[VOD] Discussing G2's role and player changes, NIP - Anonymo case on HLTV Confirmed with maLeK

17-5-2021 19:50

G2's coach Damien "⁠maLeK⁠" Marcel will join the show at 20:00 to give insight into his team and take part in hot-topic discussions.

An eventful week in Counter-Strike led up to the 40th episode of the fifth season of HLTV Confirmed, our weekly talk show featuring Chad "⁠SPUNJ⁠" Burchill, Milan "⁠Striker⁠" Švejda, Zvonimir "Professeur, and prominent guests. This time around, the French tactician maLeK will be joining in the "Hot Seat".

The coach will shine some light on G2's role changes

Recent news and results, including the early Flashpoint exits from FaZe and fnatic, as well as Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli stepping down from ENCE, will be covered on the show, before a deep dive into the breaking news regarding the contested match between Anonymo and Ninjas in Pyjamas.

Additionally, the panel will touch on the discussion regarding the tournament break and oversaturation in the light of the reschedule of ESL and BLAST events in the second half of the year.

Topic list for the show:

Hot seat with maLeK
- Acquiring NiKo
- Initial AmaNEk - JaCkz dillema
- kennyS change, AWPing question
- What is the future of G2?
- Parimatch Matchmaker
Recent news
- allu takes leave
- Ancient to be played in June
RMR roundup
- CIS: Everything as expected, including NAVI loss
- EU: Press F for FaZe and fnatic
Drama alert
- Breaking down NIP - Anonymo situation
- Schedule change, tournament break, player uproar
Playtime
- Viewer questions and leftover topics

Keep track of the show on social media:

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HLTV Confirmed Audio

NIP did nothing wrong

2021-05-17 13:41

35 replies

Anonymo too

2021-05-17 13:43

2 replies

Well, their CEO (?) did try to get a default win on the first map saying that the hour delay broke the 'no show' rule. Default hunting is pretty scummy. Also claimed the players were 'super upset' while trying to get a default win, but no communication was meant to be had with the players so apparently he can read minds through closed doors /shrug. (During online matches only players are allowed in the room and on the server. Neither coaches nor any other team staff will be allowed in the room, on the server, or to otherwise communicate with the team during an online match.)

2021-05-18 01:53

1 reply

you know that NIP's players tweets during that pause?

2021-05-18 22:14

This is all Trashpoint's fault but don't act like NiP is innocent

2021-05-17 13:44

8 replies

What did NIP do?

Device propably got lagged once in third round and after they won 1st map they were laughing etc, but after lost malding about 40% packet loss and flashpoint still didint public the evidence that Nip applied looks suspicious even for blind people.

2021-05-17 15:40

they missed the golden chance to grind their way back from lowers and show everyone their worth !

2021-05-17 23:36

Trashpoint did nothing wrong, how are they responsible for NIP's shitty networking? They've already proven it was some security settings on their own router. *shoots self in foot* "How could flashpoint do this to us?"

2021-05-17 14:06

3 replies

security settings on faceits servers*

2021-05-17 14:14

It was on faceits end not nip's, get your facts straight

2021-05-17 14:23

Then what NIP did wrong, do you think NIP can control their network issues? I think there is no one who can be mistaken. There is a lot of misunderstanding. I definitely think it got this much attention because of device joining NIP. It would have been different if this situation occurs in the same way it did without device. There is so much hate and rants without any kind of thinking.

2021-05-17 14:34

NIP is innocent. they did theitr job of complaining... Trashpoint shouldnt have reschedule the game THO..

2021-05-17 17:22

Anonymo did nothing wrong $1.000.000 compensation for NiP and Anonymo for wasting their time, nerves and reputation from Faceit, then rematch. Also official apology from faceit on main page- "We fucked up - we're sorry" I would be happy then

2021-05-17 13:45

18 replies

or free major slots B)

2021-05-17 13:48

Nice name

2021-05-17 14:59

I agree in that Flashpoint and Faceit should have given their apologies in the first place. To both NIP and Anonymo. On the NIP side, it is strange they continued playing to the end with those severe connection problems.

2021-05-17 15:23

14 replies

probably because they easily won first map (what would be really hard with 40% loss even if they played vs you and me) and thought then can easy finish this but then lost somehow

2021-05-17 15:24

That's what I mean. They could have refused to continue playing at some point. The lack of published technical information on that match makes the whole situation suspicious.

2021-05-17 15:31

7 replies

If they refused to play they would have lost the game by WO. So why not try to win the game anyway. Nothing to lose.

2021-05-17 17:12

6 replies

It's sort of unfair in regards to Anonymo then.

2021-05-17 19:28

5 replies

Unfortunately this is unfair to both teams. When Flashpoint decided to play the match regardless of the connection problems they passed the "point of no return". Now nothing good can come out of it. If Anonymous keep the win it will be questioned cause of the technical problems and NIP never get's a fair chance. If the match will be replayed NIP will know how Anonymous play the maps right from the start. Also unfair.

2021-05-17 19:59

4 replies

Yes, I see your point, Zeke67. I think it's impossible to make a final judgment on this without knowing (1) the technical details of the connection issues and (2) the game regulations. I cannot believe there is no clause that would permit a team to legally quit a match when it is going on, if connection problems are caused by the organizer. There should be something like that. If there isn't , such a clause should be introduced. Especially during this online era, when everyone is playing via the Internet.

2021-05-17 21:33

so if the match be replayed anonymo wont know how nip will play the map from the start ? its game of shooting heads kek

2021-05-18 00:23

Well, I am pretty shure NIP was favorites in this match for a reason. If no team has tactic advantage NIP most likely have the upper hand. With that being said I hope NIP lose cause it's the best scenario for everyone. Anonymo won't be "cheated" of their win and NIP get their will for a rematch, If they lose it changes nothing.

2021-05-18 19:02

anonymo have to play vs nip without disadvantage today , thats so unfair

What else they should do? Would you rather fight with disadvantage or just give up?

2021-05-17 17:01

I've just seen your message. Above, I've replied to Zeku67 about this problem. Since the rematch does take place, good luck to both teams tonight. I am neither a fan of Anonymo, nor Ninjas.

2021-05-18 21:36

If after 2nd map NIP said, we cannot play, but the admin insisted on them playing, the a rematch is totally fair. But we don't know technical details and words that were said exactly. It's a black box.

2021-05-18 21:54

Yeah, there were screenshots from in-game chats. Admin just ignored what NiP players was saying and just told them to get ready lol.

2021-05-19 13:16

I didn't see those.

2021-05-24 07:58

nahh 5 billion dollars should do it they have suffered so much and you wanna compensate them with merely a million dollars?

2021-05-17 17:40

Thank you! Very clever german indeed!

2021-05-17 14:15

They did, they should refuse to play, why they didint? They were confident or what? they should assume they will lost. If they refused Trashpoint propably will give Anonymo w/o but could u imagine how big drama will start then? The match will be played different day 100%.

2021-05-17 14:17

Read NiPs time-line that they've put out. Obviously pinch of salt on some of the things, but there was communication from Anonymo's Org that NiP should forfeit the match and take the DQ. Obviously, the Anonymo players in the server were happy to just postpone but I think the issue for NiP was at an Organisational level. Without staff being able to communicate to the players while the match is live (RMR Rules) there was great confusion. While I agree that it never should have reached this point, it is almost entirely Flashpoint's fault that it did. Poor handling of the situation and inability to give themselves enough time to sort it out imo.

2021-05-17 17:17

2021-05-17 15:47

Very nice

SPUNJ RANT LET'S GO

2021-05-17 13:42

SPUNJ has a brain and should be under the opinion that this is solely on flashpoint.

2021-05-17 13:47

can t wait o his opinion about it

bet all your channel points

2021-05-17 14:08

will be interesting to see what malek thinks about the NIP drama

exactly what I was thinking

ez4malek

maleK so great

2021-05-18 08:10

spunj rant meter: 10000000%

There we go, let's see opinion about this trashpoint and NiP (want's better debut) #JusticeForAnonymo

My man

2021-05-17 13:49

That's gonna be interesting to watch

2021-05-17 13:54

Spunj about to uleash his freestyle on Fuckpoint case, I'm preordering CD

2021-05-17 13:56

2021-05-17 15:17

XD THIS

2021-05-17 15:44

XD and I'm preordering liver

2021-05-17 17:16

Everything as expected, including NAVI loss

2021-05-17 14:02

E1lan > S2mple sorry

2021-05-17 14:37

it's ok friend, i car about your opinion)

2021-05-17 15:42

Name checks out F for i_car

2021-05-17 16:06

indeed :(

2021-05-17 16:55

I would like to see Karrigan back to hear about if he can get a tournament win before Mouz does

2021-05-17 15:01

9 replies

I would to see chris back.......

2021-05-17 16:38

sadge for you fpx bought emi instead of Chris the Bonk somehow they're doink well

2021-05-17 17:20

Zen talked smack about emi on a podcast is Finnish and they all wanted to play with Chris and then no

lmao Chris is the only drama queen in this case.

Any proofs?

2021-05-17 20:04

There are only 2 options left, either Chris wanted a large salary OR Mouz set an impossible buy out on ChrisJ, which is unprobable because who else will buy ChrisJ if not FPX? Now they have him on bench and have to pay his salary which is not very profitable for any company.

2021-05-17 20:10

0/8 ur just assuming it’s Chris and not the org....,

2021-05-17 20:11

2021-05-18 09:08

faze -rain +ropz -coldzera +young talent karrigan has chance to build young team, like in mouz, successful for 6 months, after 9 months end carrier, because karrigan system always just works for 9-12 months.

“Disgusting” XD

2021-05-17 15:35

I just wanna see NIP's face in case they lose again. I would not lose the chance to roast them if i were Annonymo and i'd be training like hell to do so.

2021-05-17 16:12

If it was Anonymo who lost and argued for a rematch, Trashpoint wouldn't do shit about it.

2021-05-17 16:17

if anonymo lost they wouldn't even ask for rematch because they would lose again kek

2021-05-18 00:47

"- EU: Press F for FaZe and fnatic" lmao that's a good one

2021-05-17 16:28

it's going to be a banger

2021-05-17 16:32

Cant wait for drama alert))

2021-05-17 16:37

Discuss G2's prospects. They have won 4 trophies in their existence, and the time is now ripe with Niko. They are getting there, and with time maybe they'll even win. But what are they doing towards it? I heard G2's team comms, and malek seemed to just be saying "relax, breathe, come on guys, guys you can do it" all the time lol. He's a coach, not a cheerleader. I wanna know more about G2's internal working.

2021-05-17 16:42

watch his interview with thooorin and legija then

2021-05-17 16:58

Why so late I need my SpunJ Rant now

2021-05-17 16:50

Frankly im gonna watch only to hear what they have to say about FaZe. Last time hltv c staff was completely unprepared lmao. Maybe at least malek will have something to say

Let's go damdam

2021-05-17 17:05

alternative title: Spunj about to boom trashpoint

2021-05-17 17:18

NIP has not done anything wrong. Neither has Anonymo. But flashpoint is an organisation of amateurs. So bad handled

2021-05-17 18:15

LOL reading chat is gonna be fun

2021-05-17 20:15

SPUNJ spitting hot fire

2021-05-17 22:21

Well said SPUNJ

2021-05-17 22:25

Striker is the only one not using his emotions but his logic.

2021-05-17 22:30

Atrocious takes by Professeur and Striker as per usual, someone save Chad

2021-05-17 22:51

2021-05-17 23:54

+1 spunj

2021-05-18 00:42

Spunj <3 what would hltv confirmed be without him

If your whole argument is that "the integrity of the match was compromised", then you cannot come to the conclusion that "the match should never be replayed". If the integrity of the match has been compromised, it means so have the results. So, you can't go forward with that. Yes, the match should never have happened in the first place. But given that it has happened, the only logical way forward is a rematch. Striker's argument was the most logical here.

2021-05-18 01:05

Love the show. Kinda can't understand why Striker thinks like a rematch is the only FAIR solution. It could have been only if the game wasn't fully finished and then the whole drama starting only coz Anonymo came out winning. If the game got stopped at 1-1 scoreline - fair enough, probably the best decision, which unfortunately didn't happen. If the game got stopped after 2nd map when the game was 1-1 in maps and it would be decided to playout the 3rd map the next day for example if NIP made it clear that they're still having same issues - arguably the last chance to stop this shit and avoid the drama we have now. Calling a rematch over 24hrs after the initial game finished is just bullshit, basically Anonymo has to win 2 BO3's to move one step in the bracket, while NIP has lost one BO3 and now they just have another chance to advance, basically played a pracc to see what their opponents are capable of and now they're ready to play official. Anonymo is the only side in this case that did nothing wrong until after the game (childish memes were unnecessary, gotta agree) yet they're gonna be the only side punished if the game is gonna be replayed in the end. Flashpoint is definitely the side that should take most of the blame, but NIP could have also handled the situation differently in the beginning.

2021-05-18 01:21

fanboy shh

2021-05-18 01:29

Not really, nice try tho

2021-05-18 08:37

Striker proved that he is "the reasonable one".

2021-05-18 02:22

we need definitely the truth come out, @flashpoint, please share the logs so people can see what is this legendary "Anti-NIP Security Setting" so this can be prevented by other tournament organizations! Thanks alot in advance!

2021-05-18 02:39

exactly, without this tech data everything is looks very shaddy :(

2021-05-18 14:35

maleK so visionary

2021-05-18 08:12

i don't get it... polish fanboys... your team won in OT, but it wasn't a fair match. How can't you accept a rematch? How can you even feel like its unjustified if they take this "fictory" from you? If it wasn't a fair match (they forced NIP to play), you shouldn't feel like your team won in the first place. Shame on you for blaming NIP for it. Its a contest... the better team should win and not the lucky one. If Anonymo is the better team, they will win the rematch as well. bla bla... NIP saw how Anonymo is playing... its not fair OMG... well gues what... Anonymo saw them too... if you don't rely on luck and surprises the better team will win. They have the same time to prepair now. ------ Would have been better without any issues of course, but as a sportsmen you want a fair fight and not just the positive result.

2021-05-18 09:31

+1 Innocent is malding hard on twitter. He is exactly opposite to his name.

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2021-05-19 01:16