karrigan likely ruled out of ELEAGUE

5-6-2016 13:22

Finn "karrigan" Andersen will likely not be able to attend the entirity of ELEAGUE's Group C, kicking off on Tuesday, due to his ESTA application being denied.

Astralis are set to travel to Atlanta for ELEAGUE's Group C, which is starting in two days, although they might come one man short.

According to Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen's Tweet, his ESTA application, a system that permits citizens of 38 countries under the Visa Waiver Program to travel to the United States, was denied.

karrigan's ESTA application denied

Due to a recent change of conditions needed to meet in order for the application to be approved, karrigan cannot travel to the United States without a proper visa as he has traveled to Iran (under fnatic) in the past five years.

As he only has under two days to apply for a visa, it's highly likely he will not be able to travel to the United States in time for the kick-off of Group C, where Astralis is set to meet NRG in the first match at 18:00 on Tuesday, June 7th.

ELEAGUE's official rulebook states that teams are obliged to submit a five-man roster plus two substitutes and are allowed to substitute a player twice per season.

"as he has traveled to Iran in the past five years." top kekest

2016-06-05 13:23

60 replies

fucking america lul

2016-06-05 13:27

1 reply

rip T strats

2016-06-05 16:41

America fucking racists lol "Oh he has been to Iran, maybe he is a terrorist then, don't let him into our KFC's"

2016-06-05 13:27

41 replies

yeah man, i fucking agree with u, thats the most retarded thing ever i dont believe that this happened, fuck usa bro

2016-06-05 13:54

38 replies

but but 9/11 ;(((... fuck usa

2016-06-05 14:00

36 replies

yeah man, just because MAYBE some guys killed 3.000 ppl, they think that they can kill millions and steal oil, man, they are fucking trash

2016-06-05 14:02

30 replies

ikr, i honestly believe that 1 (non terrorist) Iranian is worth more than 1 amerifag

2016-06-05 14:05

10 replies

Nah thats bullshit. All people have equal worth, by saying that theyre not you are just putting yourself down to their level

2016-06-05 15:11

1 reply

2016-06-05 20:05

Stfu U.K your country is literally the reason Iran has has problems.

2016-06-05 21:02

7 replies

I support Trump 4Head

2016-06-05 21:37

5 replies

I don't support Trump or Hillary I am just hoping Bernie comes through with some miracle win last second. But seriously when U.S tried to make a democracy in Iran you made them pull out saying you wouldn't be U.S ally anymore because Britain wouldn't be making 90% of the money off oil.

2016-06-05 21:47

4 replies

Britain's pull out game is on point!

2016-06-06 03:02

1 reply

it would be better if their pull out game was on point during the fuckfest that gave merica to the world

2016-06-06 09:38

hahahaha not even allow game player to visit your great country, what a liberal and democratic dream land.

2016-06-06 07:56

1 reply

He can come he just has to get his visa dipshit

2016-06-07 01:21

Did you really just say that? An American saying UK is why Iran has problems you have a brain?

2016-06-06 09:28

Says lg fan lolololol the irony

2016-06-05 14:21

11 replies

and? u are saying that i'm like bush just because i like a team of my country? i didnt understand, honestly, can u explain? or will u be racist? lets see if i understand, u are saying that because brazil is a "violent" country or because u are the typical HLTV guy that say that every LG fan is monkey?

2016-06-05 14:24

10 replies

Just ignore him, so much mindless hate on this site

2016-06-05 14:35

5 replies

yeah i know, but i just didnt understand this random hate, we werent even talking about LG, ROFL

2016-06-05 14:36

3 replies

Well when ppl disagree with what you say but don't have any counter arguments, they'll just insult what they can see about you, and cos we are on HLTV, they can only see your country and team you like so they insult u based on that, at least that's what I think

2016-06-05 14:38

2 replies

yeah, u are 100% right

2016-06-05 14:39

1 reply

Wow cry me a river. I'm sorry your feelings were hurt after being hateful and regarded yourself toward Americans. Fuck off monkey

2016-06-05 20:34

like this entire topic?

2016-06-05 18:26

and your implying that just because someone happens to be born within this landmass and border that they are as big of a piece of shit as the government that resides over it. just as illogical

2016-06-05 20:43

3 replies

not saying that, i'm saying that if u support this, then yes, its like hitler and germany but anyways, where i live there's no violence at all, but everyone thinks about rio and there has a lot, but brazil isnt just 1 city. Also, u can see that the brazilian government doesnt kill someone just because they're from another country or this type of thing, the population that do this and nobody support this

2016-06-06 00:43

2 replies

ok it felt like that was the implication and sry if it wasnt. and yeah i feel your pain with that. People from small countries seem to have a hard time grasping how different it can be from different places in bigger countries. In smaller countries you are able to stereotype people as a whole within the country (still dumb but at least a little effective) but in bigger countries like the US and Brazil it can literally be like being in a different country by visiting different areas. In a bigger country no area, or people can fall under one stereotype or another. It is just too drastically different from place to place. But i can see how tahts hard for people who have never really left their small countries way of life to understand.

2016-06-06 01:01

1 reply

Hey mate, drunk Australia here, how bout all you cunts have a biffo and then eat some tucker and a bevvy and just relax.

2016-06-06 02:58

Hey don't blame the people, not all of us like it or agree with it. I don't know if you noticed, but our government is fucking retarded and they don't really care much about the people so they just do what they want

2016-06-05 17:42

6 replies

U mean all americans are like that, none of you got a real IQ.

2016-06-05 18:14

4 replies

That's not true and you know it.

2016-06-05 18:48

The vitriolic and pejorative nature of your opinions reflect the dogmatic anti-American sentiments that run awry in this disgusting hellhole.

2016-06-05 20:11

2 replies

Calm down there, he can barely speak English. Don't upset him.

2016-06-05 20:59

1 reply

Hehe you again bro <3

2016-06-05 21:36

i'm not blaming u, just the government and who support them because of this

2016-06-06 00:45

bush did 9/11

2016-06-05 15:13

That's Iraq Still doesn't surprise me that you would be that wrong, it's HLTV after all.

2016-06-05 15:22

2 replies

What is? Saudi Arabia did 911.

2016-06-05 18:43

1 reply

Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti (Arabic: صدام حسين عبد المجيد التكريتي Ṣaddām Ḥusayn ʿAbd al-Maǧīd al-Tikrītī;[note 1] 28 April 1937[note 2] – 30 December 2006) was the fifth President of Iraq, Please just go kill yourself, since your intelligence is that of a sunflower.

2016-06-05 19:59

that was an inside job :x

2016-06-05 15:49

I was so excited to see the new Astralis lineup play...

2016-06-05 17:15

i mean its somewhat logical.. hes coming to the US to plant Bombs in mostly western countries and shoot the police while doing so

2016-06-05 19:24

"Oh he has been to Iran, maybe he is a terrorist then, don't let him into our KFC's" Xdddddddddddddddddddd so much

2016-06-06 18:09

america smartest country and totally not retarded :D

2016-06-05 13:33

Yeah lmao, like playing Counter-Strike, a terrorist based game isnt anymore of a safetyrisk than one trip to Iran for your org...

2016-06-05 14:20

Don't the team have a manager to figure out this shit well before the event???

2016-06-05 14:41

7 replies

E-sports 4Head

2016-06-05 15:12

exactly. what the fuck do orgs do if they don't deal with this shit?

2016-06-05 16:36

5 replies

Rules were introduced like two months ago. Gaining entrance to the US is a maze of rules and shit, not being aware of a two month new rule that is pretty much insane is excuseable imo.

2016-06-05 16:43

4 replies

Apparently Friis and Moddi were with Karrigan in fnatic when they went to Iran. And they're going to Eleage (with SK) I think. Weird if they have no problems.

2016-06-05 16:55

3 replies

It's not weird, the process with ESTA is a bit random, you are very unlikely to enter the US if you've been to Iran but it's not 100% so I guess it went ok for them. Two of my friend went together in Holidays to Iran and decided to visit Boston only for two days, one got refused his ESTA while the other got approuved

2016-06-05 18:38

2 replies

Them esta guys be like: just look at this guy's picture... Looks like terrorist... Denied

2016-06-06 10:52

1 reply

I'm sure there are more than that, they are very careful indeed. But frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it was only resumed to that

2016-06-06 12:09

RIP

2016-06-05 16:28

What about other boys from that fnatic Iran's terrorists?

2016-06-05 20:25

youtube.com/watch?v=G1UBCjyIr-w

2016-06-06 00:46

r.i.p. my country gotta ruin everything

2016-06-06 06:09

... RIP

2016-06-06 07:38

easy

2016-06-06 11:00

ffgf

2016-06-05 13:22

Sad to hear, hope someone can replace him

2016-06-05 13:22

Ez g1ave? edit Why would he go to Iran?

2016-06-05 13:23

19 replies

PR thing for fnatic when he still played with them

2016-06-05 13:30

Why wouldnt he go to Iran, if he had the chance (PR tour with Fnatic). Iran is a really interesting country.

2016-06-05 16:23

16 replies

Wtf is PR?

2016-06-05 16:26

15 replies

pr tour, public relationship, they go around the world advertising the teams and getting sponsors etc.

2016-06-05 16:30

12 replies

And they did it in Iran of all places?

2016-06-05 16:32

11 replies

Have you ever been in Iran? You have no idea what Iran clearly is. It is not Irak or Afganistan.

2016-06-05 16:36

10 replies

Iraq > Iran what the hell is he doing in Iran ffs ?

2016-06-05 16:41

3 replies

"Iraq > Iran" ignorant fuck huh.

2016-06-05 17:08

1 reply

2016-06-05 17:08

Iran is nowhere nearby as fucked up as Iraq. There is bo Americans there after all...

2016-06-06 22:05

I didn't mean it like that dumbass I ment like if they wanna get there names out there they sould do it in Poland, Sweden, USA, Franch and other countrys where they have Orgs and intresst in CS

2016-06-05 17:26

3 replies

Well they had a good org already at that point. Pretty sure it was about sponsor money. Might have been f.e. a tour with Nvidia/Intel etc.

2016-06-05 17:37

2 replies

ok. sorry for calling u dumbass

2016-06-05 17:51

1 reply

2016-06-05 17:55

It's worse. They hate Western countries.

2016-06-05 21:38

1 reply

You clearly know what you are talking about. Thnx for the input.

2016-06-06 11:19

Public Rape You're welcome

2016-06-05 16:32

1 reply

Ok now i understand why they did it in Iran :D

2016-06-05 16:33

they came for a tournament organized by MSI

2016-06-05 20:42

2016-06-05 13:22

RiP KarriGod

2016-06-05 13:22

WTF????

2016-06-05 13:22

rip

2016-06-05 13:22

nio

2016-06-05 13:22

rip

2016-06-05 13:22

lol

2016-06-05 13:22

rip

2016-06-05 13:22

lol

2016-06-05 13:22

terrorist?

2016-06-05 13:22

The thing with the Visas are absolut dogshit ffs fuck them!

2016-06-05 13:23

rip

2016-06-05 13:22

lel

2016-06-05 13:22

why JW :(

2016-06-05 13:22

bunch of autists above

2016-06-05 13:22

cadian aimgod standin

2016-06-05 13:22

2 replies

Juliano aim queen better stanin

2016-06-05 13:27

gla1ve will be standing in obviously

2016-06-05 14:04

fail

2016-06-05 13:22

rip

2016-06-05 13:22

Striker u getting slow fam

2016-06-05 13:22

What the hell was he doing in iran? lol

2016-06-05 13:22

8 replies

PR stuff for fnatic in 1.6 era

2016-06-05 13:23

6 replies

PR?

2016-06-05 15:29

3 replies

public relations , aka videos and stuff

2016-06-05 15:39

1 reply

2016-06-06 02:30

hltv kids so ignorant, they dont even know what is PR LUL

2016-06-05 17:03

2016-06-05 16:26

1 reply

yeah that's what i mean nvm

2016-06-05 16:25

pr thing with fnatic years ago..

2016-06-05 13:24

Can't believe they denied him just because he go to Iran

2016-06-05 13:23

15 replies

+1, Iran ain't even a bad country compared to for example Irak or Afghanistan...

2016-06-05 16:15

14 replies

it is .. lol

2016-06-05 16:41

13 replies

No it isn't retard

2016-06-05 17:22

7 replies

it is

2016-06-05 18:44

6 replies

youtube.com/watch?v=nbjVrm6XS_A Frizaa JIDF confirmed

2016-06-05 20:30

5 replies

every country has really nice places, still dangerous to go to iran

2016-06-05 23:50

4 replies

well the citizens love americans. government not so much.

2016-06-06 06:12

3 replies

Really, they do? Government really hates the US :( Mullahs too :((

2016-06-06 17:10

2 replies

yeah fuck the mullahs iranians themselves hate them. I'm not muslim and neither is any of my family (in the us). the difference between my family in Iran and USA is drastically different. some ppl are legit brainwashed by the evil fkin mullahs that the west is devil, religion is the only answer, etc. My family in Germany and swedistan are much more secular than those in iran. muslims are alright iranians are alright usa and all europe is alright its the fkin mullah goat fuckers in charge of the government that ruin the rep of iranians.

2016-06-06 18:58

1 reply

Bummer. In US as you probably figure we only get news stories of mullahs calling America the "Great Satan" and what not because it's kinda shocking. Glad to hear that though, changes my view a lot :) Governments tend to be worse than their actual citizens most of the time it seems, including the US. Have a good one. Side Note: I don't have anything against most muslims, but wahhabism seems to be... not too good :/ But from what I hear that's all coming mostly from Saudi Arabia :P

2016-06-06 22:00

It's not

2016-06-05 17:23

2 replies

sry but it is

2016-06-05 18:45

1 reply

You never hear any bad news from there.. It's not dangerous in Iran, it's dangerous in Irak and Afghanistan but not Iran, that's the truth.

2016-06-06 10:21

COMPARED TO

2016-06-05 18:57

5 Shekels have been deposited in your bank account. oh veyyy

2016-06-05 22:43

gj america as usual with ur stupid laws.

2016-06-05 13:23

3 replies

Stupid Laws? Maybe if Francr had these "stupid" laws you guys wouldn't have gotten attacked by terrorists

2016-06-05 21:21

2 replies

because other countries never get attacked by terrorists.... instead of blaming normal people. go fucking blame the terrorists themselves . fucking retards in this site

2016-06-05 22:13

You do realize that France has had way less terrorist attacks on their soil than USA, right?

2016-06-05 23:22

ANELE

2016-06-05 13:23

not more lans in Americanos

2016-06-05 13:23

HEZBOLLAH CONFIRMED

2016-06-05 13:23

2 replies

"Terrorists win"

2016-06-05 13:26

1 reply

ayy lmao

2016-06-05 13:27

Omg! This is just ridiculous!

2016-06-05 13:23

HUNDEN incoming

2016-06-05 13:23

Astralis always unlucky rip

2016-06-05 13:23

Call me up, I can play if Karrigan can't go.

2016-06-05 13:23

NA visas FailFish

2016-06-05 13:23

1 reply

This isn't a visa this is an esta much easier to get if Karrigan cared more he should have gotten a visa

2016-06-05 21:09

Must be cadian going den... Rip TSM

2016-06-05 13:23

Cadian Inc?

2016-06-05 13:23

RiP Karr-iran

2016-06-05 13:24

hes muslim so no travel NA)

2016-06-05 13:24

rip

2016-06-05 13:24

Andersen cannot travel to the United States without a proper visa as he has traveled to Iran in the past five years.

2016-06-05 13:24

USA! USA! USA! God I love this chant. Haha

2016-06-05 13:24

Murica land of freedom hahahahha

2016-06-05 13:24

I guess Karrigan wanted to practise T side in Iran.

2016-06-05 13:24

fuck politics

2016-06-05 13:25

James "Yet to frag bardolph" is ready

2016-06-05 13:25

1 reply

James "Yet to frag" Bardolph*

2016-06-05 14:09

l;ol

2016-06-05 13:25

Travelled to Iran the fuck

2016-06-05 13:26

karriran

2016-06-05 13:26

Astralis sandeN

2016-06-05 13:27

Thats why we all hate Events taking place in America!

2016-06-05 13:27

Anders to Astralis Confirmed

2016-06-05 13:27

ROLF!

2016-06-05 13:27

Elegiggle NA Elegiggle Visa Elegiggle

2016-06-05 13:27

fuck US and their visa shit. srsly

2016-06-05 13:27

7 replies

I agree tbh. Always problems like this with american tournaments that NEVER happens in EU tournaments. And the chants are annoying as fuck too. Fuck NA hosted tournaments.

2016-06-05 13:37

6 replies

+12312312312312312312312313131

2016-06-05 16:01

we actually monitor who comes to our country. We don't like to let in terrorists and rapists like sweden

2016-06-05 19:21

2 replies

+1, karrigan would blow up towers 100%

2016-06-05 22:39

1 reply

agree we cant let him terrorize NA teams

2016-06-05 22:57

It's funny, because everyone here complaining about this are the same people yelling about not letting any muslims into the EU anymore and that it's ruining their countries etc. Same shit, different stink.

2016-06-07 02:38

1 reply

Give me examples.

2016-06-07 05:37

ez 4 ence

2016-06-05 13:28

Gla1ve must be the best replacement. I mean, they are already using him for the major, so they are practicing with him a bit, and in the other way this is good practice for the major. Besides, he plays for CPHW, which isn't that important. Besides, he is IGL, and with zonic calling main strats as he is knows how to use the players best, then Gla1ve could mix it up a bit, also making it difficult for enemies to read them.

2016-06-05 13:28

+k0nfig

2016-06-05 13:28

wtf was he doing in iran?

2016-06-05 13:28

There should be someone in charge to make logical decisions. They should look at the reason why he was in Iran and the fact that he was in the US just earlier this year, fucking stupid. For those that don't know he was in Iran for some PR thing for fnatic with Friis and MODDII. I wonder if these applications are even looked at by real people or just put through a program to check of tick boxes.

2016-06-05 13:28

1 reply

They changed that rule recently but ESTA's are so easy to get thats why they had heavy monitoring on it. Karrigan could have probably easily gotten a visa.

2016-06-05 21:10

Murica! Insecurity on a national scale!

2016-06-05 13:28

I had no idea that the American system was THAT racist! That is crazy! "...as he has traveled to Iran in the past five years".

2016-06-05 13:28

77 replies

How's that racist? This has nothing to do with racism. Iran is a terrorist nation that is known for supporting terrorist organizations like Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. Iran also tried to acquire a nuclear weapon but USA along with nations like Germany,UK and Russia stopped Iran from developing one.

2016-06-05 13:35

76 replies

Wow, a CSGO player goes to do PR stuff for his team 5 years ago and has no links to terrorism.

2016-06-05 13:39

19 replies

If someone told you a Danish citizen visited Iran, you would ask yourself "Why the fuck would he do that?" This is exactly what USA is doing as well. It is more than a legitimate question to raise as there's literally no reason for an ordinary Danish citizen to visit Iran. Obviously we know that he's not a threat, but USA can't know this. For all they know, all this "pro gaming" stuff could be just a cover up story. Also, it's not like Karrigan is banned from visiting USA. He just has to apply for a normal VISA.

2016-06-05 13:58

18 replies

Pro gaming is not some fucking underground ring. It's well-broadcast to millions of people every single day, easily viewable to every single American on the internet. I know you're just a person suffering from the mental disease that has crippled mankind for a while, which is patriotism, but literally nobody cares for your flimsy defense of your country's retarded excuses. It's (I reckon) a government institution that handles these applications, and these applications are important to the players, since this is their career. The least they can do is google "karrigan" or "finn andersen" or something of the like, and read one or two pages of his history, and the reason he went to Iran, instead of just putting an automatic "denied" stamp on every fucking European who has gone to Iran for some reason, who otherwise has NO ties to Iran. But no, yeah, guys, let's just completely exclude Iran, let's demonize them and vilify them, and even if any person so much as comes NEAR Iran, let's deny them entry into our country to come and play a videogame in a heavily broadcast tournament with thousands of people constantly monitoring him. This kind of hugely xenophobic dickhead-ish attitude is totally what is gonna solve all this conflict the world has with the Middle East, and make normal people living in Iran (and the other countries nearby) like our countries so much! Yeaaah, no, fuck yourself. This attitude is inexcusable, and lazy, and even though the U.S. government is notoriously ass backwards and lazy and absolute in issues dealing with ANY shade other than black and white, this kind of shit is retarded even for them.

2016-06-05 14:15

13 replies

Holy fuck you're stupid. Pro gaming has absolutely 0 reputation in the world as a credible sport or a profession. Only the past year, it has started to gain attention from the mainstream media. Telling someone you went to Iran to play video games, sounds suspicious as fuck to anyone that has no clue what pro gaming actually is. This is what i can tell you, most of the regular people don't even know up to this day that you can have a successful career as a pro gamer or that it's even a viable career option.

2016-06-05 14:22

12 replies

I'm stupid, because you don't think your country's entire government and government institutions can use the internet? Haha, sure bud, keep sipping the Kool-Aid; that's all your tiny peanut brain can do, instead of managing any logical thought. If you really feel like you've got the upper hand in this argument by claiming "my entire country is run by the biggest retards to ever be put into positions of power", then I bow down to you. Oh, wait, no, you're a retarded sycophantic apologist. My point is not that e-sports is on the caliber of actual sports, and I do not give a single iota of a fuck what "reputation" it has to those same idiots that I'm disapproving of. The argument against "the U.S. government is retarded" is not "the U.S. government is retarded in terms of how they view these specific things". I literally do not care what "reputation" your country - filled from one side to the other with mentally ill people (like you) with their absolutely bone-headed beliefs - has towards e-sports. What I care about is the fact that they deny visas to somebody for their career because of a general "attitude" towards something, instead of uhh, I don't know, fucking CHECKING for EMPIRICAL evidence? My bad, you're too retarded to know what "empirical evidence" is; you think it's justified to treat everyone using some preconceived biases. Also, you didn't address any other point that I made, besides "e-sports doesn't have a reputation in my country so we can continue to demonize regular europeans who've been to iran lel xDDDDD ecks dee", so I'm inclined to let you do that before I continue wasting my brain cells with your brand of narrow-sighted ignorance and retardation.

2016-06-05 14:44

10 replies

2016-06-05 14:57

I respect the grind. Youre a wise man

2016-06-05 16:15

1 reply

Thanks. I like typing. :^)

2016-06-05 16:17

Lol too advanced nomenclature, no further response :DD +1 ofc

2016-06-05 16:20

2016-06-05 17:27

the rekt is complete. wp

2016-06-05 22:41

If you want to be taken serious you should cut down on the insults. It is pretty obvious that you do not know anything about the ESTA program. The ESTA program stands for Electronic System for Travel Authorization. You have already exposed your ignorance by writing that you assume people are in charge of handling the applications - this i not the case hence the name. The ESTA-program is a "shot-cut" visa program for certain countries making the it easier to obtain a VISA for the US online. The alternative to ESTA is going through normal visa-procedure. Karrigan would most likely be admitted through normal VISA-procedure as it is handled by embassy workers in the respective country. Karrigan/Astralis is solely to blaim here as it is common knowledge, that the VISA program do not apply for people having visited Iran, Iraq etc. during the last 5 years. This is pretty common in western countries due the rising threat of fundamentalists getting trained in some countries commit terror attacks. If you find this wrong - you are most likely the retarded one. You might think this is stupid - i do not - but i do think you are stupid for being a dick online without having the slightest idea of what you are talking about. Go educate yourself instead of being a dick :)

2016-06-06 11:58

2 replies

I have no problem with an apologist like you not taking me seriously. Literally do not care even a TINY bit, and thus, I will continue to insult people. They're free to do so back at me; I don't place unnecessary stigma on aggression. So, let me try to understand your point here. You're saying that the ESTA system denies everyone who has been to, what, nigh every Middle-Eastern country at any point a travel authorization? And you think that my contention that this system is ridiculously primitive and useless in almost every way because it penalizes you for harmless career-related trips due to the fact that "the most productive country in the world" can't put people with brains to checking the applications is somehow unjustified? And you think this blanket system that penalizes people based on easily-explained publicized trips is somehow defensible? Hahahahahahaha, I'm sorry, but...I understand you saying that the application system is electronic and automated, but everything about that system itself is...simply put, stupid. But uhh, sure, dude. Keep on thinking that the U.S. having automated systems that penalize completely innocent people (Europeans, I might add) just for associating in ANY way with a whole big country full of innocent people just because terrorist groups happen to be from there brings America any sort of positive reputation or benefit in international relations. Like I said to Raptoor: keep sipping the Kool-Aid, bro. ;)

2016-06-08 17:05

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You should grow up and learn to communicate - to anyone with a little brain you are making an absolute fool of yourself due to the way you talk to people. I get it... you don't care. Well someday, if you wanna go somewhere in life - you might. Take it or leave it. I am only trying to give you a heads up :). Your intire rant that begins with “ESTA system denies everyone who has been to, what, every Middle-Eastern country at any point a travel authorization?” makes no sense at all. First of all I have never said anything about all Middle East countries but from certain countries yes. Makes sense as you want to focus your energy on being extra thorough where there might be reason to. If someone has been to Syria during the past 5 years - they should not be admitted through ESTA. Simple stuff and easy to understand. Chances are a tiny percentage went to fight for ISIS. On the other hand if you went to do business in Damascus or whatever, provide documentation for it and apply through normal visa. I do not see the problem here. Better safe than sorry. This is not about sipping the cool-aid. I work for the danish district attorney and right now there is an ongoing trial against a returning ISIS-fighter. It is all too real i am afraid. The ESTA system does not at all penalize anyhing. You are again talking about something you know very little of. Makes you look... well stupid? to put in your own words. A final suggestion: how about you educate yourself on the ESTA-system instead of assuming things that are not real. I know you are probably too lazy but hey - it might be good for you to evolve beyond that. Here is an actual reason to do so.

2016-06-09 14:25

The funniest part is you think real people look at these applications.

2016-06-08 14:57

usa world police fuck you

2016-06-05 14:55

Why would one visit Iran? If one is a student of world history and religion there are plenty of reasons to visit Iran. I don't know what burgers know but Zoroastran religion started in Iran (before Islam). Zoroastrian religion greatly influenced judaism and Christianity. First dualistic religion with 7 angels; concept of heaven and hell... They are shia and they have great respect for their ancestors. Unlike sunni IS who destroy all great shrines in Irak. I would like to visit Persepolis. Now you're gonna make joke about my nickname it started because I go yolo in bombsite B and plant the bomb solo.

2016-06-05 14:20

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indeed i dont get why people are so suprised, its known that he went there because of fnatic, but he could have went there to visit the country..

2016-06-05 14:56

I think you should start focusing on your own american terrorists that shoot up schools, since more people die from school shootings in your country every year than terrorists.

2016-06-05 14:42

i would imagine a trump voter as someone like you terrorist nation..classic

2016-06-05 22:35

USA created al-qaeda and ISIS, tell my again why a danish person should be denied for visitig Iran?

2016-06-05 13:42

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U.S created al-qaeda how? When they were forced to pull out of Iran when they were trying to establish a democracy because Britain said if you help Iran we will not help you if you go to war against russia. I dont understand how you actually believe the U.S created al-qaeda

2016-06-05 21:13

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Fucking google or wikipedia it or whatever the fuck you want, USA trained Osama Binladen and the rest of al-qaeda. You gave them wepons to fight the russians with etc, you created them and they backfired on your ass like every other fucking thing 'muricans does.

2016-06-07 13:02

How is that not racist? They are essentially saying that anyone who is in any way affiliated to anyone Iranian, is a terrorist or a threat. Just because a minority of a population is affiliated to terrorism, does not mean that the entire freaking country, and anyone who travels there, is. Next, we will have America ban anyone from entering USA if they have been to Holland or Belgium in the last five years. It is exactly due to such regulations and reactions that we have extremism in the first place. WE (in large part due to USA´s reaction in general) created extremism, whether we like it or not.

2016-06-05 13:47

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USA isn't implying all Iranian people are terrorists. But WHAT WE KNOW, IS THAT the chance of someone becoming a terrorist by visiting Iran IS MUCH HIGHER, compared to other countries around the world. IF you wanted to become a terrorist, Iran is on your top3 list of places to visit. This has nothing to do with the color of the people living there, or their race. Paying extra attention to people visiting a country like Iran is really fucking logical.

2016-06-05 14:06

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EXTRA ATTENTION, which they DIDN'T pay, you fucking mentally ill fuckhead. They denied an ESTA visa to a person who has an EXTREMELY PUBLIC CAREER, and who went to Iran for an EXTREMELY PUBLIC REASON. They can CHECK exactly WHY Karrigan went to Iran. This isn't some guy who was found to have gone to Iran, alone, for reasons unknown. They can CHECK why he went there, you absolute fucking braindead retard. And yes, I am actually mad, because I know there's millions of fucking inbred sycophantic fucktards like you strewn all over a country whose culture I like, and that makes me feel conflicted and, in turn, pissed off.

2016-06-05 14:19

Right, where is that data? Please point me in the direction of the data (from a credible source!) that clearly indicates that people who visit Iran over for instance Germany, is more likely to become a terrorist. So far, all I hear and have heard is a lot of assumptions, nothing more. Which is the EXACT same as racism.

2016-06-05 14:27

3 replies

How about common sense?

2016-06-06 14:50

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Right, so it is common sense to generalise? Whatever you are drinking, please do keep it to yourself.

2016-06-06 20:53

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It can never be racism to discriminate on nationality.

2016-06-06 21:29

WHAT WE KNOW, IS THAT the chance of the USA starting a war with another country IS MUCH HIGHER compared to other countries around the world

2016-06-05 14:58

2 replies

Fair point - let`s ban them from exiting USA, lol.

2016-06-06 10:20

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Maybe because both your countries dont have strong enough militaries to protect yourself, leading an ally (such as the US, Great Britian, China, or Russia) to step in and help protect you.

2016-06-08 15:04

No, in no way do most people (had to change all people to most people due to the illy uninformed) think that all iranians are a threat, the visa policy is a safety net designed to catch all threats, but if you want to make an omelet you have to crack a few eggs. The way we do it, its guranteed to catch people who are not threats, and I think thats why you see he ended up getting a visa.

2016-06-08 15:02

You do now know the internationally acknowledged legal definition of racism if you believe racism is discriminating people because of nationality. Go educate yourself before posting.

2016-06-06 14:45

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Right, you may want to do a double take on that buddy. If this is not xenophobia or discrimination then I don´t know what the fuck it is. Grow a brain fucktard.

2016-06-06 21:00

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But you said it was racism - and you are wrong. Please educate yourself :)

2016-06-06 21:37

USA is a terrorist nation that is known for supporting terrorist organizations like ISIS. USA also acquired a nuclear weapon which they used on civilians.

2016-06-05 13:50

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If atom bombs had not been dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the americans would have had to lead a sea to ground assault much like D-Day, where casualities were estimated upwards of a million. The bombs dropping avoided this incredibly bloody conflict and killed less than the amount that would have died had the war continued.

2016-06-08 15:06

You're heroes , thanks for saving the world. We have not fuel dont try to save us pls.

2016-06-05 13:50

2016-06-05 13:52

fuck u bush everyone in usa is like u? "yeah, u need to kill terrorists, fuck middle east, we kill everyone, but we can" ROFL

2016-06-05 13:58

haha , even if we were terrorists , it has nothing to do with karrigan , they came here with some of his teammates , they played some games and then they were gone. and if he wanted to bomb uSA he could do it a long time ago

2016-06-05 14:06

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So because you tell the US government that "I WENT TO IRAN TO PLAY VIDEOGAMES" they shouldn't pay any attention to you? Are you actually serious? Let's just say that going to Iran as a Danish citizen to "play videogames" is one of the worst explanations ever for a visit.

2016-06-05 14:11

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Seek help.

2016-06-05 14:21

He has been to the US multiple times since then, why the fuck would they enforce such a rule now? Stop trying to defend the ass backwards braindead policies of the US

2016-06-05 17:30

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Thank you for seeing it clearly FrenchStars. Just because there is a policy, does not mean that we are not allowed to disagree with it, in order to change the situation for the better. If we never questioned anything that was imposed upon us, I could not even imagine the world that we would be living in right now.

2016-06-06 10:21

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Our country and most countries are doing the exact same thing. If you travel to certain countries you will be checked thoroughly. It seems no one on this board know the slightest about the ESTA-program. If you have been to countries such as Iran, Iraq etc. you cannot use the ESTA program. You have to apply through the US embassy like 85% of the world. This is common knowledge. If you are a progamer and travels the world - you get your VISA's sorted out. Common fucking sense. Please go educate yourself.

2016-06-06 12:28

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My point still stands, just because it is policy does NOT mean that we cannot question it nor try to affect change. If we never did, we would never further ourselves. I really do not give a flying duck about your wise-ass attitude, when all you can do is repeat knowledge you read, without applying your own logic to it. That does not make you smart, it just makes you a parrot. Go get recognition somewhere else.

2016-06-06 21:03

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Wise-ass attitude. Yeah lets just agree that you are ignorant and like to talk crap online. When it comes to not giving a "duck" about something - lets start with your personal opinion and "logic". Stop being butt-hurt when proven wrong. Educate yourself.

2016-06-06 21:36

"Try to affect change" on HLTV, lol good one.

2016-06-08 15:08

it was organized by MSI

2016-06-06 07:39

DADASHAMI

2016-06-05 20:55

Same can be said about KSA, they obviously fund al qaida and judging by the classified 9/11 investigation part about KSA it's pretty safe to say they played a part in 9/11. The US has no problem being an ally with them though, also a terrorist state. It's more of a geo-political conflict.

2016-06-05 14:10

terrorist nation.. in the 70's they were very progressive and liberal but you and russia HAD to fuck up middle east and they had conservative reaction. Iran is no worse than USA. the only reason Iran can't have nuclear power is because Israel fears picking on guys their own size and want full control over ME. long live iran to keep israel in check. USA created moehjahedeen and kick started the international jihad because USA and russia wanted to control afganistan. this is Iran in the 70's: 3.bp.blogspot.com/__e2VLp6gwyk/S_XAe1Hoa.. thanks!

2016-06-05 14:21

Burguer talking shit about other countries acquiring nuclear weapons, lmao ... get real fam

2016-06-05 14:12

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Having nuclear weapons isn't bad in itself. You have to understand the context you fucking 3rd worlder. Iran OPENLY SUPPORTS TERRORISM ACROSS THE WORLD, and has an extremist leader, YOU DO NOT EVER a country like this to have a nuclear weapon.

2016-06-05 14:16

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PLease compare the amount of invasion by Iran vs the amount of invasions by USA then tell me who's the most aggressive nation. please tell me the sole nation who actually used a nuke.

2016-06-05 14:25

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USA ! USA ! USA ! USA ! USA ! WOOOO

2016-06-05 15:05

Anyone who uses an argument such as "please tell me the sole nation who actually used a nuke." Is a braindead, no knowledge of history keyboard warrior. Firstly, many countries such as Russia and China (possibly the UK) have test fired nuclear weapons. Also, the bombs dropped upon Hiroshima and Nagasaki prevented a much, much more bloody conflict.

2016-06-08 15:12

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anybody who attacks by using ad hominems can't be too smart either. the end justifies the means. nice philosophy there. i partially agree with the tactic but if you do such things don't pretend to be a white knight and iran is a bad nation. no you're a killer nation prepared to go to extreme lengths to 'prevent more bloodshed'. I wouldn't judge you for doing what you did if you just admit that there are no 'good' nations out there. just slightly worse nations and a lot of propaganda. destroy japan their harbour and airports. what can they do that's so bloody? I understand USA targeted weapon factories. can't you do that with normal targeted bombs? like long ranged missiles fired from the mainland. in my mind it was just a testing nuke to see what actually happens when u use it on a city. you're argument of test firing is not relevant...

2016-06-08 15:24

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"A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson's staff by William Shockley estimated that conquering Japan would cost 1.7–4 million American casualties, including 400,000–800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. The key assumption was large-scale participation by civilians in the defense of Japan.[15]" Www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall Vs Hiroshima Nagasaki Pre-raid population 255,000 195,000 Dead 66,000 39,000 Injured 69,000 25,000 Total Casualties 135,000 64,000 atomicarchive.com/Docs/MED/med_chp10.sht.. 1.7 to 4 million americans and 5 to 10 million japanese or 200,000 japanese, which is favored in your eyes?

2016-06-08 15:44

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that's flawed. why would USA want to invade japan?? just destroy their airports and harbours and they can't do shit.. issue economic embargo and their economy is destroyed. it just feels like you USA wants to kill a bug for fun ://. if they didn't have nukes and their primary weapon silos are destroyed they can defend themselves only in guerilla warfare. who cares if they don't want to surrender when they can't do shit anymore?

2016-06-08 15:46

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"Why would USA want to invade japan?" Well you see, there was this thing called World War Two, the japanese attacked this place in the state of Hawaii called Pearl Harbor, and they continued to attack any US prescence in the Pacific. "just destroy their airports and harbours and they can't do shit.. issue economic embargo and their economy is destroyed." en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda The japanese are not the types of people to give up easily.

2016-06-08 15:53

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if you want to discuss with me pls give arguments. you quote me and give a link. i know the japanese don't give up easy. but if their weaponry is destroyed via air missiles and they can't trade with the rest of the world sooner or later they will surrender of give up their dream of economical power. don't compare pre-world war japan to post-world war japan. japan could do surprise attack on USA only because USA didn't expect it. if USA and russia dominate the japanese sea and control their airspace they are trapped until they stop the fighting. at that point the war is over with japan. they are defeated but not humbled. i guess USA wanted to go the extra mile and give a message like 'dont fuck with me i'll destroy u'. in nooo way china would ever have a military alliance with japan. korea and japan together? can't do shit. i don't defend japanese they were scumbags but at least they attacked soldiers.

2016-06-08 16:07

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Maybe you should just be an army general if youre so smart, maybe there is a reason that Operation Downfall was proposed the way it was. Firstly, the japanese had an incredibly strong air force, making control of the airspace not an easy task. The rest of your post isnt readable, just a bunch of run-ons. Lastly, my style of debate largely depends on counter arguements, meaning that I tend to quote and give reasons as to why one is incorrect. I tend to link, because I trust fact more than word of mouth.

2016-06-08 16:04

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i'm not smart lel. i'm no where near qualified for general. just i think it's a possibility to destroy their weaponry and harbour and airports with targeted missiles sparing civilians. if russia and usa worked together japan was destroyed in one month.

2016-06-08 16:05

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The first Intercontinental Ballistic Missile was not operational until 1958, Japan surrendered in 1945. Meaning destroying their weaponry with missiles was near impossible at the time. Which means air units would have to destroy their weaponry and weaken them, but the Japanese air force was too strong for that, so a ground invasion combined with naval and air attacks was really the only way to defeat Japan until the atom bomb came along.

2016-06-08 16:10

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first american who took the time to provide good arguments thank you you have changed my mind. but with arguments not because USA can't do something wrong.

2016-06-08 16:11

1 reply

When debate class finally pays off

2016-06-08 16:39

'having nuclear weapon isn't bad in itself' are you retarded? oh I forgot about the 'we have built weapons but wont use it' discuss

2016-06-05 14:31

1 reply

he is a typical american, its not worth to discuss with him..

2016-06-05 15:00

You are right. I find it disturbing that you receive so much shit for stating the facts. There is a lot of left-wing/un-educated ignorants online - luckily the vast majority is educated and refrain from online debates (makes sense). I only logged in to back you up and state some facts below - the average user here is just... beyond uninformed.

2016-06-06 12:23

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If only the vast majority was educated, then Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Donald Trump wouldnt be the last people standing to be the leader of the free world.

2016-06-08 15:13

2 replies

Well, i can only talk for my own country :)

2016-06-09 14:10

1 reply

Lol

2016-06-09 14:18

Seriously, no more events in 'murica pls. First was pyth missing a major. A FUCKING MAJOR. Then TyLoo missing Eleague, and now this. Fuck you usa

2016-06-05 13:30

4 replies

Pyth fucked up his visa on his own.

2016-06-05 13:33

Mongols too

2016-06-05 13:53

I concur, and what the heck would happen if an Iranian team tried to participate in the future? This is just crazy on a whole new level.

2016-06-05 14:37

1 reply

Well, they would definitely need some credibility and experience outside of Iran.

2016-06-08 15:14

USA most retarded country to exist holy shit

2016-06-05 13:30

Hahaha USA is at it again! karrigan is an Iranian spy :P

2016-06-05 13:30

hahaha gg ez

2016-06-05 13:33

rip

2016-06-05 13:33

with a mouth like that what he want?

2016-06-05 13:35

Murica strikes again

2016-06-05 13:35

WTF MURRICA PLEASE HAHAHAHHA

2016-06-05 13:36

cadian, has played as a stand-in before

2016-06-05 13:36

NA VISAS LOL

2016-06-05 13:38

3 replies

Its more of an ESTA problem, karrigan was just uneducated about rules put into place about two months ago. More or less his fault.

2016-06-08 17:15

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I found out about that later on, was just kidding though. heard that he applied for a visa something like 2 days before the actual event which was ridiculous to be honest.

2016-06-08 18:31

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Silly Karrigan, how does he expect to be able to IGL when he cant even get visas correctly.

2016-06-08 19:01

for people saying this is stupid. The rules got changed 2 months ago, 2 whole months. Its his fault that he didn't check. People saying this was about a visa. it isn't you get an esta in like 15 minutes. He never applied for a visa.

2016-06-05 13:39

Expected from stupid visa

2016-06-05 13:39

omg is this for real ?

2016-06-05 13:39

usa..................................

2016-06-05 13:40

JUST NA THINGS

2016-06-05 13:40

land of the freeeeeeeeeeeee

2016-06-05 13:40

In USA mind: going to Iran: obviously went to a terrorist seminar 4Head

2016-06-05 13:41

1 reply

heh a guy in california went to retarded arabia once and came back and killed all his co-workers.

2016-06-05 19:25

Basic murica :D what a retards

2016-06-05 13:43

karrigan is the core of this team LOL

2016-06-05 13:43

+NATOSAPHIX LETS FUCKING GO HE IGLS TOO WOOOOOO

2016-06-05 13:43

1 reply

Please stop

2016-06-08 17:16

Murica once again stopping people from enter their country because stupid rules

2016-06-05 13:43

Karrigan just dropped the bomb

2016-06-05 13:45

I think they are confused. He's from Denmark not Sweden.

2016-06-05 13:46

1 reply

Lollololl

2016-06-08 15:54

I understand North America needs to beat a European team but fuck man these tactics are beyond dirty.

2016-06-05 13:47

8 replies

Just let us play UK teams... we can beat LLL

2016-06-08 17:17

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That's not a UK team (Its second and third best players are but still not a full UK team or even top 1 in the UK scene).... Orgles5 is tho, But then again Sponsored US players which get paid to play the game need to beat a unsponsored team which has to work while playing, Just so you can beat an EU team. Fuck NA CS has FalleN quite far hasn't it....

2016-06-08 17:30

6 replies

C9 could 16-5 orgles5

2016-06-08 18:27

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Yes they could and? Over half of Orgle5s roster has been off the game for 1-3 years and they all work while playing? If that's an achievement for one of the biggest teams in NA then HOLY shit man.... I just feel sorry for you guys needing to beat a newly formed ESEA premium team like Damn. NA CS really needs a win don't it ;) Because we all know it won't be against the brazilians.

2016-06-08 18:48

4 replies

Cloud9 is almost there, literally lost to LG by 2 rounds, give it time, man.

2016-06-08 19:00

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Thats a saying older than time itself man... "C9 will do it, give it time" But it never does. Its like saying RattleSnks return will last longer than 2 months.

2016-06-08 19:08

2 replies

Slemmy is the answer

2016-06-08 19:08

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Yea they could do well but it depends on shroud and Skadoodle. TBH they are both distant from how they were back in 2015, but i don't think they have the determination to get back into their hold forms.

2016-06-08 19:13

gg iran

2016-06-05 13:48

karrigan to team-isis confirmed?

2016-06-05 13:48

2 replies

m.imgur.com/rnNBEJK?r Hltv confirmed

2016-06-05 14:05

1 reply

LOL

2016-06-06 05:39

...

2016-06-05 13:48

karma for that timeout at the major <3

2016-06-05 13:50

2 replies

Well, if Fnatic needs Karrigan's visa to be denied in order to beat them, what does that make them ? :^)

2016-06-05 14:04

1 reply

Dafuq? Fnatic is not in the same group as Astralis -.-

2016-06-05 17:05

Ridicolous rules. The U.S. in a nutshell

2016-06-05 13:50

13 replies

enjoy your country getting destroyed by terrorists, wouldn't like to be going to the euros right now, thats all im gonna say

2016-06-05 13:52

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tbh, i'd rather be in a country "destroyed by terrorists (ROFL, destroyed?)" than a fucking racist country that kills everyone just to get oil

2016-06-05 14:00

1 reply

Coming from South America.

2016-06-08 15:18

thanks man

2016-06-05 14:05

That's cool because we don't want retards like you here :)

2016-06-05 14:24

How bout all them school shootings...?

2016-06-05 16:08

tbh it's worse to be in your country considering the shootings happening once every 15 minutes.

2016-06-05 17:13

2 replies

source

2016-06-05 22:47

Lol, one every month last year, very few mass shootings this year, just gang violence in cities like Chicago, LA, Miami, and NYC that nobody since Rudy Juliani has even tried to stop.

2016-06-08 15:18

yup the terrorist walk into europe but they fly into the us :)

2016-06-05 20:27

enjoy your towers.. oh wait =X

2016-06-05 22:51

2 replies

wow so edgy

2016-06-06 03:18

They have been rebuilt. Woo woo go progress!

2016-06-08 15:16

Braindead murica

2016-06-05 13:51

zonic stand in ez

2016-06-05 13:51

lel. murika is so 3rd world

2016-06-05 13:52

no one's denying him entry, he just have to apply for his visa like you have to do in loads of countries out there regardless of your citizenship. I don't really find the rule in question unfair, just bad luck with the timing.

2016-06-05 13:57

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OMG! I'VE FOUND IT!!!! COMMON SENSE!!!!!!!!!!

2016-06-08 17:18

USA does their job great again.

2016-06-05 13:53

Konfig will be or some kind of captain

2016-06-05 13:54

Terrigan

2016-06-05 13:57

well he tried to contact terrorists that's hist fault

2016-06-05 13:59

USA is such a fucking shit place

2016-06-05 14:00

Ok, why not just go with passport, I have been to Japan for 5+ days without having to get a visa.

2016-06-05 14:01

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But you didn't make any money. Visas are for work or for long term tourism.

2016-06-05 14:08

8 replies

Well, just go anyway. If the government doesnt acknowlwdge an esports tournament as a valid reason to get a visa, then why should they consider it a valid way of making money.

2016-06-05 14:10

6 replies

just go anyway That's how you get arrested, detained, questioned and sanctioned from leaving your own continent or country for many, many years afterward.

2016-06-05 14:12

5 replies

He should at least be in attendance with his team.

2016-06-05 14:13

4 replies

troll or stupid? lul wtf

2016-06-05 14:58

3 replies

Its called a passport... if visa is only neccesary for making money, that means he can go watch with just a passport

2016-06-05 14:59

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do you think they havent thought bout that? lul. Barely 1 day is not enough to get a passport it's too late.. Astralis might still win group C but barely or they'll go straight to last chance qualifier as a 2nd place or since they choke a lot, wouldnt be surprised if they finished 3rd place...

2016-06-05 15:03

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If you travel at least once in your life, then you have a passport. Its something he SHOULD already have.

2016-06-05 15:27

Not true. ESTA-program do not apply for a lot of countries i.e. China. I have seen a lot of chinese tourists in the US and i can guarantee that none of them entered through the ESTA-program.

2016-06-06 14:03

Because "VISA" price in Japan is added to travel card, same like in Turkey

2016-06-05 14:09

Because when you go to japan you automaticly get 2weeks (or some other period, not sure) visa

2016-06-05 14:16

lulz

2016-06-05 14:02

ANd NA CS Strikes again

2016-06-05 14:03

Hahahahahahhahahahahaha

2016-06-05 14:03

m0r0ns

2016-06-05 14:03

hahahahah, maybe he had date with goat ? That's his fault - he have to choose Terrorist countries or USA simply as fuck

2016-06-05 14:06

USA boycotting Iran trough games fucking cheap Iran super nice nation was super progressive before russia and usa started fucking in the region they good people. israel hates them and usa obeys.

2016-06-05 14:06

fucking murica.... rip astralis

2016-06-05 14:06

WP USA........FUCK OFF USA

2016-06-05 14:07

oinkers not allowed

2016-06-05 14:08

fuck usa

2016-06-05 14:09

No astralis without karrigan... RIP ASTRALIS 2K16

2016-06-05 14:10

For brickheads bitching about it being an American thing. It isn't: hltv.org/news/15948-qeeyou-withdraw-from.. hltv.org/news/7056-navi-detained-on-sixt.. hltv.org/news/8374-tyloo-unable-to-atten.. hltv.org/news/8812-vivamorocco-drop-out-.. hltv.org/news/8384-znation-with-visa-pro.. hltv.org/news/17817-born-of-fire-to-miss.. hltv.org/news/15406-hiko-steps-in-for-fl.. hltv.org/news/10707-esc-could-miss-techl.. Visas and travel for everyone that participates in any sort of esport is always going to be a hassle as long as esports remain unrecognized by governments as a "legitimate" means of making a living.

2016-06-05 14:11

3 replies

2016-06-05 14:41

-they didnt applied in time, organizers fault mostly, and because they had to get a new passport delaying them -Bosnian customs fault, still didnt understood why this happen, probably some mistake by the organizers also -well this event was in India... and everyone knows how it went, and tyloo werent the only ones with problems, for example Fox from Russia also couldnt get a visa -Indeed a problem, maybe because of spain relations with Morocoo, where they still keep two cities under their rule -probably some bad organization, dunno, but ok this one was a problem -"The Chinese team had been announced as TyLoo's replacement after the Asia Minor champions decided to skip the event in order to be able to apply for visas to enter the United States, where they will be competing in ELEAGUE at the end of the month." -"It certainly came as a blow that WorldEdit's visa was not processed in time by the embassy for us to play with our full roster," FlipSid3 Tactics Dana Kawar told HLTV.org." -one more problem with russia... so i still see America as one of the nations that causes most problems... but ofc we see many visa problems with eastern european nations, its sad this things happen.

2016-06-05 15:18

Thank you. Finally one voice of reason in this shit thread.

2016-06-05 16:38

it is almost good for Astralis, karrigan was weak link imh. hope for competent and consistent replacement player

2016-06-05 14:16

What a joke....! :-(((

2016-06-05 14:18

fucking racists

2016-06-05 14:20

choking before the tournament even starts, wp

2016-06-05 14:22

I don't understand why these players don't apply for visas it's literally so easy to do and will stop this from happening... whenever you travel to a country maybe you should read how you 1st get into that country...

2016-06-05 14:24

37 replies

U're right dude, but because he travelled to Iran once 5 years ago? cmon USA srysly?

2016-06-05 14:27

28 replies

Well its a rule that won't change. You don't go to a country without knowing rules to get into said country. It's just shocking that these high level teams who have people booking the flights for these events are stupid enough to not know the documents needed for a person to get into the country.

2016-06-05 14:32

26 replies

Yea agreed, but still this is one retarded rule. Also Denmark is one of US's closest allies, so it should be no problem

2016-06-05 14:39

25 replies

Not really retarded. The way they look at it is a random person from Denmark traveled to Iran and is now traveling to the usa. If you travel to a terrorist state you have to go through an extra step to come into the usa.

2016-06-05 14:48

23 replies

"terrorist state" lol so i assume USA thinks syria, iraq, afghanistan, yemen etc. are terrorist states.

2016-06-05 15:05

3 replies

oh someone with a brain! a good day on hltv

2016-06-05 15:07

They do, and that is why you have to go through extra steps to be able to travel into the usa

2016-06-05 16:45

1 reply

so the whole middle east except israel and saudi arabia are terrorist states. sad.

2016-06-05 19:39

"Terrorist state" Murica pls....

2016-06-05 15:06

"terrorist state", yeah, and who bombed the sh*t out of the middle east countries ? You started all the wars in that region. And now you're turning into a police state. Brainwashed burgers...

2016-06-05 15:29

6 replies

We are not talking about what I think. We are talking about what the us government thinks, which is who you have to go through to travel to the usa... hltv logic at its best.

2016-06-05 16:44

5 replies

If you're the one using this term on this forum, then I assume it's your opinion.

2016-06-05 16:47

4 replies

state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm

2016-06-05 20:10

3 replies

Wow do you really belive what your government says ? And Syria - it was Obama who started everything, Assad kept everything chill but when you decided to make Syria democratic, sh*t hit the fan. And the chemical weapon issue - Assad must've been stupid to kill his own citizens, why should he ? You really are one of the most brainwashed nations on earth.

2016-06-05 20:16

2 replies

the iranian political establishment has been questionable for decades, just ask any iranian emigrant residing in europe. the world isn't as black and white as neither traditional nor alternative media makes it out to be.

2016-06-05 20:45

We are talking about why he was denied. Not what I believe... This isnt a why do you think he cant make it post. This is a why did the US government stop him from entering the US.

2016-06-05 21:34

your state is the terrorist state

2016-06-05 16:37

I think USA should worry about their own terrorists before taking action versus a danish guy visiting Iran for a couple of days.

2016-06-05 18:00

9 replies

I'm pretty sure they are doing both. By making it harder to travel to the middle east and back to the USA it provides an extra barrier of protection from a person involved in terrorism enters the USA. Its unfortunate that it effects people like this, but it is necessary to not let dangerous people into your country. Look at all the refugees that are all over Europe right now. How much has the Crime rates risen in the last 6 months due to all the countries just letting them in? I'm sure they aren't all bad, but there are some that injure, rape, and murder people.

2016-06-05 18:44

3 replies

I'd say it's more likely I turn into a terrorist after visiting USA. Never forget that your country is the reason these problems arise. You just had to make a shithole a bigger shithole... as always. Believing someone visiting Iran for a couple of days makes you into a potential terrorist, you're paranoid. Better put on your tin foil hat, I visited Sweden last week for a couple of hours, I might've become a muslim.

2016-06-05 18:52

2 replies

That is what the government thinks. So if you want to visit the USA then you have to jump through the hoops to come here. Its not like I make the rules, and If I did I would have to have a lot more knowledge on the subject to make the decision.

2016-06-05 18:55

1 reply

Nah I can't visit USA, I got into a fight and had to meet in court.

2016-06-05 18:58

But you do understand, that when you legislate you do it on a broad pallet - right? It is a pretty logical rule - if you have been to a place where one country is in war, generally considered and enemy etc. is it not only fair to be extra thorough? I agree that Karrigan did not go there to train in an ISIS-training camp - but an objective rule pulls him out of the ESTA programme pool. He can apply for a normal VISA like 85% of the worlds population does. It is his responsibilty and his alone - that he did not do it in time. This is common knowledge people. The alternative is, that the ESTA-programme no longer exists and everybody has to apply for VISAS. Would you find this better? Russia does this - if you wanna go there you have to apply through their embassy in Denmark (if you are a dane). It take more time and is more invasive as you have to give more information. Do not blame the US when they already are pretty progressive in their immigration legislation. Understand the rules instead. Please. Most western countries - with good reason - are extra careful with people traveling to war-torn/terrorist nesting areas. It is not you or any other people in here with internet-knowledge to figure out which countries are safe and not. Leave that to the respective countries intelligence. If you cannot accept their terms - stay the fuck away. Please stop this nonsense.

2016-06-06 14:16

4 replies

Considering he was in the US during this new rule took effect I think they should've informed about it.

2016-06-06 17:27

3 replies

I really cannot see why he should be treated different than anyone else. It was communicated out world wide for a long time ago - anybody that can read should know about this.

2016-06-06 19:17

2 replies

Obviously he is when Friis etc. also had ESTA and went to Iran.

2016-06-06 19:45

1 reply

Stop acting like you know the details :) There can be a million reasons to why that is - and it is pointless to debate it here. The fact is, the rules that Karrigan are dealing with was communicated to the whole long before the rules when into action - he/his organisation has failed to take action. There is not really much more to say. This situation could have been avoided with people doing their jobs.

2016-06-06 20:08

You do not understand the logic of the legislation. Your own government is even doing the same - if you have undocumented travels to war-torn countries you do not get the luxury of an ESTA-permission. It is not equal with now being able to enter the US just because you went to i.e Iran. You just have to apply for a normal VISA and be able to give probable cause to why you went to Iran. This is actually good legislation as you divide your resources to people where there might be reasons to be extra thorough.

2016-06-06 14:56

That rule only applies to ESTAs had he applied for a normal visa he would have gotten into the country just fine.

2016-06-08 15:57

he most likely didn't think it was a problem because he traveled to the US a few months ago for the mlg major where this rule was not present.

2016-06-05 18:16

7 replies

yup and whos fault is that? He only has team manager, tournament organizers, and himself to blame. Rules change all the time with travel you always have to be up to date on everything

2016-06-05 18:37

6 replies

i guess so, but on the other hand your visa system/rules are a complete mess! with a million rules which is impossible for some to even get, like tyloo, they did apply for visas in time but still got denied, as long as your rules are as strict as they are esports events should be held elsewhere. i speak from experience too because i have had the O-1 visa twice and it required so much work and planing to get.

2016-06-05 19:05

5 replies

It will never change and this has happened in plenty of countries go look at the links #235 posted

2016-06-05 19:15

4 replies

yes but my point is that esports event shouldn't be held in the US since they simply aren't ready for it. their visa rules ruins a lot of tournaments.

2016-06-05 21:09

3 replies

uhh its the players/managers that dont know the rules except for mongols or w/e. Every country has rules that you have to follow to enter their country.

2016-06-05 21:37

2 replies

ALL HAIL GREAT UNITED STATES? F**K VISA ISSUES!

2016-06-06 11:05

This! I cannot understand why so many people in here is having so many difficulties accepting this. Getting into fort-europa is equally as demanding as getting in to the US - if not more. Rule of thumb: stay away from war-torn middle eastern countries, read up on current legislation and plan ahead. It is not a mystery why most bigger companies have departments dealing with this matter solely. The world being the violent place it is - it is unfortunately nesesarry to be extra careful around some areas. This might be discriminating in regard to nationality but last time i checked international agreements this does not fall under the term "racism".

2016-06-06 14:42

thx obama

2016-06-05 14:26

ridiculous

2016-06-05 14:29

RIP JW

2016-06-05 14:31

If MSL is allowed to play for them by rules then i would go with MSL. That would be their best option leader wise.

2016-06-05 14:32

6 replies

Lol you can't just add a random igl to a team he doesn't know, would be better let any of the other 4 astralis player play IGl and just take in a good fragger.

2016-06-05 14:36

5 replies

or just play with gla1ve since we know he will play ina a Major

2016-06-05 15:21

4 replies

gla1ve is playing with SK in the same tournament and in the same group

2016-06-05 20:03

3 replies

lol, are u sure?

2016-06-05 20:30

2 replies

no im high af

2016-06-05 21:25

1 reply

2016-06-05 21:25

one terrorist less in america

2016-06-05 14:34

Explains why the former Dignitas t sides improved o much since Kaŕrigan joined

2016-06-05 14:35

karrigan joined isis confirmed

2016-06-05 14:35

This is so fucking unfair.. Poor Finn.. Wish the best for you Astralis, gl <3

2016-06-05 14:36

ISIS | Karrigan

2016-06-05 14:39

he traveled here and i didn't knew this,fuck me!

2016-06-05 14:40

2 replies

Iran <3

2016-06-05 14:54

1 reply

<3<3<3

2016-06-06 08:27

First pyth now karrigan... Why even have tournaments in the US their national security is fucking aweful and teams are getting punished for it. Just have them hosted in EU, AUS or even in Asia for all I care. Atleast then players would be able to attend.

2016-06-05 14:45

another visa problem? fu**ing USA

2016-06-05 14:48

the us embassy was influenced by the people from Luminosity Gaming team so they can have an easier route in the playoffs if the astralis dont make it.

2016-06-05 14:55

Such a ridiculous world we are living in

2016-06-05 15:03

counter-terrorists win

2016-06-05 15:03

1 reply

16:0 REKT

2016-06-06 11:03

so zonic probably has to start playing again now rip Astralis

2016-06-05 15:04

Always visa problems for these American tournaments. This shit is starting to get really annoying.

2016-06-05 15:05

NA Joke

2016-06-05 15:08

So if he's denied for travelling to Iran why could he go for mlg?

2016-06-05 15:11

2 replies

i think he had an old visa, and now he must have a new one no other ideas

2016-06-05 15:22

because he travelled to the major 2 days before the rule was applied

2016-06-05 16:35

ayyyyyy lmao. I bet astralis fans are thanking us right now. Kappa.

2016-06-05 15:12

Thank Mr. Obama

2016-06-05 15:20

Karigan the terrorist... oh, wait.

2016-06-05 15:21

Murica racists.. Please no more tournaments in NA

2016-06-05 15:26

rofl gg NA LUL

2016-06-05 15:26

Karrigan joins isis as IGL

2016-06-05 15:29

Rip TyLoo.

2016-06-05 15:33

wtf hahaha

2016-06-05 15:34

Thank mr.Trump

2016-06-05 15:34

I could replace him. Legendary Eagle Master here.

2016-06-05 15:36

Thats so sad :( Hope Astralis find their groove without him.

2016-06-05 15:42

damn glave or cajun inc

2016-06-05 16:04

Just stop making tourneys in US already... So many problems with VISAs

2016-06-05 16:10

Nice, worst player leave

2016-06-05 16:11

under trump no more CS tournaments in U.S #KANYE2020

2016-06-05 16:22

trashmericans at it again with the terrorism prevention

2016-06-05 16:29

retarded shit country

2016-06-05 16:30

9 replies

2016-06-05 17:54

8 replies

answer is still visible on my profile

2016-06-05 17:56

7 replies

I was born in Bavaria but I do not live there anymore due to me studying in Aachen (NRW)

2016-06-05 17:57

6 replies

So still more accurate than your name guesses ;) Anyway, this discussion won't lead us anywhere, nobody of us will convince the other one, so let's just stop

2016-06-05 17:59

5 replies

No lets take a look at the start of the discussion. You wrote "retarded shit country". I would love to hear the explanation for this statement

2016-06-05 18:00

4 replies

From my own experience (1 year in the US), the majority of their middle class population gets brainwashed since day one, their birth. The average american might have a comparable IQ in the fields of sciences etc, but their intellect is clearly not comparable to that of a independent thinking, educated european. Their country is still decent, but on a downwards trend in my opinion. To the context of the particular problem of karrigan: I think it's really stupid. Think about how often karrigan played in the US after his visit to Iran in 2012. He travelled to the US for the major two days before the rule came in. Now they don't let him, a normal Danish citizen, in, because he was there 4 years ago. How is one trip to Iran enough to warrant a visa denial? Especially 4 years ago, with no supsicious actions of karrigan after his stay there.

2016-06-05 18:09

3 replies

> "From my own experience (1 year in the US), the majority of their middle class population gets brainwashed since day one, their birth." When I visited Boston as an exchange student I got the impression that, yes they are brainwashed but only to the same extend that we (Europeans) are. "The average american might have a comparable IQ in the fields of sciences etc, but their intellect is clearly not comparable to that of a independent thinking, educated european." Well the "average European" is not, I repeat not independent thinking. Imho you are comparing an average American with an above average/ intelligent European. "Their country is still decent, but on a downwards trend in my opinion." Which Western nation isn't in a downwards trend nowadays. "How is one trip to Iran enough to warrant a visa denial?" Apparently it is in the US and to be honest it should be the same here in GER.

2016-06-05 18:18

2 replies

That's true, most of the younger people here are brainwashed as well :/ "Well the "average European" is not, I repeat not independent thinking. Imho you are comparing an average American with an above average/ intelligent European." Probably yes. "Apparently it is in the US and to be honest it should be the same here in GER." So you think Germany shouldn't let karrigan in, despite him being a Danish citizen?

2016-06-05 18:25

1 reply

For the Karrigan case... I don't really know because on the one hand a law similar to the one in the US would make sense but 4 years on the other hand is a long time.

2016-06-05 18:28

Choke without even starting... Lmao

2016-06-05 16:36

Får da ondt I maven over visa-regler. Min krop er klar som standin <3 Håber i finder en løsning!

2016-06-05 16:39

Wtf hasnt obama been in Iran the last 5 years ? Is this because Preben is from Denmark ?

2016-06-05 16:39

and muricans who went to iran/irak are allowed to come to europe....... fk equal rights

2016-06-05 16:42

but he when to the major in the USA so.....

2016-06-05 17:15

gudjab USA kek'ed

2016-06-05 17:20

This is really stupid, how many times has Karrigan gone to play in the United States since he went to Iran ? Probably like over 12 times. And now they don't accept him. Just goes to show Americans doing the visas clearly don't know jack shit, or some particular individual was clueless enough to feel like one trip to Iran is enough to warrant a visa denial. I know people that have been to Iran and who aren't muslim, they all told me it's as beautiful and friendly as a country gets. I also saw one dude who did a little documentary by himself touring Iran on a shitty motorcycle, he's australian. Never had a single problem the whole way for months. A lot of places in the US probably more dangerous than Iran tbh.

2016-06-05 17:52

fucking selfish amerifats want all their kfc for themselves

2016-06-05 17:57

na is trash

2016-06-05 17:59

1 reply

US* please don't include Canada in their moronic visas.

2016-06-05 18:46

America is not ready to do esport events. What a joke....

2016-06-05 18:05

EZ 4 IRAN

2016-06-05 18:23

Murica, can u pls stop hosting tournaments? ty

2016-06-05 18:25

U - S - A U - S - A United States of the retArded.

2016-06-05 18:25

Europeans complain about immigrants on this website 24/7 and then when this happens they think its the dumbest thing ever. I dont understand. What side are you on europe? You want iran immigrants everywhere or no? Cant have both

2016-06-05 18:28

2 replies

way to show your enormous stupidity haha. this has nothing to do with immigrants. idiot

2016-06-05 18:34

your bait is so bad even fish are offended

2016-06-05 18:46

Why are these pros never prepared when they know they have to travel to another country? I have had to go to other countries for vacation 7 times already and I have yet to be denied. Pros should know not to procrastinate with their Visa so when it gets denied, they can get an appeal. These people do it last minute so they don't have enough time when the unthinkable happens. Edit: Also if people get denied, its not permanent and they tell you anyways what to do to get your application accepted.

2016-06-05 18:49

3 replies

"other countries"... The problem is the America's Visa laws. They deny everything and take forever to do so.

2016-06-05 18:51

2 replies

Yeah but the point is that they should've done it ahead of time so they can fix the problem before it's too late.

2016-06-05 18:52

And we've been safe for a while so no complaints from me.

2016-06-05 21:39

Fucking afraid country... went to Iran on last five years so he can't come? Seriously, make tournaments in Europe next time.

2016-06-05 18:50

Time for big teams to boycott all events in america, they are pretty shit anyway.

2016-06-05 19:05

Applying for the visa 2 days b4 the tournament kicks off is certainly not the best idea, no matter where the tournament is held. It's probably not even a big deal to settle the issues, it just takes a bit of time. His own fault applying for visa that late. Stop blaming US for their rules lol.

2016-06-05 19:09

i didnt know karrigan went to sweden recently...

2016-06-05 19:13

idk why u call iran terrorist its not any action near terrorist or something here and the government is shit here they cant do shit xD

2016-06-05 19:21

Stupid USA government

2016-06-05 19:23

USA makes corn and feeds it to cows with antibiotics and then make burgers, good living.

2016-06-05 19:23

Cadian Inc?

2016-06-05 19:52

Now I get where Karrigan gets his T strats

2016-06-05 20:02

hahahaha usa... oh you

2016-06-05 20:13

Karrigan did 9/11?

2016-06-05 20:33

#cry

2016-06-05 20:41

ISIS?

2016-06-05 20:43

iluminati confirmed

2016-06-05 20:47

You have nice government amerifats lmao

2016-06-05 20:48

2 replies

meanwhile european capitals get bombed and american ones remain untouched n1 border security

2016-06-05 22:10

Russia has better government AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

2016-06-05 23:44

friis stand in

2016-06-05 20:50

All Murica tournaments are rly boring

2016-06-05 21:07

Wait why was fnatic in Iran? There was a CS tourny in Iran? U wut m8?

2016-06-05 21:18

1 reply

Yes, MSI sponsored event or something like that.

2016-06-05 21:47

one more victim of radical islam

2016-06-05 21:20

rip lol players have visas in usa like athletes but cs go is worse

2016-06-05 21:37

Why aren't these issues dealt with prior to the weekend before the event?

2016-06-05 21:41

USA so stupid, why they still make tournaments there? Paranoid shit country

2016-06-05 21:44

1 reply

Well they are trying to make a big olympic tournament in brazil..... We know how thats going. Poor ass country. STFU

2016-06-06 01:31

THIS IS BULLSHIT!

2016-06-05 21:50

Yea US is really protective for no reason, He has been here for gaming before, that should show in his records. This is why we need White house approval on esports as an actual sport.

2016-06-05 22:08

1 reply

no reason lol

2016-06-05 22:50

When that dumbass look on your face fits just right.

2016-06-05 22:54

Good thing Astralis has literally the easiest group.... CLG, NRG, Sk... Such an easy group. Too EZ for kjaerbye

2016-06-05 23:36

Iran, what an irony

2016-06-05 23:42

I don't understand why a person who is traveling to a different country multiple times per month wouldn't apply for a visa. Just because you've been to Iran doesn't mean you're not allowed to go to the US. Iranian immigrants do it all the time.

2016-06-05 23:42

Typical USA, valve pls stop overhyping this shitty country when they can't even make a tournament without problems. "He was in Iran so he can't fly to USA (he was there ~~12times but still DENIED)" <- i laughed hard. Just make events in Europe where people don't have problems with visas - Europe is a Tyloo friendly country :')

2016-06-05 23:56

I feel like this is something that SHOULD of been checked out by E-League PRIOR to signing all these teams. Way to do your homework boys... another blowback to Astralis....

2016-06-06 00:25

1 reply

As a non-english native speaker, I feel somewhat entitled to correct when a english speaker messes up his sentence in ways which is more than spelling errors. You make a mistake which is becoming more common for each day that passes. "Should of" is incorrect. You need to use "should have" or "should've". Have a splendid mate!

2016-06-06 08:37

STUMPED

2016-06-06 00:33

Typical HLTV complaining about usa and how denied visas are slowing down the progression of esports but at the same time are the most toxic people in the community...

2016-06-06 01:21

So stupid. The fact you post that stupid shit about him traveling to iran. So he cant travel to the USA. There are Thousands of people EVERY DAY that travel from Iran to NA. This lazy individual and organization will blame the rules. The rules that are laid out YEARS and sometimes DECADES in advance. This is what I get for logging on to a site populated by and employing children.

2016-06-06 01:30

1 reply

"There are Thousands of people EVERY DAY that travel from Iran to NA." that alone shows how clueless you are.

2016-06-06 07:47

Brazilians asking why are they having tournaments in the USA.... Well this happens when we try and give Brazil something nice.... espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/1479.. "Some families in Rio have flat-screen TVs but have to rig their own septic systems." Your country is third world. No matter how many TVs you buy. You can take the monkey from the jungle. But you cant take the jungle from the monkey.

2016-06-06 01:33

2 replies

Doesnt exactly involve visas, does it?

2016-06-06 02:30

1 reply

he needs to make the United states look better than someone i guess

2016-06-06 09:21

Lazy EU teams and EU orgs not doing research thats been known for ages then act like we're in the wrong. Well deserved JW 2.0

2016-06-06 01:55

Fucking America ... If this will happen once more i wil tell Putin to start war with America-Tactic RUSH B !

2016-06-06 07:36

2 replies

LMAO! P90 RUSH B FAST!

2016-06-06 10:55

1 reply

2016-06-06 16:52

Karrigan is the ultimate sleeper cell. All he does is playing CS:GO. And then 10 years later...still a sleeper cell, 60 years later...still sleeping.

2016-06-06 08:25

Really too bad :( If he can't get there in time I wonder who the fifth will be. Also makes Group C a hell of a lot more interesting if the 5th is a manger or some shitter.

2016-06-06 08:33

Kebab filter hahaha youtube.com/watch?v=ocW3fBqPQkU

2016-06-06 08:35

wow this is stupid... so Astralis has to play without their stratcaller??

2016-06-06 12:03

S1mple astralis

2016-06-06 12:03

This is America being over protective as usual.

2016-06-06 13:33

LOOOL MURICA so stupid xd starting war s and thinking that pro player can be a terrorist xd Lool So much stupid murica xd ( btw i Like normal Americans )

2016-06-06 14:21

Rip TSM

2016-06-06 20:09

defo sleeper agent

2016-06-06 21:37

1 reply

cant take any chances

2016-06-07 05:42

he couldn't get hax work on LAN so he use this as excuse

2016-06-07 20:02

pezdec astralisam

2016-06-08 11:44

He gets a 10 year visa expedited by the US in time to show up for the second day. It's amazing to read all the comments above by people who don't have anything constructive to say. They just want another reason to complain about the US.

2016-06-08 21:19

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