Jump-throw grunt now audible to opponents; VacNet 3.0 testing begins in new update

20-8-2024 01:25

A minor gameplay change and a rollout of a new anti-cheat measure were tacked on in Valve's latest update.

Valve took a firm stance against Snap Tap-like features and scripts that allow players to partially automate their movement in its latest update, rolling out measures to ignore certain multi-input binds and to detect and kick players from Valve-official servers for hardware-assisted counter strafing.

Valve take stance against Snap Tap-like features, remove jump-throw binds

Two smaller entries in the patch notes may have been overshadowed by the resulting conversation, one being that the grunt sound made to confirm a successful jump-throw is now audible to nearby players.

The other is Valve taking further steps to combat cheating with the testing of "VacNet 3.0" on "a limited set of matches," with the developer asking to be informed in case of any accidental cancellations at its team feedback email.

The complete patch notes can be found below:

[ INPUT ]
- Certain types of movement/shooting input automation such as hardware-assisted counter strafing will now be detected on Valve official servers, resulting in a kick from the match

- Input binds that include more than one of the following commands will now be ignored by default. Support can be re-enabled using the cheat-protected convar 'cl_allow_multi_input_binds 1'

sprint, reload, attack, attack2, turnleft, turnright, turnup, turndown, forward, back, left, right, moveup, movedown, klook, use, jump, duck, strafe, zoom, yaw, pitch, forwardback, rightleft

- The jump-throw confirmation grunt sound can now be heard by other players nearby

[ VacNet ]
- Initial testing of VacNet 3.0 has begun on a limited set of matches. If you believe your match was incorrectly cancelled, email us the match details at [email protected]

Thanks valve Anyways apparently this works //Jumpthrow alias +muteh "unbind mouse4" alias -muteh "bind mouse4 +jumpthrow" alias revert "bind mouse_x yaw" alias combo "-jump;revert;-muteh" alias +jumpthrow "+jump" alias -jumpthrow "-attack;+muteh;bind mouse_x combo" bind mouse4 +jumpthrow

2024-08-20 01:28

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2024-08-20 01:39

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Nu uh

2024-08-20 01:40

script kiddies keep finding ways to be lazy

2024-08-20 01:42

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fuck you all

2024-08-20 01:43

vALVE this is a bug report 👆

2024-08-20 01:54

🤓 comment

2024-08-20 13:15

2024-08-20 02:24

insanity

2024-08-20 02:53

completely delete the alias command.

2024-08-20 07:05

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The reason that they aren't doing this is to explicitly allow things like this below, where no actions are being automated. This is not cheating. alias +pafi "+attack; cl_crosshair_recoil true" alias -pafi "-attack; cl_crosshair_recoil false" bind mouse1 "+pafi"

2024-08-20 07:48

this

2024-08-20 09:27

I was worried that vac-net was so dissmissed on the last post, lol how wasnt it blowing already. And no vacnet 3.0 is not only for detecting binds cause it says vacnet 3.0 can cancel a match but snap-tap should only get you kicked from the session...

2024-08-20 01:27

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vacnet is not used to detect binds, but to detect cheaters

2024-08-20 01:55

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thats what im trying to tell ppl in the first post alot of ppl thought its an update that is basically only for binds. vacnet could also have code lines that are including the whole binds detection thing, its not too weird to let it do both

2024-08-20 02:22

valve can use other systems to detect snaptap and binds, they don't need ai for this (vacnet is ai deep learning)

2024-08-20 02:28

I know and still, they could if they want but yea its not necessary

2024-08-20 02:51

Oh please work, I just wanna play with my friends again.

hell yeah

i can't wait to test vacnet 3.0 (my teammate is gonna autobh into enemy spawn and hs through walls)

Not surprised

2024-08-20 07:33

Wait but whats the point of the grunt being heard if you could just hear the jump+landing before along with the sound of the nade pin? Seems kinda unnecessary

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Maybe it's for your teammates to know if you landed it or not

2024-08-20 01:31

Well the grunt is a 100% sound queue to notify the player a jump throw has been performed, a jump sound is a jump sound. Since jump throw is an advantage I guess they want to make the sure it is more known, I'm assuming the sound will be louder than a step.

2024-08-20 01:33

It would make sense if its loud but I still cannot come up with a single scenario where this will affect gameplay in any way. I was thinking about the vertigo A site smokes from ramp but even there opponents are so close they can hear you jump+the grenade pin being pulled

The player is quite vulnerable for a moment after the grunt before he can equip a weapon, so it could be significant in some situations. Merely knowing that a guy threw something instead of just jumping probably isn't of much value except for some very rare occasions when it might reveal a fake or something like that.

Enemies can’t hear the nade pin. Afaik they never could, only the burning of the t molotov.

2024-08-20 09:37

Pretty sure they also hear the pins of flashes and he nades if close

2024-08-20 09:47

2024-08-20 09:51

It is audible. You can even fake the flash sound by perfectly timing the switch button with the flash release button.

2024-08-20 10:17

Nice update about Snaptap(even tho i used snaptap, ggs) but idk about jumpthrows tho. And Vacnet 3.0 ,lets wait and see, if it has any upgrades over the last ones.

2024-08-20 01:35

my brother used the huntsman v3 and i think its better this way. the keystrokes sound so bad, hopefully he returns it and gets an mx red kb.

you can still do regular jumpthrow but w+jumpthrow, crouch w+jumpthrow wont work

2024-08-20 11:25

oh damn didnt knew that one, thanks!

2024-08-20 11:37

So is Vacnet 3.0 a thing to counter binds and hardware binds or is it a completely updated AC?

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I’d say it’s the former. The latter would be advertised heavily by valve to show they actually did something.

Not necessarly cause they know the community will blow it for them also they dont want to say more than whats necessary. If you would have had a match canceled out of nowehre it help to know that its due to tests and changes and it might cancel it incorrectly so u can contact them as they said. if its in tests only for some matches then it makes sense they keep it only as realease notes line so ppl wont think that TODAY IS THE DAY but rather just a step in the right direction

why tf would they need a whole ass AI anticheat for something as easy as counting percent of non overlapping inputs within a tick? Snap tap detection is way easier than you think

2024-08-20 06:59

i think the snaptap detection is "hardcoded" into cs2 and only kicks you from a match i'm 90% sure VacNet 3 should be unrelated to that and just be an updated anti cheat. valve is usually not making a big deal out of things like that but IF they do they do it probably when the testing phase is over

2024-08-20 08:29

Valve will never boast about a functioning anticheat (if they manage to create one someday) because it would completely defeat the purpose. The less they speak about VAC the more efficient VAC is. It's a cat and mouse game. Hackers use informations available to constantly adapt their software to VAC. The more they know, the easier it is for them. That's also why VAC bans work in big irregular waves: so the hackers cannot know exactly what made them detected by VAC. If you ban as fast as you can you will only catch a few before they update the software and be invisible again. Make a wave once or twice a year and you have thousands of babies sending you rage emails because they got VAC banned and you don't even know where you messed up exactly.

2024-08-20 11:14

It's a deep learning ac

If twitter can detect pros using snaptap i dont think they need a whole new version of anticheat for it

2024-08-20 05:51

VACnet and VAC not the same

2024-08-20 08:47

hence the question lol, so what is it?

2024-08-20 08:51

vacnet = AI detection of cheats e.g. aimbot, walls, bhop vac = detection of programs interfering with CS2

2024-08-20 11:01

Yeah ok, so we are at version 3 whatever that means, first time I heard of VACnet.

2024-08-20 11:13

It's been in the game for 7 years now lol.. It autobanned a lot of spinbotters and aimbotters in CSGO, and also in CS2.

Vacnet 3.0 Pog

Vacnet 3.0. Vacnet 2.0 but one line of code updated this game is fucking doomed

vacnet 3.0 = vacnet 2.0 with added junk code

2024-08-20 11:43

tldr do i get kicked temporarily for jumpthrowing an insta smoke for instance?

You won't be kicked if you attempt to use a jumpthrow bind, it just won't work anymore. If you get caught using an external method like a keyboard macro, then that would be cheating.

2024-08-20 07:32

No? Just your binds won't work.

2024-08-20 08:02

I literally get kicked two times from my game after update for using snaptap when I play on my dads old keyboard haha. Valve can’t do anything without doing something wrong

2024-08-20 01:44

Some old keyboards have nullbind. If that's the case, it will be blocked.

2024-08-20 12:56

no snaptap is fine but fym jump throw binds are removed?!????

2024-08-20 01:46

Damn, you gotta learn to actually play the game now. My condolences.

2024-08-20 07:23

Nah man the removal of jump throws is actually stupid. They've been part of the game from ancient times and there isn't a single good reason to remove them.

2024-08-20 09:01

You dont need those binds to keep your level in this game. Trust me.

2024-08-20 09:54

Never used any jump throw bind yet I manage to smoke and flash consistently without any problem. If this basic level of fingers sync is too hard not to be automated for you then you'll have much more important problems to improve your game in other sectors.

2024-08-20 11:16

Good. Snap tap is cheating

2024-08-20 01:50

it's as if, with each update, they're trying to make sure I stop playing this cancer of a game, I started playing on cs 1,3 and I've reached a point where either I'm getting too old for this, or valve is as always, picking the worst possible options. How about fixing what really matters, as in an anticheat that actually WORKS?! no, let's ban jump throw binds instead.,....

2024-08-20 01:56

Ur bad deal with it

2024-08-20 02:07

How? Enlighten me

2024-08-20 02:20

this update literally is adding an updated anticheat

2024-08-20 04:12

How can you update something that doesn't exist? I've never seen a ban live despite the game being plagued by obvious cheaters. It says clearly " on a limited set of matches" anyway

2024-08-20 10:10

I mean jumpthrow isn't cheating or anything, they could at least leave it as it is.

2024-08-20 01:58

If jump throw binds should be allowed, then might as well allow binds to automate pixel perfect lining up of crosshair for throwing smokes with yaw commands since it is not cheating. Allow binding the whole process of lining up crosshair, and jump throwing to a single key while we are at it.

2024-08-20 09:36

RIP G2 snap tap era

2024-08-20 02:11

Era that never happened

The only era I know about them is when they choke on the arena.

2024-08-20 02:29

L update

2024-08-20 02:25

w change W

I'll give this game actually less than two years at this pace, cs2 will be really good by then

2024-08-20 03:08

Little by little there are improvements, I hope it continues like this.

2024-08-20 03:55

A year later they started testing new anti-cheat, lol. Are Valve poor? Don’t they have enough staff and resources?

2024-08-20 04:11

I hope it's ai based and so incredibly good at this state that it just works. I don't even play the game but to see VAC succeed for once would be awesome.

2024-08-20 06:40

Idiotic update tbh. No jump throw binds anymore. Imagine being butthurt about overlapping inputs while there are literal cheaters in the game. F you valve

2024-08-20 06:12

Can anyone explain me why script would be needed for jump and release granade? I dont understand. Its too simple to use..

2024-08-20 06:29

It's basically used to eliminate human error for jump throws. Which allows players to land pixel perfect smokes with jumpthrow binds. With this update, that's impossible now and forces everyone to unbind those keys and commands

2024-08-20 07:03

VacNet 3.0 is interesting. Cheaters will still win the cat and mouse game, but if valve will use ai to stop it, that will eventually change imo.

2024-08-20 06:38

nice

Why jumpthrow binds were a big deal? Didn't Valve just made jumpthrow into feature with CS2's release?

2024-08-20 09:16

Because people used binds to do running jump throws for example and not just standing jump throws

2024-08-20 09:53

So now the keyboard manufactures gonna make the input random, so noobs can use this feature is my second guess...

Valve can count to 3 omg. Maybe it will be some revolution. Definitely better than doing nothing

2024-08-20 10:13

I've been using scripts and binds for 10 years, I can't imagine playing without them. Thank you but I don't play it anymore! Do everything in the menu now, SMART PEOPLE

570 elo after 10 years is crazy

2024-08-20 10:31

Actually insane :)))))))

2024-08-20 10:47

You didn't check how long I've been playing on this account

2024-08-20 12:25

Launch the vac-updated worldwide right away, and then replay ence vs. kONO (would be fun to see if they'd dare to use their current cheats)

2024-08-20 10:43

50 kills in 12 rounds and 4.0 rating hltv seems normal to VAC

2024-08-20 11:02

If vacnet is at v3.0, does it mean we've had an ac the entire time?:d

2024-08-20 11:18

Cmon ... Add the jumpthrow bind and we will all be happy :)

2024-08-20 11:22

I haven't used a jumpthrow bind in my life and learned to do it the manual way. If that is too hard for you then maybe valorant is a better game for you.

2024-08-20 11:59

this is such ragebait if you didnt have bind in csgo u never coildve even thrown a window smoke on mirage

2024-08-21 01:46

We might actually see some investment into anti-cheat, valve is about to release a new multiplayer game (deadlock) that will use VAC, it's also not server-authoratative like dota2 so it will likely be the same shitshow as CS2 if nothing is done.

2024-08-20 12:01