rikz: "The best version [of paiN] is a top five team in the world"

rikz believes the amount of tournaments paiN have been playing in recent times has left the team feeling tired, but he has faith in their peak level.

rikz said paiN's decision making cost them in their series against Eternal Fire

Despite being ranked higher and slight favourites heading into the matchup, paiN slipped to an 0-2 defeat against Eternal Fire to exit BetBoom Dacha Belgrade in fourth place.

Whilst they are certainly a young team whose stock is trending upwards, paiN have found themselves short of European opposition on multiple occasion in recent months, also dropping out of IEM Cologne to G2 and BLAST Fall Showdown to FaZe.

Henrique "⁠rikz⁠" Waku gave an interview to talk to HLTV about paiN's loss to Eternal Fire, what he thinks is holding his team back from taking the next step, and the peak level he thinks they can hit six months from now.

If you cannot see the SoundCloud embed below, you can listen to the interview here.


What do you think went wrong for you in that series?

I think we had bad decisions on Inferno. We won both pistols but in the middle of the rounds we kinda made bad decisions, like when we are getting too much pressure on the CT side we need to ask for help and communicate better, and we didn't do that. We had banana control in a lot of rounds, but we couldn't make it good for the team, we couldn't express it in winning rounds for us.

We were playing too slow, we lost two rounds in a row to the round timer, so we needed to play fast sometimes, think faster and take action, not wait for the IGL to call something. We needed to be more proactive individually, everybody, we needed to take spaces faster, and then have more calm to execute in the final part of the round.

Do you think it was mental, do you think there was pressure and that's what caused the problem?

I think that we had psychological or mental problems today. It's not a usual thing, I think we are all tired because of all the time we are in Europe traveling and playing. Since the player break we are playing tournaments every week, in Brazil and in Europe, and then you reach a time that your mental is not strong enough. We reached that today, but we will reset and come back stronger.

Do you think that's a general disadvantage for your team, the fact you are from Brazil and have to come to Europe to play?

Yeah, we are definitely sad about that. One time we lost in Cologne and we were at the airport with the team that lost at the same time as us. They were taking the plane and they said in two hours they would be at their home, and we were thinking that we would be at home in two days, so we will return to practice in three days. You are losing days and hours from practice, and this holds us back a little.

I don't think that's the main reason, the main reason is that we have a lot of tournaments because we are not ESL partners or partners with any others, so we have to play a lot of small tournaments to be invited, we need to play everything that comes our way. That makes us a little tired in the end.

rikz thinks paiN need to start being more selective in the tournaments they attend

What do you think your team needs to do, from your point of view as the coach, to take that next step and be a little bit more consistent, and beat some of the better teams in Europe?

First of all, I think we need to continue doing what we are doing. I believe we are a very strong team with a huge organization, and congrats to them all for that. To improve I think we need to start choosing not to play some tournaments, and have more practice.

What do you see as the peak level that your paiN team can reach? Where do you see the best version of paiN being?

I think the best version is a top five team in the world, because we have a lot of young players, nqz is like 18 or 19, snow is 17, everybody came from academy or lower-tier teams. I don't know yet, but we certainly aim for the higher spot.

How long do you think it will take you to get there? Because like you say, you have a lot of young players, so how long before you hit your top level?

I think the top level of us is like six months away. We have been together about a year without snow, and with snow for four or five months. I think we need six more months and we will be ready and have a great map pool.

Looking forwards, particularly towards the Major, what sort of goals have you set for the team?

Yeah, we want to go to the playoffs. At the last Major we were missing out on one match to go to the playoffs, we lost against the champions NAVI and were 2-2 in the Legends Stage, so of course we need to improve a little. Our goal is to go to the playoffs.

Brazil Henrique 'rikz' Waku
Henrique 'rikz' Waku
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These teams thinking they are top 5 material. Lols
2024-08-31 17:31
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lol, lmao even
2024-08-31 17:32
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the best version without those players
2024-08-31 17:32
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#5
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Spain mavericko19
They almost lost to VP in the previous game What is blud talking about? :/
2024-08-31 17:33
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nah maybe top 20, but not top 5 lmao
2024-08-31 17:33
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They're already top 20... probably even top 15 judging by recent results
2024-08-31 21:07
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Pain is probably the most map-played team over the last three months in top 20 (maybe even 30)
2024-08-31 17:34
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Brazil and delusion will never stop being an iconic duo
2024-08-31 17:34
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Comoros Zerua
Might be a feasible goal going forward but today EF showed there's lots of work paiN guys gotta put.
2024-08-31 17:39
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bro???? wtf you aren't even top 15 at your best
2024-08-31 17:42
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they are #14 now kid
2024-08-31 17:44
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VP is #7 right now, do you think they are the best 7th team in the world? dont be silly, and think before talking
2024-08-31 17:45
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Norb 1 major >
2024-08-31 17:47
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devilwalker>monesy with your perspective
2024-08-31 17:47
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As a player hell no , leader maybe
2024-08-31 17:53
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so with your perspective pain > EF one of them is #14, and EF is #19. Also you think VP>liquid/mongolz/EF
2024-08-31 17:59
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4 replies
Outside the top 10-30 change with one event so no
2024-08-31 18:08
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so pain,nip, 3dmax =top15 okay, give me another joke pls
2024-08-31 18:18
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2024-08-31 19:13
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#42 pain nowhere top15
2024-08-31 19:22
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currently there are about 15 teams that could be #7 in the ranking, the TOP 6 is at an extremely higher level than the rest, from the TOP 7 to the TOP 20 it's basically the same level
2024-08-31 18:06
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so 9z pain nip > astralis,liquid, mongolz hmmmmm okay
2024-08-31 18:17
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no bro, that's not it... pay attention Any of these teams can beat each other, depending on the moment, the only teams that are consistent throughout all the season are the TOP 6 VP reached #7 doing good campaigns, 9z can do it too, Liquid too, Mongolz too, EF too, even Pain (if they keep improveing)... and many others can do it from #7 to #20 they are all very similar levels
2024-08-31 18:23
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except for liquid none of them can reach #7 without playoff on EPL/major, it is impossible for other 12 teams
2024-08-31 18:23
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top5 not but top7 doable because VP #7 wich makes zero sense
2024-08-31 17:43
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bros won one map against faze and mouz (both OT) and think they are a top 5 team now 😭
2024-08-31 17:45
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That's why he said they are in their "best" version, not that they belong to the top 5. He believes peak performance matches the average of the top 5. It's like being a racer and stating that your best laps match the best laps of other drivers, but the consistency is not enough to finish the race.
2024-09-02 16:53
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Canada swagcrazy
Yeah furia and pain both top 5 #soon twitter ban will save brazil cs
2024-08-31 17:46
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2024-08-31 17:49
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TOP 5 is tough, but TOP 7 is literally free now... if VP is TOP 7, many other teams can be, including Pain (if they keep improving)
2024-08-31 17:52
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Poland Manona
this sounds like average hltv post
2024-08-31 17:55
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XDD
2024-08-31 17:57
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Germany phillo283
You will not become top 5 when you beat almost top 10 teams. They play good CS and can maybe take a win here and there, but they are far away from a consistent top Tier 1 Team.
2024-08-31 17:59
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RonaldoC | 
Canada Art9
not even top 10
2024-08-31 18:04
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It's kind of crazy to think that people doubt Pain. Pain is among the best organizations in America and has a very well qualified staff that goes beyond the 5 players and coach. About 1 and a half years ago they gave up playing in a Pro League to completely overhaul the team. At that moment, even the Brazilians questioned whether their vision was correct and they proved to us that they were right. In a short time with the team, results began to appear and they quickly began to take the lead in the South American scene, considering that Furia was going through a turbulent period. After the beautiful campaign in the Major this team was already very solid against many top 7-20 hltv teams and that is a fact, just look at the data. When Rikz says they can reach the top 5-7 I don't doubt it. There is a very strong sigergy between him, Bigu and Pain and the young players who are there follow them. And it's great when a coach has an active voice in implementing his ideas.
2024-08-31 18:18
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L
2024-08-31 19:20
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Brazil choquo
People, he means that paiN can reach the top 5 SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, not that they are top 5 material right now, for those who didn't get it That's a reasonable goal, paiN are a young team with very hard-hitting players, good work ethic and an investment compatible with such high ambitions.
2024-08-31 18:16
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haha no they cant, i cheer for them of course, but they will never be top 5. Stop being delusional
2024-08-31 18:43
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How is that impossible, brother? The team has literally only been getting better results with each championship. vsf po
2024-08-31 19:30
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Brazil choquo
Having ambition is not being delusional lol rikz has set a reasonable goal based on how his team has performed so far. paiN HAVE shown great potential, with hard work and a bit of luck it is foreseeable to see them plying their trade among the tier S in six months from now or something No sense in cheering for them if you don't even believe they're capable of realizing their full potential I'm glad paiN believe in themselves and are aiming high, they've earned it
2024-08-31 19:37
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Do you really belive Pain will be on the level of Faze,Navi,Vitality,G2,Spirit in 6 months?????????
2024-09-01 02:43
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Brazil choquo
I don't know. I'm glad they believe they can, though
2024-09-02 15:30
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Delusional
2024-08-31 18:16
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Sweden Vrede
well top 1 BR team
2024-08-31 18:21
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dont use drugs kids
2024-08-31 18:22
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If every team is at their best version then you would be top 50 bro
2024-08-31 18:30
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when you win 3 games in a row and you feel you will win the next major lol
2024-08-31 18:33
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Delusion
2024-08-31 18:35
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Maybe top 5 in Bra71L
2024-08-31 18:51
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how many brazilian teams are thinking that they can be top5..
2024-08-31 18:54
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#82
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Brazil mrschagas
Furia and pain
2024-09-01 17:39
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#51
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Cxzi | 
United States justice_for_cxzi
delululululu
2024-08-31 18:57
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#52
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Poland YummyCS
Are they going to sign Vitality roster?
2024-08-31 18:58
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
maybe with n1ssim and 5 months
2024-08-31 19:10
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Germany kunar2k
0/8
2024-08-31 19:16
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#57
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Sweden skorpan
Hybris … for what?
2024-08-31 19:18
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United States tkzx71
Brazilians really think that they are specials hahahaha top 5 team, not here not even in China hahahaha
2024-08-31 19:19
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if was saying top 10 is acceptable but top 5 haha
2024-08-31 19:23
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Was going to say this, I'd give Top-10 a fair chance but Top-5.... nah. They've been looking far better with snow for sure but Top-5 is pushing it too far still. But yea we have currently SAW at top-10 spot so yea everything is possible. :D
2024-08-31 21:11
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very funny guy :D
2024-08-31 19:30
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Europe kuu1
They just got clapped by some random Turks. They are barely top 5 in Bra71l.
2024-08-31 23:07
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Gimme some of what he's on
2024-09-01 01:10
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HAHAHHAHA bro, from 0 to 100 in 1 sec.
2024-09-01 01:56
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Pain is an insane team. I really believe in them... as a 9z fan, they are a very scary team, very young players already showing up. Underrated team, will make many bettors mad.
2024-09-01 15:43
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