B1ad3: "donk has a great future, but I think he needs to fix his behavior"

B1ad3 discusses frustrations with NAVI's "basic mistakes," loss to Spirit, donk's potential and shouting antics, and w0nderful's improvement.

NAVI have gotten off to a shaky start at IEM Katowice but have lived through the second day of the group stage.

The opening game had the team around Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy fall on the receiving end of Danil "⁠donk⁠" Kryshkovets and Dmitry "⁠sh1ro⁠" Sokolov's wrath, before they came back on day two with a hard-fought win over Apeks that had the NAVI coach frustrated with "basic mistakes."

Date Matches
IEM Katowice 2024
03/02/2024
Finished
1:2
Match
04/02/2024
Finished
2:1
Match

HLTV spoke with B1ad3 on the second day of the group stage to ask about those frustrations, NAVI's issues with individual form at the Katowice tournament, and Ihor "⁠w0nderful⁠" Zhdanov's development.

The 37-year-old shared why he thought a poor individual game cost them the match against Spirit, and he gave his opinion on donk's strengths and potential as well as his controversial shouting antics.

You can watch the full interview above or read the transcript below:

B1ad3, congratulations on outliving Apeks...

raises hands in celebration

... now you seem happy, but you looked pretty frustrated during that game at times, especially towards the end of the second map. Can you tell me about what happened there?

I think I was pretty frustrated during the whole match but with moments. Sometimes you do some strange and stupid thing, not something I expect to see and I'm pretty sure players also don't expect to see this. And it's just really frustrating, yeah. It's just mistakes, you know? On Anubis we were hurrying up where we could freeze for a little bit, if we have a smoke in our face, and not hurry up because people have an advantage... Basic things. We are not doing steps properly for advantageous situations.

Why do you think these mistakes were being made?

I think we never stop doing the mistakes. We're constantly doing reviews of every match, if we win or lose, doesn't matter. We always have mistakes. Always there. I think we're just day by day, step by step, trying to fix it, but for sure it takes time. The more officials we have the more knowledge we get, the more experience, the more conclusions we will have.

At this event I think we're also a little bit bad individually. The games that we were winning before we were on point in terms of individual performance for sure. That's also maybe the reason why we're not playing so good.

I wanted to ask about that, as well. We saw b1t in good form since the beginning of this lineup, and iM has been picking it up as well, but in Katowice so far that hasn't been the case. They had a rough start against Spirit and also on the first map here. What do you think that is down to?

It's a very interesting question. If I knew, I would know everything. I couldn't understand a lot of players. Imagine, sometimes we saw s1mple not playing well, right? And whenever we have a team talk, nobody can say why. It's all about how your brain works this day. Imagine you play bad, now you're overthinking, like, 'what happened?' It's always a unique situation for everyone I think. It's all about handling it, understanding it by yourself, scanning yourself to learn to have this knowledge. If somebody else tells you what went wrong with you, it's weird. I cannot get in his head.

Tell me about yesterday. Spirit had the upper hand on the two maps you lost.

I think individually we played really bad. Individually they were out-aiming us a lot of times in advantageous situations for us, in situations where we usually are making good trades and so on. I don't know why, I didn't see the POV of everyone because we needed to prepare this match, but if I review I will see what happened.

I think on Ancient one time we lost a molly, donk killed... Basically, yesterday, I think everything started from Ancient. I think that we lost so badly on Ancient affected us. We didn't have a lot of time to prepare for Mirage, we basically played our game. On Ancient I think we had a really good game plan on CT, and then the first two buy rounds we didn't stick to it. We already spoke about this, that it's very important because in MR12 it's very crucial to start really sharp, with good ideas in the first buy round, second buy round, to dictate the pace.

B1ad3 isn't impressed with donk's screaming

There's a lot of attention on donk and a lot of people were looking at this game specifically because it was considered his first big test on LAN against a top-five team. He's obviously an aggressive player, the one dictating the pace. How do you deal with him and how come it didn't work?

I think he's individually really good, mechanically speaking he's good. Not in terms of experience for sure, like decision-making. I think he's doing aggressive plays, impulsive decisions, and it works for him in CS2 really well because you can swing and always have an advantage, you're running and people are supporting you from behind, or somebody is running in front of you sometimes. That's for sure his main strength. He's running and aiming really, really sharp. I don't think it's hard to counter him. I think if he faces a really strong team who challenge him aim-wise, in that case the other guy with experience have more effective decision-making.

He has a great future, but I think the only thing he needs is to fix his behavior. Sometimes he's screaming really bad words at this age, and it's weird, very sad that nobody around can help him, to have good advice to say to him. They even praise him for doing this is, this is weird for me. I would really like to advise him not to be that kind of aggressive, screaming. It's different. When apEX is screaming, it's a different thing. He's screaming bad words and you see he means this, actually. It's a dangerous road, I think.

Apart from that series, though, you have been looking up as a team. Apart from this one, you've only lost two series to Vitality since the World Final. Do you feel like there has been a turning point for NAVI in these last few tournaments and that your form has improved?

We were planning to find really good form at the Major specifically, if we get there. In March we will have one more bootcamp, the third one with this lineup as far as I know, and in that case we will be much, much stronger. It's a really hard project for me because it is international and everyone is with a completely different background, completely different, and it's hard to implement a system like this.

We're trying, you see it works for some games, for some not, but it takes time for sure. When you go on the server and there are stressful situations, unknown for everyone in the team, you must react really fast, but it's impossible to react with effective synergy on the server. And we have the same issue now. Sometimes we're disconnected a little bit. It goes by analysis, conclusion, fixing mistakes.

I wanted to ask about an update on w0nderful. You can see that he has these peaks, we saw it on the first map against Apeks for example. How has he developed in the past few months?

I like it. I like it a lot, actually. I like how he's improving. I remember when he came and what knowledge he had, and I think he's understanding a lot of what we're trying to teach him. The dynamic is really, really good, but he still has a lack of experience and, because of this, decision-making sometimes. With this dynamic, he can be a really great player.

Russia Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.22
Maps played:
1092
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.54
Ukraine Ihor 'w0nderful' Zhdanov
Ihor 'w0nderful' Zhdanov
Age:
19
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
442
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.58
Russia Danil 'donk' Kryshkovets
Danil 'donk' Kryshkovets
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.19
Maps played:
371
KPR:
0.83
DPR:
0.67
#1
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North America minte
b1ad3 he's 17 not 12 i think its ok if he swears
2024-02-04 23:13
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#60
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United States R700
Professional etiquette is different than saying "fuck" in a conversation.
2024-02-04 23:43
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4 replies
mad bc bad. dude covered s0mples toxicity up for years and now this lol
2024-02-07 02:21
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3 replies
The entire CS scene is full of emotionless Europeans, finally someone is talking shit, makes for good content.
2024-02-08 00:04
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just watched the full interview and blade doesnt sound as bad as hltvs title sells
2024-02-08 00:27
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1 reply
+1
2024-02-08 17:20
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I think B1ad3 should focus on doing his job better instead of crying about some teenager having fun at his first big LAN.
2024-02-04 23:59
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Flag…….. and flair…… he behaves like average toxic ruski kid in premier from enemy team who keeps messaging in all chat after every won round. But I guess you are very likely the same otherwise I see no sane reason you would be defending this kind of behavior.
2024-02-05 05:08
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Of course there is nothing wrong when 30 y.o. guy like apex screams shit and behave like a fucking monkey, but when 17 y.o. donk does the same "it's different". :D It's a part of the game, although I personally think it shouldn't be a part of the game, but you can't do anything about it, so we have what we have. And perhaps B1ad3 feels a guilt for doing nothing about s1mple's behavior towards teammates or maybe even a guilt for his own behavior during his CS 1.6 career. Yeah, he himself was far from "saint" there, that's why I said he better focus on his own team rather than trying to "teach" players from other teams.
2024-02-05 07:19
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13 replies
Lolol sometimes I forget about Blade's "old cs 1.6 life", thanks for reminding me, golden moments
2024-02-05 08:56
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#362
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
Exactly what i was thinking. He is 17, and B1ade wants him to act like 30 years old grown man.
2024-02-05 10:17
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adult man over 35.
2024-02-06 21:06
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Wait they ask him what he thinks about him, he replies and now he is teaching others? Also just because you did something wrong at some point, doesnt mean you cannot learn/change your opinion. As Blade said its different with Apex. He doesnt mean it, its banter. But with Donk its not.
2024-02-05 11:48
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I thought they asked what he thinks about donk as a player in the first place. > Also just because you did something wrong at some point, doesnt mean you cannot learn/change your opinion. Perhaps we should apply the same logic to donk as well, huh? ESL warned him, his coach told him to not use insults, his teammate(s) told him to calm down a bit. Donk said ok. I think he can draw a deduction and already did it.
2024-02-05 12:21
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#512
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kinkybdsm | 
Germany lMAG0
Such a good and differentiated answer.
2024-02-06 20:02
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have you ever seen Apex yelling "cocksuckers/assholes" to his opponents? no right. he does trash talking, there is a difference. but he's just a 17 yo immature russian at the top of all so his career is already dead if he keeps on acting like this.
2024-02-07 12:17
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1 reply
have you seen donk yelling "cocksuckers/assholes" to his opponents? post some clips.
2024-02-07 12:18
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I am not sure - what exactly are you referring to here "a guilt for his own behavior during his CS 1.6 career"? I played against Blade for years, he was always quiet and respectful person. The only thing that stood out was his confidence in his abilities, but that was well justified. Do you have anything specific about his behavior in 1.6 career?
2024-02-08 17:23
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Yes, it's personal. He was playing for A-gaming and his ego was hurt by losing to "some noname team" at ASUS. He was so offended so months later, at next tournament, did some things he wouldn't be proud to talk about. He got his "revenge", but that situation told me a lot about his personality.
2024-02-08 19:40
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Whatever that is, I am sure each of us had some things we are not too proud of. With Blade, that was like 15+ years ago, so he definitely changed as a person, can see things from a different perspective and is absolutely in his right to share his opinion when been asked. Like if I think of myself, me being 36 years old would be happy to go to 18 years old me and tell myself some things. Similarly, Blade would probably be happy to do the same. Why wouldn't it be a good idea to suggest something to a 17 y.o. Donk who may be a better person after those suggestions?
2024-02-08 20:53
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He was asked about donk as a player in the first place, not about his behavior. If he actually wanted to give donk an advice he could do it in private conversation with him or his teammates/coach/manager.
2024-02-08 21:14
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#546
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Sweden Hermanino
No one asked for your kind in this game though so why don't u go and play crossfire with the chinese instead?
2024-02-22 13:56
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#340
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Europe yommamas
What's wrong with trashtalking? Also what's your opinion on when Apex or Cadian does this?
2024-02-05 09:33
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I think that apex is a clown who gets carried by zywoo big time and really should not open his mouth to much. Cadian is imo just super hyper competitive and get carried away at times, but when it gets to far like against Mongolz at last year’s Katowice where he called them “f*cking noobs” after 1vX clutch I critized him just as much. Also I don’t remember Heroic or Vitality getting fined by ESL mid event because of their player swearing to much. youtube.com/watch?v=4QuM7ODi71w&t=1496s&..
2024-02-05 14:32
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+1 we need mm and faceit without russians too
2024-02-09 03:19
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They asked for his opinion on donk, you dumbass...
2024-02-05 08:21
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yet Jimmy, Zywoo, m0nesy and many other talented guys at this age were much more cultured
2024-02-05 00:07
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5 replies
#177
Faceit level 10  | 
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World OughtToChange
monesy even said that what donk doing is totaly ok and not toxic, blade just old and salty, that's all. he had simple in his team who was toxic to his own team which is 1000 time worse
2024-02-05 00:47
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that is not worse, wtf... you can call your friend cocksucker and you might both laugh about that, but try calling cocksuckers people who you barely know or dont know at all and see what happens. also theres a difference between calling your teammates out on teamspeak and shouting obscenities out on stream, just a bit more and he might have violated TOS. admins have already warned the whole team, potentially even fining them, which doesnt add any karma to the guy. that also just confirms m0nesy is way more mature by not throwing donk under a bus even if he couldve easily done it
2024-02-05 02:45
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#368
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
I bet sdy agrees XD
2024-02-05 10:23
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#429
Faceit level 10  | 
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World OughtToChange
lol. yeah, check any vod, navi didn't laught at simple toxic behavior even one time. donk didn't say cocksucker to anyone. admins warned in advanced, cuz donk was too loud, but it had nothing to do with examples that hally gave to donk, cuz donk didn't say any of this.
2024-02-05 11:57
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+1
2024-02-09 03:20
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random hltv user thinks he knows better than dude in cs pro scene since 1.6 mkaiii
2024-02-05 00:31
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5 replies
#178
Faceit level 10  | 
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World OughtToChange
blade just old
2024-02-05 00:48
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1 reply
Blade is wise
2024-02-05 07:08
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#193
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North America minte
2024-02-05 00:55
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#345
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Europe yommamas
let's look at this 1.6 days then, I am sure we will see some masterful gamepla- oh no, what do we have here
2024-02-05 09:37
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True
2024-02-09 03:20
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no it's not
2024-02-05 10:39
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+1
2024-02-07 11:12
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TOXIC LOL
2024-02-04 23:11
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3 replies
toxic imo would be bad behavior after bad results like a certain AWPer and former top player... donk just goofs around after good results
2024-02-05 00:25
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2 replies
still rent free
2024-02-05 10:59
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#456
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Czech Republic IvanXx
well he isnt long enough in the scene, for people like u to find a bad stuff about him, keep mocking one of the goats while your favorite org can win only cct tourney
2024-02-05 14:07
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#3
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden 1nc0g
just jealous i think
2024-02-04 23:11
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16 replies
ikr, and thats like the first good cis talent that wasnt scouted by blad3 himself
2024-02-04 23:15
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15 replies
I think m0nesy was not either. Ami was the coach of nv jr
2024-02-04 23:24
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2 replies
i mean monesy was already pretty popular as a young streamer before that
2024-02-04 23:37
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yeah, but afair m0nesy was already quite big on social media (yt/twitch) before he joined navi academy
2024-02-04 23:38
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#37
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden 1nc0g
blad sad caus he had no career, coach position makes him think too highly of himself
2024-02-04 23:34
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2024-02-04 23:39
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#125
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Sweden 1nc0g
attending majors doesn't equal being relevant in majors blad3 has no credibility, participating in the group stage of a few majors doesnt make you knowledgeable in any way, shape or form and flipsid3 never was relevant
2024-02-05 00:16
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8 replies
stopped reading at "blad3 has no credibility" if blade has no credibility then who tf are you lol and why are you even speaking of him?
2024-02-05 00:23
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#142
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden 1nc0g
lmao since when does being carried and still not being close to winning anything equal credibility? u know urself that blad3 aint relevant. worldedit was flipsid3, not blad3
2024-02-05 00:32
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I'm not talking about his player career - he had shit mechanics and everyone knows about it. He already proved he's one of the best coaches and scouts, highly regarded by the greatest players out there, so keep it low and have some respect
2024-02-05 00:38
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2024-02-05 00:47
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#348
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Europe yommamas
What kind of argument is this??? "Oh, the Omelette is burnt???? Are you a master chef to say something like this???????"
2024-02-05 09:40
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yeah donk and spirit have so much crebility compared to blad3. Like wtf, did he win a major as a coach ?
2024-02-05 00:35
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you just said he had no career. i told you he attended 8 majors. thats definitely a career.
2024-02-05 00:45
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flipside was relevant and fun to watch
2024-02-05 07:20
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#83
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
MATYS | 
United States LongDong
bad bait
2024-02-04 23:52
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#4
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Luxembourg 2000
It's crazy this is the same guy who coached s1mple not sure if i take anything this guy says seriously.
2024-02-04 23:15
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+1
2024-02-05 00:06
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+1
2024-02-05 00:34
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Maybe he's talking from that exact experience, you know?
2024-02-05 00:50
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2 replies
#241
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North America hi_mens))
That would require actually thinking, these people just want to have their kneejerk emotional reaction because they have the same sensibilities as teenage girls
2024-02-05 03:33
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1 reply
#350
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Europe yommamas
I hope Blade sees this bro
2024-02-05 09:41
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And who says he approves of what s1mple was doing. I have seen B1ad3 trying to talk reason and calm down s1mple mid match multiple times, you could see that especially after lost first maps when studio gives us few shot of s1mple standing up and walking to his team mates trashtalking. He was the best player at the time, he had to deal with him and his massive ego somehow, if someone stood up against s1mple and his toxicity, they would get kicked. Perhaps since donk is not on his team B1ad3 can express himself more publicly
2024-02-05 05:16
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s1mple wasn't kicked he left
2024-02-05 12:52
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#300
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Ukraine ksay
yeah, it's crazy that the same guy who kicked s1mple from flipside for bad behaviour would advice donk not to go the same path
2024-02-05 07:43
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I wonder if this old bum ever said that to S1mple.
2024-02-04 23:14
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9 replies
Never. You can check flipside 2014 teamspeak with s1mple tiltimg and swearing after each mistake.
2024-02-04 23:23
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#104
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Hungary colbyak
B1ad3 "Two faced" Toledo
2024-02-05 00:02
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#135
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
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Finland Electricplug
But does s1mple scream like donk does towards the other team?
2024-02-05 00:21
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#160
Faceit level 10  | 
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Latvia MikeOHearnNo1
screaming at teammates is worse than at enemy.
2024-02-05 00:40
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He insults his own teammates, that's why he's on therapy right now
2024-02-05 00:41
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3 replies
Lmao
2024-02-05 05:16
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he doesnt you tool
2024-02-05 10:41
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1 reply
Looks like you need to go therapy with him)))
2024-02-05 12:02
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S1mple barely in his career scream to enemies. If he has something to say then to his m8 and that is something different.
2024-02-05 07:10
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#7
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Russia Delicadeza
cry + lose more hair with t2 bot mix roster,, donk owns u bald3
2024-02-04 23:14
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donk isn't screaming to "impress" the opponents at this point, he is genuinely enjoying the games.
2024-02-04 23:15
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3 replies
#157
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden skorpan
This !
2024-02-05 00:38
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youtu.be/4QuM7ODi71w?si=nyV0ZVwNoZXNZlOl.. enjoying it so much, that Spirit gets fined for his lovely behaviour, just because you are good, it doesn’t give you right to be as*hole
2024-02-05 05:29
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#367
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Europe yommamas
appeal to authority cope
2024-02-05 10:23
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lol, donked
2024-02-04 23:15
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B1ad3 is just mad. Take the L and move on, no need to rage on a 17 year old kid.
2024-02-04 23:16
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1 reply
2024-02-05 05:29
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#14
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Interesting interview.
2024-02-04 23:16
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#15
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Australia phloxio
Chill out old man He’s 17
2024-02-04 23:17
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Just like he fixed s1mple's behaviour right?
2024-02-04 23:18
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6 replies
#153
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine zheka67797
yes. S1mple`s career is exactly what blad3 meant. S1mple lost first years of his career because he was avoided by most teams for his known toxic behaviour, despite being insanely good at the game. Although he stayed pretty emotional, he did not insult his opponents during official games since he joined Navi. S1mple is known for criticizing his own teammates, not for insulting other teams.
2024-02-05 00:37
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#234
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India Rau7n
Tf you mean lol, insulting your own teammates is like 100 times worse than insulting opponents
2024-02-05 03:12
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he never insulted own teammates you donkey
2024-02-05 10:50
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#450
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Latvia elansz
"you donkey", hes talking about s1mple and hes right, he absolutely insulted his own teammates during FlipSide times. youtube.com/watch?v=CVYVIrZ8zlQ&ab_chann..
2024-02-05 12:58
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Yeah and even still I would argue you wont be a teams 1st choice if you have to be warned about your behaviour during your first lan as a player
2024-02-05 12:10
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#369
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Europe yommamas
Yeah, he did the absolutely better thing: insulting your own teammates The flag is really showing here
2024-02-05 10:24
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#18
Faceit level 6  | 
NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
+1 donk should learn a bit about attitude from s1mple
2024-02-04 23:18
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1 reply
Good joke. :D
2024-02-05 00:04
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#19
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France GoIMP
Thats why m0nesy > donk Appeared in tier 1 the same age as donk, always chill and never cussed anyone
2024-02-04 23:18
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6 replies
#35
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Lithuania M0rkiz
+1 m0nesy was a similar age, but acted way more mature. I guess the people surrounding them make a big difference, because of their young age.
2024-02-04 23:30
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#49
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France GoIMP
At first i thought m0nesy would be a typical toxic kiddo from faceit pugs on LAN but i was amazed how chill he was for a 16yo. Good parental education ig Reminder that i dont dislike donk, i think it's fine for him to hype his mates up and be the extrovert of the team but cussing other people aint it.
2024-02-04 23:40
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2 replies
NiKo did a good job raising him
2024-02-05 09:06
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Since this is donk's first tier 1 lan event I'd give him a pass now, as maybe he doesnt understand yet how to control his feelings from faceit pugs and online games to real life . Im expecting the management team around him to help him develop in next events tho
2024-02-05 11:43
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#272
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
Just two different personalities.
2024-02-05 06:05
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+1 monesy can be cocky at times, but it's in good faith meanwhile donk is just cringe and the typical aggro mm kid when he is winning
2024-02-05 10:50
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#21
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United States Virgin Islands donkgod
Bro who coached s1mple talking about behavior XD
2024-02-04 23:19
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8 replies
+1 lmao
2024-02-04 23:24
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/open XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD /close
2024-02-05 00:03
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+1 this dude is a fucking joke lmao, getting mad over a kid who curb stomped his entire fraud of a team. yet did nothing for s1mple, grown ass manchild still toxic after all these years.
2024-02-05 00:13
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Don’t remember s1mple hurling insults at other team, don’t see where you’e getting at
2024-02-05 00:57
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#375
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Europe yommamas
Yeah, he did the better thing: insult his own teammates, creating the most hostile work environment ever Navi fans are actually delusional
2024-02-05 10:28
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he never insulted his own teammates you donkey
2024-02-05 10:51
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1 reply
#402
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Europe yommamas
>Navi fans actually believe this oh wait, didn't notice your username, good bait, made me reply
2024-02-05 10:53
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#235
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India Rau7n
So true lol, they can only open their mouth when they see someone weaker than them, pathetic
2024-02-05 03:14
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#22
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Europe alkahzane
I see that the burger king guy on the airplane has new competition
2024-02-04 23:20
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look all these mad kids lmao
2024-02-04 23:21
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3 replies
this :D
2024-02-04 23:47
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the one crying is blade
2024-02-05 00:52
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#377
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Europe yommamas
Blade is too old to be called a kid tbh
2024-02-05 10:29
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TImes have changed... Today everyone is taking Donks side and saying that its okay to scream and insult your oppornents. Back in the days when JW screamed against NIP ge got permanently hated on HLTV.
2024-02-04 23:22
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#46
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Lithuania M0rkiz
I dont like donk, but jw was a another low. After their first win against NiP back in 2013, get_right went over to shake hands, as normally players do, and jw just laughed in his face. Apologising on stream didnt help either, after you show your real side.
2024-02-04 23:38
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1 reply
+1 completely forgot about refused hand shake and laughing in face from losing get_right in first major final, JW was indeed low as it gets at the time and I say this as huge fnatic fan who were my main team I cheered for 2014-2017
2024-02-05 05:36
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#74
Faceit level 10  | 
spardaus | 
Lithuania Woozylul
Lots of stupid people here on hltv riding donks hype thinking he will win everything when he still has a lot to learn.
2024-02-04 23:48
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1 reply
+1 will be so funny to see when teams get their hardcounter vs him and Valve fixes peeker's advantage
2024-02-05 10:52
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#274
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
Not really, during 1.6 era everyone was even worse and nobody was making a big deal out of it. Taz and his cmon swedes etc. Its been always a trashtalk game, most important to not make a death threats after a game like some people did XD.
2024-02-05 06:07
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1 reply
+1 IMHO he was just salty after lose during that interview - 1.6 and internet at that time was very, very different world and no one would ever consider something like this toxic back then.
2024-02-09 13:41
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Blad3 got donked
2024-02-04 23:23
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#29
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Palestine d1zzy_b
I think blade is right about donk's attitude.
2024-02-04 23:24
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2 replies
He is, the boy seems a bit unhinged honestly, he needs to chill a bit.
2024-02-04 23:35
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1 reply
#149
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Palestine d1zzy_b
His tag is 666... So that's a probability. Great player, a 17yo xantares but he needs some proper counselling... Remember oBo?
2024-02-05 00:32
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#33
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
jealous much
2024-02-04 23:28
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3 replies
youtu.be/4QuM7ODi71w?si=nyV0ZVwNoZXNZlOl.. Ye jealous of being so toxic, you are literally getting fined by ESL for your behaviour lmao
2024-02-05 05:39
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2 replies
#381
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Europe yommamas
omg, TO said it's bad, therefore it's bad Please ESL notice me
2024-02-05 10:39
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1 reply
will be funny to see when Spirit gets disqualified for unsportsmanship or something xd
2024-02-05 10:53
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Bl4de has a point what goes to behaviour. Toxicity is dangerous thing you know. There might be orgs that avoid having players that are toxic. Degster's behaviour end up to being benched and being outcast just like Smooya. Afterall ukranians understand like 80-90% of Russian language. Like Bl4de said donk has great machanical skills but his decision making isn't the best always.
2024-02-04 23:34
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#101
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Portugal ReyZ555
+1 i really dont understand how ppl supports so much toxicity, especially from their favorite players. i mean, everyday ppl complain how game communities are toxic and shitty and how that ruins the games and the pleasure to play but at the same time they are so happy to see their favorite player trash talking and insulting the other team/players. i think that's something that even the TO should put some rules on because one thing is celebrating the round or cheer a teammate, other thing is trashtalking/insulting/taunting the other team.
2024-02-05 00:01
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#116
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Netherlands CcARTii
they literally have the teams sit opposed of eachother with tempered glass opening up between rounds, but they don't want the teams to actually talk trash? it's not even actual toxicity, its just having lan fun. most of y'all have never been to lan and it shows.
2024-02-05 00:10
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#134
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Portugal ReyZ555
blade literally said that donk said bad things. i dont understand russian but an ukrainian guy understands and i believe in him, i dont think he would lie just to donk look bad or something. having the teams sitting opposite doesnt necessary means a scream battle between rounds. and yes, i've been in lans, even before internet being something common in homes :)
2024-02-05 00:20
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they literally got fined / warned by ESL, because this toxic kid was screaming "lay down (and get fucked)", "dickhead", "cocksucker", etc etc
2024-02-05 10:55
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#382
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Europe yommamas
Trashtalking shouldn't be fined, if they didn't want that to happen, as others have already said, they wouldn't be playing in front of each other
2024-02-05 10:40
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Whether or not other players do it too is irrelevant - it's just toxic behavior and should be frowned upon across the board.
2024-02-04 23:36
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#47
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Sweden Vrede
still some point there, its ok to scream but too much can it be cringe :/ cus ppl just blaming for it
2024-02-04 23:38
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Noob gets Donked and is crying kekw. Still loves simple even though hes the most toxic player in the scene
2024-02-04 23:39
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1 reply
#68
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Lithuania M0rkiz
S1mple was toxic as hell too, especially in his old days. We all know his statements from the streams. But after he joined NaVi his toxisity decreased a lot, because of Blades teaching. But yesterday, it was the first time someone was screaming these bad slurs in t1 event. I was surprised seeing that chopper or hally did not stop him, because there is a line between banter and just pure hatred. And I am pretty sure, if he keeps on doing that, it will bite his ass in the long run, especially if he does that on stage in front of people, who can actually understand russian.
2024-02-04 23:46
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gonna be lots of whataboutism relating to s1mple here but imo he is right Donk should at least wait for his voice to deepen before he starts screaming also should stop screaming and shout instead
2024-02-04 23:40
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#144
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine zheka67797
S1mple lost first years of his career because he was toxic kid everyone avoided. S1mple`s career only proves Blad3 is right.
2024-02-05 00:30
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#384
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Europe yommamas
Simple's behaviour against his own teammates while under his coaching, proves him wrong
2024-02-05 10:41
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1 reply
no it doesnt because he never insulted his own teammates
2024-02-05 10:56
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#53
Faceit level 10  | 
spardaus | 
Lithuania Woozylul
Great interview from Blade you can tell he is a very smart person, people hating on him just don't understand what he means.
2024-02-04 23:40
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2 replies
people hating on him just doesnt have enough iq
2024-02-04 23:43
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#319
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
KiMaRR | 
Lithuania disesion
+1
2024-02-05 08:47
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Can any Russan speakers confirm/deny what Blad3 says? As in, that donk's shit talking is way over the top? I'm inclined to take his opinion seriously, he's a very rational guy. There's typical shit talking like "Sit down" etc etc - I want to know what donk is saying that is so crazy.
2024-02-04 23:42
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youtu.be/4QuM7ODi71w?si=MAOjmMBCsQGNMBkM.. Enable english subtitles, there's a short section about fining Spirit because donk was screaming offensive stuff.
2024-02-04 23:51
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From what people say, he's cussing phrases like "cocksucker" "I pissed on them" etc. really weird shit, apparently spirit has gotten problems with esl admins as well because of this
2024-02-05 00:17
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#219
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Russia balalexv
Actually, most of those things were said in teamspeak, not yelled. But still, I would say that Team Spirit at all swear too much (I don't even speak about games, in vlogs and so on, and donk just repeats it).
2024-02-05 02:18
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youtu.be/4QuM7ODi71w?si=nyV0ZVwNoZXNZlOl.. It got so serious ESL even fined Spirit mid event, so I think B1ad3 isn’t pulling this one out of his ass.
2024-02-05 05:41
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#58
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
MATYS | 
United States LongDong
Blade so wise
2024-02-04 23:42
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#66
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China RADNIKEY
God B1add3r
2024-02-04 23:44
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I mean he's 17 and winning so that gives him some leeway, but screaming unnecessary insults isn't going to win him points in the long run. That is an excellent way to squander all the goodwill he gets from his mad skills.
2024-02-04 23:47
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1 reply
well said
2024-02-05 02:20
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#73
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
Says the guy who coached s1mple. I expected more from blade. Also during the game he said he expected 2-0 when it was them who should’ve gotten 2-0ed. Salty af. Btw I don’t like anyone screaming shit but at least don’t be twofaced about it. Boomich for me is a good example of hyping up the team but not insulting the opponents.
2024-02-04 23:51
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Blad3 is a smart man and I'd take his word for this case. I dont think there's any malice behind it. Donk is a 17 year old child and is still developing, better to root out toxic patterns early so he isn't a malding rager at 24. I get why the twitch audience likes shouting and such but still.
2024-02-04 23:49
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#76
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Europe nekker
not surprised to find out hltv is infected with teenager boys who think its "cool" to yell insults and mean also mean it. Bunch of teenagers fueled by sugar drinks
2024-02-04 23:49
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#89
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Sweden lefflan
Indeed, and 90%+ of the people who comment don't even read beyond the click baiting headline.
2024-02-04 23:55
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#95
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Germany Sol1taire
lol 100% fueled by the energy drink sponsors
2024-02-04 23:59
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im 100% sure whatever he screams he doesnt mean it literally, its a side effect of being extremely hyped up during a lan game tbh he should definitely tone it down with insults tho
2024-02-05 01:04
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#440
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Europe nekker
True I dont think he means it so I take it back. Its clear from the Sprit vlog. Chopper is smart, he even said just dont say things like that, we will just pay the fines lol. But its dangerous attitude because kids typically soak up like sponge whatever their role models say or do
2024-02-05 12:26
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Drink prime and yell baby
2024-02-05 05:44
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#388
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Europe yommamas
Flag
2024-02-05 10:43
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Some russian could please say to us whats donk is screaming? i'm very curious
2024-02-04 23:51
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#85
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United States kamenator
Donk is a bit unhinged with his screaming but what can you do. The 17 year-old is just enjoying the game
2024-02-04 23:53
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6 replies
#106
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Portugal ReyZ555
being 17 cant be an excuse for everything in a lot of countries you can be in jail with 17yo
2024-02-05 00:04
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17 is old enough to know better. If he was like 13-14 then maybe but 17 you should be mature enough not to call your opponents cocksuckers or whatever it is people here are saying he said. There's a difference between some trash talk/banter and insulting people.
2024-02-05 01:53
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4 replies
personally I wouldn't really care if someone called me something like that but not everyone takes things the same way.
2024-02-05 02:13
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1 reply
#280
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
Snowflakes you mean?
2024-02-05 06:53
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#389
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Europe yommamas
Do you have any source on this? Of course you don't
2024-02-05 10:44
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1 reply
literally spirit's vlog you tool
2024-02-05 10:59
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#86
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Slovakia sniks
Donk is just a little cringe brat. Imagine if a professional player of a normal sport did this, they would be kicked immediately.
2024-02-04 23:53
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1 reply
I wish apex will show him how french will deal with insults. Case Zidane and head donk
2024-02-05 00:55
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Donk won't keep doing the same thing, you can actually see he toned it down a lot if you compare him yelling during his first match. He was just in everyone's heads and had that advantage both on and off the server, everything worked out in his favor and he needed it as this is his first time on a big LAN event.
2024-02-04 23:56
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DnoVi deserve it
2024-02-04 23:59
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#108
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Russia mshkoda
Blade angry because of donked? Let kid adaptate.
2024-02-05 00:05
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6 replies
#224
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Croatia Pagan44
Your grammar pretty much already confirmed you being low iq, but what "adapting" has to do with him yelling out stuff like that???
2024-02-05 02:28
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#238
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India Rau7n
Bad grammar doesn't imply low IQ, what you on ?? And adapting means getting used to big LAN dumbo, it might be getting on nerves so he screams like that to comfort himself.
2024-02-05 03:21
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4 replies
#242
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Croatia Pagan44
Ik what it means you moron and it still doesn't answer my question, what's the correlation between adapting to lan environment and him acting like a toxic individual you encounter in mm...
2024-02-05 03:42
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#303
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Russia mshkoda
+1 ty bro =)
2024-02-05 07:48
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#461
Faceit  | 
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Mongolia Oreosmilkshake
I know india and russia going for a kiss lately but u don't really have to show that up in here, being toxic brat is not gonna achieve anything for him , atleast in the long run, also what is he actually adapting? learning new slurs in different languages? or how to show his yellow teeth and scream like an special ed? his coach literally said he needs to tone it down and yet here you are bunch of armchair psychiatrists shilling for this toxic teenager. GET A FUCKING LIFE
2024-02-05 14:24
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#465
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India Rau7n
He doesn't need to think about long run for now, he is young and just doing whatever suits him. Just for an analogy, a growing kid sucks his tounge when he is stressed because it's his comfort zone. Growing up, a person eventually breaks the habit. Same with him, most important thing for him is to perform, also you are a pure hater going for his teeth and whatnot GET A FUCKING LIFE
2024-02-05 14:34
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The screams are pretty annoying
2024-02-05 00:09
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At first one can say that Blade is being soft, but taking in consideration the context given in #62, it makes sense and donk should chill. Let's play the "he's still young, he can learn from his mistakes" card, even when that's usually a shitty and poor excuse some fans use.
2024-02-05 00:12
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#146
Faceit level 6  | 
donk | 
United States larrypotato
ironic
2024-02-05 00:30
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#152
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
magixx | 
World mcs#
I hate toxicity as well, but still I have to disagree with Blade on this: "When apEX is screaming, it's a different thing. He's screaming bad words and you see he means this, actually." Ngl, that's very subjective statement. For me it doesnt seem like this, it seems like 16-17yo kid just screaming random meaningless stuff because he thinks it's cool/helps to play with confidence. Judging 16yo for his personality isnt the smartest thing. And chopper told (in latest Spirit's vlog) that donk has already improved his behavior since last lan where he was too vocal (bb dacha). Also, donk seems really humble in these vlogs/communication with mates so I dont really think that he's a super toxic person. Will see though, but I definitely give him more time.
2024-02-05 00:47
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youtu.be/4QuM7ODi71w?si=nyV0ZVwNoZXNZlOl.. Ye he improved so much, that Spirit got literally fined by ESL, because of his behaviour lmao. Yelling at your opponents serious insults isn’t ok, B1ad3 is right.
2024-02-05 05:49
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#445
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
magixx | 
World mcs#
"Improved" doesnt mean totally fixed, he was screaming way worse stuff during BB Dacha so my statement is correct. And Spirit "got literally fined by ESL" is incorrect, they got warned. Also, you're missing my point, I'm not saying Blade is wrong, I'm talking specifically about this quote: "He's screaming bad words and you see he means this, actually." Here I disagree with Blade.
2024-02-05 12:50
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donk is typical russian in MM, nothing but braindead toxicity
2024-02-05 00:37
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PPl have double standard. Hltv users like to insult apex and cadian for screaming, but donk can do whatever he likes and nobody can say anything about him.
2024-02-05 00:37
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2 replies
#394
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Europe yommamas
revolutionary idea: it's probably different people. People who don't see a problem with this, probably are fine with APex too and vice versa
2024-02-05 10:49
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I'm not sure, because hext was screaming. Because he was playing bad, he was not "allowed" to trashtalk. Ppl tolerated way more when they love the players. Anyway, nobody is indifferent with donk.
2024-02-05 14:30
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He lied about encourage this behaviour from Spirit and also he based to say that apex say something different
2024-02-05 00:41
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1 reply
Chopper literally said "tone it down a bit, but its ok bro, go on, we pay the fine"
2024-02-05 11:01
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donk is screaming “c0cksuck3rs” (in Russian) so of course Blade is correct, sad to say.
2024-02-05 00:41
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3 replies
Did you actually hear him screaming it?
2024-02-05 02:29
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2 replies
#237
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
COCAINE | 
Uruguay RamzeYC9
2024-02-05 03:17
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1 reply
#396
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Europe yommamas
>trusting a ukrainian flag when it comes to a russian team you can't be this gullible
2024-02-05 10:50
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at least im not only one who was annoyed by this emogirl scream lmao , thats just hurts my ears so bad they wanted to bleed lol
2024-02-05 00:44
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i like both donk and NaVi, i think it's cool to see such a promising young player prove his worth against higher-tier teams and i've been a fan of NaVi since the international rebuild. however i agree with b1ad3, based on the sort of things donk was saying. spirit should step in and do something, not necessarily rain on his parade but at least refocus it to be more positive like hyping the team up rather than screaming pretty nasty obscenities at the enemy. i don't think s1mple being toxic is an example of hypocrisy either because unless i'm missing something he isn't yelling shit like "cocksucker" to the enemy team like donk. again, no hate towards donk but he needs to cool it with that sort of stuff. he should model himself after m0NESY, another future goat but much more polite and professional as a player.
2024-02-05 00:44
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Its hard when laws dont let you 1-punch a kid screaming shit to you
2024-02-05 00:46
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1 reply
Ahaha, yes, it would be great if they all fought, it would be a show! Although, I will say that it’s bad to think like you. If you cannot answer a child without violence, then what is your IQ?
2024-02-05 10:56
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cry is free
2024-02-05 00:49
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What about toxic simple? did blad3 say something to him when he was cursing even his teammates? I bet he didn't.
2024-02-05 00:49
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#183
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland M1K120
shots fired
2024-02-05 00:50
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You snowflakes say whatever tf you want about b1ad3 but he is absolutely right. Hally and chopper should enlighten him as a mentor
2024-02-05 00:52
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#472
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Russia Kalacia
You guys are the snowflakes, crying about some kid yelling basic insults. If he can back up the talk, he can talk as much as he wants. Grow up. Adults shouldn’t get offended by words
2024-02-05 15:12
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Jokes on you thinking i got offended by these stuff :) Idgaf about him at all, all i know is that he is an underage kid who doesn’t respect his opponents and insults them on a regular basis so someone should mentor him and show him the right way, thats the first rule of sportsmanship
2024-02-05 15:22
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#476
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Russia Kalacia
Blade most definitely is offended and he is a grown man. Close enough
2024-02-05 15:20
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1 reply
Idc if he is offended or not, his statement is right.
2024-02-05 15:21
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#187
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
World HOWMUCHHOWMUCH
simple would never
2024-02-05 00:52
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#195
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland teppo123
donk got warning from admins and their coach also told him to not use curse words. i think he was shouting curse words mostly against enemies that could not understand what he was shouting. judging by watching the games ever since he's been acting properly eng subs youtube.com/watch?v=4QuM7ODi71w
2024-02-05 00:59
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#211
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United States zovint
Blade is right. Donk is gonna have to adjust his behavior. It’s just the better path forward. Not many people love s0mple either. Why be toxic ? :D
2024-02-05 01:23
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#212
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Canada thw423
why is everyone saying "well s1mple is toxic" Like duh :D so he would know first hand how to tone it down a bit bc he was way worse back in the day lol
2024-02-05 01:37
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I mean him screaming words than might go against ESL tos like certain slurs and insults would be understandable. Especially when compared to apex or cadian taunting/screaming.
2024-02-05 01:40
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B1ad3 is absolutely correct. But donk is still very you, he’ll grow up.
2024-02-05 02:19
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#223
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Russia i0n1x
"He's screaming bad words and you see he means this" nice cope. he is obviously trolling.
2024-02-05 02:26
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#236
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Australia jd4ddy
As long as he’s not insulting people and just screaming fuck yeah or something on line of that, it should be fine. Idk russian though, he seems like a nice kid and I highly doubt magixx and chopper are saying to him to insult everyone
2024-02-05 03:17
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#239
Faceit level 10  | 
s1mple | 
Finland Lapatzu
Donk is kinda annoying when he screams like that. He should fix that
2024-02-05 03:21
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#240
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Asia botuiop
is he chewing a gum?
2024-02-05 03:30
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#244
Faceit level 9  | 
Singapore floofy1
when b1ad3 personally calls you out, you know you should take his advice.
2024-02-05 04:17
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B1ad3 looks very good for his age…
2024-02-05 05:22
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I STAND WITH DONK
2024-02-05 05:30
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Give him a break! It's his first T1 event. He was already much calmer during Complexity game. He will learn.
2024-02-05 05:39
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1 reply
Because he was threatened with a fine by the admins and his entire team told him to cool it.
2024-02-05 06:06
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Lmao blade just stfu U literally ate every single word s1mple said and u never said nothing back, never mentioned anything bad about s1mple’s behaviour One thing is when a kid screaming towards an opponent during a lan game, which is not something that everyones’s not used to and another thing when a kiddo is just demolishing his own team in ts by shitting on his older teammates S1mple has been a dick for his whole career, not to opponents, but to his teammates yet it never happened to be something that can prevent him from being successful Blade must’ve been suffering from a memory loss then “When apex is screaming it’s different” Who tf it’s any different? Blade is a schizo
2024-02-05 05:49
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youtu.be/4QuM7ODi71w?si=nyV0ZVwNoZXNZlOl.. S1mple never did this towards enemies and I dislike and critize s1mple his whole career. And who says B1ad3 approves of what s1mple was doing. I have seen B1ad3 trying to talk reason and calm down s1mple mid match multiple times, you could see that especially after lost first maps when studio gives us few shot of s1mple standing up and walking to his team mates trashtalking. B1ad3 joined Navi as coach after s1mple at the time when Navi were already deeply dependent on s1mple, not to mention he was already the best player at the time, he had to deal with him and his massive ego somehow, if someone stood up against s1mple and his toxicity, they would most likely get kicked. Perhaps since donk is 17yo and not on his team B1ad3 can express himself more publicly and means it more as advice towards donk rather than critism.
2024-02-05 06:02
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#399
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Europe yommamas
yeah, he did it against his own teammates, soooo much better!!!!
2024-02-05 10:51
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Blade isn't Zeus. And s1mple was never toxic to enemies. If S1mple says something in his team then it is the team that have to deal with it. And also the things that went public tells that no matter how brutal S1mple was it had always to do with Cs and player/team performance. Not a dumb insult
2024-02-05 07:17
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Donk is da goat he can scream all he wants ;) x.com/jlcsgo_/status/1753901285345042624..
2024-02-05 05:56
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#275
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Malaysia biatche
im normally with anything donk does, but i think blade is right on this. someones gonna punch him one day and i dont think he can be that aggro irl as he is in game. maybe he has a belt idk. at some point, donk will meet a bully like freakazoid and then something might happen like the konfig incident. though it'd be nice to have some clarity of his exact choice of words... but if i were to guess it'd go beyond 'f your m'.
2024-02-05 06:08
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Banter is part of the game in LAN, but what donk is doing is not banter, you can tell his whole life has been nothing but videogames, like blade said, he means what he screams, you can see anger in him, that is not healthy.
2024-02-05 06:40
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3 replies
You don't know what a banter is when you think it is just a dumb insult. And I think this is the case for a lot of his defenders here.
2024-02-05 07:13
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2 replies
i'm not sure, but you might be dyslexic.
2024-02-05 15:07
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1 reply
Or I am smart
2024-02-05 15:18
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agree to disagree. Tell him somebody that donk wasn’t worse in CSGO w/o the wide-swing advantage. Also: ez to counter, then y tf didn’t you do that?
2024-02-05 06:52
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#338
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World suxn
He did mention he needs someone with aim like his to counter him but its easy to make better decision making. So need a player with god aim and great decision making then its ez. Basically says you need monesy/ropz/zywoo to counter him i guess.
2024-02-05 09:30
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Just avoid personal insults. If someone shout "bots" or "stay down" during match time I'm all for it.
2024-02-05 06:55
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1 reply
+1 nothing wrong with a bit of ego, it’s entertaining. As long as it’s not personal or in bad taste then I have no issues
2024-02-05 13:08
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#282
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Malaysia biatche
based on #252, if thats all he said, its not so bad. aholes and csuckers, no big deal. but more meaningful insults would be better. im the #1 protaganist here... more than half of hltv hate me because im the good guy and i get to mock these fools all the time. donk should learn from me.
2024-02-05 06:56
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#290
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Russia czern0bog
he is right actually
2024-02-05 07:18
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#296
Faceit level 10  | 
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Ukraine Xe0m
it's more like a cultural thing. have you seen mongolian, chinese, japanese or other asian team shout at enemies? anyway, blade is right. donk has shown that his parents do not care about his upbringing
2024-02-05 07:25
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The kids a brat, overrated and has yet to prove anything. People need to hop off the hype train
2024-02-05 07:36
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lmao u and b1ad3 can stay salty
2024-02-05 22:23
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#298
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania JoQue
I can't believe there are so many people defending donk. His potential is huge, but if he will not have the right people around him and calm down a little bit, i don't see him going far with his attitude. You are at your first big LAN, in great form, showing some good CS, it's fine if you shout a little bit here and there but take it easy and don't act like you invented Counter Strike.
2024-02-05 07:37
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4 replies
The thing is - man is in a great org, Spirit will always tell him off if there is a need to, both Hally and Chopper are professional af and surely know when to push the brakes
2024-02-05 08:58
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2 replies
#329
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania JoQue
Time will tell.
2024-02-05 09:09
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1 reply
Idk, I look at Blade and man is really not giving me any 'be respectful" vibes, meanwhile I look at Hally or Chopper and instantly wanna stfu
2024-02-05 09:11
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+1
2024-02-05 11:10
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He don't want him to be like s1mple I think .
2024-02-05 08:06
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2 replies
S1mple not scream at enemies very often. I can't remember once.
2024-02-05 08:45
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1 reply
I mean in game before he called toxic at start .
2024-02-05 10:02
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#312
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Germany L1lK1M
Dude I wanna slap that stupid kid in the face for screaming like such a cunt
2024-02-05 08:26
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#316
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ukraine Wr3cker
It's very strange that his face hasn't been broken yet
2024-02-05 08:43
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Blade is such a boomer Donk GOAT
2024-02-05 08:44
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Cope is hard
2024-02-05 08:57
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#325
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Poland basakdm
If you watch the interview with Donk you'll realize he's a reasonable guy.
2024-02-05 09:00
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#326
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Greece her-1g
Blade, man as his senior please take that little sh*t to a brothel. He needs to become a man
2024-02-05 09:04
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#333
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Europe pro_lapse
Then why couldn’t he make s1mple shut up? Even back in Flipsid3 days Blad3 himself was bullied by s1mple - no comment, some kid shouts at opponents - real shit? Or cry is free after getting fucked by Spirit?
2024-02-05 09:19
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#341
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World suxn
I suppose its a different thing when s1mple is bullying teammates compared to when someone is yelling shit across the table. One is internal affair and another is bad publicity. Can you imagine logitech/intel wanting anything to do with poorly acting kid with bad words AND obnoxious body language/tone? Logitech is navi prime sponsor and intel is tournament sponsor, his yelling got warning from the admins already.
2024-02-05 09:39
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My bro Blade is just protecting his team against 17yo teen lol. There are really offended by his play and scream. It is obvious for everyone that donk cant express himself in a more polite way because of lack of communication. And still Blade is complaining about that in interview. Yeah Blade, noone noticed that. Although it was glad to read that Spirit did not shut donk up. Its crucial to express yourself and donk will learn how in time
2024-02-05 09:24
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#339
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Europe yommamas
Holy shit, this is peak sore loser moment. Noooooo, don't trashtalk us, actually we totally only lost because of the trashtalk, poor us getting bullied by a 17yo kid :(((( Blade has lost it completely
2024-02-05 09:31
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10 replies
There is a huge difference between "trash talk/banter" and shouting things that might be insulting for someone. Things like "sit f*** down" or "why are you so quiet?" etc are just normal banter/taunting, but shouting actual insults might take it personally and so on.
2024-02-05 10:01
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#360
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Europe yommamas
While true that there is a difference, no one crying about Donk speaks Russian here, so no one knows what he actually said. Plus they went international anyway, apart from Bit and Wonderful they didn't understand him anyway. Plus mostly him coaching Simple for years is why this callout feels wrong on so many levels
2024-02-05 10:15
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8 replies
S1mple was extremely toxic back in the days, but not shouting toxic stuff. Either Org said to him that you can't say stuff or Bl4de said to him something. Also S1mple might have gotten fines/verbal warning by organizer.
2024-02-05 10:20
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7 replies
#366
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Europe yommamas
> but not shouting toxic stuff Biggest cap on HLTV ever, it's not even close
2024-02-05 10:22
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3 replies
Yeah might have shouted if someone makes a bad play or someone makes huge clutch, but someone might take it personally if you are shouting actual insults to other players.
2024-02-05 10:24
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2 replies
#374
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Europe yommamas
Are we talking about the same simple here???????????
2024-02-05 10:28
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1 reply
generally speaking.
2024-02-05 10:29
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hell naw s1mple was absolutely saying worse at donks age lmaooo
2024-02-05 11:57
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2 replies
And he got alot critique of that when he was younger. There is a fine line between banter/trash talk in game and insults that might upset someone.
2024-02-05 12:25
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1 reply
i mean idrc about either in game, i think whatever goes but im just saying s1mple evidently shouted toxic sht at people meant to insult theres a clip of him calling friberg an old fggot lol
2024-02-05 15:31
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hypocrisy from blade: donk screamed only: "lie down". others swearing was just said in teamspeak like others teams do And apex its most nastiest guy in the pro scene. 2 Faced Blade Toledo ( sorry Fallen , its a joke, nothing personal <3)
2024-02-05 09:35
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#355
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World suxn
I agree apex is also dancing on the edge of rules with his yelling but he manages to make it more forgivable. I'm pretty sure he has received warnings from admins too and learned to tone it down. -Donk yelling from the top of his lungs repeating the same thing over and over again, which is just obnoxious ear piercing behavior. Coach said him not to yell cocksuckers but i'm not sure what he was yelling through the different matches. Btw i think Donk already toned down in last few recent matches, good for him. -Apex yelling something incoherent while standing up making power poses, "HOW YOU LIKE THAT; HAHAA!" and then cheerfully closing it with "WOO!", its partly obnoxious behavior but also done with more panache and in better taste.
2024-02-05 09:55
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2 replies
Don't defend apex, against ence he yelled that they are noobs. It's just that until esl has clear rules, it's just the way it is. Unfortunately, cs is not a chess, but a game of aggressive teenagers.
2024-02-05 10:27
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1 reply
For Apex, I at least believe he knows most of the people in Tier1 and they know him. If someone I know talks trash in a game it's not a real issue. If it is some random ass kid that's kind of different. Just my take.
2024-02-07 20:31
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The goat coach and best mentor for young talents has spoken.
2024-02-05 09:37
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#352
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Uzbekistan nasr1dn
Navi got donked, that is it
2024-02-05 09:46
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#354
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World DarK_Ign
based. nobody complain about m0nesy on his behaviour, because m0nesy is way more mature and professional despite him being young also, Niko and G2 did a good job. A lot of people defending donk just because they liked the player and yet they talk about hypocrisy, funny to witness honestly.
2024-02-05 09:51
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#361
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Canada minibeech
shouting antics? I can think of a long list of people who are much worse, "apex, heroic cadian for starters. And at least he keeps it cool when he does actually dies. Doesnt go smashing his keyboard and desk like Elige.
2024-02-05 10:17
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#414
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World suxn
Apex Cadian and Donk have all toned town their shouting antics. I think it was good note from Blade and seems like Donk/spirit have already taken steps towards right direction after betboom dacha. Donk is still young and he is allowed to learn from his mistakes and seems like he is trying to calibrate the shouts somewhere between punishable and allowed to be of maximum effect. (Just like apex and cadian have done) Elige smashing his desk is another thing entirely, frustration towards your own gear is less punishable than being disrespectable towards other people. He would have to flip the table or do something majorly disruptive to be noted for that.
2024-02-05 11:14
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B1ad3 will never be at that level and never has been. He's just jealous and trying to make a point about donk who is only 16 years old. If you look at past years, look at Navi's screaming in their games, it was many times worse (if that counts as bad). For me personally it's very cool that there is emotion in the game!
2024-02-05 10:24
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#378
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Bulgaria sh1shkov
i think he only needs good haircut tho
2024-02-05 10:30
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Everyone who is judging here, please stop insulting Turkish players yourself. In every game someone makes offensive comments about Turkish players. In general, you just have to behave well in the game, set an example for the younger generation. And then a gang gathered with condemnations. I’m sure it’s with you that I constantly play the game and encounter toxicity. Damn experts
2024-02-05 10:46
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#419
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
England MuziK
Surprised people are sticking up for donk here when clearly he’s in the wrong, there’s a difference between shouting things like “I can’t hear you?!”, “sit down!” etc and what donk is coming out with, absolutely crosses the line. He’s supposed to be a professional and is representing an organisation, the kid needs to grow up, he’s 17 not 13.
2024-02-05 11:29
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#434
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Albania Navi_ivaN
I scrolled through all the comments and still haven't seen any proof that Donk was shouting insults :\
2024-02-05 12:07
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#436
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Australia Beard43
Good advice for donk there, just because he actually took a fat dump all over NAVI doesn't mean he has to rub it in.
2024-02-05 12:10
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idk how can u compare s0mple/apex to donk in this matter. the young guy who won fkn nothing coming to on of the biggest cs events playing against winners of majors/other big tournaments(Kato too) multiple times screaming after every round. Sasa toxicity to his teammates doesn’t have to do anything about trash talking to his opponents, and if he does it it’s only because they have some rivalry or really intense game, and enemy started it. And apex, yea for sure he does it, but most of the times it has background standoff and it sounds more like troll and he doesn’t rip his voice off every round to do it unlike… yes u can be good af and nice irl but have some more respects to players sharing stage with you.
2024-02-05 12:14
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#442
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Europe LastBlast
blade just fan of wesley snipes lul
2024-02-05 12:29
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1 reply
Senior tax is the biggest fan
2024-02-05 15:19
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blade why so rude, hes soon from same country with u))
2024-02-05 12:36
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#444
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donk | 
Sweden D0NKMINAT0R
Genuinely impressive how so many morons entirely miss his point.
2024-02-05 12:44
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#446
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Palestine d1zzy_b
donk screaming "i will p33 on your mother's grave" isn't THAT BAD, SAID ALL THE RUSSIANS HERE
2024-02-05 12:51
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4 replies
The only thing he shouted in the direction of the opponents: "Lie down" "Where are you?" "SAVE!" "Here"
2024-02-05 13:21
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1 reply
#488
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Palestine d1zzy_b
2024-02-05 16:47
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he didn't say that
2024-02-05 16:16
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1 reply
#482
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Palestine d1zzy_b
2024-02-05 16:17
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#447
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Poland Nalax
it's funny how this caused so big discussion xdddd
2024-02-05 12:52
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He reminds me of a little Hitler
2024-02-05 13:23
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1 reply
#494
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North America drac0zGOD
LMAOOOO
2024-02-05 19:16
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why dont you said the same thing to toxic s0mple
2024-02-05 13:58
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its pretty obvious what blade is saying. you can be very toxic and say all sorts of mean things, but you cross the line when you start shouting them in a public space, which the venue of this tournament is. there are cameras everywhere and admins standing behind you.
2024-02-05 14:33
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#466
Faceit level 10  | 
Bulgaria sn0wcs
2024-02-05 14:47
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#484
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland SebL
I'm kinda worried about Na'Vi, we all know that B1ad3 is a perfectionist, and I don't think that's the way to go for international rosters, I don't think it's possible to build that solid foundations and play it so perfectly in the last seconds when the calls get hectic. I really think he needs to change his approach if he wants to win with international rosters. About donk yelling, does anyone has example of what he was yelling? I don't know Russian but from what B1ad3 says it sounds kinda serious, I get his point.
2024-02-05 16:44
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#487
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Palestine d1zzy_b
2024-02-05 16:46
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#490
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Denmark 12inchNRG
Blade is such a cry baby sore loser, accuses teams who beat NaVi of cheating, now having a big cry over donk destroying his team and calling them cocksuckers.
2024-02-05 17:35
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#492
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India Faze0089
Sour grapes for blade after getting Donked and shiroed by Spirit.
2024-02-05 18:26
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DONK DONK DONK DONK. In all seriousness, Donk is the most exciting thing so far in CS2. A lot will come with just experience on LAN. Every sport has shit talkers. We are witnessing greatness, in its truest form. I also think it's hysterical that you guys are letting a 17 year old get in your heads.
2024-02-05 18:32
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old man cant handle banter from a rising star, how pathetic
2024-02-05 22:23
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LOLOLOL save that advice for simple
2024-02-06 10:26
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#508
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Germany Tunio
hes autistic i guess
2024-02-06 17:27
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#509
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Lithuania Bank__S
I mean trash talk goes two ways, I'm not opposed to trash talking per se, but i draw the line between in-game trash talk and "personal" trash talk if one could call it that. What i like about Apex, his trash talk is contained in-game, like after a sick play or a great clutch, calling the other team noobs, shouting sit down or whatever, thats trash talk even i am guilty of doing, but shouting "c*c*suckers" and whatever else donk said, thats just rude as a pro player and a representative of an org. After one tapping head and saying "Glad you don't need to go to the hair salon now" is one thing, saying "Since you're russian i was hoping your terrorist side would be better" is another. One is about in-game reasons, other has nothing to do with the game
2024-02-06 17:51
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Blade tilted and cried over a 16 yo kid
2024-02-06 19:50
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DONK has a great future, but I think Blad3 should change his job
2024-02-06 21:32
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#515
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United States Cevichi
its his first big tournament. let the kid talk his mouth. if he gets humbled *i doubt he will* , then thats a lesson for him to learn
2024-02-06 21:47
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#516
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Armenia VirtusNo
B1AD3 you are being a giant B1A...
2024-02-07 00:19
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#521
Faceit level 10  | 
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Russia nimfoureleven
man should take responsibilities for his words and a kid should be taught about this it's weird to me when you scream some shit to your opponent and then going for handshakes after the game with a smile kids like donk, boombl4 have to take slaps to the face not handshakes
2024-02-07 19:03
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#522
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Malaysia biatche
kids will behave like kids, you must be a kid yourself to not understand this.
2024-02-07 19:10
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#524
Faceit level 10  | 
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Russia nimfoureleven
17 y.o. kid should be already learning how to be a decent man by his age and I've never seen a kid allowed to shit on everyone just because he is young I'm sorry for your kids if you let them do everything they want without explaining them anything I'm 27 now.. still a kid myself in some sense :D but my parents taught me well way before I was 17
2024-02-07 22:27
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#525
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Malaysia biatche
why are u behaving like 27 or younger and not 60?
2024-02-07 22:29
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3 replies
#526
Faceit level 10  | 
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Russia nimfoureleven
are you a woman or what? get to the point I'm not gonna play "guess what I'm saying" with you
2024-02-07 22:33
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#527
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Malaysia biatche
if 17yo kid should be learning how to be a decent man by his age..... then 27yo man like yourself should be learning to behave like an old man. hm? and a 9 year old should behave like a teen, hm? no one should act their ages, is what you're suggesting?
2024-02-07 23:03
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#545
Faceit level 10  | 
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Russia nimfoureleven
ffs really? I have to explain basic things like this to you? it's not about always trying to be older it's about growing up, and once you became grown man it doesn't matter anymore how old are you: 17, 27 or 57, you are a grown person you teach your kid way before they turn 17 to behave respectful to others, and at this age you closer to being an adult than to being a kid, so basicly AT 17 YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FCKN BRAIN to watch what you saying, that's what I suggest it's so fckn weird to explain basic stuff
2024-02-09 17:45
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cry is free, blade
2024-02-08 11:20
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2 days and still no one has explained what "really bad words" donk used and how he "really meant it"..... also, these are the same people making excuses for Cadian insulting people's appearance etc.
2024-02-08 19:14
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Watch russians get mad af in the comments 😂 Maybe read more than the title...
2024-02-09 03:23
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why don't you cry more blade - QQ. He did meet a better team and better aimers - FAZE. He f**kin dumpstered them too.
2024-02-09 04:57
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Young generation so sensitive. Its a fucking internet game and people takes it too seriously. Blade is right anyway
2024-02-09 13:47
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