B1ad3: "A BO5 was a little bit too much for us"

The Ukrainian skipper gives his ideas on what went wrong for NAVI in their final bout against Spirit.

B1ad3 cites inexperience as one of the reasons NAVI couldn't find an edge over Spirit

Coach Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy gave his thoughts after Natus Vincere fell to Spirit in the best-of-five grand final at the BLAST Premier Spring Final in London.

Lack of experience, not enough time to prepare, and too much information in the map-dense best-of-five final are some of the reasons B1ad3 thinks his Natus Vincere were unable to shine against Spirit.

As the first half of the year comes to a wrap, the Ukrainian skipper sees his team as below the favorites but with the ability to upset. "We are for sure in the top 8," he says, "but on a good day, we can easily be in the top 5."

It was a tough series. What do you think went wrong for you today?

What went wrong was that we were a little bit sloppy in executing our ideas, like reacting. In my opinion, a best-of-five was a little bit too much for us. We didn't have much time to prepare because we only had two hours a day for preparation.

Usually, we have at least four to five hours, discounting the breaks, for best-of-threes, and we finished late yesterday. It affected us a lot, you know, because we didn't have a deep understanding of what they want to do, or what we want to do, on all maps.

Yesterday, for example, we were in full control, 100 percent, because of this — because we had studied our opponent a lot. We had discussed what we wanted to do a lot. This team is for sure inexperienced if you compare it to teams like FaZe, Vitality and so on.

I think it's hard for them to play a best-of-five, to play each map to their full potential, as they do in a best-of-three. But it is what it is. It's not like we lost because of this; it's just something that affected us, in my opinion.

NAVI had really strong T sides throughout this whole tournament. What do you put that down to? Why were your T sides so strong?

We discuss a lot. Everyone knows their role and tries to be an important piece in the round. We work a lot on teamwork, synergy, and cohesion. Like, what happens if you do this? What happens if you do that? And we work a lot on this now.

When you're playing against a team like Spirit, how important is it to try and shut down a player like donk? Or do you not think about a single player? How does it work for you?

Actually, I didn't see a lot of crazy solo openings, from what I remember. We had a chance on Dust2. Even on Ancient's T side, we started to take control. We lost a force. It could have been really close after that round. And on Dust2 we had a chance. I think we didn't implement everything we had prepared because of this best-of-five.

We had too much information, and I saw people not doing what we had said. Three times, there were different ideas. We didn't do what we were supposed to do when we saw the situation in the game. Maybe it was the stage, maybe it was something else. I'm not saying that Mirage was how we must play, but it definitely shows how we can play.

You had some really big highs this season, winning the Major, but also some tough lows at ESL Pro League and IEM Dallas. What do you attribute that inconsistency to? Because here you were back to playing much more like at the Major.

We are a team that depends a lot on bootcamps. If you check it, after each bootcamp we were playing much better. We had one at the beginning of the season, for BLAST [Spring Groups] and the Major qualifiers, and then we had a second one for the Major. I think that to show good results, we need a really good bootcamp again.

The next bootcamp won't be very long, but I think it will still be enough, like six or seven days, because there will be three tournaments in a row: The Esports World Cup, BLAST Fall Groups, and IEM Cologne. But I think we can be much better. We have been with the core of this lineup for almost one year and we must show good results next season.

Where do you see NAVI in the world rankings? When you think of NAVI, where do you put yourselves?

Every tournament, there is a new champion, which shows that the level of competition is very high and it means that any team can win a tournament. The main contenders are always Vitality, FaZe, and MOUZ. Other teams are a little bit of a tier down. It can be us, it can be Spirit. Spirit are always beating us, so they're for sure higher now.

I think we are for sure in the top 8, but on a good day, we can easily be in the top 5. For example, in this tournament, we made it to the grand final. That's what I'm talking about when I mean a good day for us. We're finding a groove, we're playing in a good mood, with a lot of enthusiasm. And when we play like this, we can be a stable top 5 team, in my opinion.

We beat FaZe two times this season. We beat G2 constantly. But yeah, these teams: FaZe, Vitality, MOUZ, and Spirit. The other teams compete for the fifth spot.

#2
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k1nco | 
Russia l3d4n
Excuses
2024-06-17 13:01
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+1 If it was bo3 they were out already.
2024-06-17 13:32
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#56
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Lithuania Juloso
I mean, if its a bo3 your preperation is different and thus everything can go differently. So I understand blade.
2024-06-17 13:38
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No, coz the first 2 maps would have been the same first 2 maps
2024-06-17 14:20
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#126
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Aleksib | 
Finland Toucherofgrass
You have to less maps to prepare for and Navi happends to be a prep heavy team..
2024-06-17 15:34
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everyteam has the same time brother , spirit would also have prepared better given more time.
2024-06-17 19:39
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#192
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Aleksib | 
Finland Toucherofgrass
The asymmetry lies in the individuals preparing..
2024-06-17 20:16
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#198
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Lithuania Juloso
Navi clearly relies more on preparation that any other team. Spirit can go in and be a top team just by playing their game, navi can not, yet atleast.
2024-06-17 21:02
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#230
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k1nco | 
Russia l3d4n
If you're not able to win a game with less preparation, you're just not a good team. Period. Spirit had the same amount of time yet they were so ready :)
2024-06-18 09:00
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"you're not a good team if you can't win game with less preparation" what's the color of you're major ?
2024-06-18 11:22
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#247
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Aleksib | 
Finland Toucherofgrass
What kind of a team is one that wins major?
2024-06-18 15:08
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#248
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k1nco | 
Russia l3d4n
A team who's able to prepare just for BO3 in the final obviously. Probably the major result would be different if the final was played bo5. Upd: NaVi is obviously a good team and b1ad3 is an amazing coach. But saying you can't prepare for bo5 is just weird to hear from a major winning team.
2024-06-18 16:08
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#139
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Brazil hvhking
It's not that simple. In a BO5 you have to prepared for all 5 maps. In BO3, your opponent and your team can only pick one map. In a BO5, it's two for each. Do you see the problem on why it would be way harder to prepare?
2024-06-17 16:27
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Not at all, its just more excuses. Spirit don’t have to prepare for all 5?? NaVi quite literally came into this event 2 weeks after their last tournament which they had 1 whole ass month to prep for. “ItS nOt ThAT sImPlE” uh yes it is quite literally that simple. Also its just 2 extra maps, 2 maps you have played a million times. You have also already vsed Spirit on Nuke twice and played ancient everytime you vs each other too
2024-06-17 20:55
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#199
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United States NRGY75
wow you are so out of touch
2024-06-17 21:03
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#200
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Lithuania Juloso
except that navi had massive bootcamps before the major and this tournament, and in the others didnt. I think you can put 2 and 2 together to see that they rely on preparation more than any other team for now, preparing for a bo5 is massively more complex and harder than preparing for a bo3. Also your playtime on maps argument is just stupid af, everyone has thousands of games on every map now, so why do pros even practice on those maps at all then, instead just go play aim_botz and win ye?
2024-06-17 21:11
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Fuck you are so dense arent you, massively contradicting yourself. Imagine having a massive bootcamp for a tourny you know has a bo5 grand final, and you go into the grand final and go “fuck were unprepared its too much for us”. You are also acting like every game is super different, no. Its quite literally default react or play off a set exec that may or may not work and pray your shots land. Pros literally say this in interviews all the time.
2024-06-17 21:12
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#202
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Lithuania Juloso
Yes its massively different, the prep that goes into a bo5 is insanely more bigger than a bo3. And no just because they had a massive bootcamp for this tournament doesnt mean it was enough for a bo5 you absulute moron. ''Its quite literally default react or play off a set exec that may or may not work and pray your shots land. Pros literally say this in interviews all the time.'' Yup that totally happens, so now tell me if everything is just a default why are teams even practicing on maps at all? if hitting your shots is all that matters just play aimbotz all day and you are gucci no? The fact that you even lie about this when we have numerious interviews from s1mple and device talk about just how much preparation matters is crazy.
2024-06-17 21:26
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Imagine being a top flight team in the world, coming off of the equivalent of a world cup, you enter a bootcamp for said job and you come out of it going “we are not ready”. Enough said.
2024-06-17 21:32
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#206
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Lithuania Juloso
So are you telling me you think Navi is top 2 in your ranking or what? Like tell me why do you think they win a major and then lose in quarters twice and then go back to the finals again?
2024-06-17 21:44
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native tongue has issues understanding a few paragraphs, maybe you need a 2 weeks bootcamp in english. That way you won't be confused by future news articles and spue less shit 😀
2024-06-18 11:56
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Im chinese.
2024-06-18 12:08
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ok fair enough but you admitting to fakeflagging and also not reading articles correctly/ or interpret them the way they supposed to be = presenting a bad picture of yourself. Incase you weren't aware already.
2024-06-18 13:25
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+ the map choices might be different too
2024-06-17 14:24
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if bo3 the map will different
2024-06-17 14:28
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0 reading comprehensiom, expected from flag
2024-06-17 15:20
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+1 if its bo3 then he loses the final in 1.5hours
2024-06-17 15:29
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They would've lost 2-0 if it was a BO3, so not sure how a BO5 would be 'a little bit too much'
2024-06-17 13:02
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Exactly what I thought
2024-06-17 13:04
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#15
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Kenya aimmaxing
Dust2 was actually pretty close though, despite Spirit winning both pistols, NaVi made it unreasonably close.
2024-06-17 13:07
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The veto would have been different.
2024-06-17 13:11
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#63
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Switzerland DSVBANSHEE
That’s nonsense. The first two picks and bans are the same in a bo3 and bo5. It’s each teams permaban and each teams most comfortable map for that matchup.
2024-06-17 13:47
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Exactly This is huge cope from flukevi fans
2024-06-17 17:13
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#74
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Russia veloxman
spirit and navi would still pick the same opening 2 maps
2024-06-17 13:56
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No
2024-06-17 14:52
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#144
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Denmark Legend42p
hahaah i love it when idiots accidentally oust themselves gj buddy
2024-06-17 16:47
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Nope
2024-06-17 17:59
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not necessarily logic wise: the ban system is different so in theory they could get mirage in sooner and then we can talk chances about third map
2024-06-17 13:11
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the first 4 steps are exactly the same tho, each ban one, each pick one. You think na'vi wouldve picked mirage first in a bo3 and now spirit picks it. Seems weird to me
2024-06-17 13:17
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Because they are preparing for at most 5 maps instead of at most 3, and they have under 24 hours to do that after winning the semi-final. It's at least 50% more prep, more ideas to remember, more everything. Of course all this would've been clear to you had you read the article and not just the clickbait title.
2024-06-17 13:13
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Xdxd
2024-06-17 14:22
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#89
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Sweden tUGG1
this applies to both teams, so shouldn't really be a matter, no?
2024-06-17 14:24
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One team has insane individuals, the other team needs insane teamplay to compensate for inconsistent individuals. It applies to both but isn't the same for both.
2024-06-18 01:12
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Romania iMg0d
He means that if it was a BO3, they could focus on the 2 or 3 maps, skill-wise, utility-wise. He means that a BO5 could be a bit overwhelming. You could say it's excuses or whatever, but Na'Vi and Spirit gave us a good final, the only final to go to a 4th map in a BO5. Would have been nice to see the 5th map but the game was good.
2024-06-17 13:13
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The veto could also have been different in a BO3 because you weigh up a lot more whether to play one map and ban another in a BO3. Whereas in a BO5, you only ban one map before choosing the order of the maps. Prefer a strong Map 2 and 3? Or do you want a strong Map 1 to strike first and be ahead? Or do you gamble and save the best for Map 3-5? With a BO3, as Bl1d3 said, you only have to prepare for 3 maps instead of 5, where the available footage can also be much more scarce on some maps.
2024-06-17 13:19
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You think NaVi would have played Vertigo in a Bo3? Or what do you mean by weighing up whether to play or ban a map? The perma bans are constant like K. And obviously you start with your comfort pick. That veto favoured NaVi because they're pretty comfortable Ancient, Dust, and Mirage while people have been punish picking dust against Spirit.
2024-06-17 16:17
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I could see Chopper and Hally keeping it to an Ancient, Dust II and Anubis veto. With less maps to practice for and the fact that both of the first two maps ended 9-13, there was every chance that NaVi could pick up at least one map with more prep for those maps. Anubis would be a cointoss at that point but Spirit likely remain favored.
2024-06-17 16:44
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he meant it in terms of preparation. They had limited time to put into more maps than usual.
2024-06-17 13:21
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They solo far too much - took fights constantly without chance of trading - Ancient they time and again fought donk 1-1-1 and handed them the map. IM just disappears, still. Time to make a change.
2024-06-17 13:32
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when you have bo5 you try to prepare 5 maps, when its bo3 you focus on 3. If your map pool isnt deep enough you simply can prepare all the maps. Blad3 practically meant that map pool of navi is not deep enough to compete in bo5. And its pretty much how it turned up. The only convincing maps were mirage where navi often plays and dust2 which navi prepared for the tournament. There was no time to prepare nuke or ancient, navi clearly focused their preparation on these 2 maps, but they still lost dust2, mostly because other teams they faced on dust doesnt know how to play the map, while spirit did get good experience by playing it vs actually strong dust2 teams like vitality. Spirit have deeper map pool so its easier for them to be in bo5 games as they in general have more maps they are ready to play hence they are more flexible in veto.
2024-06-17 16:44
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#162
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United States cstactics
I do think teams prepare a bit different BO3 vs BO5. Either way, the better team won. I like iM as a player, but I seriously think that -iM and adding a proper star player to be in those roles would make NAVI a top 3 team easily.
2024-06-17 17:48
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Spirit was the better team, BO3 or BO5 doesn't matter, they would have lost either 2-1 or 2-0.
2024-06-17 23:00
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But they lost a bo3 :(
2024-06-17 13:02
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#5
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Finland jmoa
They would've lost the match even if it was a bo1 or bo3 so...
2024-06-17 13:03
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I just can't believe how is it possible that NaVi is under bigger scrutiny than many other teams. Vitality have TOP1 and TOP5 players of 2023 and have won nothing this season. FaZe and G2 with 3 TOP20 players and one mediocre trophy each. Astralis had 3-4 TOP20 players and best they could do was to lose in semi finals and fail to qualify to the major. Liquid had 2 TOP20 players and failed miserably. MOUZ also without current TOP20 players but only winning 2 studio LANs. Spirit with one TOP20 player and young prodigy winning 2 arena LANs is the only team that rivals NaVi's accomplishments this season. Everyone else failed despite having better players.
2024-06-17 13:03
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#17
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World Kobs
Cause you don t know CS enought just like most kids around here, there IS a Big Luck / random factor in CS but overall It s easy to see who play solid cs even without winning trophies and Who fluke tournaments
2024-06-17 13:15
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What's 'enought'? Is he in the room with you?
2024-06-17 13:11
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You are coping bro. Almost all of those teams were more consistent than Navi. Dallas and Pro League placements really ruined Navi's decent season.
2024-06-17 13:10
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. NaVi had a 'ruined' season? Really? Can you seriously sit there and argue that any of the teams I mentioned besides Spirit had less 'ruined' season?
2024-06-17 13:13
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#44
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World Kobs
You have to watch games and not just look AT results
2024-06-17 13:25
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FaZe went to Grand Final after Grand Final G2 always made playoffs Spirit always made playoffs and also won 2 trophies Mouz had one blip off of a stupid decision not to practice before their final tournament before the break. The only team under more scrutiny in the Top 6 should be Vitality for being the only one without a trophy. Everyone else peaked higher or had more consistent seasons than NaVi and as a result, that slump between the Major and now hits that much deeper. Entering London, I had NaVi firmly as Nr. 6 and under serious pressure from Astralis and VP to be bogged down to 8th. Now, they make an appealing case to be ranked 4th-6th but less likely to be pushed down.
2024-06-17 13:26
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You have to take into account what roster these teams are working with. If NaVi had even one superstar you could justify hammering them for inconsistency but I just don't see this level of scrutiny when it comes to other teams. Astralis had 4 TOP20 players and were not criticized as much after missing the Major as NaVi was after winning it and having 2 bad events after that.
2024-06-17 14:03
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Lmao. Astralis wasn't criticized for failing to make the major? You must be a visitor in Jerusalem or you're trolling.
2024-06-17 16:20
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You might have missed 'as much' in my comment.
2024-06-17 17:54
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i think your point stands, but this analysis with using top20 placings from last year(which was mostly a different game) is just completely the wrong way to go about it.
2024-06-17 13:29
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I appreciate your point but I don't have better way to show other teams had better players than NaVi.
2024-06-17 14:26
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Current… rating??
2024-06-17 14:50
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No, not current. I wanted to show what each team had to work with at the start of the season.
2024-06-17 18:00
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so 2-0?
2024-06-17 13:04
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#10
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Ireland Fl0werz
cope
2024-06-17 13:04
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#11
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Kenya aimmaxing
I respect b1ad3's work, but he is just trying to excuse his players. No team was succesfull long term without a single star player, he should stop backing up his organisation and demand for better players, he deserves way better riflers to work with than iM.
2024-06-17 13:05
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+1
2024-06-17 13:51
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I dont think its an excuse, but rather one of the reasons for why they didnt play as well as they could. Now I do agree that iM is an issue for this team and I think it just really comes down to his aim and dueling abilities - which he lacks severely. When hes winning duels, navi look extremely good, but hes way too inconsistent.
2024-06-17 15:25
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#12
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Italy Karimk03
"and I saw people not doing what we had said. Three times, there were different ideas. We didn't do what we were supposed to do when we saw the situation in the game" isn't this alarming for navi since this team has been together for a year now.
2024-06-17 13:06
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Incredible observation, almost like Blad3 himself explicitly said in the interview they need to see better results because they’ve been together almost a year, you’re a mind reader man
2024-06-17 15:20
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he's talking about things they prepared specifically for spirit, either in the past or literally the night before the match. he's NOT talking about 'the way we should always act against any team', which yes, that would be pretty bad if things were unclear after a year together.
2024-06-17 18:08
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donk was a little bit too much for you
2024-06-17 13:06
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If it was bo3 they wouldnt have even gotten a map lmao
2024-06-17 13:07
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they would have won dust2 if it was BO3. losing dust2 was a fluke ;)
2024-06-17 18:09
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They need dank1ng
2024-06-17 13:08
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mr12 bo5 a bit too much k
2024-06-17 13:09
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#19
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Scotland TWGKofi
Funny
2024-06-17 13:09
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#20
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China BBg666
We beat G2 constantly. hahahahahaha
2024-06-17 13:09
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#102
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Sweden Vrede
but without monesy...
2024-06-17 14:52
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He refers to what blad3 said in the article
2024-06-17 15:50
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9-2 in maps, numbers speak for themselves no?
2024-06-18 00:39
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Does his last name mean a city boy or something btw? Since gorod
2024-06-17 13:10
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Like Michael Townley from GTA 5
2024-06-17 16:33
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#26
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Algeria SilverQuick
All grand finals should be bo5 that's the point.
2024-06-17 13:11
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#27
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
so no s1mple, rip
2024-06-17 13:11
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#32
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Poland Hanse
My brother in Christ, you lost two first maps, you'd lose BO3 2-0
2024-06-17 13:15
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tell me you didn't read the article without telling me you didn't read the article
2024-06-17 13:18
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My brother in Christ, youre stupid if you think the Veto would be the same and they wouldve had the same prep time
2024-06-17 13:28
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#60
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Poland Hanse
Wdym first 2 maps would be exactly the same
2024-06-17 13:44
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#150
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Poland xbleyd
in both bo3 and bo5 both teams ban 1 map and pick 1, then it differs from bo3 as they still pick a map instead of banning one
2024-06-17 17:04
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#160
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Poland Hanse
In bo3 they would never ban first map they picked in bo5 lol It goes like permaban -> best map pick from pool -> banning map thats worst of 2/3 remaining, while in bo5 you ban your worst matchup then pick from best to worst map so there is higher chance that you can close early. Thus they would play ancient dust and anubis, still going down 0-2
2024-06-17 17:32
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#78
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Asia dyingbrain
to be fair spirit also had same time to prepare as NAvi
2024-06-17 14:01
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Since Spirit played their semifinal before Na`Vi, it is possible that they started preparations before Na`Vi, but there's no way for us tell.
2024-06-17 15:28
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NaVi had good results. If someone needs changes, it s g2
2024-06-17 13:16
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Oooh, that is, aim is playing normally? Don’t talk nonsense please, there will be substitutions in Navi, it’s obvious, because they play 4m... hltv.org/stats/players/14759/im , Just look at this star player in quotation marks and tell me he's not a problem.
2024-06-17 13:28
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You're jobless in real life, stop projecting about iM you jealous bot. Go worry about your favorite team, what Navi and iM are doing is none of your business.
2024-06-18 09:14
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huh? what, 2-0 instead?
2024-06-17 13:17
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#39
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Kobs
Look Who he ranks top teams ..i feel sorry for the blind delusional G2 fans
2024-06-17 13:21
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#41
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Denmark popper1920
Bro would have been satisfied with an 0-2 xD
2024-06-17 13:23
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#42
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Japan Kiriji
Couldn't think of a better excuse? Expected stupidity from the most overrated coach
2024-06-17 13:23
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"It's not like we lost because of this; it's just something that affected us, in my opinion" -B1ad3 in the interview you are responding to
2024-06-18 00:43
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"We didn't lose because of this, but it affected us = we played worse because of this = if it was bo3 we would play better etc. Sounds exactly like excuse to me
2024-06-18 13:12
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#43
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Sweden TherealSimba
Time to bring back s1mple
2024-06-17 13:24
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#75
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Turkey Tagan35
I don't think so
2024-06-17 13:57
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#84
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GeT_RiGhT | 
Sweden TherealSimba
Why?
2024-06-17 14:19
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#86
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Turkey Tagan35
s1mple will not return to navi.he said on his stream
2024-06-17 14:20
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#96
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GeT_RiGhT | 
Sweden TherealSimba
Brother never trust what players say lol one day one will say I will never play with this dude then next day he is
2024-06-17 14:38
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#97
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Turkey Tagan35
true tho hahaha as you said, there are examples of this in the past.it doesn't actually matter what the players say
2024-06-17 14:42
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Womp womp
2024-06-17 13:28
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The amount of people just reading the headline and straight commenting / not having reading comprehension whatsoever is pretty alarming.
2024-06-17 13:30
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#53
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland METHDRINKER
Three months after winning a major, you face reality and you have to admit to everyone that you are not even top 5 and never were, aleksi, jL or iM may have a major, but they will never do it again
2024-06-17 13:32
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If they never were top 5, what is the 5th team you would say is better? G2? With hooxi and nexa and underperforming hunter and niko? Astralis? Even with devve igl they still cant make it past semis, and with blame igl they weren't even in the conversation. C9 doesn't exist anymore. VP has been mega underperforming and navi just beat them. Heroic hasn't done much of anything this season. Falcons is tier 2 at the moment. Complexity is solely carried by elige and can only win tier 2 events. Vita, Mouz, Spirit and Faze may have always been better, but who is the 5th team to knock navi out of top 5?
2024-06-18 00:56
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#59
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Ukraine Bumbas_cat
I blame it on B1ad3 if there would be no changes
2024-06-17 13:43
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#76
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Poland BIGGEST_DONK_FAN
there's no chance they're gonna make changes during this break they have set the bar very high for themselves following their major win but everyone knew they wouldn't be able to keep it up with the best teams in the world in the long run I do agree that even with one roster change they could go from being the gatekeepers to top 6 to constantly figting for trophies if they found someone better and more consistent than iM on the other hand, how many times does b1t need to shit himself against spirit to provide any output? every time he plays against them he's practically the worst player on the server, if he played up to his usual standard the game would have been closer also w0nderful is super inconsistent. he's very dependent on how he starts the game. if he gets off to a good start then he can carry the momentum over into latter stage of the map but if he doesn't have a good start then it's tough for him to bounce back and have any impact
2024-06-17 14:05
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#81
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Ukraine Bumbas_cat
Imagine if s1mple were still in that team, iM would've been kicked in no time I'm actually feel bad for sdy and npl cuz they were kicked for less, and we still have iM who underperform for more than a year
2024-06-17 14:11
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#82
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Poland BIGGEST_DONK_FAN
npl will return to navi sooner or later. it's destined to happen seeing his development over the past 12 months
2024-06-17 14:13
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#83
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Ukraine Bumbas_cat
I'm not sure about it, cuz they kicked him like a poor dog I hope he succeed in b8 tho
2024-06-17 14:15
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Thank you for speaking facts
2024-06-18 14:20
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Just sounds like excuses to me, just take it on the chin like aleksi did, be a man and admit you were the worse team yesterday.
2024-06-17 13:47
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stop repeat ur boss Overdrive dude, he just said as he think
2024-06-17 13:49
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Saying that the team was not good enough to handle a bo5 and that they need better results with this team to stay together sounds like an admission of failure to me
2024-06-17 15:23
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blade literally presents his ranking of all teams where spirit is 4th and navi is 5th. what article did YOU read?
2024-06-17 18:13
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"It's not like we lost because of this; it's just something that affected us, in my opinion" -B1ad3 in the interview you are responding to
2024-06-18 00:45
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#67
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United States TacticalSanta
weird, you lose the first 2 maps, a bo3 would have been worse
2024-06-17 13:50
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#69
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Scotland imcpap
That’s why the major final should be BO5
2024-06-17 13:52
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all tourney finals*
2024-06-17 13:53
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#72
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Poland Nalax
stop coping you would lose 2-0
2024-06-17 13:53
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#73
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Romania Toolfuti
I hope all finals from now on will be BO5, it's the best way to decide a real tournament winner, not 1tp dust2 abusers.
2024-06-17 13:55
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2024-06-17 14:55
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Weak mentality every other game have BO5 grand final without problem.
2024-06-17 14:06
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TLDR: it is harder to fluke Bo5. All elite events grand finals should be Bo5.
2024-06-17 14:24
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Absolutely not. Why do we need a bo5 explain it? Why is important to stress the players even more? Why would I need to watch 5-6 hours watching eSports nerd play a video game? How many bo5 have recently went all 5 maps? We can discuss about M12 for bo3 being not enough okay, bring back MR15 and keep it a bo3. But yeah I acknowledge the fact, that we might not get MR15 back and bo5 will now be the new normal for finals more or less
2024-06-17 14:54
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#115
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Romania Toolfuti
"Why would I need to watch 5-6 hours watching eSports nerd play a video game?" Signed up 2023-07-27 Comments 3119 But you waste your time complaining on an online forum (Over 3k posts in less than 1 year) Don't tag me any further please, "ClownTv" was a better name for you ngl.
2024-06-17 15:16
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Bo5 tests team mappool. It's not enough to play well 2-3 maps anymore.
2024-06-18 01:27
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WHAT? If they had played BO3 they would have lost 2-0...
2024-06-17 14:26
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#147
Faceit level 9  | 
Poland xbleyd
exactly, I don’t get it either
2024-06-17 17:01
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#181
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Paraguay MaGisSteR
If it were bo3, they would have to practice fewer maps, and it gives more time for a spirit analysis on each map.
2024-06-17 18:44
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If you have reached the final, then you are already ready and it is late to prepare.
2024-06-17 23:09
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#227
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Paraguay MaGisSteR
He said they only had 2 hours to practice per day. If with so little training they reached the final, I imagine that with a long bootcamp they could win a tournament. But yeah, they played it a little wrong, especially in Ancient
2024-06-18 02:17
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bad veto swap mirage and d2, nuke and anubis and this couldve ended 3-1 in favour of navi but they made things more difficult for themselves, should have played spirit's weaker maps sooner
2024-06-17 14:30
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If you want to be the best team, you have to show it in a Bo5 games. You gotta be prepared, it is the same for the opponents as well. in MR15 bo5 was avoided because of the game length, but now in MR12 bo5 should be mandatory :)
2024-06-17 14:35
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#98
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Australia Beard43
Bo3 good but not best, Bo5 best. NaVi showed much better form here. They definitely had an easier playoffs bracket, but that's out of their control and they did their part to make the grand final. WP.
2024-06-17 14:48
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I respect blade pretty much but dude just go out and say ''they were much better team today in every aspect and that's why we lost'' why you always need to sound smart and arrogant.
2024-06-17 14:51
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he literally said in the article spirit is currently better than them.
2024-06-17 15:43
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XD
2024-06-17 14:54
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#104
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Sweden Vrede
it happens to everyone Better than in ESL btw
2024-06-17 14:54
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Hltv reading comprehension is at an all time low.
2024-06-17 14:55
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Most of us undertand that he isn't saying the format Bo5 is bad, hes saying that they specificially weren't prepared for it. Doesn't make it less of a weak excuse.
2024-06-17 15:54
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I think a lot of nuance and detail gets lost in blades broken english as well.
2024-06-17 15:59
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wdym his english shouldnt be broken at all
2024-06-17 18:48
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#109
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
majky | 
Czech Republic Face420
Everybody acts as Spirit has won 4 tournaments in the row. They just won one and next tournament they will be out in quarters. My predictions is that it will be Faze once again. Now its like one of the most competetive era ever. We dont really know who is top 1.
2024-06-17 15:00
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Sprit played absolutely insane CS, they're top 5 and only moving upwards
2024-06-17 16:36
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mate you got destroyed first 2 maps, if it was a bo3 you wouldn't even have a chance to comeback
2024-06-17 15:04
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They would pick Mirage or Nuke with better prep first on BO3. You're nothing, try not to act like you're smart.
2024-06-18 09:07
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Only if they picked the maps with best prep first 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Keep finding excuses
2024-06-18 13:33
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no respect for him dumbest excuse i have ever seen in my life
2024-06-17 15:10
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Major winner is crying? really?
2024-06-17 15:18
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Win some, lose some. At least they making to playoffs/finals in tournaments. That's all i could ask for.
2024-06-17 15:25
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delulu headline
2024-06-17 15:40
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craziest excuse i've read
2024-06-17 15:47
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#134
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Brazil m1tage
If it's Bo3, bl1d3 and his team could go home much earlier.
2024-06-17 16:09
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they just wanna go home quickly
2024-06-17 17:05
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If major bo5 blah blah blah
2024-06-17 17:06
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#156
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United States jliat
It's killing him that this belligerent 16yo is dismantling his fluke major winning team.
2024-06-17 17:13
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'being given a chance after losing own pick was a bit too much for us'
2024-06-17 18:00
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It was a fluke win. Happy for GOATlexiB but come on now. They could replay the major final 100 times and Faze would win 80+ times.
2024-06-17 18:04
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so was bo3 and bo1 "We didn't have much time to prepare because we only had two hours a day for preparation. Usually, we have at least four to five hours, discounting the breaks, for best-of-threes, and we finished late yesterday. It affected us a lot, you know, because we didn't have a deep understanding of what they want to do, or what we want to do, on all maps." yeah because that bo5 was played on 5 new cs maps against absolutely new team
2024-06-17 18:42
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It would have ended 2-0 then
2024-06-17 18:45
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Get used to it. BO3 finals is taking the puss on the audience.
2024-06-17 19:33
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??? u went 2-0 down brother you would've been swept if it weren't a bo5 lmaooo
2024-06-17 19:44
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worst major winner
2024-06-17 19:57
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I agree but Vp winning Rio major was even worse🤣🤣
2024-06-17 20:46
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No, vp beat all best teams
2024-06-17 20:52
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bo3 merchant
2024-06-17 20:17
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Yeah We could expect such statements from some fluke major winners
2024-06-17 20:45
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they played well and deserved to win the major it was not a fluke
2024-06-17 21:32
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everything checks out lmaoooooooo
2024-06-18 01:14
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navi is a good team
2024-06-18 22:44
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+1
2024-06-18 01:13
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You should bring simple back and build the team around him
2024-06-17 21:48
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Nah spirit was just too much to hand yet again
2024-06-17 22:58
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XD
2024-06-17 23:05
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B1ad3 cites inexperience as one of the reasons NAVI couldn't find an edge over Spirit We have been with the core of this lineup for almost one year and we must show good results next season Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy -Pick 1
2024-06-18 00:03
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exposed ?
2024-06-18 01:13
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#224
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Finland CleanMac
Simple answer to this is that spirit is the stronger team right now. No excuses. Donk & shiro combo can destroy any team. I love NaVi but they are too inconsistent right now. Mission failed, we'll get em next time
2024-06-18 01:18
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Good half of a season for NaVi anyway.
2024-06-18 03:57
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#233
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Serbia hitomi79
Bo5 a bit to much for NaVi, so a Bo3 would be more than enough.
2024-06-18 10:52
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#238
Faceit level 10  | 
Switzerland Snacketti
less % of a fluke the more maps are played, understandable navi doesnt like that
2024-06-18 13:13
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why prepare all 5 maps if you need to win 3 of them, just prepare heavy on 3, you are not gonna lose 0-13 any map even if you do not prepare them just before the game, its not like you will go completely trash on the maps you dont prepare, get your 3 maps ready and cope for 3-2 or whatever, therefore excuse denied
2024-06-18 13:42
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It would not be too much if you had s1mple instead of IM who can get a pistol kill and dies first every round and makes the game more difficult 4v5, how come Liquid and G2 are already making changes and you guys are not its crazy
2024-06-18 14:14
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#252
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Romania JaRo0d
"If it was BO3 we could've been in bed earlier "
2024-06-18 22:43
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#255
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Denmark ReSalty
xD
2024-06-19 12:33
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Doesnt matter also bo3 they would lose
2024-06-19 00:01
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#256
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Denmark ReSalty
Flukvi
2024-06-19 12:34
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resistance was not that bad...
2024-06-20 01:57
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Why not just admit that they are significantly weaker instead of coming up with something?
2024-06-21 08:23
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