CR4ZY agree CS:GO team sale

13-1-2020 12:09

CR4ZY have agreed terms with a North American organisation for the sale of their Counter-Strike team, HLTV.org has learned.

A deal was recently struck after weeks of negotiations, with the transfer expected to be made official by both organisations in the coming days.

It is currently unclear whether CR4ZY are planning to remain involved in Counter-Strike, seven months after the organisation rebranded from Valiance. CR4ZY rose to prominence in the summer of 2019 as one of the surprise packages of the StarLadder Major, where they were just one victory away from the playoffs after beating teams like FURIA, Ninjas in Pyjamas and FaZe in the first two stages of the event.

CR4ZY's team will soon move to a new organisation

With a spot at the first Major of 2020 in the bag, CR4ZY became a hot name in the scene, but they were the victim of their own success as Nemanja "⁠nexa⁠" Isaković and Nemanja "⁠huNter-⁠" Kovač were snared by G2 shortly after the event in Berlin.

To replace the Serbian duo, CR4ZY signed Georgi "⁠SHiPZ⁠" Grigorov from Windigo and moved coach Luka "⁠emi⁠" Vuković back into a player role, with the team going on to win the DreamHack Open stop in Rotterdam and make deep runs at the events in Atlanta, Jönköping and Sevilla.

The European team have the following line-up:

Nestor "⁠LETN1⁠" Tanić
Rokas "⁠EspiranTo⁠" Milasauskas
Otto "⁠ottoNd⁠" Sihvo
Luka "⁠emi⁠" Vuković
Georgi "⁠SHiPZ⁠" Grigorov

Neil "⁠NeiL_M⁠" Murphy (coach)

So?

2020-01-13 12:10

36 replies

lol losers

2020-01-13 12:12

22 replies

Cr4zy org so bad

2020-01-13 12:41

21 replies

-emi +any talent and ez top1 t2

2020-01-13 13:43

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2020-01-13 13:45

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-LETN1 too

2020-01-13 22:33

2020-01-13 16:14

2020-01-13 16:54

dumb that they had emi play as the 5th when he was the coach instead of just kicking him when they got NeiL_M

2020-01-13 17:29

5 replies

why not kick neil M and put emi back to coach?

2020-01-13 17:46

4 replies

Why?

2020-01-13 18:55

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cause emi is better fraggar than neilM

2020-01-13 22:23

they both suck

2020-01-14 00:23

they probably cant afford buying someone better rn

2020-01-13 19:16

+MICHU

2020-01-13 17:53

MICHU should go to an international team he is so good, but he never does so I figure he doesn't want to

2020-01-14 05:11

Yeah You’re right

2020-01-14 14:34

Yeah, but no major spot.

2020-01-13 23:26

Major slots changing anyways

2020-01-18 16:51

Not Rio 2020. Those changes come this Fall.

2020-01-20 00:12

true so sad now, they were quite good with nexa and hunter tho

2020-01-16 04:14

tbh hes a good igl

2020-01-16 15:08

Losing to 4 Dutch players 😂😂

2020-01-13 14:19

Shut the up this is G2’s fault

2020-01-14 05:07

meh they will get a new tier 2 org

2020-01-13 12:21

8 replies

Better than G2 for Sure🤣

2020-01-13 13:09

6 replies

??? G2 top 3 org

2020-01-13 13:24

Sorry read team instead of org.-.

2020-01-13 13:36

3 replies

Noob

2020-01-13 14:56

That's toxic:)....was in the metro, buisy to geht Out:)

2020-01-13 15:40

noob

2020-01-14 19:22

what

2020-01-13 13:25

No complexity obv so they can have a 5 stack smurf roster

2020-01-13 14:23

Why not wait untill Major xdd

2020-01-13 13:12

They can sale their team for more $$$ before the major. The other org is basically paying for a 2020 major spot.

buy low, sell high. This is the highest they're ever going to get for this roster because of the major spot.

2020-01-13 15:18

2020-01-13 23:51

Lol

That so sad :<

lol

Defusekids destroyed the team lmaoo

How come destroyed? They will earn way more now XD

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It's dignitas, they will only earn mousepads

2020-01-13 12:36

dignitas going to sweden with f0rest and co

2020-01-13 12:49

Why does forest want mousepads

2020-01-13 13:14

He thinks they said mouselads and expects to replace chrisJ

2020-01-13 15:07

lOl

2020-01-14 05:39

Tsm?

2020-01-13 17:55

It's gotta be, right?

2020-01-13 19:06

Misfits?

2020-01-13 12:11

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Na league teams over paying for garbage lol

2020-01-13 12:53

Paying for garbage? you talking about Emi and letn1?

2020-01-13 19:01

there are three good players in this team and lent1 and emi have bright spots

2020-01-13 20:36

Thought the same

2020-01-13 13:17

Or TSM who knows

2020-01-13 15:02

TSM has been linked to a full NA team, the only thing we know about misfits is they want a team so its most likely misfits

2020-01-13 15:46

o rite i forgot about that

2020-01-13 23:13

dignitas can be a possibility still twitter.com/dignitas/status/121674547829.. twitter.com/dignitas/status/121673667844..

2020-01-13 22:26

LMAO

2020-01-14 00:00

Just got a conformation that this likely to be just a troll hahah and ex-NiP stuff is the most likely thing to happen :D

2020-01-14 00:02

Wow Rip neil_M

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He just joined a new org and has to find a new one already

2020-01-13 13:18

doesn't matter anyway he's a shit coach who just flip flops around tier 2 teams

2020-01-13 13:20

Doesn't matter his reactions are priceless

2020-01-13 14:00

Don't you think he'll join too?

2020-01-13 15:04

Join who?

2020-01-13 15:09

The org CR4ZY was sold to

2020-01-14 16:03

he got sold with the team which means thats he joins the na org too

2020-01-13 16:27

Didn't read the article the whole way I see now thanks

2020-01-13 16:43

lmao wat

Who?

-AmaNEk +Espiranto

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Lmao

2020-01-13 12:13

Can’t change lineup before majors if they want a direct slot, they already lost hunter and nexa.

2020-01-13 13:05

pretty sure they would get cr4zy´s slot in this case since its 3/5 players from their major lineup

2020-01-13 15:08

Isnt the spot with the org, not the players and the org can decide whether to sell their major spot.?

2020-01-13 15:26

nope slot always goes to the majority of the previous lineup

2020-01-13 15:53

They would, but they can’t change anything before major. Or maybe they can use that coach trick, where they enter their new player as a coach and don’t have actual coach at all. Hellraisers did it Berlin.

2020-01-13 16:41

Yea-yea. Then - kennys +ottond -jackz +shipZ

Lmao then rename G2 "CR4ZY"

2020-01-13 13:47

G2ZY

2020-01-13 13:59

G4YZY

2020-01-13 16:06

G4YZY2

2020-01-13 16:15

2020-01-13 15:05

+1 they should’ve done it initially

2020-01-13 18:10

JaCkz is the one who has problems with the language, but honestly I like both for vitality (?). Also EspiranTo would be a good player for Na'Vi instead of GuardiaN

2020-01-13 21:37

expected after the loss against defusekids

lmao, so this NA org literally bought dead squad with only 1 asset which is major spot

That's a perfectly acceptable reason? All they'd have to do is just decide what they want to do with emi and ShipZ, the core is one thats clearly worked in past

2020-01-13 12:19

u serious? shipz must definitely stay, letn1 and emi are horseshit

2020-01-13 14:03

They lose the major spot if they remove LETN1

2020-01-13 14:16

wait until after rio then -letn1 and -emi

2020-01-13 14:39

that's why they gonna remove emi lmao

2020-01-13 14:52

this team has potential just gotta -emi and maybe -letn1 and get some good players

2020-01-13 12:20

i think thats the plan tbh. they just have to play the major with that lineup but after that they can swap players that dont perform

2020-01-13 12:25

Maybe michu?

2020-01-13 12:54

- emi - letn1 + michu + calyx tier2 easy

IGL who? EZKEKW

Bro Calyx joined Envy

2020-01-13 15:38

I hope they are paying him in cash

2020-01-13 18:58

its a rare asset in NA tho...

2020-01-13 12:34

Its your chance,TSM

Nah it’s probably dignitas

Nah

2020-01-13 12:58

Nah Forest and Co will go to dignitas. It will be misfits or TSM

2020-01-13 12:59

Ur right I forgot about misfits

2020-01-13 13:06

there is a possibility still, the rumored dignitas roster still hasn't been confirmed + some "clever" tweets on Dignitas' twitter twitter.com/dignitas/status/121673667844.. twitter.com/dignitas/status/121674547829..

2020-01-13 22:28

2020-01-13 13:00

#297

2020-01-13 22:29

Expected

scam org

i can buy :)

Save espiranto

No clue why people are so hyped about him. He's too inconsistent

2020-01-13 12:48

Well theres a few Players who we're very inconsistent and are in top 10 Teams now performing...If hes Young and kinda inexperienced and Shows Off Sometimes he has the Potential at least

So do quite a few, he still gotta get consistent before he really 'shows potential'

2020-01-13 14:21

Nothing personal

2020-01-13 19:45

he just needs imo a better team with more experienced player i know he can put up more into the game but i doubt he will get any better with this line up

2020-01-13 20:43

no way its tsm

Ur right it’s gonna be dignitas

Misfits

-emi +michu

2020-01-13 12:14

actually a solid shout if their roles are at all similar

2020-01-13 16:16

Kick 2 serbian players and take any1

2020-01-13 12:15

hahahahahaha

If they kick emi and LETN1, they could build a good roster around the other three players...

Probably will after major, for now they need them for the major

Cr4zy good

2020-01-13 12:17

Very exciting, I hope Espiranto get's the chance to play for a big org. The core of Espiranto, Otto & Shipz still has a lot of potential, just get rid of the 2 serbians, get an IGL and a fragger or supportive player.

They wont do that because of the major slot..

Do it after the Major

Following BnTeT's trails?

2020-01-13 12:35

Espiranto is awful and really overrated. Just look at his stats.

2020-01-13 12:46

His stats are good

2020-01-13 12:51

wow thats crazy

-1

2020-01-13 13:48

TSM?

It should've done way early coz crazy ceo said they dont have money left to pay the players so no surprise in this

that's pretty sad tbh

2020-01-13 14:45

Wowowewa, who?

2020-01-13 12:22

TSM inc

2020-01-13 12:23

Do your job TSM and please don't sign that NA Mythic team

Pog

blameF poizon k0nfig EspiranTo SHiPZ

2020-01-13 12:27

too good to be true

sick team +1

This is actually super good

2020-01-13 16:12

tier1 potential but complexity owners will never be smart enough for this move

2020-01-13 20:01

Obviously TSM?

tsm gonna get wardell moose and some other NA players

Maybe changed their mind :D ?

2020-01-13 14:18

mayby idk

2020-01-13 15:22

Misfits or Envy

2020-01-13 12:29

TSM

ok i buy for 5dollars

2020-01-13 12:30

-emi +MICHU make this happen and top10 soon

2020-01-13 12:32

Envy 100% TSM already has a the old NIP squad

Wasn't that Dignitas that take the NiP squad?

Oh yeah ups you're right

Dignitas have the old nip And tsm got na players like wardell lol

2020-01-13 12:38

They could bench them hehe. But you're right it's unlikely that it's Envy.

2020-01-13 12:37

Brilliant pick up, major spot + amazing core of players...

+1 imo stupid move by crazy, should've do this after major

Cr4zy didn't have money to pay the players

2020-01-13 13:04

CR4ZY can only afford low tier teams man, you saw their sketch about getting a sponsor? I think it's similar to AVANGAR case.

2020-01-13 14:28

TYTYTYTY JUST BOUGHT 6 OF THERE STICKERS FOR CHEAPPPP EASY PROFIT!!!!

Wow youre gonna make like 1€ with those stickers

uhhm 1st no I will make more frofit 2nd if you can appriciate small things you will not be worthy of anything big 3rd do it big scale. 1 sticker makes you 20 cents lets say, a 1000 will make you 200 euo

2020-01-13 13:38

Ok, you're gonna make like 1,20€ with those stickers

2020-01-13 13:46

i am expecting these 2 options - short term make 5-7 euro each sticker - long term make 10+ each sticker

2020-01-13 14:30

täähän se ois

2020-01-13 14:43

not going to happen though cr4zy isnt an org with a big fanbase or particulary good looking stickers they will still stay the same no way will they go to 5-6 euros

2020-01-13 15:11

these stickers are just gonna be eBettle 2.0 tbh

2020-01-13 14:47

My money is on NRG.

2020-01-13 12:39

fuck i forgot they back in the running now

CR4ZY CEO at StarLadder Major interview w/ Prof: youtu.be/kfABW9XTzTA?t=987 Start at 16:30 "huNter- is worth 100 million"

2020-01-13 12:42

and?

2020-01-13 20:45

Will they keep their place on the main qualifier for the major tho?

Yes

Fucking G2 bastards

2020-01-13 12:47

+xantares

2020-01-13 12:50

expected

Luuuuul

-emi +xantares +NRG

-letn1/emi(only 1 can igl) +MICHU

Tier 2 US org with European players? Its gotta be Flipside.

2020-01-13 13:19

this is a really great move by crazy. It definetly is alot of money that they can invest

OttoNd EspiranTo Shipz Michu MSL Now is a good team

2020-01-13 13:32

damn I forgot MSL existed

2020-01-13 14:48

Damn its a sick roster actually

2020-01-13 15:23

thanks s2

2020-01-13 15:32

2020-01-13 17:26

+1 mano

It's probably TSM

2020-01-13 13:34

TSM or Misfits

2020-01-13 13:40

It's comeback Time -IBuyPower

If ibp sign these guys id be so happy

2020-01-13 15:37

Waste money

2020-01-13 13:53

SkitLite

rogue?

Flipside tactics is US based and has a thing for European based players.

-emi +msl

2020-01-13 14:02

2020-01-13 14:04

this is what you get for being cheap and ignorant, transferring your coach into a player

2020-01-13 14:10

Probably TSM bought them

2020-01-13 14:13

-emi -letn1 after major ez

So potentially NRG Misfits Envy but not TSM or Dignitas maybe Rouge

2020-01-13 14:24

Is flipside still a thing?

2020-01-13 15:36

idk but markeloff isn't on another team yet

2020-01-13 20:04

otto Espi Shipz Michu IGL? Maybe letn1 can igl,he is usseles anyway

2020-01-13 14:34

emi is good IGL. Why you want to put LETN1 on IGL xd

misfits or envy inc

2020-01-13 14:41

dignitas

2020-01-13 14:49

faze need to buy espiranto, he is fckng beast.

F3 back? or MSF

2020-01-13 14:51

2020-01-13 14:55

-emi +michu After major -letn1 +some igl (maybe even mslul) T2 team

2020-01-13 14:58

why -emi? He is their coach and started to play as IGL and still has positivie KD and his IGL is good so emi MICHU Shipz EspiranTo ottond

2020-01-13 15:33

XD!

2020-01-13 14:59

Just bring Shipz to Complexity to replace Rush! EZ -Rush, + Shipzz Would be so good with Bulgarian friend Poizon

2020-01-13 15:19

G2 killed them. (Although tbf there were better players available than their coach so it’s not like Cr4zy is blameless)

2020-01-13 15:24

It’s not dignitas and its not TSM.... prob some new org.

twitter.com/dignitas/status/121673667844.. :>

2020-01-13 19:57

seems like its going to be dignitas kinda unexpected tbh or maybe they're trolling us?

2020-01-13 20:49

We will see :)

2020-01-13 20:53

Can you just replace letn1 and emi? This just looks sad for espirsnto and ottond :(

can't cause letn1 holds major spot

TSM? Misfits? NRG?

#267

i bet on nrg

2020-01-13 15:41

good, nobody needs an org with a name that cringe

2020-01-13 15:51

Ragequit after losing to defusekids

2020-01-13 16:02

They do still have a good team but what will their name be changed too if it is sold?.. will it still be Cr4zy?..

2020-01-13 16:05

gyazo.com/046543a6c3222e62c6797db627dce6.. yes

Best of luck

never should’ve sold my cr4zy stickers

I've bought one at the major just because I knew nexa and hunter were about to leave for g2, did the same with INTZ, many of dreameasters etc. I mean, for like 20 cents it's worth a try.

2020-01-13 16:36

+1 i bought like 10 of those and was like ok they’re not going up even with huNter and nexa leaving so ima sell, huge mistake. now they’re more expensive than berlin liquid and astralis stickers

2020-01-13 17:11

-emi +anyone

2020-01-13 16:23

+SIXER men

2020-01-13 16:53

OH MY...

2020-01-13 16:34

twitter.com/dignitas/status/121673667844.. I think we all know the answer.

This team is dead with EMI and letn1 lol

2020-01-13 17:15

This is cr4zy!

2020-01-13 17:36

wasting money on emi and letni LMFAO

2020-01-13 17:54

Think bigger picture. The org that is buying them, is getting a major spot and sticker money. They have to keep letn1/otto/espi core for that major spot but after major they can change roster again just keeping core of 3 players like otto/espi/shipz and they can get rid of emi and letn1

2020-01-13 18:05

Oof

2020-01-13 18:11

Prob will be Rogue or Misfits. Both are NA orgs with EU ties with LoL and both have history with CSGO. A lot of orgs want in with this b site league according to Dekay so it adds up I guess.

2020-01-13 18:12

the lineup is garbage anyway AXAXAXAXAX

2020-01-13 18:16

Misfits MICHU sounds good to me

2020-01-13 18:50

2020-01-13 19:11

Keep shipz, otto, espi and add 2 more good players. Somehow, I am sure this org will fuck everything up and keep letn1, emi and then get rid of shipz/espi or some shit like that.

2020-01-13 19:37

one P250 Sand Dune final offer

2020-01-13 19:46

Maybe Rogue or Misfits

2020-01-13 19:54

2020-01-13 19:56

sad but expected

twitter.com/dignitas/status/121673667844.. Dignitas INC

Not only that but this one too. twitter.com/dignitas/status/121674547829..

2020-01-13 20:22

nope gyazo.com/d499df66e0dadf5396e996ad110a26..

2020-01-14 08:15

Probably TSM

2020-01-13 19:58

#267 (above ur comment)

2020-01-13 19:59

Yeah saw it afterwards. Looks like they're not signing Forest and those guys then

2020-01-13 21:36

Dignitas 75%. Let's go finally someone will save Otto,Espi and Shipz

2020-01-13 20:15

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Dignitas already have roster It's TSM maybe

2020-01-13 20:37

how u know?

2020-01-13 20:50

hltv.org/news/28767/f0rests-move-to-dign..

2020-01-14 21:31

dignitas jebaited me so hard

2020-01-15 00:02

2020-01-15 21:50

1. Dignitas doesnt "already have a roster" lol. 2. Dignitas tweeted this: twitter.com/dignitas/status/121673667844.. And this: twitter.com/dignitas/status/121674547829.. lol

2020-01-13 20:54

2020-01-14 21:32

"5/1/2020" And then "radio silence" lol. Who knows. Dignitas still doesnt have a roster, they have a roster when one is announced. And now when they type "Crazy" aka Cr4zy and "Cr4zy" it could be the cr4zy lineup tbh.

2020-01-14 21:39

its isnt Dignitas or TSM gyazo.com/d499df66e0dadf5396e996ad110a26..

He can't say it bcs it is in conracts to not say if the org didn't announce it dude. (But it still could be ATK in my opinion but it's only 25% for me)

2020-01-14 13:09

He says it's an new guys, so probably new org in csgo

2020-01-14 13:10

Strange didn't hear that new org iš coming from NA but OK.

2020-01-14 13:46

save bOttoNd

2020-01-13 20:47

nice

2020-01-13 20:52

nrg?

2020-01-13 21:56

2020-01-13 22:50

That’s good, i hope their new org handles things better and more like professionals. Not some random serbian mafia dirty money broke as fuck mf’s who can’t pay to their players in time.

2020-01-14 01:31

nice source hltv

2020-01-14 07:14

if they would be sell, would stay roster same?

2020-01-14 08:08

they must keep espiranto/letn1/ottond core otherwise they lose the major spot. i think they will play next major with that roster and then start to make changes (possibly -emi/letn1)

2020-01-14 08:21