Community reacts: NAVI goes international

1-7-2023 15:22

Natus Vincere formally announced their new-look European roster, providing yet another exciting and unexpected roster change to an already wild offseason.

On Friday, Natus Vincere put an end to the speculation and officially confirmed their departure from the CIS region as they unveiled their new European roster, led by Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen. The lineup also welcomes Mihai "⁠iM⁠" Ivan from GamerLegion and Justinas "⁠jL⁠" Lekavicius from Apeks, both of whom made a name for themselves during the Paris Major.

Official: NAVI announce international roster

Natus Vincere made a bold move similar to that of Liquid by overhauling their roster as they kept only Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev and Valeriy "⁠b1t⁠" Vakhovskiy. This marked a significant shift for the Ukrainian organization, as they not only revamped their lineup but also departed from their traditional brand identity and regional association.

s1mple and b1t are the only players remaining after the rebuild

The announcement generated a varied response, encompassing a blend of enthusiasm, doubt, and overall bewilderment regarding the mere existence of this roster. Anyone who had envisioned such a lineup before the player break would have likely been dismissed as mad.

Many formed their expectations primarily around their opinions of Aleksib, who finds himself leading his fourth European roster. His previous three ended unceremoniously, so it remains to be seen if NAVI has the composition of players he needs to return to his ENCE glory days. Other opinions were overwhelmingly positive, putting Natus Vincere as one of the winners of the off-season.

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Amidst opinions ranging from confusion to complete disbelief, there emerged a prevailing sentiment that this new roster raises more questions than any other, leaving many in a state of uncertain expectations.

There has also been quite a bit of negative sentiment towards the composition of players. Pessimistic voices have emphasized that the team's ultimate fate will be determined by Aleksib's calling, casting doubt on the team's overall potential and generating a sense of skepticism.

Following their community-stirring announcement, Natus Vincere embraced the attention and indulged in a few playful Twitter posts.

i didnt react

2023-07-01 15:23

4 replies

idc just show official c9 roster

2023-07-01 18:39

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That is a possible Nr 1 team

2023-07-01 19:43

2023-07-03 12:39

me too. i was waiting for myself to react

2023-07-02 10:31

GOD ALEKSIB

2023-07-01 15:24

Pimp is not part of our community

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And triplus is?? lol

2023-07-01 15:30

2023-07-01 15:33

He's more a part of the community than you or me.

2023-07-01 15:34

yeah he is part of the circle Jerking community with all the Danes

2023-07-01 16:04

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danes dont even like him

2023-07-01 22:31

Wtf, we definitely do. People from the Faroe Islands tho? ..... not as much

2023-07-02 21:31

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from what i see a lot of the deep community make fun of him, even the situation with wunderbai where he lost a community game and went into pms and trash talked like a baby

2023-07-03 00:22

2023-07-01 15:38

im not too much into it but, why so much hate against this dude?

2023-07-01 15:43

well known griefer

2023-07-01 15:45

2023-07-01 15:51

Pimp is closer to our community than most other talents. Like it or not.

2023-07-01 16:11

wdym??

2023-07-01 16:13

2023-07-01 17:10

LOL

2023-07-01 17:11

2023-07-01 17:34

0/8

2023-07-01 19:52

2023-07-01 21:40

pimp actually posts here from time to time. He called me out a while ago & since then I don't talk bad about him anymore since he's a real person with a reputation etc. on the line & I'm not a public person & hiding behind an hltv account. It's unfair to trash talk him.

2023-07-01 22:48

Account?

2023-07-02 05:28

KURKKU MENTIONED

2023-07-01 15:25

11 replies

Why did they put that guy on hltv lmao

2023-07-01 15:27

5 replies

ikr

2023-07-01 15:32

Omg I’m your biggest fan 😍

2023-07-01 16:05

real real

2023-07-01 16:17

Holy shit it's cucumber

2023-07-01 16:39

holy shit its Zuriiiii

2023-07-01 22:54

GOAT

HOLY CUCUMBER

2023-07-01 15:29

I WAS HERE

NO WAY

LETSGO KURKKU

2023-07-01 18:47

POLOOLPP THE GOAT

2023-07-01 15:26

midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky midky

botkey

weirdkey

2023-07-01 16:02

-botky +simples

2023-07-02 10:02

ALEKSIB

i can understand aleksib drama, but not other 2(IM JL). look at it this way noone knew much about perfecto before he joined navi and people laughed the same way when he was picked up! Same with boobmla a year later, 1 major fluke run in qbf and he wasnt even the star of that team...

I cared more about jL before the major than after, he was really underwhelming

2023-07-01 16:03

i agree, but maybe it was an off tournament? im pretty sure he did good in the rmrs with it being lan and all

2023-07-01 16:25

Yes let's hope, even if it was just the pressure he'll get used to it hopefully

2023-07-01 16:30

yup

2023-07-01 17:08

whoever somehow keeps Aleksib's resume going and expanding deserves a massive raise lmao.

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I've never seen someone more consistently fall upwards lol

2023-07-01 15:44

Yeah, it's unbelievable this keeps happening over and over and over again. How do they all trust him when he hasn't won sh*t in ages?

2023-07-01 15:55

aleksib is close behind Biden and stairs i would say!

Not really. Just ppl that actually know cs knows he's good.

2023-07-01 15:47

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You cant really know how good one igl is if you are not playing on his team. So the only thing as a spectator you can look is his achievements and there hasnt been lot going on lately.

2023-07-01 15:50

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we shall see

2023-07-01 16:01

Well no. You can easily make assesments of it watching a team play given you have actual cs knowledge and ability to understand context. Obviously not 100% correct but in the ballpark.

2023-07-01 16:14

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Isnt good gameplay kinda simalar to winning? And aleksi hasnt won anything for years soo clearly not top 5 atm

2023-07-01 20:50

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You're forgetting the context. That would apply if he was playing in faze or something. NiP is absolute dogshit lineup and hampus will confirm that for you unless they make other changes.

2023-07-01 21:07

So you're assuming his failed leadership would succeed in lineups like faze just beause of.....??? reasons??? He failed with G2, he failed with NIP you got an excuse lined up for when he fails with navi as well or?

2023-07-01 23:44

+1 if he really was out ot ordenary igl he could have made g2 work.

2023-07-02 02:07

Because its a lineup that makes sense. He didnt fail with NiP. They were stronger than ever with the initial lineup he signed for. Even tho the lineup even then was far from optimal with rez awping. Then hampus got ill and left and everything went to shit by shit management. G2 just wasnt good fit mostly due to xtqzzz who isnt there anymore after which they started improving. Let me remind you G2 was worse with hooxi even with jks instead of boTz all the way until xtqzzz was gone. The problem there was he didnt have the power to play his way and everyone with a brain knows compromises dont work, you need commitment.

2023-07-02 09:52

I agree with #175. Aleksi is not bad igl im not saying that. Team wise he clearly needs team that play slow and smart cs and i think navi is best change for that so he might even win some tournaments now. Nip and g2 were clearly wrong fit for him leading wise, and idk what he was thinking when he joined them

2023-07-02 02:10

There was no problem with NiP when he joined them, the problem occurred when hampus got ill and left and management made incredibly shit decisions.

2023-07-02 09:55

Yeah aleksiB is getting his raise don't worry.

2023-07-01 22:51

Community? I don't know any of these people, where HLTV users?

As desperate as liquid

Cucumber my goat <3

:) <3

2023-07-01 15:37

cringe

2023-07-01 15:28

tldr its a good move and HLTV threads are wrong once again

Cucumber mentioned 🤯

wtf!!

2023-07-01 15:42

WTF kuukämper

Insane

Who is cucumber?

2023-07-01 16:40

Triplus made a good point about g2.

bro

HLTV calling it 'community reacts', but (as usual) leaves us out of it :(((((((( you could make some prediction / confidence polls to engage a bit more, you know.

Cucumber and poloolpp??

2023-07-01 16:07

You mean reactions from HLTV forum? Who can follow all that insanity?

2023-07-01 16:31

just look outside my dude. pretty sure HLTV insanity is pretty much on par with the current riots, the unnecessary war in ukr, biden crime family, covidception, 6th january coup, and the list goes on.

2023-07-01 16:36

that aleksibased guy speaking facts

I already putted my NAVI flag on!

*flair

Aleksib GOAT gonna shut up the haters like the editor of this post. They didn't give any sources of 'community reacts' making this post useless.

2023-07-01 15:36

Do you not see the embedded tweets or?

2023-07-01 16:00

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No sry..?

2023-07-01 16:09

Well this is how the article should look, if you can't see the embeds try deleting cookies and reaccepting on prompt prnt.sc/2dK_xYK8E3eN

2023-07-01 16:10

The web version of Twitter no longer allows non-users to see embeds anymore. Anyone that isn't a twitter user will have a tough time reading the article.

2023-07-01 16:15

I saw the embeds prof I just wanted to bait you

2023-07-01 18:31

twitter in shambles, non-users can't see sh#t, users getting rate-limited please screenshots all the tweets!

2023-07-01 19:23

Sorry bro... don't use twitter and therefore haven't seen it... some sources would be nice to back up all the doubt and hate on Aleksib... There are a lot of questions regarding so many teams and players so why single out Navi and Aleksib?

2023-07-01 16:20

Because this is such a massive change for an organisation like navi. Also the fact that Aleksib gets so many chances but doesn't seem to achieve much

2023-07-02 05:57

No reason to single em out still this early and also post an article expecting your readers to be reading other sources from other websites to back up your claim. Amateur and unprofessional biased journalism. Just feels bad, I'm not gonna lie for Aleksib and Navi, and leaves a bad taste in ur mouth. Just feels biased af

2023-07-02 08:56

He's a complete trash

2023-07-01 16:27

The only thing trash here is your English... go to school kiddo and get a proper education.

Savage AF, lol!

2023-07-01 18:30

Mom, he's talking about my Aleksib 😭😭

2023-07-04 02:38

Another typical HLTV user from Brazil making 0 IQ comments. You guys always make sure to keep the average IQ of Brazilian HLTV users sub-par...

2023-07-05 10:04

2023-07-07 03:05

aleksib is a smart choice he's a very cerebral player he's going to dab on the haters

2023-07-01 15:39

Definite a hype move. :D

no way they used Poloolpp's tweet

2023-07-01 15:46

hes him

-electronic is surely the worst change they could do

That wasn't a NaVis choice, but Elecs

2023-07-01 21:59

ok if then

2023-07-03 09:25

Rumors say he would have gone

2023-07-02 05:32

Best and last change for aleksib before eg. Navi is known for slow and tactical cs so aleksib might actually fit this team calling wise.

2023-07-01 15:52

well if s1mple and aleksib hit it off, I foresee greatness if they start fighting, and someone like iM or jLegend joins the fighting, then they'll do worse than nip did

2023-07-01 15:59

hello aleksi -haters, grow up. He's still a human and loves to play CSGO, come an y'all did it? It's a huge change but stop hate.

2023-07-01 16:35

Also, history shows that s1mple hit his peak performances only under dedicated IGLs. And now that he has got one(AleksiB) to work with, I'm down for a s1mple comeback.

One mistake and s1mple will bust his head

Too much valid pressure on Aleksi, but he needs to not feel pressured, ignore it and fully concentrate on what to do with the pieces. The most important thing would be finding ground with s1mple and his vision/attitude and better be on the same page. If Aleksi and s1mple end up on the same page, the rest will be easier, but not easy. gl.

Kinda expected when he does well at Ence then gets picked by a new cs division of the OG, then suddenly gets the top opportunity at g2 with peak Niko and then recently it's the NIP with a high skill-ceiling and now past-prime navi

2023-07-01 16:33

Cucumberous mentioned, thanks hltv

2023-07-01 16:06

thanks hltv

2023-07-01 16:26

In aleksi we trust

2023-07-01 16:12

gl to s1mple

poloolp lmao

This is why you must say no to drugs... Those "experts" show they have absolutely no understanding of the competitive scene at all.

2023-07-01 16:18

pimp with great take as always

2023-07-01 16:23

Now the real pimple comes out

So where is the european flag then?

2023-07-01 16:28

They have Poland flag for OG in hltv.org/news/36560/groups-announced-for.. It's still there, I thought it would have been changed.

it's intentional for articles, so that when you go read something from 2014 and an article mentioned the polish virtue pro, it has a polish flag and not a Russian one. But navi has a Ukrainian flag in their team page, despite being european

2023-07-01 16:44

the team can chosse any flag they want, just because their team members are 3/6 from EU, doesn't mean they will automatically get EU flag

2023-07-03 18:09

Aleksib is -1, Navi will play 6x4

But s1mple is +2

2023-07-02 05:31

Not this year unfortunately

2023-07-04 02:42

Once again Maniac proving his Highest IQ at the desk

2023-07-01 16:29

Orgs are investing into what makes sense. International rosters is the future with certain regions/countries just kind of dead rn. Let’s see how this new look does.

So many bad reactions.

2023-07-01 16:56

I can see this team failing to qualify for the 1st CS2 Major

2023-07-01 17:00

I can see this Navi failing to qualify even for the pineapple cup.

2023-07-01 17:20

username checks out

2023-07-03 18:10

wtff....am I the only one who thinks aleksib's playstyle won't suit s1mple

2023-07-01 17:29

Navi has played structrured CS for a while now, even so that "navi strats" meme is based on their highly execution based style. That's also why they've fallen from #1 spot, highly reactive CS seems to be the meta atm.

2023-07-01 17:53

so two players from tier2 who had one good tournament aleksib who did not prove anything, and b1t and s1mple who is not playing as good as year ago, and twitter experts are exciting for this rooster, well i guess im clueless, or they are just twofaced

2023-07-01 17:32

s1mple and iM is the only good thing about this team and we dont even know what level iM will have

2023-07-01 17:44

Navi going to tier 2 HLTV CONFIRMED

2023-07-01 18:04

s1mple once said no international roster will ever be able to win a major (just before FaZe won their major), let's see how his words turn out now.

2023-07-01 18:34

im had good run on major, i dont expect from him that he will be good enough.

The guy was GL's main driving force even before the major. He just had an insane level at the major but he was normally a big factor in GL upsetting so many teams before then

2023-07-02 11:45

As a Na'Vi fan, I don't know - I have mixed emotions about this new roster. Aleksib has faltered so many times with the previous rosters, I just hope he and Blad3 can make things work. But, I'll keep on supporting them and give the international roster a chance - if it doesn't pan out, guess there is always time left before the first CS2 major to salvage something moving forward. What hurts the most is not seeing electronic and s1mple together anymore and I personally hope that one day, they can reunite once more, even if it isn't under Na'Vi's banner as they are a deadly combo (with electronic not as IGL).

2023-07-01 18:42

headtrick said navi to pick aleksib0b xd

2023-07-01 19:14

- JL in 4 weeks incoming

2023-07-01 19:38

Is b1t actually speaks good enough English?

2023-07-01 19:44

Might be a honeymoon period till simple learns to bully non cis players.

2023-07-01 20:39

lmao

2023-07-02 14:23

ALEKSIGOD

2023-07-01 20:46

EDP LOL. I see him on tosh.o on Pluto tv all the time

2023-07-01 21:41

the shilling is at an all-time high

2023-07-01 22:20

next step c9 sing s1mple b1t Booml4 and blade

2023-07-01 22:58

Aleksi has literally not won anything for 4 years, yet he keeps getting better and better job opportunities, I really don't understand anymore

2023-07-01 23:58

+1 It's like in politics

2023-07-02 05:30

2023-07-02 18:28

Aleksib is no more perfect than any of us, but only Ruggah seems to have had trust in him, and OG did well. I don't doubt Aleksib is a good IGL. But the prospect of him and Blade working together for a common goal makes me hyped. I look fwd to Na'vi victories, and Aleksi not joining HLTV confirmed - my working hypotheses why the site spins it like this.

2023-07-02 01:13