Top 20 players of 2015: shox (13)

Richard 'shox' Papillon is no stranger to best player lists, coming in at number 13 in this year’s top 20 ranking powered by EGB.com, thanks to his versatile high level play and solid numbers on the big stages.

After placing 3rd in 2013, a year in which Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon had at times been considered the best player in the world, and 8th in 2014, shox ranks five places lower than the year before for the second time in a row.

shox’s roots go back to CS 1.5, with him moving on to every new version after its release, leading him to Counter Strike: Global Offensive through CS:Source, even including a short stint in 1.6 after he was already making his way in CS:S.

shox made his breakthrough in 2008, and had already been signed to VeryGames for the first time by 2009, a team he would later see much success with in both CS:S and CS:GO. By the time he signed for VG, shox was already being considered one of the best in the world.

After leaving VG in late 2009, shox played for LDLC.com and 3DMAX, where he hooked up with current Titan teammate Adil "⁠ScreaM⁠" Benrlitom. That wouldn’t last long, however, as shox would be on his way back to the top signing for VG once again. Alas, after internal problems, shox was removed from the lineup again in late 2011.

With CS:GO’s arrival, ScreaM and shox—who had teamed up once again in Tt Dragons—, would make the jump together under Imaginary Gaming, a team they managed to take to LAN for the SLTV StarSeries IV finals, where they came in 3rd behind ESC and Virtus.pro. 


shox and Ladislav "⁠GuardiaN⁠" Kovács crossed paths at one point

At the start of 2013, however, it was ScreaM’s turn to head to VG, leaving shox to fend for himself playing in different mix teams, including TCM-Gaming for which he qualified to StarSeries VI playing with now Na`Vi superstar GuardiaN. Halfway through the year, though, it would be his time to return home and take the spot in VG that had just been left vacant by Kenny "⁠kennyS⁠" Schrub.

It was during late 2013, after VeryGames managed to dethrone NiP and shox put in solid performance after solid performance, that he had started to be considered the best player in the world.


shox after slaying the Ninjas at RaidCall EMS One Fall 2013

At the top both individually and as a team, shox and the newly renamed Titan, would have a rough beginning to 2014, ending up in shox switching places with kennyS and taking a spot in Clan-Mystik, the team that would eventually go on to represent Epsilon. 

Epsilon was a limited team, and it came as no surprise that shox would take part in the French shuffle that ended up with a new iteration of LDLC.com, a team in which he and Epsilon teammate Fabien "⁠kioShiMa⁠" Fiey joined up with ex-Titan teammates Edouard "⁠SmithZz⁠" Dubourdeaux and Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt under the leadership of Vincent "⁠Happy⁠" Schopenhauer and would go on to win a major at Dreamhack Winter 2014. 

Cue 2015. After their last success under the LDLC.com banner with a 1st place finish at the MLG X Games event in Aspen, Colorado, in which shox had been the 2nd best player on the team with a 1.15 (+41) rating, and the best player in the final, North American organization EnVyUs signed the team ahead of what promised to be an eventful year.

Their first tournament as nV wasn’t their most successful, as the team fell in semifinals to fnatic at the Inferno Online Pantamera Challenge, with shox showing a modest 1.03 (+2) rating. 

Major time rolled around, and shox was ready. While the team would end up falling 2-0 to NiP in a catastrophic semifinal, shox showed he was hungry by posting a 1.13 (+20) rating—the highest in the team—in Katowice.


shox at Gfinity Spring Masters 1, where he put in another solid performance 

shox went on to string three very solid tournaments at Gfinity 2015 Spring Masters 1 (1.20, +45), SLTV Starseries XII Finals (1.08, +16), and ESL Pro League Winter 2014/15 Finals (1.07, +11), the two first ones which his team ended up winning in their new jersey.

CCS Kick-off Season Finals and DreamHack Tours 2015 were the other side of the coin, though, and shox would struggle to find good form and ended up with ratings of 0.79 (-33) and 0.90 (-12), the lowest ratings on the team in both occasions with the team placing 4th and 2nd respectively.

His old form started to come back and shox’s next three events got incrementally better, ending up in a prodigious Gfinity 2015 Summer Masters 1. The first was Gfinity 2015 Spring Masters 2, in which he was 3rd in the team with a 1.02 (+10) rating although the team as a whole ended up no farther than in 5th-6th place.

Next up were the SLTV StarSeries VIII Finals, in which shox posted the first of two best-in-team performances (1.16, +40) leading nV to a second place, followed by an MVP performance at Gfinity Summer Masters—his best event of the year—thanks to a whopping 1.24 (+71) across 12 maps which lead his team to victory.

ESL ESEA Pro League Season 1 Finals was another event in which shox trembled a bit and was unable to maintain a high consistency, as he ended up with a 0.91 (-10) rating in his team’s 5th-6th place finish.


shox sitting very close to Titan at ESWC

shox’s last event was ESWC 2015, an event in which the team was all but broken up. That didn’t stop shox from giving it his all and ending up with a season high rating of 1.27 (+42). 

After ESWC, a double swap of which shox would get the short end of went down, and our hero would end up trading spots with kennyS once again. 

Titan played the ESL One Cologne qualifier and made it through to the big event, the first with the newly acquired duo, shox and SmithZz. shox did it again, he posted the highest rating on his team at a major (1.04, +1), but was the only one to have a score above 1 (Mathieu "⁠Maniac⁠" Quiquerez was second with 0.93), which resulted in the team floundering in only two maps. 


shox still did well despite the circumstances in Slovenia

Gaming Paradise rolled around, a tournament not really worth mentioning, but shox did manage a 1.25 rating, the 3rd highest in the tournament, and a positive 54 kill-death difference. 

ESL ESEA Dubai Invitational 2015 was another one of shox’s low points of the year, with a year-low 0.78 rating and a negative 19 kdd, and definitely be categorized as a poor event. It would be shox’s worst, in fact, but the countdown to the next major was already running, and therefore it was time for our hero to show up again.


nV watch shox on the big screen in Cluj-Napoca

After going through major qualifiers again, Titan found themselves through, and were headed to Cluj-Napoca this time. While Cédric "⁠RpK⁠" Guipouy was able to post a decent 1.07 rating, it wasn’t enough help for shox’s—once again—team high rating at a major of 1.12 (+6), and the team fell out in the group stage.

Titan’s last event of the year, CEVO Professional Season 8 Finals, came around and the team ended in a modest 3rd-4th place, with shox ending the year on a fairly even note, 1.01 (0).


shox in Columbus, Ohio for CEVO S8 Finals

Why is he the 13th best player of 2015?

shox was the 9th highest rated player of the year, with a 1.09. However, he also had some consistency issues, with CCS and ESL ESEA Dubai being two particularly bad tournaments out of a total of four in the red.

Having the highest rating on his team at every major was certainly also a huge booster for shox. However, he didn’t leave a huge mark at many of the biggest tournaments he participated in, even if he did play well in most of them. Instead, his best performances came at less prestigious events like Gfinity Summer Masters, SLTV StarSeries XIII Finals and ESWC.

 

Another big statistic for shox is the fact that when he gets a kill, his teams win 71% of the rounds, putting him 3rd in the world in this category. 

One of the keys to shox, and something that has made him a truly top performer for so many years in a row is his versatility. Ranking 13th in opening kills (435) and as the 8th player with the most clutch rounds won (61) he is also above average in kills per round with pistols and rifles and is barely below average with the AWP, which on top of being the 14th player with most headshots per round (0.36) means he can open rounds, close rounds, play with all weapons, and puts bullets where he wants them—quite often in his rivals’ domes.

What did you think of shox's 2015? Would you have ranked him differently? Let us know what you think in the comments below.

Stay tuned to our Top 20 players of 2015 ranking powered by EGB.com and keep track of the list over at the Introduction article.

 

France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
833
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
France Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
318
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
France Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
819
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
692
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
Slovakia Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
682
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.62
Switzerland Mathieu 'Maniac' Quiquerez
Mathieu 'Maniac' Quiquerez
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
469
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.66
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
766
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.66
Belgium Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
609
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.65
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
632
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
716
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.62
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Belgium lelelexaxaxa
nice
2016-01-08 19:33
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France bouni45
my love <3
2016-01-08 19:34
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Denmark Sule
imo not deserved
2016-01-08 19:35
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France Quono
Much deserved. A player, even when not in his prime, is 13th best. That speaks to as why he is the 2nd best all time csgo player to ever touch the game according to thorin. Viva la shoxie
2016-01-08 19:36
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North America NaScene
lmfao Shox expected
2016-01-08 19:39
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Hungary Shaperz
nt shox
2016-01-08 20:18
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nt netherlands with green stripe
2016-01-08 21:26
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lmao
2016-01-09 04:53
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nt hungarian with blue stripe
2016-01-09 10:37
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Nt poland with blue triangle
2016-01-09 18:48
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nt evil Switzerland
2016-01-09 20:40
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nt weird chile
2016-01-09 21:21
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Czech Republic TomiukQT
nt horizontal Italy
2016-01-09 22:58
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Brazil Hyzek
"according to Thoorin" Top kek, you say it like it's worth something
2016-01-08 20:19
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France Quono
Thoorin said brazil is a good country in cs and luminosity are a top team. This is not worth something too i guess. Will just overlook LG. They are tier 3
2016-01-08 20:23
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Nt
2016-01-08 21:24
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Australia Kazzer
imao
2016-01-09 03:23
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Canada dB-
Thooorin knows more about CS and esports in general than all of HLTV users Also he said that the brazilian team is a top team, I guess not according to you then since thooorin's analysis is not worth anything
2016-01-08 22:29
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worth alot more than any other fuckwits opinion on this post
2016-01-08 23:33
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Croatia Paqa
Rychu kozak ale go troche z teamkiem wyruchali ;/ SHOX NEED BACK TO ENVY BECAUSE HE IS GOOD AND TITAN SUCK
2016-01-08 21:42
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France Quono
Exactly. Kio needs to be kicked
2016-01-08 22:24
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Poland el_pistolero
pls out shox from this list, he is max top50 btw he didnt even playing this year
2016-01-08 19:35
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+9999999999
2016-01-08 20:03
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North America IwasKnowThisDetails
HLTV bait m8 r8 8/8
2016-01-08 20:43
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well deserved!
2016-01-09 00:44
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China kintakbir
hax shox
2016-01-09 04:04
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Sweden 25benja
congrats
2016-01-08 19:33
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Norway tomzeyRrRRrR
lol
2016-01-08 19:33
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Slovakia ArtFull
lel
2016-01-08 19:33
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Norway Luke Skywalker
1st
2016-01-08 19:33
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World Sadik34
n1
2016-01-08 19:33
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Poland medisoN1
n1
2016-01-08 19:33
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nice
2016-01-08 19:33
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sex jurgen
2016-01-08 19:41
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nice
2016-01-08 19:33
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Slovenia CyzillaTwo
haha
2016-01-08 19:33
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1st
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More like 13.
2016-01-08 19:36
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Europe GandalfThePimp
nt not even that bro
2016-01-08 19:44
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France Quono
He was talking about shox
2016-01-08 20:12
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k
2016-01-08 20:43
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Poland Marcines
shox? hahahahaha
2016-01-08 19:33
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Belgium Tendowow
Nice
2016-01-08 19:33
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expected
2016-01-08 19:33
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Lithuania marten1
not deserved
2016-01-08 19:33
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Why not? Is it because you don't like shox or just because you are dumb?
2016-01-08 20:05
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Sweden Maoux551
*Titan fan* lmao
2016-01-08 22:08
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Explain why he shouldn't be on the list? Saying "Titan fan lmao" is not an argument.
2016-01-08 22:46
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Explain why he should be on the list
2016-01-08 23:35
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Iceland alex!
If only there was a very lengthy article explaining why hes 13th...
2016-01-09 01:33
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Other fakewinland
don't waste time on stupid people
2016-01-09 20:34
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The article that HLTV wrote does it great.
2016-01-09 01:58
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Germany DankyD
Not really..... they needed to put emphasis on his "high impact kills" and "many entry kills" when it's obv that they come from his sole purpose:entryfragging, and have to mention 2 bad tournaments aswell as "only barely below average" awp work, you have to wonder why he is even in the top 20. (Forgot that they also mentioned "not leaving a big mark" at bigger tournaments) This article is a joke xD
2016-01-10 19:29
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Germany DankyD
I'd rate him 18 at max
2016-01-10 19:30
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Sweden Maoux551
He could very well be on this list,I'd just rather see him at 20 or 19
2016-01-08 23:47
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North Macedonia bebun
wasn't better than cajunb or f0rest imo this year.
2016-01-08 23:54
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Sweden Maoux551
F0rest did really play well,imo even better than gtr this year. Cajunb has been really good in tsm aswell
2016-01-09 00:22
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North Macedonia bebun
f0rest played better in the last part of the year.Overral gtr and allu carried NiP in till Cluj.
2016-01-09 00:41
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f0rest had a pretty bad first half of the year and a few inconsistent tournaments though.
2016-01-09 13:13
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Canada dB-
you're right, he deserves top10
2016-01-08 22:30
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Belarus Wallban[G]
Petroff /A/ <3
2016-01-08 19:33
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Brazil DR. Felipe
ahahahahah best ranking
2016-01-08 19:34
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France bouni45
my love :)
2016-01-08 19:34
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Tunisia bramzz
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF????????????? WTF IS THIS GUY DOING IN TOP20?
2016-01-08 19:34
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Slovenia CyzillaTwo
1.09 rating over year. Plenty medals. Why not?
2016-01-08 19:34
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World Hayashin
People are fucking stupid. Thats why not
2016-01-08 20:00
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1.09 at LAN in 2015 1.11 at Majors Has achievements But no forget stats and continue with your hate boner.
2016-01-08 19:59
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France Quono
Ikr..deserves top 5
2016-01-08 20:14
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I'm shoxed.
2016-01-08 19:34
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Pakistan sanos
is this a joke ?
2016-01-08 19:34
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HAHAHAHAHA
2016-01-08 19:34
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Ireland Debson
<3
2016-01-08 19:34
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Poland el_pistolero
NOT GOOD, WHY SHOXIE?
2016-01-08 19:34
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1.09 at LAN 1.11 at Majors Achievements Best player for Envy at Majors. Why not?
2016-01-08 20:11
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World hoobik
When you finish 9th-12th its not hard to get padded stats vs shitty teams in groups.
2016-01-08 20:31
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
His stats were that good before he was removed from envy m8.
2016-01-08 20:36
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Ethiopia xohs
"shitty teams in groups" You know that teams like fnatic, nV, Na'Vi, TSM etc also plays in the group stage? Shox best MAJOR was Katowice, which was the semi final. Just go fuck a donkey or something inbred.
2016-01-08 21:50
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Finland jarski
Are you really this braindead? Do you not see that he got a low placement just twice this year? I mean, the stats are right there and if you don't know how to read them, then just don't bother posting at all.
2016-01-08 21:53
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Portugal rjqnr
stop licking titan boots and stop copy paste that nonsence. if he was the best why kicked out of the team?
2016-01-08 23:18
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He was kicked because of a fight between him and happy. Shox wanted to be the IGL for Envy. He was not removed because of his performance.
2016-01-09 01:57
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Portugal rjqnr
he got kicked because he prefered going to night clubs rather than focus on the game he got payed to play
2016-01-09 16:21
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Albania Leutriim12
I loled
2016-01-08 19:34
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Iceland aimhacker2k
im a pidar
2016-01-08 19:34
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Europe Taquito
lol he stopped caring he doesn't deserve to be in top 20
2016-01-08 19:34
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Netherlands militanthumanist
stats. #13 when not caring, then u are good.
2016-01-08 20:29
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Right because only players with a personality and character deserve to be in the top 20. Retard
2016-01-09 01:57
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Europe Taquito
That's not what I meant you fucking retard.
2016-01-09 13:22
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World POmKi
gg
2016-01-08 19:34
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I knew it
2016-01-08 19:34
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#39
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Poland Czudi
LMAO shox 13 ?
2016-01-08 19:34
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fak
2016-01-08 19:34
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#41
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Malta NjiNjiNji
shox > flamie and forest, absolutely ridiculous
2016-01-08 19:35
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#71
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Slovenia CyzillaTwo
Shox 1.09 rating, flamie 1.07, forest 1.05. Why would it be ridiculous? Shox won much more than forst, kinda same as flamy. Shoxie just had bad last few months.
2016-01-08 19:38
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#92
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Malta NjiNjiNji
shox left envy in the summer, since then he hasnt accomplished ANYTHING of note with titan
2016-01-08 19:42
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13 replies
#108
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Slovenia CyzillaTwo
That's why he's #13. Otherwise he'd be top 10.
2016-01-08 19:46
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10 replies
#122
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Malta NjiNjiNji
Hes #13 because he was good for 7 months? Then xyp9x should be top 5, he was insane in the 2nd half of the year. A year has 12 months, not 6. Typical downie.
2016-01-08 19:49
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#137
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World Noldi_alb
Xyp9x played good only last month
2016-01-08 19:55
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8 replies
#151
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Malta NjiNjiNji
thats some thigh level memory right there
2016-01-08 20:00
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7 replies
#155
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World Noldi_alb
hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=4954&stats.. Remove december. If that's what u consider insane I think u have problems.
2016-01-08 20:03
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#166
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Malta NjiNjiNji
hes playing support positions on every map, hes never gonna get 30 frags, look at NBK. check this hltv.org/?pageid=194&playerid=4954&stats.. and maybe get some cs knowledge
2016-01-08 20:07
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5 replies
#167
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World Noldi_alb
still not "insane"
2016-01-08 20:08
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1 reply
#169
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Malta NjiNjiNji
74% 1v1 rate not insane, how retarded can you possibly be?
2016-01-08 20:11
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#173
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Ethiopia xohs
Even shox has better clutch win rate than xyp9x hltv.org/?pageid=194&playerid=1225&stats..
2016-01-08 20:11
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you dumb, really, really dumb
2016-01-08 20:51
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#399
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Netherlands EJVN
you are fucking retarded.
2016-01-09 05:42
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#208
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AnJ | 
Denmark devonBFD
Not competing at LAN's is better than placing last like NiP. :D
2016-01-08 20:26
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#310
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Finland jarski
During his time in nV he accomplished a lot more than f0rest did this year, and even after that he has performed well in Titan, eventhough the team hasn't done so great. Not being capable of judging one's performance from a longer period of time just shows that your IQ is kind of low. Don't take me wrong, I understand that your brain just can't process larger entities.
2016-01-08 22:01
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#78
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Europe FrozenCrystal
it's true
2016-01-08 19:40
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#42
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Poland cRisoo
definitely unexpected
2016-01-08 19:36
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH he isnt even top 30
2016-01-08 19:35
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#46
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Estonia rYm
noob
2016-01-08 19:35
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#48
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Italy F4Lc0
Not deserved. Not this year!
2016-01-08 19:35
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#49
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North America [unknown]
wasted talent
2016-01-08 19:35
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+1
2016-01-08 20:01
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#50
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Finland thaizntgoud
expected
2016-01-08 19:35
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#53
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Fifflaren | 
Ukraine FaZe_UW0TM8
WTF seriously??????? Top 20 but i would not put him that high.
2016-01-08 19:35
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Great
2016-01-08 19:36
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#57
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arT | 
Brazil limadavp
The Shoxie is back!
2016-01-08 19:36
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#59
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Serbia FrictioN
LOL really?
2016-01-08 19:36
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#60
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United States squintS
too high
2016-01-08 19:36
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#62
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forsaken | 
Singapore D1v1ne
dog shit, he wasn't even top 20.
2016-01-08 19:36
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What a piece of shit this rank from HLTV.
2016-01-08 19:37
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11 replies
#196
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United Kingdom ishyk786
user ID: 677k.. how do you know anything about cs?
2016-01-08 20:22
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10 replies
#229
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United States WilbuRsson
look at his name
2016-01-08 20:40
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9 replies
#247
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Germany Cosmyc
He's one of those retards hoping that cold makes #12 ayyy lmao
2016-01-08 20:54
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8 replies
#403
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Brazil agoravai
Not saying he ain't retarded, but I bet with you Cold will be on this list
2016-01-09 07:34
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No he won't be in the list Only 7 players left who didn't attend ESWC and those should be Olofm Flusha KRiMZ Device Snax 1 more ex-TSM player (dupreeh/Xyp9x) 1 more VP player (byali/pasha)
2016-01-09 11:17
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6 replies
#420
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Brazil agoravai
wanna bet?
2016-01-09 11:40
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2 replies
#461
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France reakq
fortunately you didn't bet :D
2016-01-21 13:52
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1 reply
#462
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Brazil agoravai
Gotta believe, right? :p
2016-01-21 13:55
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#422
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France shuya10
That's completly retarded sir XD. I mean NBK Happy and Kio won 2 majors like fnatic did this year. (TSM 0 majors 0 finals, VP 0 majors in 2015) kennyS won a major with greats stats. Guardian had fucking insane stats. So basically Flamie best player of Na'Vi, and Apex best player of nV based on the classement.
2016-01-09 12:47
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#440
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Finland HentaiReviewer
3 Majors. Fnatic won 2. nV 1. How did NBK Happy and kio win 2?
2016-01-09 16:27
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You are the retarded one sir, these are the ones who DIDN'T attend ESWC, the other 5 who DID will probably be Happy NBK GuardiaN KennyS GTR
2016-01-09 17:43
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#64
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Poland zombek31
Nice joke. This ranking is shit.
2016-01-08 19:37
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#65
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France Foryon2
NICE !! shox is life U MADERFAKERZ
2016-01-08 19:37
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2016-01-08 19:37
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#67
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France daniel19
before flaming guys, read carefully, gl richard
2016-01-08 19:37
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#68
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Poland filq
expected
2016-01-08 19:37
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#69
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Spain XelideR
Are u kidding me?
2016-01-08 19:37
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#70
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Poland sajlent
kinda expected that he will be 13th
2016-01-08 19:38
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#72
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REAL | 
Norway kakkopp
Rolf
2016-01-08 19:38
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#76
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Brazil pdronee
NOT EXPECTED!! Shox is top 40!
2016-01-08 19:39
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#121
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Japan tenshi
13 is within the top 40. Bye.
2016-01-08 19:48
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I would really like to hear just ONE of you guys above me who said he doesn't deserve to be in the ranking to explain it with a valid argument after seeing the arguments in the article. JUST ONE PLEASE! (I guarantee you it's impossible)
2016-01-08 19:39
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#93
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Portugal dracø
You should've learned from last year that there is no point in trying to argue with them, you'll just lose your time.
2016-01-08 19:42
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#95
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France Energy~
I mean it's possible if you have different criterias, but they don't even have some, they just go by what they think of the players overall.
2016-01-08 19:43
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#114
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Sweden amino
I'm pretty certain that most of 'em didnt even read the article.
2016-01-08 19:47
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Well, at face value it just seems shocking that he's this high, seeing as he played in a team that achieved absolutely nothing and bombed out of every big tournament for half the year. And in the first half, he played in a team that was falling apart in its last couple of months. So that's like four to five months of accomplishing anything. And the latter is like the biggest criteria you have in measuring a player, whether or not his performances lead to accomplishments for his team.
2016-01-08 19:50
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kennys last year was 6th and he didn't accomplish much
2016-01-08 19:56
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exactly. that's why he was 6th. he had by far the best ratings of any player, but was 6th instead of 1st because he didn't accomplish anything. that was the talking point of last years ranking, don't you remember?
2016-01-08 20:00
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"at face value" - Did you read the article like I asked before posting your argument? Because it doesn't sound like it. Otherwise maybe it'd have jogged your memory that he was one of nV's best players in many of their successes in the first 7 months (13 tournaments). And you'd maybe even catch that table which shows how incredibly much he actually contributes to success in general. What you basically showed here is at least two of these three things: 1) Relying on faulty memory, not caring about checking what actually transpired and why he was placed here 2) Exaggerating timelines and extrapolating things based on that, as well as making assumptions like the implication that because the team was falling apart it actually means shox couldn't have been playing well or the team couldn't have had success (which btw was actually 2 weeks not months, from ESL ESEA to ESWC when they were actually falling apart) 3) Setting expectations for a player and then when he doesn't play as well as before underestimating his contribution
2016-01-08 20:35
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Are you this stupid? No, I didn't read it yet. I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU WHY ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED AT HIS PLACEMENT. I'M NOT ARGUING AGAINST IT. I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU WHY YOU'RE GETTING THE RESPONSE YOU GOT THAT YOU DIDN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND YOURSELF.
2016-01-08 21:20
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#286
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United States Sandays
Should have prefaced your original comment with that :P What he was talking about in his first comment was reasons why Shox shouldn't be as high as he is, not reasons why people would post stupid stuff.
2016-01-08 21:41
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If that is so, how did you at all contribute and answer to what I was starting there? You know I know all of that, it's the same every single year, but I asked for people who think it to tell me their actual argument. So if you're gonna go with "I was just saying what others think, I don't think that" I'll go with: then I was replying to them through you.
2016-01-08 22:02
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What type of response did you actually expect though? It doesn't matter if it's your actual opinion or not, Tgwri1s simply explained why the arguments you provided (which are some people's opinion around here) do not hold up.
2016-01-09 13:16
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#230
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France Foryon2
u got fkin rekt mate gtfo of here hltv forum analyst !
2016-01-08 20:40
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what did you expected from this community seriously tell me
2016-01-08 20:38
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It's not my expectations that are challenged here, I know who I'm dealing with, I'm just challenging people who dare to comment their nonsense to tackle on an actual argument to see if anyone dares
2016-01-08 20:40
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#242
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United States WilbuRsson
0.78 rating and a negative 19 kdd he didn’t leave a huge mark at many of the biggest tournaments he participated in, even if he did play well in most of them. Instead, his best performances came at less prestigious events like Gfinity Summer Masters, SLTV StarSeries XIII Finals and ESWC.
2016-01-08 20:49
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You make a good argument for why he shouldn't be higher? :)
2016-01-08 20:52
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1 reply
#299
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Ethiopia xohs
Don't listen to the haters man.. They are clueless and have goldfish memory. This list seems solid so far, as it was in 2013 and 2014 as well. Keep it up!
2016-01-08 21:54
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Are you the only person responsible for the criteria that are looked at when making the rankings?
2016-01-08 21:02
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Yea, still just me. I tried to get some news guys to chip in but no one really wanted to tackle the task, it's a lot to go through
2016-01-08 22:33
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Deserved <3 best player ever
2016-01-08 19:40
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expected
2016-01-08 19:40
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#81
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Australia asd_zaz_20134
great player
2016-01-08 19:40
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#82
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Israel lunaqtxo
Biggest joke so far. What the fuck is this, are you trying to bait us?
2016-01-08 19:40
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cold > shox cold > neo cold > flamie cold > allu
2016-01-08 19:40
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#126
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syrsoN | 
Germany PhoenixD!!!
neo yes allu maybe flamie maybe shox no
2016-01-08 19:51
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#144
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Brazil mth^
he didnt play all long the year :D
2016-01-08 19:58
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#185
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Bulgaria AboveYall
coldzera won't be in top 20! not bcz he doesnt deserve it but bcz he competed for like 1/3 of the year.. and other players stats r based from the whole year. He definitely has bright future tho
2016-01-08 20:18
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#85
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Argentina juanme555
shox is the titan stars but cloud9 he go with america moving when los angeles
2016-01-08 19:41
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LOL GTR TOP 10 HLTV CONFIRMED.
2016-01-08 19:41
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#87
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Brazil nove
inconsistent af
2016-01-08 19:41
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#91
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Spain siiilvio
shox? he didnt do nothing this year D:
2016-01-08 19:42
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1 reply
#98
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France Energy~
read the article then
2016-01-08 19:44
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#94
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Poland subconsious
damn 43-27 vs NIP. also now we need ScreaM on this list.
2016-01-08 19:43
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1 reply
#352
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Portugal rjqnr
you wont see
2016-01-08 23:20
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#99
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Poland fx_elohg
not deserved
2016-01-08 19:44
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HLTV Top 20 Potential list (Based on the hints given by HLTV) - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10epVWy-5.. There is only one more player who did not attend DHW on the list, and it will 100% be GuardiaN. With this, a host of players that attended at least 2 majors and 2 other $250k events are officially out of the running.
2016-01-08 19:45
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Then Seized isn't in the list, right?
2016-01-09 08:29
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1 reply
And probably no JW either
2016-01-09 08:31
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#105
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Monkey | 
Brazil ianzin_
hahahahaha this rank is such a joke
2016-01-08 19:45
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1 reply
#202
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United Kingdom ishyk786
user ID: 654k How are you in any shape to comment about CS? lmao go back to sleep
2016-01-08 20:23
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#106
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Finland Emvi
really mind boggling that shox is in the top 20. Even more mind boggling is that he is above flamie. Objectively insane, not deserved at all
2016-01-08 19:45
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#107
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Sweden godname
is this bad or good for shox? i think this is realy bad..
2016-01-08 19:46
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2 replies
Bad he's a wasted talent right now but only cause he wants, it's his fault...
2016-01-08 20:04
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#198
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Probably Bad. Got kicked from envy. Having motivation issues. Imagine how he would be if he got fully motivated in CS again.
2016-01-08 20:22
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nice shoxie
2016-01-08 19:46
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#110
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Russia StayAway
shoxie <3
2016-01-08 19:46
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#112
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Other Matt Damon
this ranking is even worse than last year, but like real bad now
2016-01-08 19:46
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Should be WAY lower
2016-01-08 19:47
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flamie » shox but ok.
2016-01-08 19:47
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#120
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Russia Dem0nEr
Im predicted that lol
2016-01-08 19:48
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#123
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shox | 
Germany rakFABI
shoxie <333 2105 was shox worst year imo 2016 is going to be better
2016-01-08 19:49
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#125
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Russia SUPERHUNTER
SHOXIE GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2016-01-08 19:50
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#127
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India ScRyPt123
haha people you cannot change facts... please read the prerequisites to this ranking system... jumping to a conclusion without a valid argument is dire stupidity
2016-01-08 19:52
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#128
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Russia cs2004
shox 1.05 lan rating flamie 1.12 GJ hltv and onliners :D
2016-01-08 19:52
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Shox 1.09 on LAN in 2015 Flamie 1.08 on LAN in 2015 Nt Ruski
2016-01-08 20:06
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#207
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Wrong. Shox 1.09 at LAN in 2015 Flamie 1.08 at LAN in 2015 and now for the big difference Shox at Majors = 1.11 Flamie at Majors = 0.97
2016-01-08 20:25
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#236
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Sweden Kasidro
bs
2016-01-08 20:43
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#129
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France Erudite
shoxie deserve top 5
2016-01-08 19:53
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1 reply
#353
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Portugal rjqnr
LMAO
2016-01-08 23:21
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#130
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
aproto | 
United States jskarimbas
God shox
2016-01-08 19:54
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#131
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Spain Ayrr
what?, nah man
2016-01-08 19:54
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#134
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Europe selbi
the downfall continues for shox..;
2016-01-08 19:55
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#135
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ukraine LeoLynx
who is next?
2016-01-08 19:55
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#136
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain Ivansito
ARE YOU DRUNK
2016-01-08 19:55
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#138
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Switzerland nuvl
didnt deserve
2016-01-08 19:56
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4 replies
#190
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Slovenia ibeFiinder
He was on nV for 3/4 of the year... GOD
2016-01-08 20:19
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3 replies
#250
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Switzerland nuvl
then he got removed, if he was such a god im sure they would of rather kept him other than getting kennys and apex
2016-01-08 20:57
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2 replies
#252
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Slovenia ibeFiinder
They wanted to remove just Smithzz and add kennyS, but Shox is his best friend so he said he is leaving with him. Shoxie is a god.
2016-01-08 20:59
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#437
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tabseN | 
France shoxAttorney
Thats why they are probably thinkinh themselves now
2016-01-09 15:47
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#142
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Sweden Zeusino
Still one of the best players ever !
2016-01-08 19:57
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#143
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India ScRyPt123
I hope get_right is not there in top5.. otherwise this ranking would be a joke!
2016-01-08 19:58
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1 reply
#303
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Ethiopia xohs
I predict GTR to be around top 10. Probably just outside the top 10(11 or 12)
2016-01-08 21:55
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this top 20 is funny af.. totally random.. rly haha
2016-01-08 19:58
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1 reply
#147
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Brazil mth^
numbers > what we think tho :D
2016-01-08 19:59
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#149
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United Kingdom znij
Shame he aimlocks huehue
2016-01-08 20:00
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#154
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States HyperionN
What up now swedes wooooooooooooo
2016-01-08 20:01
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#160
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BnTeT | 
Poland autistickidd
Funny ranking top 1 will be scream or other shit
2016-01-08 20:05
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1 reply
scream or gtr
2016-01-08 20:07
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Well Shox 13th confirmed, now let's see if I got Cold right or not
2016-01-08 20:07
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1 reply
No cold in this top20
2016-01-09 11:08
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RiP
2016-01-08 20:07
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#168
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Ethiopia xohs
REKT IDIOTS. I called that Shox would be on the list. All the stupid plebs were like :"omg seized, rain, fallen, pasha is so much better, no chance for SHox" Fkin inbreds, get a brain.
2016-01-08 20:09
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9 replies
#210
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Brazil ur mam
its kind of a given that he will be on this list considering when envy win, he is usually top 2 in performance.
2016-01-08 20:27
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1 reply
#213
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Ethiopia xohs
Exactly, but there are so many retards on HLTV that said Shox sucked in nV, and sucked even more in titan. A player that has the 9th best stats doesn't suck.
2016-01-08 20:28
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#316
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NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel
seized WILL be on this list.
2016-01-08 22:05
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#413
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Ethiopia xohs
Nope.
2016-01-09 11:12
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#421
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Ethiopia xohs
Seized can't be on the list, becasue in the introduction of HLTV top 20, they said that 4 players in the top 20 didn't attend DHW. Skadoodle, flamie and shox are 3 of those. That means there is only 1 spot left for players that didn't attend DHW, and that one is obviously going to be GuardiaN, not seized.
2016-01-09 12:09
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#432
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NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel
If it's true then they are a band of retards. Seized was much better than flamie this year. He was #8 at the majors: hltv.org/?pageid=181&statsfilter=1540
2016-01-09 13:22
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#433
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Ethiopia xohs
Seized was 10th at the majors. Both Jkaem and Shox performed better than him. hltv.org/?pageid=181&statsfilter=1540&ma..
2016-01-09 13:28
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#434
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NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel
ok, but they played 9 maps less. Still you see my point if he was in top 10 at the major how the hell can they not include him in top 20 of the year?
2016-01-09 13:40
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#436
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Ethiopia xohs
Because there are many more tournaments than majors in 2015. Read the introduction. Majors arent as important anymore as there are a lot of other tournaments with equal prizepool. In 2014 they put a lot of weight on majors, because they were the only big tournaments. Now almost every tournament is as big as majors,
2016-01-09 14:06
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#170
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Russia BorisBritva
Shoxie! Nice, my friend!)
2016-01-08 20:11
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#175
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Finland RaptoRStillAlive
nice shoxie good
2016-01-08 20:12
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#176
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Sweden jezyzz
f0rest was way better in the end than shox..
2016-01-08 20:12
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#186
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Slovenia ibeFiinder
in the end ye, before shoxie was playing on nV and he was god.
2016-01-08 20:18
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#271
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Europe Heavon
Not in 2015 lol, you have bad memory
2016-01-08 21:19
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#291
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Slovenia ibeFiinder
Sure
2016-01-08 21:46
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#305
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Ethiopia xohs
Look at the stat, pleb F0rest rating : 1.06 Shox rating : 1.09
2016-01-08 21:56
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#177
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Spain BetterCallHeisenberg
not deserved
2016-01-08 20:13
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#178
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Finland Baconguy
not deserved
2016-01-08 20:14
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#180
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Brazil Caiophilip
Didn't deserve to be above cajun and flamie in my opinion
2016-01-08 20:15
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#183
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Slovenia ibeFiinder
He was in nV for 3/4 of this year...
2016-01-08 20:17
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1 reply
#354
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Portugal rjqnr
what does that have to do?
2016-01-08 23:22
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#428
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Ethiopia xohs
Your opinion is irrelevant. Stats don't lie. He was way better than both f0rest and flamie in 2015.
2016-01-09 13:10
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#458
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Brazil Caiophilip
forest?
2016-01-10 22:54
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#181
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Finland fr0zeNid
not deserved ranking total shit
2016-01-08 20:16
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#184
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Slovakia JanKy1
legend
2016-01-08 20:17
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#193
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United States Rivitur
Wow leaks were true :o
2016-01-08 20:21
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#194
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United Kingdom ishyk786
Holy shit that impact on teams success rate is nuts! olofmeister literally carried 3 other top 10 players in fnatic this year :O
2016-01-08 20:21
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#197
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Brazil woody77
shox??? no cold??? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk nice logic HLTV.ORG
2016-01-08 20:22
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#214
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Bulgaria savoff
salty brazilian S^^^
2016-01-08 20:28
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#424
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France shuya10
LMAO cold won a major? I aren't think that.
2016-01-09 12:51
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Then I guess seized wont be in the top 20
2016-01-08 20:23
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#355
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Portugal rjqnr
he wont unfortunatly
2016-01-08 23:22
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#200
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Brazil Hyzek
What a joke, Petar is completely biased
2016-01-08 20:23
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#211
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
No you are the only one being biased. This is pure stats not who he likes better.
2016-01-08 20:27
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#216
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Brazil Hyzek
Cold should be in the list then
2016-01-08 20:29
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#221
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
He didn't play enough of the year to be on the list. Great player but not enough time and achievements to be on the list.
2016-01-08 20:35
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#241
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Brazil Hyzek
2016-01-08 20:47
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#249
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
From the Article But despite impressing so much in many aspects, especially at the biggest event of the year, his lack of first places and missing out on several big events earlier kept him at the 9th place, which is still the highest placing among the players with no titles. He was at tournaments the entire year. He didn't just show up and start playing in the last part of the year. They had stats throughout the entire year. This was also 2013 when there was a lot less players of that skill to choose from. Its possible he will be on the list but missing for 8 months is not going to help him with missing so many tournaments.
2016-01-08 20:56
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#260
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Brazil Hyzek
He played 2 majors and 2 250k tournaments, thats what matters. Playing domestic matchs versus crap NA teams for 4 months (skadoodle) should not count and have impact at all
2016-01-08 21:03
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#275
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Here are the remaining players that could be on the list Olof Guardian Krimz Flusha Happy Device KennyS GTR Snax NBK Dupreeh JW (Could be replaced by Cold/Fer)
2016-01-08 21:22
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Seized>JW JW>allu really. A shame seized probably won't be top 20 when allu is, although I consider him a good player
2016-01-08 21:36
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#391
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
its possible JW won't be on the list as well. He struggled a lot at majors and he had the same rating as byali on lan but much worst at majors. I would assume Seized was something like 21-25th
2016-01-09 03:08
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#426
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France shuya10
Kioshima and JW won 2 majors. Dupreeh, Snax, GTR and Devve won 0 (based on 2015). Olof Guardian kennyS Happy Kioshima Flusha JW Snax Devve Snax NBK Dupreeh (not in order) imo GTR shouldn't be on top 10 there is no place for him all these players had a very great yea.
2016-01-09 12:57
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#445
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Kio had a much worst year than Apex did and apex was 18th. Remember this is not based on who has the most achievements it is based on a mix of like 80 percent individual play and 20 percent achievements. Get_right had a better year than forest and probably will be on the list.
2016-01-09 18:34
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#266
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World Jolly Roger
Don't talk too fast, I'm pretty sure he's in the list. Tell me one player besides Olof, Guardian, Krimz, Flusha, Happy, Device, KennyS, GTR, Snax, NBK and JW that should be instead of Cold and has performed better than all 7 players who already appeared. Like I said yesterday I'm pretty sure Cold will be 11 or 12.
2016-01-08 21:12
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#270
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
hmm you bring up a good point. Only other players I can think of is Dupreeh and other LG players. JW had a pretty bad year as well. I will admit I was wrong if it is the case. Thanks man It is still possible he won't be on the list tho. The Top 12 could be Olof Guardian Krimz Flusha Happy Device KennyS GTR Snax NBK Dupreeh JW ( Could be replaced by Fer/Cold)
2016-01-08 21:21
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#289
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World Jolly Roger
Yeah there's a small chance he may not be but you have to consider one thing. I put JW cause even if he had a bad yearwith 1.03 rating this ranking also counts team performance and winning two majors is a big plus. So imo the question is: Dupreeh over Cold? I don't think so. If you look at Dupreeh and TSM this yearnone of the tournaments they won were either majors or 250k events. The closest one was ESL Dubai with 2nd place. So if you include he has a 1.05 rating same as Seized who also got to a MAJOR final and will not appear in the list you only have one last choice. Coldzera. But who knows :)
2016-01-08 21:42
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#293
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Cajunb was on the list and stats say that dupreeh did better in 2015.
2016-01-08 21:48
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#307
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World Jolly Roger
True true that argument is valid but then this one too: Flamie with same achievements or even better and a better rating (1.08) is gonna be lower than him? Haha we'll see tomorrow :)
2016-01-08 21:58
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#390
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Byali also could be on the list stat-wise.
2016-01-09 03:06
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#201
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Sweden Donger89
wtf
2016-01-08 20:23
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#205
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United Kingdom ishyk786
Lmao all these newfags who started watching CS last month commenting bullshit hahahahahahaah
2016-01-08 20:24
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1 reply
#277
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World Jolly Roger
+1
2016-01-08 21:24
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#206
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
that was so unexpected shoxie was top1 in 2013 right?
2016-01-08 20:24
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5 replies
#209
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Top 3 in 2013.
2016-01-08 20:27
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#281
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Macau fAKEs2j
2013: top3 2014: top8 2015: top13
2016-01-08 21:34
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2 replies
#282
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
2016: top18 confirmed I guess :D
2016-01-08 21:34
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1 reply
#329
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Ethiopia xohs
If the trend continues with him jumping away from successfull teams, then yes :D
2016-01-08 22:24
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#333
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Ethiopia xohs
Shox was top 3 on the ranking, but was pretty much the best player. The only thing was that he played on a tier 4 team half the year(imaginary) so he didn't win anything for 6 months. He was by far the best player after he joined verygames. It's pretty insane that he got 3# on the list when he only attended/won lans half the year. If he was picked up by VG some months earlier, he would easily be #1 in the rankings, before GTR.
2016-01-08 22:26
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#217
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World hoobik
DH Rating 1.12, Team Finish: 9th-12th. It's not hard to get padded stats vs trash teams and then shit the bed vs a real opponent. End result undeserved high tournament rating. With judging like that, spaze and dream3r should be #1 and #2 at the end of this year. Retarded analysis.
2016-01-08 20:29
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So you took one tournament, tried to imply that's what happened the whole year, and you think you actually made a point?
2016-01-08 20:44
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#284
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World hoobik
Given that he was in 3 majors total, and finished 13th-16th at Cologne I find it utterly ridiculous that his 1.11 rating at majors should be valued the same as say someone like f0rest or flamie for example. I didn't try to imply anything, I stated a fact. You can keep disagreeing with the majority of the community in your white knight crusade writing satirical responses. It won't make this ranking any more correct.
2016-01-08 21:40
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Don't pretend now, you implied something completely out of context by stating one fact out of his 18 tournaments that are counted for the ranking. And besides, in the first major, which counts for more for his rating (7 of 13 maps, higher than his average), he was top rated as his team reached the semi. And yet again, the majors didn't help get him to 13th at all, as is stated in the article (the part where it says he did well at big tourneys but didn't do anything special to set himself apart). You haven't stated a single argument against shox's placing, you at best stated that you assume he was 13th based on his major rating, which you have no basis for.
2016-01-08 21:58
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#323
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World hoobik
So are we just ignoring achievements now? One 3rd place finish at a major, and you've had a successful year? It's simple logic that if your team places higher, you will face better competition, and thus will have a harder time achieving higher statistical gains. Getting 1.1 rating vs fnatic, nip, tsm, vp, c9, LG is not the same as getting 1.1 rating vs vp, c9, LG. He had an incredible tournament in Katowice, and if that was when the year ended he should have been ranked even higher than his current placing. However it didn't. This is why I used the extreme example of spaze and s1mple being #1 and #2. How about you give me one argument why shoxie should be placed higher than flamie.
2016-01-08 22:11
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First of all, you should know that players in the top 20 had about 20 tournaments in 2015 on average, so majors are not AS important as last year when it was twice as less tourneys overall, which was stated in the Introduction article. Second if all this is all because he's higher than flamie? That was quite an easy decision to make actually, I can give you plenty of arguments: shox was more consistent (match to match, plus he had less bad games), had similar peaks (one MVP each, while shox's was in a winning campaign, flamie wasn't, as well as similar number of other tourneys where they were among the best at event). And even if you want to compare majors, flamie was far less impactful in every way. Furthermore shox was better in big matches (he even has one of the best grand final ratings at 1.09), and he was one of the most impactful players for their team per the table in the article (and more than flamie ofc). Lastly, shox played more matches against top6 teams than flamie and they were 54% of his stats, while for flamie they're 45%. And would you look at that - shox had better stats than flamie overall in spite of that, huh. It's incredible how many people like you make assumptions and have nothing to back them up with.
2016-01-08 22:28
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#367
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World StudLock
+1 Nice to see quality arguments for a change here.
2016-01-09 00:13
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#337
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Ethiopia xohs
Flamie is a bad argument m8. He was waay worse at majors, than what shox was. Also, Shox worst MAJOR was cologne, the major he played the least maps at. The one where he played the most(katowice) was his best.
2016-01-08 22:32
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#290
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Canada legenDz
when your group consist of nip, vp and liquid, that's actually pretty good, but let's be honest, this titan team is shit, they really have no hope and if he stayed on envy he'd be alot higher
2016-01-08 21:44
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#296
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World hoobik
Most likely he would have been a lot higher, however he didn't stay with Envy and achieved literally nothing with titan for the second half of the year.
2016-01-08 21:51
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#218
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SpawN | 
Netherlands militanthumanist
the fact that when he gets a kill, his teams win 71% of the rounds
2016-01-08 20:30
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#226
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Slovakia pgb1
Joke of the year Shoxie is a great player but not this year
2016-01-08 20:38
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#345
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United States RemixingItUp^_^
Rating on LAN - 1.09 Majors- 1.11 Get your memory checked.
2016-01-08 22:57
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2 replies
#363
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Turkey powergs
Re u fucking idiot or what ? This year yed he was best player in nV but that doesnt make him great or what he was shit in nV and with Titan more shitier if u really think just few LANS wit 1.1 rating make him top13then u re retarded Shox no near of top20
2016-01-08 23:52
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#369
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World StudLock
Wow, your arguments are so much better than the ones in the article!
2016-01-09 00:17
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#227
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Armenia UNiVERSALftw
shoxiejesus <3
2016-01-08 20:39
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#231
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Brazil DxLak
Shoxie on top 20,no cold no fer or at least fallen? RIP favela dreams.
2016-01-08 20:42
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4 replies
#318
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World Jolly Roger
Cold 11 or 12
2016-01-08 22:08
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2 replies
#321
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Brazil DxLak
hope so
2016-01-08 22:09
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#331
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Brazil AL1en
yep, maybe... rating: 1.17 hltv.org/?pageid=173&playerid=9216
2016-01-08 22:24
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#341
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Macau fAKEs2j
You must be retarded... There is 12 spots more.
2016-01-08 22:51
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#232
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Greenland 1stWorldBOY
stats dosent lie, mad fangays wp shoxie <3
2016-01-08 20:43
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#234
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Estonia elariBAY
shoxieJESUS, 2016 is better :)
2016-01-08 20:43
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#238
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JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ
Desered. Personally still one best player in the world.
2016-01-08 20:44
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#240
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Greece theophilos13
rofl
2016-01-08 20:46
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#244
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Netherlands clanc
Allthe flame here, good lord
2016-01-08 20:52
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#248
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Russia deiaS
Shoxie is god
2016-01-08 20:55
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#251
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Denmark slacking
shoxie is bad ever since he got caught aimlocking @de_dust2 and was forced to stop using it
2016-01-08 20:58
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there are barely any legit players left in the french scene im sure they dont give a fuck anymore
2016-01-08 21:05
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#343
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Macau fAKEs2j
People who say things like this, must going to play minecraft or some game with people who has mental problems.
2016-01-08 22:52
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#254
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Russia DiFETRy
Omfg./ I think flamienator much better than shox
2016-01-08 21:00
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#255
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
I wish he becomes god mode again like early 2014
2016-01-08 21:00
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2 replies
#264
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France Jameeesss
He doesn't care anymore man, it won't happen again :'(
2016-01-08 21:10
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#358
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World wmmeister
he needs to change his name to shoxieJESUS, thats all
2016-01-08 23:37
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#262
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device | 
Slovakia Twiggi
VeryGames
2016-01-08 21:05
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#265
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World LeviathaNz
Jesus... People are forgetting half this year where he played really great before he joined Titan and even his first months in Titan he did play really well, he only started to be in a slump around september/october. Look at his stats... It's kinda insane. Just because he was not in shape the last 3months of 2015 doesnt mean he was not a top player in 2015.
2016-01-08 21:11
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#267
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Kosovo er1kz
remember the early 2015 the first 4 months shox was amazing at entry kills but now shox is not that good but i belive and i am sure and i hope he will be the best of 2016.
2016-01-08 21:17
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12 gonna BE NBK boys, just watch =D
2016-01-08 21:16
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NBK>GTR
2016-01-08 21:25
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i love u shox
2016-01-08 21:21
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but... but thorin said... we all live in shox's world... :(
2016-01-08 21:33
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Shoxie gaaawd!
2016-01-08 21:41
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#292
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NEO | 
Poland m@rulek
not deserved.
2016-01-08 21:48
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#294
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Brazil pdronee
Shox played so well only shortly before the change in envyus. However getting in the top 13 playing just six months on the high level. And the Cold that arose and was much more stable than him. It's good he's on the list its Communist djaboooo
2016-01-08 21:49
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#300
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World bort321
n1 shoxie. He's still one of the most complete players together with olof and f0rest imho. Also stats don't lie.
2016-01-08 21:54
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#381
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Europe AgainstNoBrain
+1000
2016-01-09 01:09
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#302
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Lithuania Art1337s
Shoxie BIG LOVE
2016-01-08 21:55
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#304
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Portugal KR33N
when going out the next operation ??
2016-01-08 21:56
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#312
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Kyrgyzstan Devilr0ck
This top 20 is a joke!
2016-01-08 22:03
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2 replies
#320
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World Jolly Roger
Nope
2016-01-08 22:09
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1 reply
#324
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Kyrgyzstan Devilr0ck
shox is a joke
2016-01-08 22:12
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#314
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North America sharpah
hltv drops ranking from last year ranking. soo idk wat to say about this. he wasnt even in 2015.
2016-01-08 22:03
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#317
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Poland k4usz
n1 shoxie
2016-01-08 22:08
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#322
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Ukraine lancee
ROFL nice top20 hltv, what a fucking joke
2016-01-08 22:10
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#326
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
well at least it's not xtrfy's rank
2016-01-08 22:20
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#325
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Austria gex0r
shoxie fanboys madazfuck
2016-01-08 22:20
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#327
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
fans mad? he should be #19 max. kek
2016-01-08 22:21
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#328
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Ex6TenZ | 
Finland qBeY
najs
2016-01-08 22:23
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#346
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Turkey powergs
Hahahahah GTR top1 inc sucha a bs i like shoxie but he is better than flamie hahahah NO FAKING WAY
2016-01-08 23:04
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#349
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Portugal rjqnr
so your saying me shox>flamie. ok den
2016-01-08 23:15
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#350
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Canada favelab0y
Shouldnt even be in the top 20 rofl
2016-01-08 23:17
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#359
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Europe t.o.p
deserves a better team
2016-01-08 23:38
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#360
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Portugal DavidR747
Titan.ShoxxieJesus how good he was ... miss the old times where an ace in a pistol was the normal thing for shox. :(
2016-01-08 23:40
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#362
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Vietnam djleo95
2016-01-08 23:50
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#365
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United States luckypig
get_right will be the next
2016-01-09 00:06
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#366
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Finland iNFERNOh
way too high for this cheater rip [*]
2016-01-09 00:12
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#368
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New Zealand skizor
get_right #1 getting closer and closer
2016-01-09 00:17
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#371
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Brazil woody77
FANBASE TOP20 NICE LOGIC HLTV.ORG 1.pasha 2.GTR 3.KennyS 4.device 5.olof 6.ScreaM 7.s1mple 8.flusha 9.Taz 10.GuardiaN 11.nothing 12.Karrigan 13.shox ...
2016-01-09 00:33
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#379
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JW | 
United States theobill1
JW should be in top 5 now. He got a lot of fans now. Olof,JW,Scream,Nothing got more fans than device
2016-01-09 00:58
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#372
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Netherlands s4uce-1g-
Just titanfall
2016-01-09 00:34
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#375
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f0rest | 
Poland ksk111
Next one is fer
2016-01-09 00:43
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#377
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JW | 
United States theobill1
HAhaHAhaHAha. Is this a joke? in 2015? Are you kidding me? So he is better than Ska,Forest,Flamie and CajunB this year? THIS YEAR? in 2015? AHAHAHAHAHA
2016-01-09 00:55
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#378
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JW | 
United States theobill1
"versatile high level play and solid numbers on the big stages" YEAH I AM A BIG FAN but not in 2015 HLTV. lol. He didn't do anything in 2015. JOKE of the YEAR
2016-01-09 00:56
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#383
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device | 
Europe AgainstNoBrain
u cant read or u didnt read ? stats dont lie baby
2016-01-09 01:11
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#382
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device | 
Europe AgainstNoBrain
Congratz guy even if it was not a great year u clearly deserve it
2016-01-09 01:10
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If Coldzero and Fallen don't make this list its BS.
2016-01-09 01:33
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#389
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Russia agrias03
what a joke
2016-01-09 02:51
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i really wonder who's picking the players for this list:D i would really put the grandpa Taz (despite i am polish and i am not even cherish for VP) than this baguette tard, who was reliable year ago :). This ranking is joke for sure :D. 1st aprill is still ahead of us guys :D. Why not peak RPK, who is better than shox despite he is killing his own teammates :D
2016-01-09 03:59
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#395
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Australia A_L111
people say he didn't have a great year but still makes 13th?
2016-01-09 04:10
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#396
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United States tiremon112
100% kennys gonna be top 1 and olof 2 Lmao so easy to predict
2016-01-09 04:13
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#397
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Macau 5jai
shoxJESUS <3
2016-01-09 04:37
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#402
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f0rest | 
Iran JKWoWiaN
gj shoxie
2016-01-09 07:03
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#406
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World spyfLy
Truth is, let's imagine if everyone spoke the same language in this world, and everyone got perfectly fine along with each other. Let's then imagine that Pronax wants to create a new team, where he's the IGL. Let's imagine that, among others (but not those going to be higher on the list) that the following players are free agents: Skadoodle, allu, apEX, Neo, f0rest, cajunb, flamie, Shox. First player Pronax would be pick would be allu or Skadoodle, cos then he has the AWP-role set (close choice, both are world class with the awp). Next player he would choose would be Shox. No doubt about it. Just because of his raw skill is higher than the rest. Yes, shox had a bad year this year. Still if you forget what a legend he is, and just look objectively on his performances this year, it's still very good. That's why he deserves this 13th spot.
2016-01-09 08:38
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#409
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Argentina ZaraLarsson
no, next he would choose would be f0rest 100% sure lol
2016-01-09 09:59
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#415
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World spyfLy
Not really. Remember we imagine everyone speak same langugage etc. 2014 Shox Lan: 1,12 rating . 2015: 1.09 rating 2014 f0rest lan: 1,10 rating . 2015: 1,06 rating. Then add to that, that Shox was the entry-fragger of EnvyUs, where f0rest had friberg to do that job, and the skill-difference become even more obvious. Also in 2015 until July when EnvyUs shuffled up, shox and EnvyUs crushed NiP overall by a good margin. Beating them continously. And f0rest is supposed to be the star player of NiP along with get_right. Also overall Shox is easily the most intelligent player, a lot better in clutch-situations than f0rest. Not saying that f0rest isn't intelligent, but shox is on another level. f0rest is a world class player, but shox has just been better in 2015 than him. No doubt about that. That's also why you see shox at higher placing than f0rest on this list, which I believe is very reasonable.
2016-01-09 11:22
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#408
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Argentina ZaraLarsson
anyone read the articles? because i'm not
2016-01-09 09:58
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#412
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Poland siema_eniu
ok
2016-01-09 11:11
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shox???
2016-01-09 11:25
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#417
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Bulgaria torstein
his dick is small thoe
2016-01-09 11:26
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shox top20? :o u wot m8? this is a joke
2016-01-09 11:36
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#419
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Vietnam stzzi
Memory shoxilon :D 16-0 dust2 vs HR.
2016-01-09 11:38
0
7/10
2016-01-09 12:50
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#425
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Netherlands xdanny
SHOX <3
2016-01-09 12:53
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#427
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frozen | 
France Santaclose
This is Bait Of The Year 2016
2016-01-09 13:06
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#435
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Australia ZeGerman27
"Pala, you sexy. No Problem" - Shox 2015
2016-01-09 13:52
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#450
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World 5Monkeys
Shox beeter than Flamie, nice rating!
2016-01-09 21:29
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#452
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France gombus
again, easily top 10 player, getting lower rating from HLTV...
2016-01-09 21:51
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#454
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JW | 
United States theobill1
BOT SHOX. UNDESERVING
2016-01-10 00:20
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www.fanobet.com/r/started Best betting site, no queues, fixed odds Good luck!
2016-01-10 17:05
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#459
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Nepal yuwannano
this guy is so handsome
2016-01-11 06:19
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#460
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Georgia santasfanv2
seized should be here
2016-01-11 16:57
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is it me or is shox a bit of a boring player like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow shox has 32 kills" but u can never remember them. can u remember a single olof kill ? but try guardian...u can see the flick i remember a guardian flick.
2016-01-21 13:57
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can someone send me the link to the 1st picture of shoxie from this article? Without that table and number #13 etc. ? Clean picture. From some tournament i belive.
2016-01-21 22:48
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#465
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France Quono
BAE <3 I think he ll be top 4 in 2016 rankings. What u think
2017-01-08 15:37
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