3DMAX core free to leave club before RMR

16-9-2024 14:22

The contracts of four 3DMAX players currently end two days before the RMR begins in Shanghai.

Maka and company signed for 3DMAX in November 2023

Four 3DMAX players are set to have their deals expire on November 15, according to information posted by French leaker Sebastien "⁠KRL⁠" Perez and confirmed by HLTV's own sources.

If new contracts are not signed, that would make the world No.19 enter the November 17 European RMR and potentially lucrative Major and sticker cycle without an organization.

Perfect World Shanghai Major RMR team list finalized

The newest addition to the squad, 20-year-old Filip "⁠Graviti⁠" Brankovic, is the exception with a deal stretching to February. He would have to be bought out from 3DMAX if the players wished to stay together as an orgless team or sign with a new club.

KRL has also reported that 3DMAX have previously been late in their payments of players' salary, allegations he detailed on November 16.

The 3DMAX organization have been here before, when Bryan "⁠Maka⁠" Canda was among the team that departed in 2019 citing broken promises from board level.

Former coach Adrien "⁠killazoo⁠" Legarda, who departed in April 2024, said on Twitter that this applied to former staff including himself and Italian analyst Carmine "⁠Fisic0⁠" Lorusso.

3DMAX's current management was approached for comment but did not respond before the article's publication.

The core of 3DMAX have played together for three years, dating back to their days as the unsigned DBL PONEY. The players also experienced payment troubles with HEET before signing to the revived French organization at the start of 2024.

While under 3DMAX, Maka's side have maintained their place in the top 30 and won Skyesports Championship 2024 on LAN over The MongolZ.

3DMAX are currently:

Bryan "⁠Maka⁠" Canda
Lucas "⁠Lucky⁠" Chastang
Thomas "⁠Djoko⁠" Pavoni
Pierre "⁠Ex3rcice⁠" Bulinge
Filip "⁠Graviti⁠" Brankovic

Damien "⁠wasiNk⁠" Dufour (coach)

DBL Poney stickers I beg.

2024-09-16 14:24

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I need Djoko gold sticker on my Deagle

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ldlc or team envy?

2024-09-16 14:33

this team can't catch a break

2024-09-16 14:23

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well in this case, the roster is still guaranteed to go to the major. TOs take responsibility for everything regarding transport and hotels for all the teams invited. but yeah.. their salary is not safe..

2024-09-16 15:39

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Guaranteed? They need to qualify first :D

2024-09-16 20:48

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yeah i mean the RMR are still in China, in front of a crowd, with great teams.. of course sticker money isn't guaranteed, but RMR is. And that alone is big.

2024-09-16 21:05

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How much do teams make off of RMR alone?

2024-09-16 21:33

kinda talking out of my ass for that.. but I think it's zero prize pool. the first prize pool is 10k in opening stage.

2024-09-16 21:52

No no, i think you are right. TO pays for everything. Flight, hotels etc. No prize pool. But qualification results in millions, so yeah

2024-09-17 14:29

nice

karmine corp?

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Its impossible , if I remember Kameto say that he dont want to have a CS team

2024-09-16 14:27

he does but he wants a team that can actually win a match vs a top team. this team is not it

2024-09-16 15:19

Having stickers in game is a good move to start a project, they still can make a better lineup after that

2024-09-16 15:35

Gotta do what vitality did - pick up the team then find the next zywoo to round it out

2024-09-16 16:42

Zywoo was part of the team since the beginning, he was part of the lineup that apex had proposed to Neo, the CEO of Vitality

2024-09-16 16:51

or gentle m8s

2024-09-16 14:41

Kameto, the CEO of Karmine Corp, recently said that for the moment the organisation was not yet ready to come to Counter-Strike, as it would require a new financial effort and more structuring.

2024-09-16 15:25

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This is bullshit. The 3DMax organization doesn't have a lot of money, and no sponsors, and despite that they were able to have the lineup for several months. Almost all the players are free, and graviti's buyout is very low, it would cost them almost nothing to have this team, and it would allow them to have a first team qualified for the major, while waiting to be more ambitious afterwards.

2024-09-16 16:13

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The 3DMAX example isn't really relevant when you see that they still end up with debts and unpaid bills. Nevertheless, it's not the cost of a roster like 3DMAX that worries KC and Kameto, it's mainly the need to restructure the org better to welcome the team with a good coaching staff (all of which inevitably becomes more expensive) and a good place for bootcamp (currently, the offices in Paris and Berlin don't have the space to accommodate a new full-time roster). The aim is not to repeat some of the mistakes of the past by letting a roster manage itself.

2024-09-16 17:13

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They have debts because no sponsors, no money coming in, nothing. This is not the case with the KC, quite the contrary. In terms of good coaching staff, Wasink is already there and seems like he's doing a very good job. Buying this lineup is a golden opportunity, the possibility of having your IG stickers from the first weeks of the structure's existence on the scene, it's the kind of opportunity for which you can modify your plans. And once again nothing obliges them to sign long contracts with the team if they want to change their ambition after the Shanghai major. Maka is a huge KC fan, he would sign for them even on a short contract, without a doubt.

2024-09-16 17:48

I'm not saying it's not a good opportunity, I want to see KC on CS, I've been a fan of the org since its inception and CS should clearly be the next game to go to, but if Kameto says they've had to turn down certain projects including Double Poney and Looking4Org, it's because they're really not ready at the moment, especially with the arrival in LEC this year. But who knows, maybe we'll get a surprise at the KCX4 event.

2024-09-16 17:56

I really hope so. I'm not a KC fan, but the French scene needs their presence on CS. When I see all the rosters they signed for the ESWC, I would find it amazing that they wouldn't try their luck for an opportunity like this.

2024-09-16 17:57

In fact, it was during an ESWC stream that Kameto said that it was too early for CS and Rainbow Six and that the org wasn't ready. And if they'd ever taken rosters on those games, it wouldn't have been great. But I have to admit now that you won't find the 3DMAX opportunity again, especially with their current ranking and the possibility of getting stickers (fans will buy massively).

2024-09-16 18:05

Kamel's words I interpret as: "we are not ready to be ambitious on these games". KC always wants to be at the top, it's normal given Kamel's mentality, so I completely understand that they want to be able to aim for the very high level in CS. But for me, the 3DMax opportunity would allow them to get a foothold in the game, to potentially have significant income via stickers, and then to be able to set up a structure allowing them to have greater ambitions. We'll see what happens anyway, but it would be a shame if they're being overtaken by structures like M8 or BDS. We'll see how it goes anyway, I'm crossing my fingers that they find a good structure, they deserve it.

2024-09-16 18:09

We know that it will be hard to become ambitious directly on CS so I agree with you 3DMAX, it is the opportunity not to be missed. Moreover, François "Cnd" Balembois had been consulted for a potential arrival on CS, he confirmed that he had put on the table three projects for KC: win right away (impossible), win very quickly (complicated) or build like Mouz with trading (good but long term project).

2024-09-16 18:22

they can take 3DMAX coaching staff, overall the team's payroll must cost 30/40K monthly, it's not a big expense

2024-09-17 10:59

Yeah, but you've also got to bear in mind that KC has just entered in LEC (closed league) on League of Legends, so the costs have been significant. I hope we'll have a surprise at KCX4 (the KC's annual event) on 9 November. That's just a few days before the end of the 3DMAX players' contracts.

2024-09-17 15:34

wth is b\o?

2024-09-16 14:25

buyout

2024-09-16 14:26

Buyout

body odor

2024-09-16 14:34

has has no time to type buyout his keyboard, what a time manager

2024-09-16 14:48

Lets go KC! Your round!

Nice

Make Vitality french again?

talking like thats a good thing

2024-09-16 14:31

i didnt say its a good thing :)

2024-09-16 14:36

KC Casséééééééééééééééééééééééééééééé

NO I WANTED 3DMAX STICKERS MANNNN

2024-09-16 14:28

Why would any of these players but Maka especially sign with 3dmax again??? It'd be like NA players resigning with denial and getting scammed for the 4th or so time

2024-09-16 14:30

Welp, they got here with org support and now they're free to get sticker money without letting an org take a cut of the pie. Plus 3DMax owes them. Honestly seems like the perfect unfortunate circumstance if they can qualify to the major. They'd 100% be picked up after that anyway.

idk about that men, I'm sure BNE players had the same situation no? they were orgless for 2 years and qualified for 2 majors and nobody picked them up during those years.

2024-09-16 15:49

From what I heard was that they were getting offers, they just never accepted any until the guild team

2024-09-17 06:11

Vitality save maka ffs

2024-09-16 14:32

Zywoo p250 > maka awp

2024-09-16 14:42

-messi/spinx +maka Zywoo finally gets his star roles back and can be full time star rifler with even more impact

2024-09-16 15:42

love maka but buds getting old

2024-09-17 01:29

Dude I have been waiting and cheering for 3dmax since the start of the year

Titan to re-enter CS and sign this roster

would be smart move, ez money

no, because titan is dead, and someone needs to buy their brand to revive it

2024-09-16 15:02

i mean whats the problem to create new org called "Titan" lol. u can literally create same stickers, they original owners cant do shit

2024-09-16 15:29

lmao it doesn’t work like that my friend

2024-09-16 18:21

call it Tighten with the same logo but inverted

2024-09-17 01:31

Envy or LDLC to re-enter cs and sign the squad would be great

2024-09-16 14:39

LDLC doesn't exist any more, but considering who owns Envy now... ...we're getting OpTic stickers for Shanghai aren't we ffs at least let Gentle Mates sign them

Who owns envy?

2024-09-16 16:33

OpTic

2024-09-18 01:49

neither org still exists

2024-09-16 16:05

Need Titan sticker!

ENCE buy em

2024-09-16 14:44

They don’t have money

2024-09-16 15:04

did you read the article?

2024-09-16 16:14

Yes, on top of a buyout for Graviti they would have to pay salaries to these guys, not to mention ENCE have already got a roster.

2024-09-16 16:23

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30k buy out is nothing lol. they got way WAAAAAAAY more for selling sunpayus, snappi and nertz(only maden left as free agent). and ofc that they would have to pay salaries...they were able to pay players players like spinx, sunpayus or nertz who were great up and comming players so they would definitely be able to pay those guys... and so what that they have a team atm? that team is going nowhere. ence will blow this team up sooner or later and having core of decent team that has rmr spot for literally 30k is really good option for them that they definitely can afford

2024-09-16 16:32

Paying for 2 rosters is not the same as paying for one, not to mention that they signed new roster 9 months ago and if 3DMax guys won’t qualify for Shanghai ENCE would be stuck with both rosters.

2024-09-17 01:44

sdy said they are waiting for roster changes. This team will get nowhere. Ence will get rid of atleast 3 players.

2024-09-17 01:51

Roster changes doesn't mean 5 new players and a coach.

2024-09-17 02:57

jesus they would obviously get rid of the first roster...

2024-09-17 02:12

They all have contractual obligations and the org will have to pay regardless. Bench 5 players and a new coach, in order to sign 6 more people without any guarantee of qualifying for the Major? This would be as stupid as EG with their 3 rosters.

2024-09-17 03:07

benched players have reduced salary and i highly doubt that they gave those players some long term contracts...+they would try to sell them ofc. im not saying that they will do that btw. the only point was that they can definitely afford to sign 3Dmax team/core if they would want to

2024-09-17 05:44

i mean 3DMAX would be dumb not to try to resign right, they have a decent chance to make the major i would say

2024-09-16 14:53

3DMAX owes money to players

2024-09-16 15:01

yikes didnt know that

They've been really unlucky as HEET owes them money as well.. Same case scenario with 3DMAX...

2024-09-16 15:21

holy crap, dang they should just pull a BNE and qualify for the major by themselves at this point

2024-09-16 15:40

bruh

2024-09-16 14:55

Easiest sricker money ever???

2024-09-16 14:59

OG should sign these guys immediately.

So sick of this French "leaker"

2024-09-16 15:09

? why

It's good for the players, now they can negotiate nice salaries paid on time. 3d's fault for showing such amateurism

2024-09-16 18:12

please org "FRIES" hire the dudes

2024-09-16 15:20

One option could be for them to create their own company and structure just to cash-in the stickers money entirely

2024-09-16 15:22

skinCLUB sticker inc

2024-09-16 15:32

alot of money here

2024-09-16 15:36

Holy shit they are gonna be poached hard

2024-09-16 15:46

I kinda doubt it. Maka's the only one who has been super exceptional, the others are solid but tend to pick up each others' slack. For example, if Lucky has a bad game Djoko steps up, but no one else is very consistent. They're a good team, but individually idk if anyone is worth it

2024-09-16 16:09

Give us the DBL Poney stickers we were so hoping for 3 years ago

2024-09-16 15:57

nobody wants to sign these players or give them org

2024-09-16 16:00

Maka to fnatic after major

2024-09-16 16:06

Hltvers told that KRL was a fake leaker, and it turns out most of his informations are at least partially right chokbar

2024-09-16 16:22

KRL gets called out for not having scoops but most of his news ends up being right xd the only big thing he got wrong was Twistzz to Vitality but that sounded real plausible

2024-09-17 04:38

yes, and for twitzz i'm convinced there were talks, it finally did not happen, but that does not mean there was no talk ...

2024-09-17 17:03

BDS

2024-09-16 16:50

Ok, I'm now praying for DBL Poney Stickers

2024-09-16 17:04

why did the 7k student loan comment get deleted, that was an incredible comment

2024-09-16 17:07

LDLC come back

2024-09-16 17:53

Back to looking 4 org

2024-09-16 18:16

Ence getting another short term lineup just to get sticker money :D

2024-09-16 19:24

New Titan stickers incoming

2024-09-16 20:08

They are decent and still might be improved for cheap money. On the other hand they struggled to win a lot of lower tier tournaments.

2024-09-16 20:30

LDLC back?

2024-09-16 21:59

LDLC's eSport subsidiary no longer exists : esportsinsider.com/2023/05/team-ldlc-cea..

2024-09-17 01:05

Damn... thanks for the info tough

2024-09-17 03:42

The new ENCE roster incoming. They make the RMRs after all. lol

2024-09-16 22:08

I love reading these news. These clowns are getting lifetime karma for fixing so many matches. Hopefully the bad luck continues and they start working at McDonalds already

2024-09-17 00:52

Man these boys are just so unlucky, I feel so bad for them, first they're orgless under DBL PONEY for so long, then they get into HEET, money issues, everything, again orgless, then they're in 3DMAX, again monesy issues and everything. Hopefully some good org picks them up because they really aren't a bad team, maybe a bit inconsistent, but not bad for sure, who knows how far they can go if they don't have to stress about money and other shit. GL boys!

2024-09-17 14:49