in a hurry? I am thinking of the second choice, which resulted in public pain, lots of question marks in people's minds and definitely didn't give any relief to the community. There are no rules set and nothing is clear how a game should be played. Just because valve didn't set the rules, it doesn't give them any rights to set the rules in the middle of the game like "ok guys that's how we play, you and you, you guys are both fucked, lifelong ban.(y)" People who bet on those matches and lost their money because of them are saying, "you stole my money bitch, go to the hell, lifelong ban well deserved" and such, you are free to say anything but you don't bring any contribution to this community and you know that even if it wasn't a thrown match, you were ready to lose your money at some risk. So why are you raging so much that they deserve lifelong ban? I feel these thoughts wouldn't make any difference from public lynch. They are the screams saying that those people should have the worst penalty ever, but I want to believe that you guys aren't the voice of community, at least of the majority. How can Valve make such decision? Lifelong ban? This must be a great concern for our community and Valve cannot be part of any kind of this action. Valve is a company that thinks about profits, and potential investments for future companies. Valve doesn't give any shit about someone's life on that. As a conclusion, there must be a committee that is above Valve and pro players' future should be on valve's hands. We should act collaboratively. Thank you
2016-01-07 20:47
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2 replies
"When these people got banned for a year, valve stated that their case would be reviewed and a decision would be made after a year." * "Pro players' future SHOULDN'T be on Valve's hands."**
2016-01-07 21:20
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#1664
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Sweden highfield
Happy to hear, Kekik. I agree with what you're saying and I must add that I also were on the otherside at first, but then I read around and thought for myself for a while. And a great point that a committee is needed, cause it's very much needed in this situation and future topics as well.
2016-01-08 00:14
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#1688
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World fukkthem
you throw you get life in sports ciao. thank you valve for not letting them play
2016-01-08 12:06
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#1649
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United Kingdom Rubesmc
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
2016-01-07 19:22
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#1651
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jL | 
Lithuania pumtac
[*] fxy0
2016-01-07 19:31
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#1652
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United Kingdom _deli
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2016-01-07 19:32
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Why do people cry about getting those bastards to get unbanned? They deserve everything from valve. Even if it took 10 years to decide that match fixers will be perm banned. No mercy for stealers. They do not realize that it's not about how much they won, it's about all the people that lost loads of pixels.
2016-01-07 20:05
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1 reply
#1681
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Finland needHalp
+11111
2016-01-08 09:25
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#1656
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Boombl4 | 
Germany GeoRg___J
well deserved. Valve had no other choice
2016-01-07 20:35
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3 replies
#1663
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ZywOo | 
France 1zn0
you are just a tard kid stfu go learn life and come back
2016-01-08 00:01
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2 replies
#1671
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Boombl4 | 
Germany GeoRg___J
nt swag
2016-01-08 04:14
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#1680
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Finland needHalp
you gtfo you fucktard twat , maybe stop riding their dicks cuz they wont give u money you stupid shit face gypsy
2016-01-08 09:25
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IMO the real shame here is just the banned players having to face not being able to do what they love. Did they deserve a punishment? Absolutely. Did it have to be for life? Its up for debate i suppose. Its just sad to me, people argue about rip NA and shit but those guy are crushed mentally. Deserved or not i just wanted to bring in a different view no one had mentioned, or at least not that i read.
2016-01-08 01:18
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#1672
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World legendarye
It's just wrong to ban people for life ,for doing a thing that was questionable ,but had no rules behind it what so ever..2 years ban would be more than enough... more than 2 years and csgo may not even be the case any more ..lel
2016-01-08 08:20
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#1673
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland teco
Good decision. Now they just need to find something else to do.
2016-01-08 08:30
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#1676
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Europe 123pete
It is a fucking disgrace what Valve did. Welcome to North Korea
2016-01-08 08:43
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#1678
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Ukraine N0123
omg Valve..
2016-01-08 09:21
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#1679
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Costa Rica rsuu
lol
2016-01-08 09:22
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Interested enough to see, go vote and let's see the public opinion: goo.gl/l8EE5D results: goo.gl/t6WZDl
2016-01-08 10:54
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#1691
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Portugal rjqnr
Justice was made
2016-01-08 17:59
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#1693
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Netherlands hollowdadon
the only people who think this is justified are the kids who lost some skins on csgolounge.. and are still mad... and i mean people that didnt even bet on that match... just the fact that they lost skins makes then so salty
2016-01-08 19:29
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1 reply
#1703
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World StudLock
Or they have just zero tolerance for the bullshit ibp pulled. Just because you cannot deal with the fact their opinion differs from yours doesn't make your fiction true. It's just a strawman. Like this: the only people who resort to logical fallacies are hltv kids trying to be edgy. And before you try to invent some bullshit about me: I don't bet and I don't agree with the lifetime ban, though one year would've certainly been too easy for these dirty plebs.
2016-01-09 01:52
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#1699
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Canada remenis
free ibp now!!!!
2016-01-08 22:13
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1 reply
#1704
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Bulgaria ComBoro
they just said they won't m9
2016-01-09 01:56
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#1708
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World verycat
rip..
2016-01-09 06:17
0
#1709
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil pedro77
+1
2016-01-09 13:03
0
fucking volvo DansGame
2016-01-09 17:32
0
#1716
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Finland fr0zeNid
+1 good for those noobs
2016-01-09 17:44
0
#1722
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
freddieb | 
Sweden carvin
bye swag
2016-01-10 16:20
0
#1730
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World L0tus
rip swag
2016-01-10 20:12
0
good, they deserved to be banned permanently.
2016-01-10 21:44
0
1 reply
#1741
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany phate1337
+
2016-01-11 20:03
0
#1743
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ukraine N0123
fucking volvo
2016-01-12 08:20
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#1744
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Sweden shirre
This is so extremely wrong. Valve should be ashamed. One or two year bans are enough for this kind of "crime". The only thing this does is to make a small scene even smaller. This isn't good for anyone.
2016-01-12 18:13
0
#1745
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
2016-01-12 23:57
0
#1746
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom Mini <3 C9
Ik many disagree but I still think its a bit harsh, there a video with loads of pros EU/NA saying its too harsh and i agree, they deserver some sort of chance.
2016-01-13 00:03
0
VIETNAM is throwing so obv as fuck but valve doesnt ban these shit cunts.
2016-01-13 00:06
0
2 replies
#1750
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia St0nyyy
it is 100% legal to throw lol. you just cant throw and bet against yourself. then its illegal
2016-01-14 04:41
0
1 reply
throwing in any fashion is illegal
2016-01-14 14:33
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#1749
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
2016-01-14 04:38
0
#1752
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia Mtee
valve retard mode still engaged
2016-01-14 09:55
0
#1759
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States WilbuRsson
What's good for the integrity of the game is letting people cheat for months on end because cheaters buy skins too. Then push a ban wave through by account not IP so you can put the game on sale and do some more business at everyone who plays expense. No, Thank You.
2016-01-16 06:12
0
#1763
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bulgaria yot0ff
please unban steel so he will stop streaming strats and tutorials..
2016-02-05 01:54
0
#1764
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
steel | 
Belarus Ruble
please ban valve and unban ibp
2016-02-05 02:05
0
#1766
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Krittamate
your tears taste so good Ahhh h h
2016-02-16 07:28
0
bump
2016-02-17 07:23
0
:/
2016-02-24 13:58
0
1 reply
)))
2016-02-24 13:59
0
nothing but deserved.
2016-02-24 14:01
0
permaban means for life
2016-02-24 14:01
0
#1773
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Propaganjor
Deserved for rekt
2016-02-24 14:14
0
#1774
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Finland thaizntgoud
ban vp faking 322 team
2016-02-24 14:15
0
If u are so idiot that u fix match to win some skins, its only fine to get perm-bans. They fixed the match coz they were so idiots that they was like ok no one will care and esports wont grow anymore, so lets make money By doing this :D:D:D:D IDIOTS.
2016-02-24 14:17
0
BUMP
2016-02-24 20:48
0
#1777
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Belgium lapink
noooo
2016-02-24 20:49
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#1778
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland jUiCERR
so sad i cri evri taim i see steel's sad face, he has to suffer the plebs of twitch chat for a livingk :(/
2016-02-24 20:52
0
#1779
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Portugal mescal1ne
noice
2016-02-24 20:53
0
Rip ibp
2016-02-24 20:59
0
#1784
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland 5hitdog
hahaa that's good
2016-02-24 21:00
0
2 replies
#1789
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden T_T
little late bro
2016-02-24 21:48
0
1 reply
#1794
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland 5hitdog
yes my friend :-)
2016-02-25 16:34
0
RIP
2016-02-24 22:38
0
#1793
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States epictaco62
FREE IBP
2016-02-25 02:31
0
#1795
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Europe jesh
RiP iBP
2016-02-27 20:45
0
FREE SWAG
2016-03-21 19:26
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