Bravado roster to move to the US

18-1-2018 00:40

Bravado Gaming have announced that they will send their team to the United States to compete against the region's best.

The move is part of the "Project Destiny", an ambitious plan aimed at "raising awareness of the talent and skill" of South African players, who rarely get the chance to compete abroad.

Bravado's team will compete in the US for the next 12 months

Bravado's team will be living in the US for an initial six months, during which the goal is "to have a breakout event". After that period, the South African organisation plan to extend the team's stay by a further six months.

"We will be sending our Counter Strike: Global Offensive team to the United States of America on a mission to do what SK Gaming did while still under their previous organizations," a Bravado statement read.

"In South Africa, unfortunately, we are limited with the number of qualifiers we are exposed to, limited with the kind of practice we get.

"Through “Project Destiny” we want to take our country, continent, region and its players to the next level by opening eyes, bringing investments, exposing talents by doing what we at Bravado Gaming do best, telling a story to the world."

The South African team will be competing in the North American ESEA Main division, for which they qualified after winning their local ESEA Open league. But the plan is for Bravado to get into as many events as possible as the players will "take every challenge by the horns".

Bravado were last seen at an international event in January 2017, when they placed 13th-16th at the WESG Finals. The South African side also have a Major appearance under their belt as they competed at DreamHack Winter 2014, where they lost to fnatic and Cloud9.

The team's roster looks as follows:

Dimitri "⁠Detrony⁠" Hadjipaschali
Ruan "⁠ELUSIVE⁠" van Wyk
Aran "⁠Sonic⁠" Groesbeek
Rhys "⁠Fadey⁠" Armstrong
Johnny "⁠JT⁠" Theodosiou

Tiaan "⁠T.c⁠" Coertzen (coach)

Project Destiny: Our #CSGO team is heading over to the USA!

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— Bravado Gaming (@bravadogaming) January 17, 2018

Tier 1

2018-01-18 00:41

18 replies

In 2 years, yeah

2018-01-18 00:42

16 replies

nope

2018-01-18 00:50

Nah, never... The entire NA region itself barely ever makes it to a tier1 playing level and they always drop off. But being at a consistent top10 level is pretty great none the less... Though I doubt these guys would make an impact over the top20 mark

2018-01-18 00:59

13 replies

Still better than staying in South Africa. Going to NA will help them learn the meta's and compete against stronger competition. Will they be another SK? Probably not, but the move should be a good one for them.

2018-01-18 01:12

7 replies

They wont even be the next misfits

2018-01-18 06:06

6 replies

hahahha are you jas bra they will be way better than misfits once they get some confidence..

2018-01-18 21:09

5 replies

hltv.org/matches/2293622/bravado-vs-clou.. hltv.org/matches/2293550/fnatic-vs-brava.. i think not

2018-01-19 08:47

4 replies

Look at the roster, and back in 2014?

2018-01-19 16:13

3 replies

so what lol, no excuses for such an exit

2018-01-22 11:37

2 replies

that was badpoison before he move to eu for training like african man go to bush for become man

2018-01-23 22:10

1 reply

what kind of culture do you have there

2018-01-24 12:52

Most regions barely make it to Tier 1. The teams in North America currently (not from NA, but in the region) are some of the best in the world. SK, C9 and Liquid are all decent teams. Immortals was also a solid team. Every scene has scores of lesser quality teams.

2018-01-18 01:20

SK isn't a decent team, they are the best team, and consistently a top5 team basically since late 2015 when fnx and taco joined. But I wasn't talking about teams that are not originally from NA. But yeah C9 is a solid top10 and they will always be top10 with this lineup, so they are really good. Liquid fallen off a bit on the other hand, doubt they will do too much with their lineup. Of course there's plenty of talent in the NA region, I'm saying getting to a tier1 level is a significant challenge even with all that player pool.

2018-01-18 01:28

I know you're not talking about teams that are not from NA, but the NA region is where these teams compete, which was more my point. There's some really good competition in the area. As for NA in general, I mean, we've always had teams that were competing. NA mentality and conditions are something I've talked about a few times, but I think that's too long of a conversation for here. I'm impressed with C9's roster, and I do somewhat agree with you about Liquid though I do think they've come a long way with what they have at their disposal.

2018-01-18 03:33

i think liquid's lineup is pretty solid. they've been getting much better in the past few months and they've never dipped outside of the top 15 in the past couple of years.

2018-01-18 07:49

You realize the worlds best teams plays in the NA region?

2018-01-18 21:33

Not even bro. Thats delusional

2018-01-18 07:09

lol GL for them

2018-01-18 00:46

lul

14 replies

Good But wheres blackpoisoN

2018-01-18 01:32

in sweden bootcamping with NIP while crying at his Bravado tattoo

2018-01-18 02:46

Does he actually have a bravado tat Lmao

2018-01-18 07:55

I don't remember who but some player of Bravado had a bravado tattoo. they were promoted as a really good unknown team back in DH14 because they had played together for like 11 years or something.

2018-01-18 17:34

Playing for eNergy eSports if I'm not mistaken.

That he is sir.

2018-01-18 06:43

2018-01-18 06:56

Lets be honest. They're coming cause boers and other white afrikaners are slowly being pushed out of SA by black nationalists, not cause they wanna be better at 'muh counterstrikes'.

2018-01-18 03:34

Incorrect, that's just a wrong assumption.

2018-01-18 03:47

Incorrect, your conclusion about my assumption is wrong.

2018-01-18 03:53

Just saying what you said is not what people talk about here, at least in general.

2018-01-18 03:55

Let's be honest though. The same thing that happened under mugabe in zimbabwe is happening in south africa right now. The pendulum has swung back way past neutral in post-apartheid SA. Zuma is legit mugabe lite.

2018-01-18 03:59

I'm aware that the racial tension here has gotten worse from a couple years ago but we can only speculate that. Wouldn't be surprised if it was true though.

2018-01-18 04:08

Not true In the slightest way.... Yes w have our political problems but the CS scene is overlooked international and the only way people get better is by playing against better player's.

2018-02-13 11:54

Sonic is good, good luck!!!!

2018-01-18 06:07

COOL

This is why na is trash

Because a team from a poor country wants + needs to move to NA in order to compete

2018-01-18 00:47

Poor country? Ever been there?

2018-01-18 00:53

the average S. African salary is 1/4 of the way to making it to the poverty line in the U.S., so... yeah that’s not very much

2018-01-18 19:04

Cities are very different best way to describe is such as Washington DC where is goes from Mansions to Poverty, Cape Town is extremely nice

2018-01-18 19:24

confirmed, i'm from cape town and i love it here earning $1000 p/m can have home, internet, car, food, kush ez life no people suicide bombing us or shooting up schools :>

2018-01-18 21:13

and no natural desasters . we only have like 0.1% vegans and trannies.

2018-01-18 21:17

And no water

2018-01-19 15:33

Yeah I used to live in western and j miss it, hopefully our boys will play in some dreamhack here

2018-01-18 21:15

i think they will take a few months to gain some confidence and start suprizing people

2018-01-18 21:16

Poor country? LUL

2018-01-18 01:04

ya south africa is pretty poor lol

how dont people know this lol

2018-01-18 01:21

It is for black people SMH

2018-01-18 01:24

they even host 2010 fifa world cup lul

2018-01-18 12:35

Thats why SK fak farming in NA tournaments I mean they win a lot yes but is harder compete to earn spots vs FaZe, Astralis, NiP... they compete against OpTic.... lol

Stopped reading at nip

2018-01-18 09:09

So you read 95% of his comments, cool.

2018-01-19 15:15

If NA teams can't beat those teams, then yea, they are bad.

2018-01-18 00:54

suck it

lol n1

is this a african team lul?

9 replies

South African*

8 replies

ya south africa is in africa

no no no south Africa is south Africa anf Africa is Africa

2018-01-18 00:43

yes

INCORRECT ZA > ALL OTHER AFRICA

2018-01-18 15:23

confirmed, south africa best africa

2018-01-18 21:18

+1 ... cape town best south africa

2018-01-18 21:19

K, south africa is in America now.

fak

2018-01-18 00:44

not expected wow

hell yeah? no

SA to win next major

Probably before a UK team.

2018-01-18 01:42

NA too

2018-01-18 01:51

Liquid almost won it twice, has a UK player even gone to a major before?

2018-01-18 02:34

Never forgetti ez skinz. ;(

2018-01-18 03:35

Do you know da weah?

where is da qween

*tongue clicking intensifies*

Good luck

didnt even know this org still exsits

Good fucking riddance, good luck to the boys!

good luck

Cool, good luck!

good but all of them are white? racism?

lul south africa is mostly whites

Are you DUMB? It's like 90% black.

2018-01-18 01:43

but people who can afford pc = white

2018-01-18 01:57

True, but I saw one black guy who plays for a South African team. Energy I think.

2018-01-18 02:33

This boi: hltv.org/player/8444/LighteRTZ

2018-01-18 03:48

He stole the computer then.

2018-01-18 11:26

Like a favela.

2018-01-19 18:47

yes kkkkkkkkkkkkk

2018-01-19 20:04

Wouldn't say 90% but easily 75% at least yea

2018-01-18 03:50

so?

Beeing white = racist Najce logic

if you born white in Africa, it's racism yes

2018-01-18 00:49

Keep your autism in check knockoff brazilian

nt pablo

2018-01-18 08:55

This team still exist? Have a cool day! -VeryCoolGuy

these guys will smash noobs like rice nation and gx

Gx isnt in main u ok bro? Also not a chance lol

2018-01-18 01:29

wut how many leagues are there I thought there was just two, pro league and the shit one with teams like rice nation

2018-01-18 01:33

open intermediate main mdl pro league main league is pretty shitty, rise nation is in the mdl league

2018-01-18 06:34

No bLacKpoisoN no fun

Quite exciting to see a new region, I doubt they will be good for a few years, but it's nice to see different areas. Could be a new RNG. GOod luck to them :D

fucking stupid comment poes

2018-01-18 21:26

I'm gonna be playing these kids this season? Easy.

Another team to steal NA spots. xD.

EZ SONIC TOP 20 2018

2018-01-18 00:45

All from Africa and all white LUL

South Africa is pretty much all white. I thought Americans were supposed to be the uneducated ones....

2018-01-18 01:30

south africa is like 80% black, 10% white and 10% mixed

2018-01-18 01:53

wolfff is right .. guess the education in france is pretty horrendous then. btw im from south africa .. just live in us now

2018-01-18 05:35

uh... no? blacks are the majority, and there's social exclusion between black and white ppl

2018-01-18 06:38

Mostly black but white got most of the gdp:P

2018-01-18 07:59

seeing only white people on news from south africa makes you think everyone in za is white? damn boy the black people are like more than 80% there

2018-01-18 23:07

I think its JT not JD, JD is from australia

Nice, these guys finally get an opportunity to show what they have.

They are worse than spirit russian team Spirit rarely makes it to lans

2018-01-18 09:31

bravado top1 2k18

INSANE MOVE

2018-01-18 00:48

EZ 4 the most minority team in existence, white South Africans

cheering for them lets go bravado!!

GL guys

sorry, but...who?

Slight error in the roster: It´s JT hltv.org/player/11630/JT and not "Damian "JD" Simonovic"

Ez for JT

2018-01-18 00:57

Best RSA player in the past few months

2018-01-18 03:51

Fuck off

2018-01-18 09:37

Jeeze boet, calm your gwaum

2018-01-19 06:56

yu no dae wae bruddas?

Good luck guys!

lately there's been many teams with great potential moving to NA so they can have a good chance to make it to the pro leagues and improve their game, GL to Bravado on their journey

2018-01-18 00:51

Good luck boys, kick our american asses

2018-01-18 00:52

JT not JD

Hadjipaschali lel

JD Isn't Australian???

all of them european migrants nothing african here

2018-01-18 00:56

Are you retarded?

2018-01-18 01:31

Pretty much all NA players are descended from Europe/Asia/Africa therefore there are no good American players. Great logic.

2018-01-18 02:12

But there are no good american players LUL

2018-01-18 05:44

How many 100t players in the top 20?

2018-01-18 09:38

Oh this is cool af, good luck boys!

South African team hoping to bless the rains in Africa

2018-01-18 00:58

This is sick, best of luck to them!

2018-01-18 01:01

Good luck for the south africans, I wish the best.

Tier 986894

2018-01-18 01:02

Good luck, great opportunity!

Awesome, hope they do well.

TIER 100

Nice! Good luck guys

reddit.com/r/MapsWithoutNZ

where's blackpoison :(

2018-01-18 01:07

trust me everyone from this team is better than blackpoison

2018-01-18 01:13

hltv.org/matches/2315679/bravado-vs-ener..

2018-01-18 01:16

3 months ago... 3 months ago VP were in Epicenter final and made close match with SK

2018-01-18 01:17

Vp always vp

2018-01-18 15:51

okay, I just remember him being very potential player years ago but then he just disappeared

2018-01-18 07:06

he was in Sweden to develope his career on eu scene

2018-01-18 15:53

Left Bravado in an attempt to have a chance in Sweden, came back to South Africa when bravado were complete so he joined Energy

Good luck!

2018-01-18 01:09

Good luck Sonic

2018-01-18 01:10

worse than splyce with crucial, machinegun etc.

actually nice, gl!

blackpoison???

2018-01-18 01:15

ez sponers by turkey

Niceee

2018-01-18 01:18

good news, africa is the most difficult region to make it big on cs, gl to them

2018-01-18 01:19

agreed, you don't even get a major qualifier spot

2018-01-18 01:50

2 of them are greek , good luck !!!

Good decision, good luck guys

those guys arent from south africa lmfao all white

2018-01-18 01:23

Do some research on south africa. So many uneducated children posting their autism lol.

Ikr There are some South Africans where I live and all of them are white but their accents are weird af. They just talk so slowly and weirdly.

2018-01-18 01:35

maybe they are just slow in the head m8

2018-01-18 01:52

Must be why I confuse the South African accent with the Aussie accent. Jk, Aussie accent is great.

2018-01-18 02:14

nt Southwestern Asian

2018-01-18 19:13

nice next Top 1

ez Sonic rating 1.29

2018-01-18 01:26

no blackpoison rip

wow this is so nice, gl guys! just pracc, and ur dreams will come true one day!

2018-01-18 01:38

cant wait for sonic the cheater to play in na

2018-01-18 01:40

Awesome! The ZA scene deserves some attention too!

nice ARGIES IN THE US WHEN???????????

Lol mayyybe they'd have a chance in the Australian/SEA scene, but not in NA, they're going to get raped

NA Scence isnt that hard ^^

2018-01-18 09:15

Nice bros. Play hard, go pro

Nice Bravado top 1 NA in 2k19

2018-01-18 02:03

cool GL

2018-01-18 02:06

2018-01-18 02:07

gl to Bravado! SA scene definitely needs more exposure

2018-01-18 02:21

sonic is only decent player cant see bravado making it even to na pro league

2018-01-18 02:22

Good luck guys

2018-01-18 02:31

really nice

Awesome! Good luck to African CS!

Nice gl to them

2018-01-18 02:35

2018-01-18 02:39

6 month stay means they are coming to work illegally. Reported to ICE already, GG.

2018-01-18 02:53

Noice

2018-01-18 02:54

2018-01-18 02:57

ehm, trash in africa, still trash in NA. pretty much no shot at making top20.

2018-01-18 03:04

if they fail they'll leave and follow Merkel's invitation.

2018-01-18 03:21

An essential move if they want to improve. This is good for them Maybe I'll be playing against them this season

2018-01-18 03:19

Very good, happy for them, gl

2018-01-18 03:29

good for the players, i just dont see how this will boost the SA scene. if anything, they should stay there.

not enough qualifiers etc, they only went to like 1 international LAN in past 6-12 months despite dominating their scene. You might be right, but staying in SA just holds back Bravado

2018-01-18 04:23

i know, bravado DID make a good decision by moving out to NA, but they make it out to be as if the scene is benefited by this.

2018-01-18 04:36

lol I agree with you 100% that is a joke. They might not even be Pro and end up Premier. They have potential tho...couple of real good players, at very least maybe get picked up by other teams and paves way for future SA players. SA gets less chance than Asia or AUS so right now it has no chance to shine.

2018-01-18 05:12

if bravado gets results , other sponsors might be thinking of sponsoring new tournaments in south africa and maybe energy esports might consider moving their roster to another continent as well since they are actually better than the current bravado roster

2018-01-18 13:50

gl my whiggers

2018-01-18 03:45

Good for them, gl!

2018-01-18 03:46

Yeah USA needs another tier 8 team gj

bravado isn't a bad team at all actually, they just can't get better without better competition but they have respectable results

2018-01-18 04:22

this

2018-01-18 04:37

2018-01-18 10:03

brevado aren't even top 1 in South Africa, energy rekt them 2 lans in a row now, not even close games in both lans, and they were bo5 finals and brevado couldn't even get a map

2018-01-18 10:57

That's very cool!

2018-01-18 04:29

Hopefully ESEA just gives these fellas a spot in the MDL after the inevitable disbanding of one of these teams before the season starts.

2018-01-18 04:38

2018-01-18 05:24

They will give a spot to 100thieves, i don't think there will be more than one invite spot...

2018-01-18 05:47

>kNg >US visa pick one

2018-01-18 19:15

I pick both as he and his team are going to the US next week. They only couldn't make It to the major because US government asked for a few extra documents, making their visas delayed for 15 more days.

2018-01-18 21:02

rip fns

2018-01-18 21:30

With how NA Premier works, there'll always be another spot. There are more slots than competitive teams.

good luck!

2018-01-18 04:41

I REMEMBER BACK IN THE CSGOLOUNGE DAYS AFRICAN CS CAME FOR BETTING EVERYONE SAID BET ON THE MATCH WITH SONIC ON IT HE IS INSANE AND I DID AND WON BIG HOPE HE REKTS NA SCRUBS

2018-01-18 04:52