MOUZ claim No. 1 for first time in history

FaZe have been knocked off their perch for the first time since February.

Back-to-back wins in Malta and Serbia put siuhy's men at top spot

MOUZ have risen to number one in the HLTV World Rankings for the first time in the organization's history.

The German club reached No. 2 on three prior occasions for a total of 17 weeks, under the leadership of Chris "⁠chrisJ⁠" de Jong in 2018, Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen in 2020, and current skipper Kamil "⁠siuhy⁠" Szkaradek in November 2023.

But, after successive triumphs at ESL Pro League 19 and BetBoom Dacha Belgrade, MOUZ's current lineup have gone one better and claimed top spot with the maximum allowance of 1000 points.

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MOUZ sweep Spirit to claim BetBoom Dacha title

MOUZ have won ten series in a row, dropping just three maps, and won two best-of-five finals in 3-0 fashion during the streak.

The only asterisk on their record is that both LANs took place without a huge crowd, though MOUZ will have a chance to translate their studio dominance to an arena at IEM Dallas before the summer break.

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ZywOo masterclass ends FaZe's final streak

MOUZ's climb upwards comes at the expense of FaZe, who drop to second for the first time since February 5, before IEM Katowice.

karrigan and company's CS2 grand final streak came to an end at eight in a row in Pro League's quarter-finals, opening the door for their traditional challenger MOUZ to barge past them.

The other big movers include Falcons, who finally turned a corner in Belgrade with a top-four finish and rise to 13th.

RANK
TEAM
ACHV
FORM
LAN
TOTAL
POINTS
+/-
1.
500
200
300
1000
+1
2.
463
168
274
905
-1
3.
295
95
296
686
+1
4.
343
100
212
655
-1
5.
260
92
175
527
-
6.
281
49
128
458
-
7.
129
128
105
362
-
8.
142
90
78
310
-
9.
142
67
77
286
-
10.
112
41
86
239
-
11.
71
81
60
212
-
12.
97
46
57
200
+1
13.
107
34
33
174
+6
14.
49
82
28
159
+3
15.
50
55
38
143
-3
16.
40
65
38
143
-2
17.
58
33
29
120
-1
18.
44
34
39
117
-3
19.
42
51
17
110
+1
20.
41
34
33
108
-2
21.
64
27
15
106
+1
22.
17
66
19
102
+1
23.
35
33
33
101
-2
24.
28
41
20
89
-
25.
32
37
18
87
-
26.
41
30
11
82
+1
27.
13
39
29
81
+1
28.
19
49
12
80
+1
29.
30
11
24
65
-3
30.
8
46
6
60
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Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1719
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
34
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
2331
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.69
Poland Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
835
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.69
nice gj guys and Brollan :D love u
2024-05-20 19:02
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28 replies
ez for the best nordic player rn
2024-05-20 19:19
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7 replies
#222
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Croatia Dakky
Jimmphat?
2024-05-20 22:29
0
4 replies
read it again
2024-05-21 15:22
0
3 replies
Device?
2024-05-21 17:12
0
2 replies
*best player not worst
2024-05-21 18:18
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1 reply
#285
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Ukraine Animaaaad
device, stavn and jabbi>brollan
2024-05-21 23:17
0
SpawN?
2024-05-21 14:28
0
You got my love man. First time in 5 Years Sweden have a decent player. Hope he can continue his form. But he still Far away from Jimmy the Goat and Dev1ce.
2024-05-22 13:02
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Everyone know that FAZE is still NUMBER ONE in reality Why? In CS2 made in all previous CS2 Pro Tier-1 events 7/8 of Grand Finals, won half. Mouz what, won two events and suddendly HLTV ranking think they are number 1 after 8th in Major recently... SIMPLY: HLTV rank is broken clearly, "old" results disappear too fastly and 1 or 2 tournament can give any team number one spot no matter if another team made 7/8 grand finals & won half and mouz don't come even close to FaZe's success' in CS2,
2024-05-20 20:10
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18 replies
Mouz is also No.1 in the ESL Ranking...because both rankings try to reflect a current state of the scene. Which is good, considering how many invites ESL dishes out based on their ranking, so current success should account for more. Neither ranking though claims to show the "Best Team in the World"...only the best performing one. And considering that Mouz, even though they often had stretches of really good performances never claimed the first spot before should tell you that it isn't as easy as you make it out to be.
2024-05-20 20:22
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9 replies
#185
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Danzk1
+999
2024-05-20 21:15
0
Ranking system is broke also in ESL rankings and Valve rankings, because system "forgot 'old' results" so fastly. It doesn't realize that there can be huge time between tournaments. All CS2 Tier-1 tournaments should have longer period they are count in rankings, thats how you fix the broken system. And mouz isn't the best performing team in CS2, FaZe is by far compared to any other CS2 team if we watch all results. Ranking doesn't work if its only count 2 last tournament heavily.
2024-05-20 21:55
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7 replies
I never said they are the best performing team in CS2, I said they are the best performing team right now. You should also look up (which you won't, I know) how the point-decay works and what exactly the ranking is based on. Mouz won two tournaments in a single month. Actually, if you look at the last three months (May, April, March), Mouz had better results than FaZe in S-Tier Tournaments. The more interesting question is why you get butthurt over a cosmetic ranking that might very well change next month already...
2024-05-20 23:02
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6 replies
First of, there isn't such thing as "best performing team right now". It takes time to measure who is best performing. Otherwise we could say that Bundesliga team that is worst in season 2023-24: Darmstadt 98 with 3 win is best if they happen to win 1 or 2 games against best team Leverkusen (top of Bundesliga) that Darmstadt 98 is the best... just crazy idea You get whats wrong in your logic?
2024-05-21 02:48
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5 replies
#257
NEO | 
Poland Apapus
If Darmstadt won two tournaments within a month, which included games against Bayern, Leverkusen and Dortmund, then yeah, I would say they would top a "currently in form" ranking.
2024-05-21 08:20
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1 reply
#272
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Kasidro
+1
2024-05-21 13:21
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#271
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Kasidro
Nice flawed logical counter argument lol
2024-05-21 13:20
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#274
Faceit level 10  | 
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Lithuania Juloso
Your logic makes no sense lmao.
2024-05-21 14:43
0
That's not how it works. Mouz didn't just win "one or two games", they won two tournaments in dominant fashion. A realistic comparison would be more towards something like Tennis. Djokovic is still No. 1 in the ranking right now, but is he the best player currently? No, he is actually struggling quite a bit, same with some other top-dogs. Buuuut because the ATP-ranking scores the last year, he is still holding up because something he did a year ago. Not saying that this is bad, but if you wanted to know who is currently the "hottest player" going into Paris, the answer would probably not be Djokovic.
2024-05-21 19:05
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#193
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Germany n0b|e
wrong. booh
2024-05-20 21:29
0
if faze were still number 1 in reality, why arent they number 1 in the rankings??? hltv>faze so hltv rank isnt broken
2024-05-20 21:55
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4 replies
because ranking is broken, read my arguments and counter if you can.
2024-05-20 21:55
0
3 replies
I will not because they are wrong
2024-05-20 22:02
0
2 replies
Too much Pablo powder
2024-05-20 23:50
0
1 reply
not enough
2024-05-20 23:52
0
#259
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
Sweden DiTzZ
That's why this is the current rankings, my guy, not overall. FaZe being in a grand final 5 months ago doesn't outweigh what Mouz has done the last few weeks.
2024-05-21 08:51
0
#275
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United Kingdom Junly_
joke
2024-05-21 14:44
0
#244
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Estonia EquitaS
All he needed to back at Tier1 CS is to leave NIP. Some sort of a tip for REZ.
2024-05-21 00:31
0
#2
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Korea zhuoding1
EZ
2024-05-20 19:02
0
Congrats!
2024-05-20 19:02
0
2 replies
deserved
2024-05-20 20:56
0
1 reply
#308
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Turkey Tagan35
no
2024-05-23 21:09
0
#5
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
sad they rebranded from mousesports....
2024-05-20 19:02
0
16 replies
The old logo was pure class, such a shame they go for minimalistic shit when it's not needed
2024-05-20 19:18
0
15 replies
never really understood the old logo tbh
2024-05-20 19:19
0
7 replies
i think the ear was supposed to be a computer mouse
2024-05-20 19:26
0
Mouse
2024-05-20 19:29
0
4 replies
#82
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Poland Ryunar
Mouse
2024-05-20 19:34
0
doesn't really look like a mouse though, mouth is way too big
2024-05-20 19:58
0
2 replies
#164
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Netherlands Dutch69
I think it was supposed to be a Hand on a mouse, if i put my left hand on my mouse it kinda looks like the old logo
2024-05-20 20:48
0
Bring old vintage Mousesports logo back
2024-05-20 21:19
0
it was horrible and I'm glad it's gone. I'm sure Mouz is also glad, since their stickers are always the most valuable
2024-05-20 22:23
0
You think? Mousesports was nothing in begin of CS at 2000, teams like a-Losers dominated scene (german were practically only then 25 years ago who had pro teams, sad that most of them aren't alive today): liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Advanced_On..
2024-05-20 20:12
0
3 replies
#187
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Belgium Kakthusemanjen
Before SK existed, CS got dominated by 1) eoLithic 2) NiP (when NiP started to become great they became better than eoL, but not early months in 99-00) 3) Alternate.ATTAX 4) SoA 5) aAa 6) team9 7) Alternate.ATX 8) mTw, some years after that it was 1) SK (some of Matrix/NiP) 2) Mousesports 3) mTw 4) team 9 5) esu (later became team9.esu) 6) a-Losers. They never were the best. That's what I remember lively. Out of all best teams in different early versions of CS (b6 till 1.6) I would say SK-Gaming were the ones that dominated the scene the most, by a large margin. SK HeatoN SK Potti SK ahl SK SpawN SK XeqtR no better team than that. Also always prefered the German team Alternate over mTw. mTw had gob b (what I remember), but ALT.ATX was legendary with Roman R. - CHEF KOCH - gore - Kapio (also was in mTw before ALT.ATX together with gore). ROMAN was just one of the very best and mostly, most consistent player out there, but the overall best player not considering consistency would be HeatoN for sure. edit: Best 1.6 team for me was NoA with Naikon, bsl, knoxville, shaGuar and method. The NoA after that with elemeNt I also loved.
2024-05-20 21:27
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2 replies
#236
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
Was XeqtR on the same team as spawn? I thought it was Heaton, Potti, Ahl, Fisker, Xeqtr Xeqtr left and they got element. And then spawn joined after that And yes that Noa team was so good good times for cs Also i would say the Polish 5 Pentagram/MYM dominated cs 1.6 they were consistantly beating any variation of the SK/Nip teams And then came MTW which dominated for a while but the Polish 5 always gave them a run for their money And then came Navi with Starrix and markeloff which dominated at the end of cs 1.6
2024-05-20 23:50
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I would put Navi as the best cs1.6 teams. coL, fnatic, SK, NoA, mTw & polish golden 5..at some point these teams really dominated the scene..
2024-05-21 02:37
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#194
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Netherlands Dvid
Ugly AF dude
2024-05-20 21:31
0
pure class? i.imgur.com/NzEBYzO.jpeg nah
2024-05-21 10:57
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1 reply
hahaha wtf is that :D
2024-05-22 00:57
0
deserved
2024-05-20 19:03
0
ence 2 soon the teams will adapt to their style
2024-05-20 19:03
0
2 replies
Salty because teams adapted to spirits style after 1 week(donk go kill)
2024-05-20 19:17
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#77
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Europe tweekzter
I agree that the chemistry they have feels a lot like ENCE a few years ago. Ences' downfall came with changing the team rather than opponents adapting IMO. They added "firepower" and after that it went downhill...
2024-05-20 19:33
0
Congrats. Jimmy and others
2024-05-20 19:05
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#9
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Portugal 7sson
RESPECT
2024-05-20 19:03
0
DESERVED
2024-05-20 19:03
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#11
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
It's crazy how winning BetBoom event can make you #1.
2024-05-20 19:04
0
31 replies
yeah its crazy how they have a 91% winrate in the last 3 months and have made 3 finals and won 2 put them first
2024-05-20 19:07
0
27 replies
#25
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
You act like if BetBoom didn't happen mouz would be #1 right now.
2024-05-20 19:08
0
26 replies
i dont,this win put them first and deservedly so
2024-05-20 19:08
0
25 replies
#29
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Bookie event determining #1 is crazy
2024-05-20 19:09
0
24 replies
ur just gonna ignore that they won epl and beat both vitality and spirit with ease and before that made chengdu finals?
2024-05-20 19:10
0
23 replies
#36
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
bookie event put them in #1 💀💀💀💀
2024-05-20 19:12
0
22 replies
yeah cause they are the most consistent team itw rn,faze isnt they have lost 2 games in 3 months and they are to faze and g2
2024-05-20 19:14
0
18 replies
#41
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
EPL was the first final Faze didn't make in CS2 and you're calling them inconsistent?
2024-05-20 19:14
0
16 replies
yes? mouz has been a better team overall lately
2024-05-20 19:16
0
15 replies
#46
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Very impressive winning a tournament with 1 team in top 5, definitely #1 material.
2024-05-20 19:17
0
14 replies
def better than struggling againt every team u play against,have u watched faze play? mouz deserve to be called the best ranked team rn based on their recent form
2024-05-20 19:22
0
13 replies
#52
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Hmmm maybe we should check the h2h between mouz and faze then? Surely if mouz is so good they are beating faze constantly?
2024-05-20 19:23
0
12 replies
what part do u not understand about hltv rankings,they dont do their rankings based on h2h
2024-05-20 19:24
0
11 replies
#55
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Yeah they do their ranking on bookie events
2024-05-20 19:24
0
10 replies
im pretty sure they do them based on which team looks better,and it has been mouz despite their h2h against faze
2024-05-20 19:28
0
9 replies
#68
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
The winner of thunderpick world championship should be #1 next
2024-05-20 19:30
0
8 replies
i think the team who show the most consistent cs and should,maybe if faze woud still be number 1 if they started playing consistently outside playoffs
2024-05-20 19:36
0
7 replies
#90
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Mouz is definitely consistent, at getting eliminated on stage.
2024-05-20 19:38
0
6 replies
yes mouz has been more consistent thats why they are #1
2024-05-20 19:39
0
5 replies
#97
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Glad we can agree that mouz can't play on stage.
2024-05-20 19:41
0
4 replies
glad we agree mouzes consistency earned them #1 over faze now
2024-05-20 19:41
0
3 replies
#100
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Yeah #1 stage fright team
2024-05-20 19:42
0
2 replies
with 4 players who dont even have 2 years of tier 1 experience,faze should start being less scared of the studio if they wanna be #1,mouz is less experienced but show 10x better cs than faze overall and thats why they are #1
2024-05-20 19:47
0
1 reply
faze only capable of winning crowded tournaments couse out of nowhere everybody loves them
2024-05-20 21:41
0
I was with you until this comment lmao
2024-05-20 19:55
0
you are very fun to argue against :)
2024-05-20 19:26
0
2 replies
#64
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Flag
2024-05-20 19:27
0
1 reply
#110
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United States blargCS
ironic
2024-05-20 19:53
0
#81
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Europe tweekzter
BetBoom alone won't... case closed.
2024-05-20 19:34
0
2 replies
#94
Faceit plus user Faceit level 8  | 
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania Jebaiteroni
Someone needs to do a study on why so many mouz fans use the EU flag.
2024-05-20 19:40
0
1 reply
Your baiting is a bit too forced tbh. But it clearly worked so wp I guess.
2024-05-20 21:10
0
well deserved!
2024-05-20 19:04
0
FaZe Academy has finally passed FaZe University
2024-05-20 19:05
0
18 replies
when did they last beat faze?
2024-05-20 19:06
0
17 replies
8 months ago, in EPL 18 in csgo. They never beat FaZe once in CS2.
2024-05-20 19:08
0
12 replies
#89
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Iceland Voidsphere
Well, FaZe also stood above NaVi for a long time without beating them, so? FaZe beat NaVi recently, MOUZ will beat FaZe soon enough.
2024-05-20 19:38
0
11 replies
do it in the arena then cause MOUZ still can’t perform in the arena.
2024-05-20 19:40
0
1 reply
Idgaf, they're evolving right now.
2024-05-20 19:49
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#155
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Estonia LfLion
Can't wait for it :D Let me tell you , neverrrr :D faze will take #1 back on next tournament lmao
2024-05-20 20:37
0
8 replies
If you say so FaZe-fangirl. Even if, who cares? FaZe's team expenses are probably five times as high as MOUZ's.
2024-05-20 21:05
0
3 replies
#184
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Estonia LfLion
Fangirl , look who got butthurt:D How many times did Mouz beat faze on cs2? Lmao
2024-05-20 21:14
0
2 replies
Well, considering 3/5 of the current FaZe team are former MOUZ players I'd say quite often.
2024-05-20 21:17
0
1 reply
#310
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Estonia LfLion
Look at this noob team , can't even win against 9z ,I told you faze takes back top 1 after Dallas <3
2024-05-27 21:58
0
nice cope, mouz is better
2024-05-22 00:58
0
3 replies
#292
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Estonia LfLion
Yet they haven't beat faze on cs 2
2024-05-22 05:12
0
2 replies
scenario team A wins 3 big events team B wins 0 big events team B beat team A in a series is team B better than team A?
2024-05-22 22:35
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1 reply
#304
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Estonia LfLion
Nope but.. About big events ? Mouz won only one big event , other is bookie shitty tournament and that's all :D Or.. idk if esl is even big event lol
2024-05-23 04:20
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#85
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Europe tweekzter
Well, basically FaZe consists of 3 MOUZ players... when was the last time FaZe had another idea than "let's just buy MOUZ' players"?
2024-05-20 19:36
0
3 replies
"Let's sign Neo as coach" was pretty recent
2024-05-20 19:56
0
Karrigan was in faze before he joined MOUZ. So technically, only 2 players. Twistzz wasnt in Mouz Broky wasn't in Mouz Coldzera, NiKo etc weren't You get it :p
2024-05-21 12:23
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1 reply
#283
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Ukraine Yggahs
bro check ur facts. Karrigan was in Mouz before faze even existed. NiKo´s first Top 20 Team was Mouz back in 2015. FaZe took Karrigan, NiKo, Ropz and Frozen so far.
2024-05-21 18:48
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#17
Faceit level 6  | 
NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
MOUZ > FRAUD CLAN
2024-05-20 19:06
0
1 reply
Call me when they beat them in CS2 lmao
2024-05-21 02:43
0
I will never forgive this org for what they have done to chrisJ.
2024-05-20 19:06
0
4 replies
what did they done to him last time i checked he was their player with the most games played
2024-05-20 19:07
0
keeping him on the roster for too long?
2024-05-20 19:14
0
#159
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany BOOOM_xD
ChrisJ kicked himself out by spreading conspiracy theories and ignoring covid
2024-05-20 20:40
0
1 reply
Yeah yeah yeah typical lauterbach responds lol
2024-05-20 21:24
0
Siuhy effect
2024-05-20 19:06
0
1 reply
#91
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Europe tweekzter
+1 I instantly had a good feeling with him. He's the right guy to make a young team full of talents perform.
2024-05-20 19:39
0
#22
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South Africa Criticle
vamouz, very nice.
2024-05-20 19:07
0
siuhy top1 igl in cs2
2024-05-20 19:07
0
Frozen died for this
2024-05-20 19:08
0
1 reply
he sacrificed himself*
2024-05-20 19:13
0
Coincidence
2024-05-20 19:08
0
#30
ropz | 
Slovakia nvrn06
1000 points = real no.1
2024-05-20 19:09
0
#32
Faceit level 8  | 
NiKo | 
India ga7axy
Wow
2024-05-20 19:10
0
#33
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Netherlands Dutch69
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
2024-05-20 19:10
0
Brollan in top1 team and NiP nowhere to be seen warms my heart.
2024-05-20 19:10
0
1 reply
+1
2024-05-20 20:16
0
#35
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United States breaston
Undeserved
2024-05-20 19:11
0
2 replies
#195
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Germany n0b|e
i like that u like m80, but that comment is utterly wrong. corner of shame
2024-05-20 21:31
0
1 reply
#210
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United States breaston
Until they win on a big stage w crowd , fake #1
2024-05-20 22:01
0
EZ 4 MOUZ 'VAMOUZ so happy for them
2024-05-20 19:13
0
Fully deserved, especially in regards to form. Hopefully they can get a bit of a break soon
2024-05-20 19:14
0
absolutely deserved VAMOUZ
2024-05-20 19:16
0
GOAT TORZSI
2024-05-20 19:23
0
first finnish player in top 1 team as well?
2024-05-20 19:24
0
1 reply
Seems to be correct, young Jimi the 🐐
2024-05-20 19:33
0
Respect Shoe Hey
2024-05-20 19:24
0
#61
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Poland Unboxing23
2765 days to finnaly see Polish flag on the top...
2024-05-20 19:26
0
2 replies
what about neo tho?
2024-05-20 19:36
0
1 reply
#99
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Poland Unboxing23
I meant the player mainly because the coach is not displayed when you enter the ranking
2024-05-20 19:41
0
VAMOUZ ♥3♥
2024-05-20 19:26
0
tells you how relevant hltv rankings are if you can get #1 by winning a 8team invite only tournament
2024-05-20 19:27
0
6 replies
Cry more
2024-05-20 19:33
0
1 reply
bawling my eyes out as we speak, how did you know?
2024-05-20 19:33
0
#80
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World suxn
Mouz has been having good results in all the tournaments this year but I think its still shocking they surpassed faze (who had an incredible run for entire cs2). mouz run this year: Betboom 1st ESL pro league 1st Chengdu 2nd Major shared 5th Katowice shared 3rd
2024-05-20 19:38
0
they have won both EPL and BetBoom in a row, invite only or not, they have won with VP, HEROIC and 3-0'd Spirit without sweat if you can't respect the effort and the form they are currently in, you're just butthurt - maybe take advice from your own nickname
2024-05-20 19:38
0
dontcryaboutit
2024-05-20 19:43
0
+1
2024-05-20 20:13
0
FaZe: knock knock
2024-05-20 19:30
0
#67
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Italy PavIusha
History. But let's continue, boiiiii
2024-05-20 19:30
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#70
Faceit level 10  | 
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Luxembourg MrKaroX
I'm 100% for mouz however spirit under g2 is a scam lmao
2024-05-20 19:31
0
1 reply
#288
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United States KappaCat
Just because Spirit hasn't been playing as many events as G2 lately. That will change
2024-05-22 01:17
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#72
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Georgia Megobari
What a redemption arc from Brollan
2024-05-20 19:32
0
#73
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Russia goodXXmood
deserved
2024-05-20 19:33
0
Well deserved! Happy for Brollan.
2024-05-20 19:35
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#96
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Romania garcea89
FROZEN WAS THE PROBLEM!!!
2024-05-20 19:40
0
great team
2024-05-20 19:42
0
Soon: Faze -karrigan +siuhy
2024-05-20 19:44
0
14 replies
#196
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Germany n0b|e
sadly likely
2024-05-20 21:32
0
13 replies
Why is it likely? Because Faze has been on the top for so long now, and it's more "prestigious" because of it? Right now Siuhy has a great backing and care from the org, they have a roster they have been taking care of since Academy along with Sycrone, they have a great dynamic and right now they have proven to themselves they can just stay at the top. The MOUZ org has a history of dealing players to the top instead of staying on the top, but that has clearly changed, and all players have expressed that they are happy with how MOUZ is treating them. Why bother with transferring to Faze when you can just take MOUZ above Faze in every aspect? Especially that Faze is an unstable org that is mostly likely headed in some wacky crypto direction. Staying with MOUZ where you already have everything you need and more is a nobrainer.
2024-05-20 22:51
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12 replies
#228
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Germany n0b|e
i agree with all of that... and i hope it wont happen. but judging from historic patterns it seems likely. sorry tbh i wont explain why rn
2024-05-20 23:07
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#239
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
faze probably pays more salary
2024-05-20 23:52
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10 replies
Highly doubt that, especially that Faze is an American org and all players are European. Benefits, insurance, salary in euro, healthcare, general care from the org - all of that is better in Europe, especially that MOUZ is a German org.
2024-05-21 15:29
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9 replies
#289
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
with that logic, team liquid dont pay much either because they are american org
2024-05-22 01:51
0
8 replies
Not saying salary is bad, but overall employee conditions in EU countries are usually much better (considering MOUZ is a German org, one of the best places for it), especially for European players. American orgs would need to either have it as a bonus or compensate with much higher salary for what is a guarantee in Europe by standards or sometimes even by law.
2024-05-22 03:58
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7 replies
#291
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
but mouz are known to always sell their players and not spend money to buy players. i dont think they would be paying well
2024-05-22 04:59
0
6 replies
Don’t know if you noticed, but they have clearly changed their approach. They have also had a stellar history of their academy program, which they have now turned into the main roster, along with the coach. And they became #1. They stopped dealing to the top, and instead plan to stay at the top. And even if they would still be selling players, it’s one of the best places to be then, since they built them from the ground up and made them worth a lot. All while taking care of them in a significant way.
2024-05-22 15:10
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5 replies
#303
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
how have they changed their approach? they just sold their star player in frozen and bough brollan cheap off nip because of the trainwreck nip was before frozen they sold ropz who was also their star player how can i notice a change when they do things like that? i dont know if you notice but they have not changed their approach. they got lucky in signing jimphat a rookie who turned out to be a star.
2024-05-23 00:09
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4 replies
Frozen was lined up to join Karrigan along with Ropz, Brollan was meant to complete the new roster. Sure, Jimi turned out to be a star, but Siuhy turns out to be next gen's top 1 IGL and with the help of Sycrone and Xyp9x they also turned torzsi and xertioN into beasts, along with Brollan and Jimi. They have promoted academy team with great success, they have been carefully working on their team dynamic and atmosphere for 3 years now, and they have also brought Xyp9x for his experience and big stage insights. And now they are #1 for the first time in MOUZ's history with average age of 20.6, and in around 8 months (5 with Brollan). Players are constantly speaking out how happy they are with the org, and org's official social media is posting how they plan to stay on top. You don't do all of that to just sell your top players now that you are THE top players. It's the first time MOUZ as an org has invested so much resources, care and social media presence for a roster. But sure, it's the same as it has always been.
2024-05-23 04:44
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3 replies
#306
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
stop strawmanning, this conversation started from me saying faze probably pay more salary and you turned it into how MOUZ are the youngest team and are number 1. come on
2024-05-23 06:16
0
2 replies
Do you even know what a strawman is, or have you just read a bunch of buzzwords online? I've explained how Faze's higher salary is not that much of a factor, as it's the case when we are talking about European players and European orgs. You said that because of it, Liquid probably doesn't pay that much either. You haven't addressed any point I've made, you've dismissed the entire message basically. You've later pulled out some wacky argument that MOUZ is known to sell their players, so they are probably not paying well, because that's what makes sense in your head. I've addressed each and every point, addressing that MOUZ has changed their approach and backing it up with facts, rendering your argument invalid. You've moved the goalpost each and every time without addressing my messages back, you've turned it into a talk about MOUZ's approach towards their players but you are talking about me strawmanning? Maybe actually read what you are posting, are you high or is your ego that invested into a casual online forum?
2024-05-23 20:25
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1 reply
#309
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
yes i do know what strawmanning is and you are strawmanning with your argument. how can i even debate with anyone who does that everything i said is true, and instead of telling me why im wrong you just come out with another fact that has nothing to do with what i said. so i tell you why you are wrong again and you do the same thing. im done arguing with you. you are too arrogant to ever admit you are wrong. Good day to you sir
2024-05-24 00:22
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Congrats Brollan 👍 Oh, NIP isnt even on the list
2024-05-20 19:47
0
2 replies
holy crap for real. neither is fnatic and not seeing any of them is scary in a way. nip are the legends of old cs and fnatic is the 1st ever era in csgo and both of them absent. feels uncanny
2024-05-20 20:58
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1 reply
Yeah kinda weird
2024-05-21 12:14
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#106
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Germany melungi
Vamouz!!
2024-05-20 19:48
0
1 reply
VAMOUZZZZZZZZZ WE HAVE WAITED EVER SINCE MOUZ HAD SPIDII
2024-05-20 20:09
0
Finally, well-deserved
2024-05-20 19:50
0
Lets go MOUZ finally they won tournaments... deserved and congrats and MOUZ UP!!
2024-05-20 19:51
0
congratz deserved!
2024-05-20 19:53
0
Deserved
2024-05-20 19:54
0
congratz
2024-05-20 19:56
0
#116
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United States blargCS
falcons +6 for beating vp and bb and then getting crushed by spirit. LOL
2024-05-20 19:57
0
1 reply
by the same spirit who got nothing to push them higher in this rating i might add
2024-05-20 20:53
0
Faze era is over sadly
2024-05-20 19:59
0
5 replies
Not over, their results are still superior in CS2 compared to any team, HLTV rank is just broken, "old" results disappear too fastly from points and 1 and 2 recent tournament wins can made practically anyone number one FaZe's Second Era still continue, despite broken HLTV ranking
2024-05-20 20:04
0
there was never a faze era lol, there wasn't an era in cs ever since astralis went downhill
2024-05-20 20:52
0
3 replies
We had liquid mimiera We had navi miniera We had superior and absolute dominance faze clan era in cs go and another faze clan era in cs2 So 0/8
2024-05-20 21:07
0
2 replies
"miniera" meds... don't forget about the outsiders miniera... also are talking about the same faze who had a tendency to finish 2nd more times than 1st and being ranked #1 bot because they are better but because others suck? if anything the "miniera" was before the cs2, but that's it
2024-05-20 21:18
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1 reply
Bruh everyone were suck in astralis era. No one could stand a chance against their boring style of gameplay.
2024-05-20 23:22
0
POGGERS
2024-05-20 20:00
0
Won’t last long in that spot
2024-05-20 20:01
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#121
Faceit level 7  | 
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Germany Youju
Time to change my badge from BIG to MOUZ.
2024-05-20 20:01
0
2 replies
#198
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Germany n0b|e
i was thinking that. but i can like multiple teams
2024-05-20 21:33
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1 reply
#241
Faceit level 7  | 
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Germany Youju
I will still be a BIG fan but after the match against mibr today I am just frustrated with BIG.
2024-05-21 00:17
0
Congrats <3
2024-05-20 20:02
0
Great timing with 2 studio lans back to back, looking forward to a day when they manage to translate 80% of that to arena
2024-05-20 20:03
0
#125
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United States JusJus
deserved
2024-05-20 20:04
0
#127
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United States murph2k
HLTV list has lost all credibility for me. Faze makes the grand finals in all but one tourney and gets jumped by a MOUZ for winning BetBoom? What? MOUZ is a great team and is playing lights out rn, but objectively haven't earned jumping Faze.
2024-05-20 20:05
0
cyx would be smiling today
2024-05-20 20:05
0
#129
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
everyone talking about mouz number 1, but why is noone talking about navi in top3 lmao? What did they do to deserve this spot, +1 for what? not playing BB Dacha and absolutely shitting bed in epl???????
2024-05-20 20:07
0
8 replies
Major win?!?!?
2024-05-20 20:14
0
1 reply
#154
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
its been 3monts bro, get over that fluke
2024-05-20 20:36
0
Major W gonna keep them in top 5 for a while
2024-05-20 20:15
0
4 replies
#143
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
understandable but why are they progressing instead of rather dropping one spot back
2024-05-20 20:20
0
3 replies
They're "progressing" because G2 and Vitality are not winning tournaments
2024-05-20 20:25
0
2 replies
#151
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
vitality were in the EPL final while navi got humiliated by faze (which then got 2-0ed by vitality), and ofc both teams missed BB Dacha so how is that vitality is losing a spot in ranking to navi which did significantly worse than vita last event????
2024-05-20 20:33
0
1 reply
Because of Major and Katowice exit
2024-05-20 22:13
0
yeah i noticed it too
2024-05-20 20:34
0
Sad times.
2024-05-20 20:07
0
Jimi first Finn ever at #1 spot respect
2024-05-20 20:11
0
2 replies
Poor allu
2024-05-20 20:18
0
#178
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland teppo123
69n-28e/roccat was full finnish roster and #1 in the world for couple of months
2024-05-20 21:03
0
MOUZ top 1 first time congrats.
2024-05-20 20:16
0
#140
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Portugal rbm14
100% Deserved, gz mousesports legendary org who's been pushing talent towards top teams for years, finally assemble a young top team of their own essentially with all players from their academy apart from brollan
2024-05-20 20:18
0
Spirit gaining 0 points for a 2nd place?
2024-05-20 20:20
0
4 replies
#156
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
and also navi progressing +1 while doing nothing lmao
2024-05-20 20:37
0
3 replies
Navi actually lost some points, but vitality lost even more. Spirit losing points tho idk...
2024-05-20 21:52
0
2 replies
#217
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
how come that vitality lost more points than navi lol, it doesnt make any sense
2024-05-20 22:14
0
1 reply
Sure it makes sense. If the week/event that gets erased by decay is a week/event that VIT was much more succesful than NaVi, they lose more points in that decay-circle.
2024-05-20 23:04
0
Nice!
2024-05-20 20:23
0
Spirit should've gain #5 instead of G2 after finishing second. Well done siuhy, earned that with respect ! now lets see if they can beat FaZe
2024-05-20 20:25
0
3 replies
#158
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
true ranking 1. Mouz 2. Faze 3. Vitality 4. Spirit 5. G2 6. Complexity 7. Astalis and maybe navi can be on 8th but its still bit too high
2024-05-20 20:38
0
2 replies
#167
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden skorpan
I agree with u on this list
2024-05-20 20:50
0
Navi win g2 5times. G2 cant even m80. But they are top5 in your list. 🤣🤣🤣
2024-05-21 00:08
0
#148
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Germany PheXepH
VAMOUZZZZZZZZ
2024-05-20 20:26
0
i cant believe mouz nxt is n1
2024-05-20 20:27
0
no points for spirit yet falcons +6 what a rigged ass system
2024-05-20 20:29
0
ez for mouz nxt and goat brollan btw. falcons XD
2024-05-20 20:33
0
#157
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Estonia LfLion
Next tournament siuhy 0.8 rating and faze reclaims top 1 , bookmark
2024-05-20 20:38
0
3 replies
#162
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
flair checks
2024-05-20 20:43
0
2 replies
#171
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Estonia LfLion
Facts tho
2024-05-20 20:56
0
1 reply
#174
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
well not if they fail again against some other team
2024-05-20 20:58
0
Undeserved. HLTV need to stop counting these micky mouse tournaments.
2024-05-20 20:43
0
1 reply
#163
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
if so why navi got +1
2024-05-20 20:43
0
ez
2024-05-20 20:43
0
#165
Faceit level 10  | 
United Kingdom kennyvenom
One of the few orgs I remember from back in cs1.6 Maybe only complexity still going? Cant remember the others
2024-05-20 20:48
0
expected, called it mere hours ago, deserved, L faze lel
2024-05-20 20:50
0
gj faze’s sons
2024-05-20 20:53
0
#173
Faceit level 10  | 
 | 
Poland Mratu
goat igl siuuuhy
2024-05-20 20:57
0
#176
BzOo | 
France JBzOo
Deserved
2024-05-20 21:01
0
chrisJ mention in 2024 :D
2024-05-20 21:02
0
MOUZ BEST YOUNG AND CHEAP TEAM GOAT IGL
2024-05-20 21:03
0
EZ 4 GOD JIMI
2024-05-20 21:07
0
fully deserved!
2024-05-20 21:23
0
atleast one german org doing well
2024-05-20 21:24
0
#199
Faceit plus user Faceit level 4  | 
karrigan | 
Germany Pummel
ggs
2024-05-20 21:38
0
#201
 | 
Finland teukkjs
VAMOUZ
2024-05-20 21:42
0
#203
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Australia Beard43
Congrats MOUZ. Deserved top 1 but at 1000 points BetBoom is obviously paying extra for more weighting in the ranks.
2024-05-20 21:52
0
Falcons win 2 games=CRAZY AMAZING PUSH THEM UP 6 SPOTS That cash is doing wonders I tell you. Congrats Mouz tho, Siuhy effect is insane
2024-05-20 21:55
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#209
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Canada minibeech
This move makes sense after their back after back trophies but someone please explain how vitality swapped around with NAVi. Vitality literally just got 2nd in proleague where navi were eliminated in the 9th-12th spot. Yet Vitality dropped 1 and NAVI moved up 1. You cant even spin that in any way to make sense.
2024-05-20 21:57
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#214
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United States dubzNA
Championships > MVPs
2024-05-20 22:06
0
Nice, 5 unknown players took first place
2024-05-20 22:08
0
1 reply
#270
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Sweden saxxo
So you were in a cave in the last 2 years. I see.
2024-05-21 13:02
0
Navi 3rd? For what?
2024-05-20 22:17
0
Vamouz!!
2024-05-20 22:27
0
1 reply
#232
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Czech Republic PaYaB
hell yeah
2024-05-20 23:24
0
#223
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Malaysia Rich1eG0h
The way they dismantled Team Spirit 3-0 in BO5 certainly deserve a no.1 spot as FaZe are not really in a great form right now, even Astralis are in better form than them.
2024-05-20 22:39
0
So, Faze academy >> Faze now .
2024-05-20 22:56
0
ez4siuhy
2024-05-20 23:07
0
#230
 | 
Australia Australis
siuhy effect, congratz bois
2024-05-20 23:17
0
#233
Faceit level 9  | 
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Poland Kobel_
All that's left for perfection for MOUZ is to bring the old logo back
2024-05-20 23:36
0
LFG MOUZ VLAN AND FAZE CLAN ON TOP Damn faze had it going again, almost 2022 duration at no.1 kudos to mouz
2024-05-20 23:47
0
Congrats to Mouse for this achievement, well played man, you guys had it coming for some time!
2024-05-20 23:51
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#242
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Netherlands itsm
Easy xyp9x effect
2024-05-21 00:19
0
#243
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Japan Nekketsu
Faze down
2024-05-21 00:20
0
#246
 | 
France t3r4byt3
MOUZ management is #1 in the scene, deserved
2024-05-21 02:06
0
Classic mouz
2024-05-21 02:34
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#251
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Europe LastBlast
navi +1 dont make me laugh
2024-05-21 02:50
0
How tf did falcons get +6
2024-05-21 03:37
0
Deserved!!!!
2024-05-21 04:28
0
#255
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Germany KEMSN
Vamouz!!! Finally they made it.. Imagine being Brollan 😂 Comes from bench in dead NiP, most people dont believe in him and he was not locking happy and now he is in the #1 team... crazy
2024-05-21 05:05
0
Just wait for a couple big stage tournaments to come around lol
2024-05-21 07:17
0
#258
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania kinoN
Brollan > frozen
2024-05-21 08:49
0
What a joke
2024-05-21 09:18
0
2 replies
Tell us more
2024-05-21 10:56
0
1 reply
Simple's cs course
2024-05-21 11:48
0
according to the hltv ranking system, Mouz got the most grades, but still there's one match left , if they win the match with Faze next time, then it would be more convincible
2024-05-21 09:40
0
Feels good to be a mouz fan
2024-05-21 09:51
0
#269
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Slovakia TheGameu
Finally they got it. I believe it's their first time being No.1. Well deserved after all these years up and down.
2024-05-21 12:25
0
This ranking is a joke. Never seen such an undeserved first place.
2024-05-21 14:48
0
2 replies
#279
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
 | 
Hungary SMKTR
The urge to bait you into thinking that I took the bait
2024-05-21 15:38
0
A team that has accomplished virtually nothing prior, who lost to Freakin g2 and only made it to the quarters in the major, is somehow ranked 1 because of 2 b-tier studio lan events. Lmao
2024-05-22 07:31
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#281
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Sweden Vrede
Ez navi
2024-05-21 18:18
0
#294
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Germany phillo283
Dont understand all the negativity here. Just be happy for mouz, right now they deserve it. Beside faze there are by far the most consistent Team. They know, that they are Not the best Team in the world overall, but who cares.
2024-05-22 08:20
0
NaVi more LAN points than FaZe xd This ranking is so stupid
2024-05-22 09:56
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#297
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Germany j0nnZ
Both mouz and Holstein #1. As a boomer I never thought I live to see it =)
2024-05-22 15:00
0
#299
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Chile nachooww
deserved!
2024-05-22 18:00
0
NaVi wins major and Jimi is the first Fin # 1. GZ young man.
2024-05-22 19:29
0
deserved
2024-05-22 21:22
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