NBK-: "Never been so confused about such an unfair and rushed decision"

18-3-2022 16:55

The French player didn't hide his disappointment by the removal from MOUZ.

Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt took to Twitter to comment on his departure from MOUZ's active lineup, which surprised not only the CS:GO community, but the player himself. After just two months and merely 25 maps played, the veteran was benched in favor of the academy player Jon "⁠JDC⁠" de Castro.

NBK- goes out of the active lineup at an unfortunate time

"I have been notified 20 hours ago that I have been put as an inactive player by the management in the MOUZ roster," NBK- wrote on social media, revealing that he had little time to process the news that broke mid-day on Friday.

"I have never been so confused about such an unfair and rushed decision."

The benching leaves NBK- with little hope at competing at the Europe RMR or the following Major in Antwerp, as teams have, for the most part, been consolidated. In addition to that, a freshly-signed contract could impend the 27-year-old's hopes of finding a new home soon.

JDC replaces NBK- on MOUZ

"I will chill over the next days to calm down and will start streaming individual practice," NBK- added, before finishing his social media address with shoutouts to his former teammates, even his replacement JDC.

"Only love for torzsi, dexter, frozen, Bymas, and JDC that I truly enjoyed playing with every day! See ya," NBK- concluded.

The reactions to MOUZ's roster change have been split. Analyst and former coach Janko "⁠YNk⁠" Paunović stated that he is "not a big fan of this change" due to the lack of an experienced player on the team, while fellow analyst Alex "⁠Mauisnake⁠" Ellenberg stated that he was happy for JDC, praising him as a "well-rounded player."

Agreed

2022-03-18 16:56

46 replies

I'm a mouse fan but this decision is so fkn unfair for NBK.

2022-03-18 17:00

41 replies

How is dexter keep getting away

2022-03-18 16:59

35 replies

Cause the "igl" title is like get out of jail free card.

2022-03-18 17:01

30 replies

Deserved NBK is toxic as f

2022-03-18 17:05

15 replies

NBK tasting his own poison, he must feel good being "the problem" lmao

2022-03-18 17:39

6 replies

wtf lost all respect

2022-03-18 18:12

3 replies

rip nbk, i was a big nbk truther but sometimes hard to deny he was bottom fragging a lot of maps.

2022-03-18 18:23

2 replies

He's a support player not an entry How do you expect him to top frag?

2022-03-19 07:28

1 reply

He did though, just only a few maps- inconsistent on the rest however.

2022-03-19 12:45

you cannot make judgements whatsoever when you post "mibr are the best team in the world" in 2021, seriously

2022-03-18 18:27

1 reply

Well.. he didn't necessarily say inside the server..

2022-03-18 21:54

..what???????????????? his work ethic has been praised by nearly every teammate he has played with

2022-03-18 18:26

7 replies

Is that why he showed the middle finger to Xtqzzz during the live broadcast on a major? Or is that what the work ethic is now called?If you don't know anything, it's better to remain silent.

2022-03-18 18:39

6 replies

If i remember correctly it was a joke you know showing the middle finger to your friends when you see them in public and so on. There was even a tweet about it but cant remember who it was since its so long ago

2022-03-18 18:52

2 replies

dont be mad at him. how would he know, he doesnt have any friends

2022-03-18 19:50

1 reply

ouch, harsh but probably not wrong

2022-03-19 04:16

Lol that what friends do to each other, its called banter with mates. Maybe you have never experienced this, not your fault.

2022-03-18 19:14

1 reply

expected from Japanese, they will get beaten hard by parents if they do this shit

2022-03-19 05:47

"If you don't know anything, it's better to remain silent." Such wisdom. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_finger

2022-03-18 22:26

bruh nbk would be a better igl than that bot dexter

2022-03-18 17:19

3 replies

False.

2022-03-18 17:21

irellevant to my comment

2022-03-18 17:29

completely factually incorrect

2022-03-18 18:24

-Dexter -JDC +AZR +jks

2022-03-18 17:45

1 reply

2022-03-18 23:22

+1 so True It`s like IGL`s that are bad individually have a shield against kicks because they have to think toooo fucking much about his team that it became acceptable that he always underperforms BS imo

2022-03-18 18:06

4 replies

It is just Karrigan that has the card nowadays, but he also has a team around him that he can go down a bit. They basically always win when he is killing though.

2022-03-18 19:02

3 replies

Huh? Boombla? Zeus when he was still in navi?

2022-03-18 19:19

2 replies

Yeah but look at the firepower difference comparing Navi and Faze to Mouz

2022-03-18 19:26

1 reply

exactly. Also, mans put zeus like they didn't have super good players on his team. And everyone calls him a super good caller, like karrigan. idk what people are on anymore bruh

2022-03-19 01:19

You seem like the kind of guy who would put 5 Shrouds on the same team because he's good at clicking heads

2022-03-19 09:00

2 replies

When liquid dominated, that was basically the team game plan. Some simple nades setup and go click on heads

2022-03-19 09:26

You seem like typical murican retard. If you didnt notice most teams have igls who arent completelly trash at clicking at people. Nexa, glaive, nafany, jame, cadian, hampus, art(i think its art igl for furia?) etc.

2022-03-19 12:12

He has a kid to support.

2022-03-18 17:08

1 reply

most underrated comment in a while on here

2022-03-19 13:29

karrigan is calling

2022-03-18 21:11

How is there still so many stupid people like you who think dexter is bad.......?

2022-03-20 14:55

+1 im really not sure what to feel about it, on one hand im excited for JDC but it also feels so unfair for NBK who only played 1 event with full team and 1 with standin

2022-03-18 17:04

1 reply

2022-03-18 17:31

Feel the same!

2022-03-18 17:15

2022-03-18 18:23

same

2022-03-18 19:05

super bad decision

2022-03-18 16:58

True

2022-03-18 17:46

2st

2022-03-18 20:21

Never been confused about an unfair decision? Wants he on teams with ego maniac shox who took over teams and kicked people only to later leave the burning ship and blames others?

2022-03-19 03:01

lul

2022-03-18 16:56

9 replies

It's business and sometimes you have to take sacrifices (mouz)

2022-03-18 17:18

8 replies

If you remove someone that is well known in the scene after two months, then that isn't a good picture of your management skills in first place.

2022-03-18 19:06

7 replies

I'm getting a 404 error on your logic sir

2022-03-18 23:05

6 replies

I'm getting a 404 error on your brain sir

2022-03-19 03:20

He means that its not like nbk is a new guy in scene. If you hire a player like him, you basically know 100% what you will get, how he'll play, etc. So of course to buy him and then bench him after two months looks bad on management

2022-03-19 09:33

4 replies

While you get to see what kind of player he is in the server it's hard to know how he is as a person outside the game and mentally on the server without him being in the team. I'm like 75% sure at this point NBK has attitude problems and that's the reasons for his 3 latest benching.

2022-03-19 10:27

3 replies

he wrote in some recent article that he was diagnosed autistic and was learning how he had negatively affected the dynamics at his previous teams

2022-03-19 12:12

2 replies

OK, good to know. That probably is at least part of the reason then. Unlucky for him.

2022-03-19 12:13

1 reply

dotesports.com/counter-strike/news/forme..

2022-03-19 20:12

NByeK

2022-03-18 16:56

should have kicked dexter…

2022-03-18 16:56

61 replies

99% of HLTV users dont watch the matches they just look at the scores end of game. If they did they'd see the constant 300 IQ plays Dexter does. He is the best IGl in the world but because he doesn't frag a lot in the bad roles he plays k1cK d3xTeR!!1

2022-03-18 16:58

60 replies

flag opinion invalid

2022-03-18 16:58

41 replies

Name a better IGL, I'll wait

2022-03-18 16:58

40 replies

Seized

2022-03-18 16:59

5 replies

0/8

2022-03-18 17:00

4 replies

sry, i forget to look at ur flag. Now everything make sense.

2022-03-18 17:01

3 replies

Because being a 14y old posting irrelevant stuff on hltv makes way more sense to you, right?

2022-03-18 17:36

2 replies

yes

2022-03-18 17:38

i dont think so u can choose anyway. if mods will be at bad mood, they will delete it anyways.

2022-03-18 18:05

NBK

2022-03-18 16:59

10 replies

Clearly not, he's benched

2022-03-18 17:00

8 replies

which is why everyone is saying it's a stupid decision NBK is a proven IGL Dexter not really

2022-03-18 17:01

7 replies

NBK isn't a proven igl at all lmfao He IGLd what? In 2018 for a month or so

2022-03-18 17:03

4 replies

bad bait please reconsider your life

2022-03-18 17:05

3 replies

Ok friend

2022-03-18 17:06

huh nbk isn't a proven igl, but they can get a better IGL then Dexter from walmart

2022-03-18 17:08

1 reply

dexter from walmart would slap his fat c*ck on your face if you ever met him in a cs match.

2022-03-18 17:55

In which universe is he proven as main igl?

2022-03-18 17:32

1 reply

in his heads universe ^^

2022-03-18 19:15

2022-03-18 17:01

Birdfromsky

2022-03-18 16:59

5 replies

Cheater

2022-03-18 17:00

4 replies

And that makes him better, 500iq cheating and never getting cought.

2022-03-18 17:01

2 replies

Huge

2022-03-18 17:03

500 IQ and counting.

2022-03-18 17:20

Cheaterfromsky

2022-03-18 18:07

you must be keeding lad

2022-03-18 17:03

Name a worse igl then Dexter, i'll wait

2022-03-18 17:04

4 replies

Every other IGL

2022-03-18 17:04

2 replies

Again, flag

2022-03-18 17:08

Flag

2022-03-18 17:32

Niko?

2022-03-18 17:25

INS

2022-03-18 17:08

2 replies

Maybe I'll make an exception for GOD INS

2022-03-18 17:09

1 reply

#YTB #RNGFAM

2022-03-18 17:09

nbk

2022-03-18 19:23

Hampus goat IGL

2022-03-18 19:31

siuhy.

2022-03-18 20:58

Apex Nafany Boombl4 Cadian Glaive Karrigan Jame Hampus aleksib nexa

2022-03-19 04:05

4 replies

apex - only strat is zywoo go kill nafany - only strat is ax1le and sh1ro go kill boombl4 - only strat is s1mple go kill cadian - Adderall abuser (online compared to LAN lol) gla1ve - washed up, carried by his 2016-2019 legacy) karrigan - only good when Jks is on the team Jame - T side carried by YEKINDAR entries Hampus - -hampus +jks aleksib - currently being exposed on G2 Nexa - lol

2022-03-19 05:43

3 replies

Love your karrigan analysis ahaha nice

2022-03-19 06:24

delusional aussie as usual lol. With players like s1mple and zywoo on your team why would you not take advantage of that, and to say that dexter is better then any of these players is braindead

2022-03-19 16:16

1 reply

I know UK humour is just a joke, but maybe it has some merit to it

2022-03-19 22:55

Nah, he is just bad. Nothing special about his calling or decisions. Not enough to make up for his horrible aim

2022-03-18 17:00

2022-03-18 17:08

i do watch the matches, and seeing him give away opening frags every single round, trying to entry frag while being -10 and giving away advantageous situations is a pretty reasonable point for a kick + NBK was overperforming and being a great player for MOUZ also - hltv.org/stats/players/9115/dexter?start..

2022-03-18 17:09

Don't get mad at average HLTV users who don't know how to look anything beyond stats. Sure, Dexter might miss here and there, looks might look braindead at times, but he is doing decent If not good job at mouse. Also, Mouz aren't looking terrible under his leadership by any means. Despite hole left by one of best rifler in CS, Dexter has accompanied all players under a system where they're doing good enough and could do even better over time.

2022-03-18 17:10

Shut you're mouth that's the most idiot opinion heard "He is the best IGl" yea best IGL if he played tier 10 Also even if u are a IGL u cant just go 3-25 everygame man can't kill can't IGL in tier 1 He should get kicked and go play for any SA team tier 10

2022-03-18 17:10

4 replies

Dexter hasn't gone 3-25 more than once, so check your facts before spreading misinformation

2022-03-18 17:14

2 replies

He still is really bad. His t side calling still sucks. He can't put up enough numbers to compensate his lack of igling skills. And no matter which sides his mid round calls never changed since the day he joined. No beef on Dexter but this team has exactly 0 experienced veterans and having Dexter is not gonna help with that situation.

2022-03-18 18:02

1 reply

plus the team look more lost than in control. They rely on individuals. His pocket-strats are badly used.

2022-03-18 20:56

Your*

2022-03-18 18:21

you are delusional as fuck, his calls are bad and jsut look at mou retakes or 2v4 3v5 situations which they lost. Im not concerned about his fragging, which he is capable of, but about his igl, which is definitely not the best in the world rn, not even close.

2022-03-18 17:52

1 reply

It's funny how people defend him, he's absolute bot... e.g. if Astralis had Gla1ve with 5 frags every map, we would have never witnessed their era

2022-03-18 18:42

I do watch the matches and I really disagree with you, I still think that dexter and mythR are the reason why ropz left. ropz didnt see the future in this team, because dexter wasnt calling a shit. he had ropz, Frozen, and Bymas, this should have been the trio that will win everything once they finally promote torzsi. They had the pieces, but their system didnt work, and they were clueless what to do. mythR wasnt doing anything, he legit hasnt done anything, he had the pieces but he hasnt done anything with them. And dexter? Thorin for eexample said that dexter was so bad that ropz was even calling in mid rounds. idk if that´s true, but Thorin said that ropz had to call mid rounds

2022-03-18 17:58

3 replies

That fucker Mithr is legit the worst paycheck stealer in the history of csgo.

2022-03-18 18:03

2 replies

Indeed. He had the pieces, but he hasn’t done anything with them. Dexter probably isn’t completely bad, but he had a terrible coach behind him, and so they were clueless what to do if something didn’t work, they had no one to help them, because instead the coach who would have helped them, they have had a paycheck stealer behind them. Now with a good coach they’re looking much better. And imagine how they’d look now if they had ropz. If it wasn’t for this paycheck stealer mithR…

2022-03-18 18:08

1 reply

I also think that mithR has been the biggest issue. Look, dexter (temporarily) abandoned Australia to move to Hamburg amidst a pandemic, which is quite a huge step to take. And then he also came into the EU scene, which is a difference compared to the aussie scene. In times like these you need a reliable coach, staff and even experienced players to get your feet on the ground, but it always felt like he was doing all the stuff alone. I just couldn't see any impact from mithR. Regardless, dexter's gotta deliver now, that's for sure. He had his time to adapt, now also has a decent coach who's obviously helping him and the young lads a lot, so it's do or die now. No more explanations and excuses, MOUZ has to progess in the next 2-3 months and be competitive again. Katowice was decent, but they have to get consistent. Not only dexter, but our boy frozen too.

2022-03-18 18:26

flag... but he is 300iq so ill give a little leeway

2022-03-18 18:26

That's why mouz rarely wins against higher ranked teams. Because he is such a great IGL.

2022-03-18 19:08

Pls stop explaining rationality of Dexter's staying in Mouz to Hltv kids. Dexter as an IGL has been unlucky. He hasn't had a stable team. Moreover, believe it or not, NBK is an old player now. It's always better to invest in young talent

2022-03-18 20:11

Sadge

2022-03-18 16:56

-dexter +NBKing-

2022-03-18 16:56

Justice for NBK

2022-03-18 16:56

very understandable

2022-03-18 16:56

why are they keeping dexter and giving NBK the boot. this reeks of internal issues.

2022-03-18 16:57

14 replies

I couldn't name a better IGL rn

2022-03-18 16:58

13 replies

NBK > dexter

2022-03-18 16:59

5 replies

Dexter_0_bench_nbk_1_bench

2022-03-18 17:01

4 replies

NBK 2 major >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dexter

2022-03-18 17:08

1 reply

#50

2022-03-19 11:20

Zeus 1 major>Botxter 0 major

2022-03-18 17:46

Znajder 1 major> dexter

2022-03-19 10:22

nbk

2022-03-18 16:59

1 reply

He's benched so clearly not

2022-03-18 17:01

they got half of the swap right, +JDC needed to happen, they just needed to -dexter and let NBK IGL

2022-03-18 16:59

2 replies

Clearly if NBK got benched, and no Dexter, it's for a reason (maybe chemistry wise, or outside the server)

2022-03-18 17:02

1 reply

yup, mentioned that in my original comment #10

2022-03-18 18:09

Karrigan, nexa, jt, fallen, apex

2022-03-18 18:14

Karrigan AleksiB Glaive

2022-03-19 00:51

wtf

2022-03-18 16:57

Hahahaha what? NBK face the facts you’re washed up and getting old for CS. Also doesn’t this guy have Aspergers? I could see that being a problem in a team environment

2022-03-18 16:57

5 replies

Name

2022-03-18 17:00

name checks out.

2022-03-18 17:00

Even if someone has Aspergers it doesn't mean that a decision should become so abrupt. Yes there has not been immediate results but Mouz has looked good with him and Bymas now lurking. It was definitely rushed and unfair for him.

2022-03-18 17:02

1 reply

Or maybe JDC was better in training? You want a world where old people never allow you to be promoted?

2022-03-19 01:47

most stupid comment on this thread

2022-03-18 19:02

lost all respect for someone

2022-03-18 16:57

why?

2022-03-18 16:57

1 reply

i mean he had less than a 1.00 rating and someone like jdc is probably better but it is still unfair that he only got like 25 maps to prove himself before he got kicked

2022-03-18 17:26

Dafuq

2022-03-18 16:57

such a dumb move holy shit

2022-03-18 16:57

Unlucky

2022-03-18 16:57

Yeah, shit doesn't make sense.

2022-03-18 16:57

mouz"twofaced"toledo

2022-03-18 16:58

NBK > JDC. JDC is good but nowhere near as important for Mouz as NBK's experience.

2022-03-18 16:58

cry is free

2022-03-18 16:59

Tbh he has a good point, he only played 2 events and wasn't even that bad overall. Definitely does seem quite unfair to only give him 2 events, especially considering the fact that he hadn't played tier 1 CS in a while.

2022-03-18 17:00

2 replies

He has been solid for Mouz

2022-03-18 17:07

2022-03-18 17:08

Even though in terms of fire-power JDC seems a better option, NBK brings the experience and could have called alongside dexter, which is unmatchable. Indeed it feels like a rushed decision after such a short time with that roster but I hope it turns out good for both parties.

2022-03-18 16:59

2 replies

NBK's experience is overrated. Last time he was good was in a completely different meta.

2022-03-18 23:04

1 reply

2022-03-19 01:47

Even if the move turns out to be good the way that they’ve done it was very bad imo

2022-03-18 16:59

Mouz is always same. First Woxic now Nbking

2022-03-18 16:59

Agreed. You don't kick a player after two bad tournaments even more that this MOUZ is new. It's unprofessional

2022-03-18 17:00

I was as much confused and surprised as you when they signed you in first place. NBK is not tier 1 material anymore (hasn't been for the last 3 years), maybe go and help young talents from your country already.

2022-03-18 17:01

2 replies

most of the best teams have an experienced player/coach mouz didn't, that's why signing nbk wasn't a bad move

2022-03-18 17:10

1 reply

NBK hasn't been good for ages. He has more experience being a bad player and difficult to work with (which he has admitted himself),.

2022-03-18 23:27

dexter dodge XD

2022-03-18 17:01

Oh really... Why crying when you toxic

2022-03-18 17:01

mouz 2 team is way better as a whole tbh. pretty understandable that they remove nbk for another piece from mouz nxt

2022-03-18 17:01

rip bozo

2022-03-18 17:01

The organization overreacted.

2022-03-18 17:04

Nbk did nothing wrong! Kinda liked mouz and I still dont understand this change This org is a mess

2022-03-18 17:03

dogster is the problem

2022-03-18 17:03

Can't really blame NBK- for his reaction, 95% of other users literally had the same reaction. Whether the actual reason is out or not, I wish MOUZ the best of luck with the roster change. Best of luck, NBK-. <3

2022-03-18 17:03

I think what it comes down to is torszi’s comfort. He was playing out of his mind when JDC was a stand-in, probably because of the chemistry they have built up through their time in MOUZ NXT. NBK had a few bad maps but nothing that we haven’t seen before. He has a couple different routes he could take, like re-joining OG, pull a daps and create a up-and-coming roster in his region, join an up and coming French roster like Falcons, Ambush or LDLC that could always use his experience, or even take up coaching. The world is his oyster at this point.

2022-03-18 17:04

he's confused how dexter survived until now

2022-03-18 17:04

But why???

2022-03-18 17:05

i think its a mistake, should have benched bymas. dexter could have gotten alot out of it.

2022-03-18 17:06

2 replies

bymas arguably their best player?

2022-03-18 17:47

bench your 1.28 rating in EPL player for sub 1 rating? Dexter gets igl excuse other 3 have more firepower so NBK was the obvious boot choice

2022-03-18 18:13

Ok ok let's go with kennyS and amanek

2022-03-18 17:06

2 replies

french last dance coming soon?

2022-03-18 17:11

1 reply

Amanek did an interview recently when he was talking about the test of youngsters. So why not.

2022-03-21 12:18

Meanwhile I'm still wondering why the hell they signed him in first place aniway

2022-03-18 17:06

1 reply

that's what I thought.

2022-03-18 17:42

Dexter has been poor tactic and firepower wise.

2022-03-18 17:06

5 replies

They won more rounds on T side then they did CT side all of EPL. Dexter is a top 3 IGL

2022-03-18 17:10

4 replies

That's the funniest thing I've read in a while

2022-03-18 17:13

So not top1 anymore, like you stated above?

2022-03-18 17:20

1 reply

Top 3 1. Dexter 2. TabseN 3. Karrigan

2022-03-18 17:20

Flag

2022-03-19 03:32

lost all respect for sycrone. two faced coach

2022-03-18 17:06

if JDC is bringing the good vibrations maybe it will be good, NBK was doing great though, weird..

2022-03-18 17:07

100% right. Mouz are a disgrace.

2022-03-18 17:07

And why not - Dexter and raises the Mouz NXT IGL to the main team?

2022-03-18 17:07

He's had under 1 rating for 25 maps, small sample size sure but do we actually ever intend to see him over 1 long term these days? While it seems alot of the teams he's has joined found success or improved i think mouz are looking for something long term, someone that can play nbks roles but just better. Mouz already has to deal with dexter being under 1 rating, having 2 your never winning unless you have zywoo or s1mple. I think its just doing it now rather than wait for the inevitable to happen.

2022-03-18 17:10

4 replies

they could've just not signed him in the first place then

2022-03-18 21:24

3 replies

I think its just was literally to get an experienced player and hopefully they would be a lot better where NBK has a good track record for new teams but as you know he always gets cut.They look better for sure but not amazing and now they learned from the vet and now they can continue forward. There are a lot of teams out there that have picked up vets in cs history and they did improve however because these vets are statically bad they don't last long and the only way to move forward is with a new player that can push the teams skill ceiling. circle of csgo life tbh

2022-03-19 09:51

2 replies

There's no way they somehow got all of NBK's experience and assimilated it after 11 matches, even if it did work like that it would be a shitty thing to have him only to get some experience or insight from a veteran player and then bench him. Also what other teams are you refering to? Just curious

2022-03-19 17:14

1 reply

wdym he played 25 games and theres practice(game theory) and scrims, honestly if he isnt toxic i dont see any other reason besides being a moody person and wanting someone whos always fun to play with. It's not like they purposely use them for experience and them bench them as their short term plan, nobody is that evil at least i hope. I just woke up and have to go to work so i cant think of many but theres AdreN, he was already falling off but they kept him for a long ass time on VP as they improved right away with him. Then there's Ghost Gaming, steel decided to pick up krystal because he has experience playing against EU teams and wanted to bring in experience to his young team, they improved right away but krystal was dead weight and decided to cut him 1 month later despite him moving to NA already (could be wrong here) but he was also on a loan so that could be another reason but again if he moved to NA they only gave him 1 month but shortly he joined another NA team which was rogue. I'll try to think of others tomorrow.

2022-03-19 23:48

weird decision...

2022-03-18 17:08

JUSTICE FOR NBK

2022-03-18 17:10

and btw, why is HLTV even making a post about a tweet lmao. P.S Experience =/= good igling

2022-03-18 17:11

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yep and now mouz have neither lol

2022-03-18 21:25

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What use is “experience” the map pool has changed like the meta?

2022-03-19 01:53

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Experience isn't about experience on a map or on tactics, having more experience also means that you know how some older pros play better from facing them a thousand times, if you're in a clutch you might've been in that situation many times, you know the pressure of big events, major finals, in front of big crowds, and how to help your younger teammates cope with it. Also probably a better gamesense

2022-03-19 17:09

why not give it some more time? they faced relatively tough teams too, nip, vitality, og, g2, entropiq and wasn't a complete blowout

2022-03-18 17:10

they did him dirty

2022-03-18 17:10

NBKRY NBKUT get rekt son

2022-03-18 17:13

I feel like they should have axed BOTster and have NBOTK IGL, instead.

2022-03-18 17:14

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2022-03-18 17:31

mouz shit org wish them their downfall

2022-03-18 17:14

Was hella solid for his role - can't remember a worse decision recently. JDC is great but needs time on the other hand NBK performed and supported Dexter. Dumb

2022-03-18 17:15

stop crying bot

2022-03-18 17:15

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0/8

2022-03-18 17:17

Yeah welcome to esports PRO scene guys😂 how will people ever take this as a real sport and job if they kick players like they are nothing dude😂 its like if barcelona kicked a player Just randomly cuz they dont like the results😂 fucking parody

2022-03-18 17:16

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a better comparison would be a basketball team trading a player because of bad performance or no fit in the team after a few months, which actually happens quite a lot in nba. not so much in euro bball though.

2022-03-18 19:19

unluko

2022-03-18 17:16

He's right

2022-03-18 17:17

Idk why did they bring him in even in the first place you have a promising academy roster you simply just promote the best ones and you have a great lineup.

2022-03-18 17:18

it makes sense that nbk would probably be replaced by an academy placer some time but still unfair that its only been like 2 months and 25 maps total

2022-03-18 17:24

It definitely looks like a misstep from Mouz, I guess he complained about dexter bs and got the boot.

2022-03-18 17:25

Keep Coping Nathan

2022-03-18 17:27

MOUZ bought retired player instead of getting players from academy in the first place... Sad for NBK.

2022-03-18 17:30

"UNFAIR" LMAO <1.0 kd ok

2022-03-18 17:31

-dexter +siuhy

2022-03-18 17:31

I didn't understand why they got him in the first place - he doesn't bring anything to the team and it is clear that his best days are behind him.

2022-03-18 17:31

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agreed, I also dont understand how people actually think he would be better as igl than dexter lol

2022-03-18 19:17

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The standard "let's cut the guy with the lowest rating" approach.

2022-03-18 19:36

Because mouz look lost, dexter did nothing since the beginning. NBK cannot be worse than that. His t calls are awful, his stats are bad, he looks depressed.

2022-03-18 21:02

imagine NBK just stayed on DBL Poney instead, his own mistake ;'(

2022-03-18 17:31

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Couldn’t cause he was under contract from OG when je played for them. And it was a choice beetwen exercice and NBK, also exercice bring more firepower.

2022-03-18 20:50

there's not "trial" clauses in esport contract? like if you wont fit or dont do a good job, employee or CEO can break contract during a short period when the contract is signed (like two/three month). without fees from both part

2022-03-18 17:33

Xd mouz

2022-03-18 17:34

some orgs seriously needs better management

2022-03-18 17:36

Why not kick dexter and keep nbk? stupid mouz manager

2022-03-18 17:36

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they will lose rmr spot

2022-03-18 17:37

Now you know how ScreaM felt.

2022-03-18 17:37

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Scream was still good when he got f'd over though

2022-03-19 06:30

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Yeah he was pretty cool.

2022-03-27 11:50

sycrone just bring his MOUZ NXT to kick veteran even he doesnt deserv it. i always liked mouz. not anymore.

2022-03-18 17:37

Why dont they bring xertioN to? isnt he igl of nxt?

2022-03-18 17:38

actually first time i feel a bit sad for him - but firstly they shouldnt even pick him up when they take torszi from academy they should also instantly pick jdc too. But yeah know its kinda weird, also I dont saw a problem with NBK at all. The only "Problem" Mouz really has is dexter as IGL, but i think they just need time to get together and it will be a strong lineup with jdc and torszi.

2022-03-18 17:39

he reacted so emotionally . he played so long 2000 over maps. maybe it's done

2022-03-18 17:40

Natural Born Kick

2022-03-18 17:40

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lmao

2022-03-18 17:42

kkkkk

2022-03-18 17:47

Ayoooo lmao

2022-03-18 17:47

KEKW

2022-03-18 23:39

+1 KEK

2022-03-19 22:06

In all seriousness nbk could igl better than Dexter and they could add jdc in Dexter's position instead of NBK's. Also a better fragger

2022-03-18 17:42

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2022-03-18 19:34

gg mouz

2022-03-18 17:42

Maui is a clown

2022-03-18 17:46

Sad!

2022-03-18 17:46

honestly true, like wtf. Like whats the REASON???

2022-03-18 17:48

idk he sucked really much in og and in mouz he really came back and showed a glimmer of what he could do. now this? wth

2022-03-18 17:50

finally mouz can compete add xertion remove bymas or frozen

2022-03-18 17:50

Why not -Dexter??????

2022-03-18 17:51

-apex +nbk

2022-03-18 17:52

Never should have been added to the roster anyway. NBK is terrible and has been for a few years now, he was horrible in OG and showed he can't even be tier 2. He struggles even in faceit pugs. JDC should have always been in the main roster. Now if they don't have improvements soon, -dexter

2022-03-18 17:53

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2022-03-18 19:18

I think someone in mouz dont want to play with him, like elige stew situation xD

2022-03-18 17:56

Now his only hope is like fnatic

2022-03-18 17:57

kennyS AMANEK NBK +who +who

2022-03-18 17:58

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kyojin hadji

2022-03-18 17:59

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never mind i forgot those 2 have team

2022-03-18 18:00

agree,no matter how “bad” he was (even tho he was not) decision is just stupid

2022-03-18 17:59

jdc and nbk was a cool duo. sad to see.

2022-03-18 18:00

Feeling bad for NBK but also beeing happy for JDC

2022-03-18 18:02

"unfair" are u in game leader? no is your rating higher than 1.00? no are u stealing pay checks? yes

2022-03-18 18:02

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IGL is still Dexter.

2022-03-18 18:03

are you a fan of washed AdreN? yes

2022-03-18 18:06

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Shit take. Expected from burger brain tbh 😲☝️

2022-03-18 18:31

I'd rather be fan of legend major MVP than botmanek))))

2022-03-18 21:34

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idk man under 1.0 rating in t2 is worse than under 1.0 in t1

2022-03-19 18:09

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what are u even on about, u are not allowed to be a fan of player who once was very good but naturally got old and worse?

2022-03-19 18:25

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thats fine but ur calling someone whos a support player shit for not getting higher rating than 1.0 and was way more versatile than u think

2022-03-19 19:50

Mouz L team

2022-03-18 18:03

8/8

2022-03-18 18:04

cant win with NBK, good decision :()

2022-03-18 18:06

Mouz did this because they didn`t have to spend one fucking penny to bring NBK to the team (apart from his salary)

2022-03-18 18:07

sad for him mouz was pretty

2022-03-18 18:08

mouz team management is just terrible

2022-03-18 18:09

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So terrible, that they developed Niko, ropz, tabsen...

2022-03-18 18:16

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they don't develop shit as management That's done by individuals like karrigan/gob b/scryone Where their expertise comes in is scouting and that's where they Excell along with great/cost effective lineups

2022-03-18 18:27

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Haha you have no idea about mouz history. Jan Domicous is a legend in Germany as manager

2022-03-18 18:51

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Not sure how a guy that joined mouz after ropz (by 1y and half late 2018) and that wasn´t even part of mouz during tabsen´s and niko´s entire stint has done much to develop them but sure you do you buddy. I´m sure Karrigan/Gob b, some of the all the time best IGLs did way less then Mr Jan. Maybe ask Christian Lenz he might know.

2022-03-18 20:37

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?? the guy was always part of mouz since 2005

2022-03-18 21:56

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Source?

2022-03-18 23:43

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sportsmaniac.de/tag/jan-dominicus Podcast at 6min he talks about. he said he works 15 years for mouz. Mouz wasn't always a full-time job but he was always part of mouz.

2022-03-19 00:10

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Fair enough I'll take the L

2022-03-19 12:57

very smart for keeping dexter

2022-03-18 21:02

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I mean with the lack of IGL options what you can do as an org that can't spend 500k for an IGL

2022-03-18 21:58

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+siuhy ? Honestly, Dexter's call are horrible. Even if +siuhy is a risk, keeping dexter is a huge risk too.

2022-03-19 03:29

Wtf why they kicked him? Wake up you have bymas and dexter in ur team. But maybe it’s good for FaZe they can pick up nbk

2022-03-18 18:11

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Nbk is done. Last option is a full French team

2022-03-18 18:15

why would faze pick him?

2022-03-18 19:40

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Because karrigan so bad

2022-03-18 21:54

He was not playing THAT bad. My issue with this move that in my opinion JDC is overhyped and can bring similar firepower to the team at best. If they would find some killer replacement it would be great move, but this is simply slight upgrade (if any). NBK can still play in some T2/T3 (maybe french?) team for sure.

2022-03-18 18:11

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Jdc is young he has a higher chance to deal with meta changes

2022-03-18 18:15

sycrone tweet nkb he be benched in JANUARY twitter.com/sycronecs/status/14830912241..

2022-03-18 18:13

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lol

2022-03-18 22:01

Cry some where else. You are a snake and you got kicked from your last 3 teams. Obv you are the problem and not the solution.

2022-03-18 18:14

Talk about management red flags, shheeeeeessshhhhh

2022-03-18 18:15

1 word. Internet

2022-03-18 18:15

Signing him was the confusing part. this news is not confusing at all

2022-03-18 18:17

unluko

2022-03-18 18:28

thats unfair #fuckmouz

2022-03-18 18:30

Should kick bot dexter instead

2022-03-18 18:42

expected; washup up big time, sorry

2022-03-18 18:48

the sad thing is that mouz is a budget team that can't afford top players, all the other stuff doesn't make much sense... they can be 4 positions higher or lower, but in general it's not a contender... dex is a bot and jdc is not much better than nbk

2022-03-18 18:49

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JDC is much better than NBK. NBK had a life game or two with MOUZ, but is super washed.

2022-03-18 19:19

Surely this has to do with Dexter?

2022-03-18 18:49

NBCry is back.

2022-03-18 18:56

expected

2022-03-18 18:56

:O good luck Mr NBK

2022-03-18 18:57

welcome to germany, where employees who not perform or bitch around a lot are handed a GTFO faster than you can say blitzkrieg or kindergarten

2022-03-18 19:04

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can i say kinderbueno

2022-03-18 21:46

10/10 expected- nobody want snakes on their homes

2022-03-18 19:08

NBCope is in the building :DD Sucks for nbk but he is washed

2022-03-18 19:10

bad attitude and he deserves for ruining french scene along with happy

2022-03-18 19:13

MOUZ Managers following HLTV Users opinions omegalul

2022-03-18 19:24

Guy needs to calm down and keep his mouth shut

2022-03-18 19:28

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2022-03-18 19:48

since rebranding, mouz is dead.

2022-03-18 19:30

I thought he was performing well. Strange to be honest, but we don't know everything that's going on in the background.

2022-03-18 19:34

This move will destroy mouz definitely

2022-03-18 19:44

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Deserved

2022-03-18 20:09

crying in public, grow up

2022-03-18 20:08

Mouz another scum org or the coach has brain dmg? For me it looks like he's doing his best to bring his buddies into the team.

2022-03-18 20:09

Agreed , now watch mouz tier 3 again

2022-03-18 20:12

F not the problem.

2022-03-18 20:15

I actually loved NBK's performance and role in this team. Very sad to see him go, although I really liked JDC as well. Would've rather seen mouz wait a few months, see how they'll do then and then decide who JDC can replace. I do not think NBK was the right decision. As the secondary IGL assisting dexter and bringing in much needed experience seemed to be a perfect fit for mouz' needs.

2022-03-18 20:17

NBCRY

2022-03-18 20:18

dexter 0 majors, NBK 2 majors. PUT RESPECT ON HIS NAME MOUZ

2022-03-18 20:19

how is it unfair? NBK is garbage

2022-03-18 20:25

the lineup with npk and without bymas did work pretty well, they lost a few series but some very close and there was balance, i would have given it a try, you could switch back bymas if it doesnt work. but to do this after 2 month with good overall performance from nbk as vet. with alot dexter can learn is a waste.

2022-03-18 20:25

Fkn stupid

2022-03-18 21:01

well, kinda true recently he looked decent for once

2022-03-18 21:21

Damn mouz did dirty on this one

2022-03-18 21:49

nbotk 🤢🤢

2022-03-18 21:55

When will they realise Dexter has been the problem all along? They could have just removed him and gotten the IGL of the academy team, and kept NBK a bit longer until they can see his performance under a better IGL, though he didn't even seem to be playing badly.

2022-03-18 22:34

nbk should go to heet and destroy mouz

2022-03-18 22:42

not fair for nbk!

2022-03-18 23:27

I never thought NBK was a good pick up but they didnt allow enough time to even see. Judging from NBK tweet, this is definitely sycrone and nbk not getting along or clashing in some sort of way. Lots of people shitting on dexter but id still rather have an igl that can improve his calling and keep the firepower then NBk who could IGL but is known to have problems with his attitude (due to his diagnoses). JDC is a good pick but this team does lack EXP. Frozen is 19 with the most exp. he is the new ropz. If NBK was an issue internally I would have liked to see someone with more exp come in instead of JDC.... who? Good question lol maybe someone like Gade or even a Zehn from EX-FPX

2022-03-18 23:34

Get jks in there asap!!

2022-03-19 00:00

We all know the correct move would be -dexter +JDC and not -NBK- +JDC.

2022-03-19 00:11

-Dexter +NBK , simple as that

2022-03-19 00:52

damnnn hltvers really showing their newfa*ness in this thread it isn't that deep guys People have been having problems with NBK, the person, not the player since the dawn of time ;)

2022-03-19 01:57

embarrassing roster move

2022-03-19 01:58

They probably just try different methods before replacing dexter, +jks would have been good to see how the 2 Australians can play together,but still, JDC is a good replacement for a washed player that can't frag anymore, the bad move was that they bring him in on the first place. Good move bad way to do it

2022-03-19 03:33

Mouz having worse management than fnatic

2022-03-19 03:33

Totally

2022-03-19 04:15

It is MOUZ so you should expect this. Random people leaving or coming.

2022-03-19 04:37

Take the hint, ur washed.

2022-03-19 05:00

i don't understand, he was playing so well??

2022-03-19 05:11

the shoe is on the other foot now

2022-03-19 07:38

mouzs managment always in WutFace mode kick players every month not only in CS division in every games where mozu have rosters they can't wait for team chemistry and waiting tournaments wins since 1-2 big LAN.. where is logic

2022-03-19 08:01

Poor NBK... joined mouz on the wrong moment, it never made any sense

2022-03-19 08:56

clown org with clown logo

2022-03-19 10:34

nbk wasn't playing bad but it was mistake to put in mouz

2022-03-19 11:25

nbkry

2022-03-19 11:59

bruh they need someone with experience you can't build a team with people that will just rush b

2022-03-19 12:14

Unlucky(

2022-03-19 12:21

For how long he signed the contract?

2022-03-19 12:28

MOUZ should have just kept Frozen and Bymas then added the Mouz NXT core with siuhy, JDC, and Torzsi THE BEST POSSIBLE MOUZ ROSTER WOULD HAVE SIUHY IGLING

2022-03-19 14:10

Fuck mouz, please go bankrupt and fold instantly, disrespectful pieces of shit.

2022-03-19 14:58

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cry is free

2022-03-19 15:51

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I don't see the relevance of your post.

2022-03-19 16:14

Hey hltv, don't delete comments without explanation, especially as someone had already replied to it. There was no breach of the forum rules from my side. I was expressing my opinion, which I will repeat now Nbk is old, toxic and although probably still hungry, jdc is better going forward. Took 55 mins for cry post on hltv about benching Amazing that a moderator felt it necessary to police the opinions posted here as they contradict the article which intends to frame this as nbk as the victim and mouz the evil wrongdoers Is this really hltv now, suppressing free speech?

2022-03-19 15:29

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It has been like this for a very long time. Hltv is heavily moderated.

2022-03-19 16:16

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At least I'm not the only one. Very strange considering how many other similar opinions have been voiced but their comments not deleted

2022-03-22 09:00

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They are way quicker to delete controversial posts, than posts of personal attacks. I don't have the slightest respect for the true policies of these forums.

2022-03-22 14:33

Should Bench dexter and NBK should take the IGL Position

2022-03-19 17:22

Why would even mouz get him in the first place. He below average pro player for a bit now. He legit doesn’t bring anything to the team apart from probably being toxic 🤣 It says on his page he a riffler(support) like wtf man why would anyone want a riffler that’s gonna be bottom fraggin as ur support when nowadays u can get a guy that will play support and also won’t have a problem with being consistent when it comes to fraggin. And personally I think he is a pretty poor IGL comparing to the one we got on the top stage rn.

2022-03-20 07:51

MOUZ lack experience man and NBK was meant to be their guy

2022-03-20 09:45

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Nah not really. Today's cs shows that you don't need experience as much as you need an ability to pop heads , multi frag , win opening duels (Monesy ,Bit and Yekindar are great examples of players without any experience but they got all of the skills I listed which makes them way more valuable to a csgo roster than nbk)etc. NBK isn't good at any of these. Saying mouz lacks experience isn't exactly true , most of their roster were active players in 2018+ so maybe they need experience in a way to be comfortable on the big stage (still don't see how nbk would help with that) because clrealy they got experience playing the game.

2022-03-20 17:54