EliGE: "I think oSee is going to be the best North American AWPer we've ever seen"

We caught up with the North American rifler after Liquid's first day of play in Romania to hear about his team's progress in and out of the RMR.

Liquid kicked off their Americas RMR run with an unexpected 8-16 defeat on Dust2 at the hands of Marcelo "⁠coldzera⁠" David's 00NATION that put the North American squad out of contention for the sole Legends spot up for grabs, and is now contested among the 2-0 teams: FURIA, Complexity, Imperial and MIBR.

Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski and company then bounced back against TeamOne in their second best-of-one of the opening match day at the tournament in Bucharest, advancing to the 1-1 pool with an overwhelming 16-3 scoreline on Inferno that saw both EliGE and Josh "⁠oSee⁠" Ohm post 2+ ratings.

EliGE expects Liquid to close out their Americas RMR run with a 3-1 record

The 24-year-old talked about several subjects concerning Liquid, including the team's opening blunder to 00NATION and the ensuing victory over TeamOne, their busy schedule and possible form heading into the Major, as well as Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon's influence on the team and oSee's developing potential, which he thinks could end up in the AWPer becoming the best ever in his region.

You were the highest-rated team here along with FURIA, the story lines all pointed to you and them fighting for the Legends spot. Were there any psychological ramifications in regards to that, seeing how the first match against 00Nation went?

I don't think it had any effect on us, we came into this preparing like we would any other match. We did the prep for 00Nation, but the thing that kind of sucked against them is that we chose to be 'Team B.' so we decided to choose map side and we prepared for Overpass and Ancient, but it went to Dust2.

We were OK leaving it in, obviously, since we can ban three maps and we thought we'd be more comfortable on the CT side, but when we started the game off we were just really, really flat. We kind of knew what we should be doing, but we didn't have the best Dust2 that we've played, so it was maybe a bit of a veto error. I don't think we would have lost if it went to Inferno, instead. Unlucky, but it is what it is. I don't think we came into the RMR doing anything different than we were last time.

So the veto caught you off guard? Or what was it that caught you off guard once you were in the map that allowed them to get ahead 11-0?

The veto caught us a bit off guard, but we came off a bit flat. I don't think we were in a bad mindset or anything like that, we were just letting them do whatever they wanted to during the whole map instead of disrupting them enough. We lost to some pops on both sides of the map and I don't think we adjusted well enough, fast enough, during the game to be able to counter that. It's just a combination of not having a good Dust2 — we came into the match a bit flat and got caught off guard.

What do you mean when you say flat?

I guess I would say the communication being a bit flat, and the flow of ideas and being able to pick up on those ideas quick enough.

I spoke to coldzera and he said you guys appeared a bit tired after flying from Pro League and playing more while they had time to prepare. Do you think that played into this at all?

I think it definitely did. It's part of what I said before about us feeling flat. It's the three things I said before and also the travel fatigue. It is very difficult, usually around the three to four week mark is when people start getting fatigued from being away for so long and competing this whole entire time. It really is kind of mentally taxing to be 100% ready for every single tournament back-to-back and it definitely is a factor. But we can definitely show better than that and we should have won that match if we would have played our game.

Looking ahead, it's far out and you may not have thought about it, but we're in the waiting room of the Major and now you have to fly back to North America and then back to Europe for the Major. Do you think you'll be able to get there in a moment of peak performance?

We have thought about it and we were talking about it. It really sucks, there's not really that much downtime whatsoever, we're pretty much going to have to go home and shox is going to actually be on the road the whole time. He has to come to North America for the IEM Dallas qualifier, the BLAST Showdown, and then as soon as that's done we're going straight into a bootcamp for the Major because we just have like seven or eight days leading up to the Major since we lost our chance at making Legends, which sucks because that would have helped a lot for our travel schedule.

Delving back into your first day here in Bucharest, you bounced back well against TeamOne. How did you rally to win your second game convincingly?

It was a really frustrating loss for everyone, nobody is going to be happy with that. Everyone is going to be mad, sad, frustrated, every negative emotion pretty much. So after that we had a couple of hours waiting for our match-ups and we ended up being the third round. Nick [nitr0] and I went to the gym, other people did whatever they wanted to recoup and get back into it mentally and before the match we took some time to talk about what went wrong, what we want to avoid, how we want to fix it.

We didn't really go into the nitty gritty of specifics and details of the match because it's more about the mentality and how we want to approach the game instead. We had a similar talk after Katowice and it helped us a lot, just getting into how we want to approach the game, how we want to play the rounds out, what we want our solutions to be, and that's what has helped us the most — also mentally.

We saw some glimpses at Pro League of what you're capable of, but you're not quite there, either. What's going on in the team, what are you working through and figuring out?

We have gotten to a pretty good level for how long we've been a team and I think that in the last two months we've made great strides until after Katowice about how we want to play as a team and react to different situations. Most teams have their own style, so we were figuring out what our style is and how we want to approach the game to get on the same page collectively. I think that shox helped us a lot during that period of time in NA to help us all get on the same level, but in terms of our downfalls right now I do think we're pretty close.

We obviously had a very sucky loss today, and I still think it'll take us two to three months, maybe four, I don't know, but I think we're close. It's just the inexperience and the pressure in some of these games, we need need to find our footing in the pressured games. We've talked about a lot of things and how we want to react to them, but we haven't had enough reps.

When there's a lot of pressure in a game, fundamentals are what show and at the end of the day — whatever you've practiced the most, whatever you're most used to — we just haven't had enough reps on a lot of these answers that we have so there are natural mistakes that happen. I do think they'll get cleared up the longer we play together, but I do think that we have been playing overall pretty well and it's just a matter of time.

One of the newer pieces in the puzzle is oSee, who has a lot of fanfare in North America. What do you see in him and what do you think his progression is, how far can he go?

I do see him progressing really fast since he joined the team, he's an extremely hard worker, he communicates well, and he has a really methodical approach to the way he wants to approach different rounds and situations. I kind of compare him to device regarding how he wants to play the game, the play style he wants.

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I think he's going to be the best North American AWPer we've ever seen, it's just a matter of time for him to get used to it, get comfortable and have the fundamentals down pat so he doesn't even have to think about it and can just go on to the next one. I see that happening pretty quickly, within like six months I expect him to be a top tier AWPer just because of how hard of a worker he is. He's going to do really great.

Tying in what you were talking about fundamentals and getting more reps, how has your T-side evolved with shox and the knowledge he brings to the team. How has he merged with the previous knowledge in the team?

He has done a really good job at getting us all on the same page as I was saying before, so we've been able to identify how we want to play certain rounds. So if we're playing against an AWPer, when the AWPer dies, exactly what our reactions are going to be. We've taken things from Vitality and what they thought was good, we've identified some stuff from the CIS teams and we're kind of understanding how they play in the rounds, their slow creep style.

We're taking the best of both worlds, what we're seeing and how we're able to apply it, I think it has been pretty good so far. He has helped me a lot to simplify the game because last year I was overthinking a little bit too much as the game advanced more and he's been able to simplify it more in my head — identifying simple solutions and making them clearer, which has been giving me a lot more confidence.

Just to round the interview out, you're in the 1-1 pool now after the first day. What are the general thoughts ahead of your upcoming match?

This match [against TeamOne] has definitely helped a lot. Not even just because of the scoreline or anything like that, but just our talk from before and the way that we were feeling in the game. It felt like we were back on track and playing the we we should be, the way we know we can be playing compared to the first game. We're very confident, there's not really as much pressure anymore since we lost the chance for the Legends spot.

The whole goal right now is just to qualify and we're all very confident that we can qualify. We know how good we can play, how good we are, and I expect to see us close it out 3-1. The pressure is alleviated, now we just have to play our game.

Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1400
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.62
United States Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Josh 'oSee' Ohm
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1055
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.62
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1568
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1987
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
NA awper lol
2022-04-12 02:38
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7 replies
#31
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United States DarkFX
Osee > Simple
2022-04-12 02:52
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5 replies
well when NA's best awper is skadoodle (no disrespect, a very solid awper at times) you can ofc become best NA awper especially when the next so called talent is called junior
2022-04-12 03:13
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3 replies
Jdm
2022-04-12 04:40
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#79
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World BadToWorse
True
2022-04-12 07:23
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#121
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Finland oshin
+1
2022-04-12 12:27
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Well said
2022-04-12 07:36
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oSee >> s0mple
2022-04-12 14:34
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#2
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France Ansi
he already is
2022-04-12 02:39
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25 replies
#5
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United States jaank
+1
2022-04-12 02:40
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Skadoodle >>>>>>>>
2022-04-12 02:40
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17 replies
#14
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France Ansi
Ska "IBuyPower" Doodle ?? whahaha!
2022-04-12 02:42
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16 replies
#47
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Philippines Fiorno
but ska didn't even accept the skins
2022-04-12 03:40
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13 replies
#58
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Egypt BomberMan_
He committed the crime but its fine.
2022-04-12 05:15
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12 replies
#69
Faceit level 10  | 
Skadoodle | 
Europe SiKw0w
so you commit a crime by looking at it?
2022-04-12 06:39
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11 replies
#70
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Egypt BomberMan_
idk what you mean, but he did throw with all the other guys. Only reason he didnt get banned is because he refused the skins.
2022-04-12 06:54
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#72
Faceit level 10  | 
Skadoodle | 
Europe SiKw0w
So your point is he's guilty for being honest or refusing a bribe?
2022-04-12 06:57
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#74
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Egypt BomberMan_
being honest and refusing a bribe? If he was being honest he wouldnt have participated in the first place.
2022-04-12 07:07
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8 replies
#78
Faceit level 10  | 
Skadoodle | 
Europe SiKw0w
You are fucking delusional
2022-04-12 07:13
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5 replies
#91
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia BCP
only reason he didnt accept the skins was because by the time his share was ready, they were already exposed for the throw. he just got lucky the full investigation took ages because they needed proof that they got the skins, but the initial callout was way earlier
2022-04-12 08:33
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4 replies
yep, crazy how many idiots think that he didnt know anything what was going on xD
2022-04-12 08:53
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#115
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Norway TritoNOF
That statement has already been debunked by Dazed, Ska didnt want anything to do with it from the beginning
2022-04-12 11:39
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#116
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland Karppanator
..but he still played while knowing that his team would throw.
2022-04-12 11:45
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#117
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Turkey orionski
>debunked by Dazed lol
2022-04-12 11:50
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#87
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Finland Dentrowl
I think that Valve knew what they were doing, Ska was innocent and that's it.
2022-04-12 08:13
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😂 Valve dont give a shit man. They banned only based on if they accepted skins and it was only like 5 french guys and those ibp players they ever banned for match fixing and betting on pro play. you have guys from VP (I think it was TAZ) who bet on pro games (it was a pre-recorded game, but still on csgolounge) and they get away with it. There is 100x worse stuff that happened with t1 pros in the past and now we have organized crime in china and other places fixing games. Valve are incompetent at best
2022-04-12 10:27
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lol , ska even doesnt know i buy power dirties move.
2022-04-12 04:22
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Skaddady
2022-04-12 18:42
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#16
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United States ilkym00th
skadoodle happened
2022-04-12 02:43
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#17
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France Ansi
2022-04-12 02:43
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#22
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Romania DDSkidrow
nt jdm was better
2022-04-12 02:44
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2 replies
+1
2022-04-12 03:01
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We \_ ounging.
2022-04-12 03:03
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#45
Faceit level 8  | 
flusha | 
United Kingdom fal36
+1
2022-04-12 03:29
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#3
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Brazil Elakk
lmao
2022-04-12 02:39
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I believe in Elige Good luck osee
2022-04-12 02:40
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Go! Osee! Korean pride
2022-04-12 02:40
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#9
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States erokmofo
NA has only had one semi good AWPer so the bar isn't that high (not that I think osee will surpass skadaddy)
2022-04-12 02:40
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Minus: " - Never talk to me again, Jonathan"
2022-04-12 02:41
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better than JDM64 lounge legend? no
2022-04-12 02:41
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Skadoodle was being talked as one of the best awpers in the world at one point. oSee is like t3 EU no shot oSee is the best NA awper ever seen
2022-04-12 02:45
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#15
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Canada JC_123
1/8
2022-04-12 02:43
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#18
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North America minte
i've read this post 4 times and i still don't know what you're trying to say
2022-04-12 02:43
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3 replies
im saying skadoodle > oSee
2022-04-12 02:44
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#23
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North America minte
So far yeah i agree but i think osee has a pretty good shot of dethroning him if he continues to elevate
2022-04-12 02:45
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I edited my orignal comment to hopefully be more coherent. personally i think someone will dethrone him but i dont see it being oSee. maybe im delusional
2022-04-12 02:46
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#29
EliGE | 
United States cmohr
osee had a 1.17 rating at pro league and you think he's t3 eu?
2022-04-12 02:51
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1 reply
nah just exaggerating that part
2022-04-12 02:54
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1.17 rating at EPL = t3 EU lmfao okay bud I get you're a Cloud9 fan but why are you shit talking oSee lol
2022-04-12 02:53
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5 replies
I actually like oSee i was just exaggerating for effect
2022-04-12 02:55
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You become a t1 player by consistency. Not by having a 1.17 rating tournament once in a while.
2022-04-12 06:24
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3 replies
He was smurfing in t2 EU even when he was on Extra salt. he's definitely t1.
2022-04-12 06:36
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2 replies
Theres been plenty of talent that "smurfed" t2 and when put against proper t1 players they hade decent results and then dropped off. Way too early to call someone t1.
2022-04-12 06:54
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#111
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia frogskate
you said once in a while as if he has stats like that
2022-04-12 11:17
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everything checks out
2022-04-12 05:34
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Skadoodle at peak form is tier 2 EU lol
2022-04-12 05:50
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#90
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Finland Dentrowl
So tier 2 EU player could get 1.15 rating from major while also winning the finals with 1.29 rating and +24 k-d diff?
2022-04-12 08:24
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3 replies
Fluke
2022-04-12 11:11
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really wasn't consistent even if he had a insane tourney overall he was average for an awper.
2022-04-12 19:20
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#150
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Finland Dentrowl
I would say that he was slighly above average awper, but his peak definetly was not t2 eu.
2022-04-12 22:09
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"Is going to be" learn to read.
2022-04-12 11:58
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#13
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Uzbekistan iDead_asdd
the only awper of na, well of course it's going to be the best ever
2022-04-12 02:42
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2 replies
#142
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Hungary Axelboi
The disrespect to Ska
2022-04-12 16:59
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1 reply
I am talking about the current awpers
2022-04-13 05:14
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lmao
2022-04-12 02:44
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#21
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North America minte
literally only competition is skadoodle so yea probably, skadoodle goated tho
2022-04-12 02:44
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laughs in skadoodle
2022-04-12 02:45
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2 replies
Skadoodle is goated but I think oSee's ceiling is higher, did you see the shots he was hitting against TeamOne today? Imagine oSee in his prime on LAN
2022-04-12 02:52
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1 reply
+1
2022-04-12 04:59
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the best awper that NA ever produce on csgo was skadoodle, i dont se oSee coming close to what skadoodle accomplish
2022-04-12 02:46
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#27
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France marponche
Junior exists
2022-04-12 02:49
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#28
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Brazil TiagoQc
even junior os better... and junior is garbonzo bro
2022-04-12 02:51
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5 replies
Flag checks out
2022-04-12 05:36
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4 replies
#127
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Brazil gu1zera
Your life checks out
2022-04-12 13:31
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3 replies
Flag checks out
2022-04-12 16:17
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2 replies
#154
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Brazil gu1zera
world war checks out
2022-04-16 21:50
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1 reply
Lul yeknom checks out
2022-04-17 15:03
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#33
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Somalia goner
oSee goat
2022-04-12 02:53
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_/dm goat
2022-04-12 02:57
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1 reply
the lounging G
2022-04-12 03:05
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#39
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United States gweees
Hes good but Skadoodle exists
2022-04-12 03:03
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skadoodle > jdm > osee
2022-04-12 03:28
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#44
Faceit level 8  | 
flusha | 
United Kingdom fal36
already is
2022-04-12 03:29
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not hard to be better than literally no one KEKW
2022-04-12 03:33
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+1
2022-04-12 04:03
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#50
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Bosnia and Herzegovina sqmke
>NA >good AWP Pick one
2022-04-12 04:03
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1 reply
#53
Faceit level 9  | 
Palestine Zoincc
+1
2022-04-12 04:30
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he is korean
2022-04-12 04:13
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The most impressive thing to me in this article is that Elige is only 24 years old kkkkkkkk he’s been around for so long now. But the awper thing is totally possible, NA hadn’t great awpers in their history so the bar is set low, with all due respect to skadoodle of course
2022-04-12 04:34
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2 replies
He's lost too much hair for a 24 year old, unfortunately
2022-04-12 07:38
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1 reply
hairloss from playing with stewie for 2 years
2022-04-12 14:40
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cap
2022-04-12 04:53
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#60
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Poland csRIOTgo
oSee the Asian device. sk0r the Asian S1mple. BnTeT the Asian Karrigan. Future Asian super team. Heck yeah...
2022-04-12 05:19
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3 replies
Autimatic the asian rpk
2022-04-12 05:38
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Stewie2k?
2022-04-12 07:38
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1 reply
no spot for toxic kid
2022-04-12 11:20
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#64
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark Danny D3
All oSee has really needed for a long time was experience at the top. He's been their biggest talent for quite a long time at this point.. he pretty much proved that in Extra Salt imo. It's also quite nice to hear that he's a hard worker. They need more of that in the NA scene overall, since the grind is harder than ever. It could be a bit of a resurgence for Liquid with an improved amount of motivation that they've needed.
2022-04-12 05:48
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#66
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United States cybonics
Salt. Air. Liquid. Toxicity. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the Overtime happened. Only the S1mple, master of all four tilts, could stop them. But when his team needed him most, he choked. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Tilter, a chairbender named JDM, and although his tilting skills are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe JDM can save NA.
2022-04-12 06:04
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1 reply
lol
2022-04-12 08:37
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#73
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
DickStacy | 
Europe ThePianist
they cant even beat T5 00nation OMEGALUL
2022-04-12 07:07
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SupremoSee ;)
2022-04-12 07:08
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He shoudlve said that to my boi stew :(
2022-04-12 07:10
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Nt, junior bestest
2022-04-12 07:24
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dont think he will surpass skadoodle. ska won a major and was top 5 awpers at his peak
2022-04-12 07:25
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Skadoodle is the NA goat and aside from a good major final performance and I don't think he set the bar very high
2022-04-12 07:47
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#125
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Brazil gu1zera
+1
2022-04-12 13:12
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Well, there aren't many NA awpers left now soo I believe him
2022-04-12 08:21
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Koosta, Easy
2022-04-12 08:23
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monkahmm
2022-04-12 09:05
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#95
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Pakistan yuhflowyuh
pressure is alleviated after winning one match... wow
2022-04-12 09:07
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nice jinxed elige.
2022-04-12 09:16
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#98
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Scotland Ludax
Things were flat - Elige 2022
2022-04-12 09:18
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jdm64 and Skadoodle better for me so far, we'll see tho
2022-04-12 09:44
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#100
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Kazakhstan nugop
SKADOODLE not agree with botlige
2022-04-12 09:55
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#101
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Kazakhstan nugop
-> Osee try hard against tier 5 BR team and gets 2.06 k/d -> Elige = I think osee best NA sniper LUL
2022-04-12 09:57
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1 reply
#102
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Kazakhstan nugop
1.02 HLTV rating against teams like PA, botsent etc And only 3-4 times they have played against EU tier 1 teams Let’s wait major or blast and we will see real Botsee
2022-04-12 09:59
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#103
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Sweden dogtown
sorry but fRoD is forever the GOAT awper of USA. Have you ever seen his POV vs 4Kings? Best POV in the history of CS.
2022-04-12 10:08
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#107
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Murdy | 
Sweden Murdy
f0rest vs SK on nuke #1
2022-04-12 10:41
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+1
2022-04-13 18:58
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#104
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Hungary Kenuass
Skadoodle > oSee
2022-04-12 10:18
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1 reply
#124
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Brazil gu1zera
+1 even jdm
2022-04-12 13:11
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#106
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Murdy | 
Sweden Murdy
fRoD is clearly the best AWPer NA has ever produced.
2022-04-12 10:38
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1 reply
haven’t heard that name in years
2022-04-12 11:01
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That's a low bar tho.
2022-04-12 11:09
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He already is
2022-04-12 11:18
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>Best NA Awper >Good CS Achievement Pick One.
2022-04-12 12:08
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#120
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Finland dvlx
but when will he perform in tier 1 ?
2022-04-12 12:14
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Guy clearly never heard of Fr0d
2022-04-12 12:57
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1 reply
#128
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Brazil flytw4tp
Isn't fr0d from CS 1.6? I'm pretty sure ELIGE is pointing out about CSGO
2022-04-12 13:31
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#123
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Brazil gu1zera
Funny guy
2022-04-12 13:10
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Not going to surpass froD
2022-04-12 13:15
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#129
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Brazil Anarchybr
Every Elige’s interview he’s complaining about “how hard is to travel and play abroad” and bla bla bla. What a whiner. Brazilians have to LIVE in the EU/NA, don’t even have the chance to come home more than twice a year and you don’t see them crying about it all the time.
2022-04-12 13:50
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liquid lived in eu for a while tbf
2022-04-12 14:40
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#130
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Brazil amark
Frod is a joke for u?
2022-04-12 14:09
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in csgo yea i dont see anyone surpassing frod or shaguar considering their legacies osee is very good tho
2022-04-12 14:39
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#137
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Vietnam El0nMusk
I want to clarify his statement: sh1ro>monesy>zywoo>s1mple>osee>rest of NA awper
2022-04-12 16:16
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#141
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w0nderful | 
Canada sightx
he literally says best NA awper are you retarded? obviously these players are better
2022-04-12 16:45
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I think its possible but skadoodle holds that crown pretty tight
2022-04-12 16:31
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#140
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Finland TriangleHead9x
can't see
2022-04-12 16:34
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i mean the best awper NA has ever produce are Skadoodle and in his playing day ska are good but not that impressive so Osee definetely had a shot to surpass him.
2022-04-12 18:52
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8/8 godsee
2022-04-12 20:31
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#149
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United States illusi0n[1g]
Lol oSee blows
2022-04-12 21:32
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#151
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china | 
Brazil ginga do maroto
you need a personality to be a godlevel awper, and I don't see one shining through oSee.
2022-04-12 22:35
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