jL on taking a break: "There weren't a lot of conditions that would have made me stay"

The Lithuanian spoke about the addition of makazze, how NAVI might slot him into jL's roles, and spoke about roster changes on HLTV Confirmed.

Fresh from the announcement of his break from competition, Justinas "⁠jL⁠" Lekavicius joined Chad "⁠SPUNJ⁠" Burchill and Milan "⁠Striker⁠" Švejda on the latest episode of HLTV Confirmed to discuss his plans moving forward, Natus Vincere's addition of Drin "⁠makazze⁠" Shaqiri, recent roster moves, and more.

The Lithuanian began by elaborating on the reasoning for his break, explaining he wanted more time to explore other things in life, make time for his wife, and start a family without the constant time commitment required in tier-one.

"Tier-one requires a lot of sacrifice, a lot of hours," jL explained. If you actually want to be the best, or one of the best, it requires, I don't know, 12 hours per day. And if you're not doing 12 hours per day you're doing something wrong and you're not on top of your game.

"I just wanted to live a little. I wanted to try drifting, content creation, I want to spend time with my wife, I want to make a family. Those are the main things."

The Lithuanian was asked if there were any conditions under which he would have continued playing, to which he said there was one but said he wouldn't elaborate. When asked whether it was winning the Austin Major, jL was quick to respond.

"I feel like if we won the Major, I would have just fucking retired (laughs). Okay, that was a bit of an overexaggeration, but... yeah, there weren't a lot of conditions that would have made me stay."

jL then discussed his plans for content creation, ranging from YouTube videos to streaming, before the conversation turned to makazze, his replacement on Natus Vincere.

"The things that I know are not very nice," jL began when asked whether he knows much about makazze. "I saw a tweet about him on Twitter. I didn't speak to him, I don't know much about him, but the only thing I know is that he shouted at some randoms on FACEIT.

"I know he's a good player, I played against him many times and he's shooting very well, but other than that I don't know much about him."

The panel then discussed how makazze would slot into the team, considering he overlaps roles with both jL and Mihai "⁠iM⁠" Ivan, to which jL said he had no insight but speculated that the Kosovar would take most of jL's roles rather than map control ones.

The Lithuanian added that this initial period would be used to learn from iM and then take over his roles in the future, leaving the Romanian free to move to jL's roles instead.

jL was also asked about Falcons and their addition of Maxim "⁠kyousuke⁠" Lukin, to which he expressed concern about the balance of roles.

"The role clash, that's first, and I don't feel like their team has a good balance of performance players and team players, like synergy. But okay, maybe they will be a rare example of not needing team synergy to win tournaments and win games, maybe they'll just have enough firepower and star players to win games."

Later in the show, jL gave his thoughts on recent roster moves from G2, Spirit, and FURIA, Natus Vincere's attempt to target David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský, as well as touched on recent news alongside the panel. You can watch the whole episode here.

Russia Maxim 'kyousuke' Lukin
Maxim 'kyousuke' Lukin
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
260
KPR:
0.86
DPR:
0.71
Kosovo Drin 'makazze' Shaqiri
Drin 'makazze' Shaqiri
Age:
18
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
390
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.71
Australia Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
167
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.73
Czech Republic Milan 'Striker' Švejda
Milan 'Striker' Švejda
Age:
32
Rating 1.0:
1.30
Maps played:
11
KPR:
0.90
DPR:
0.64
Lithuania Justinas 'jL' Lekavicius
Justinas 'jL' Lekavicius
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
908
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
Romania Mihai 'iM' Ivan
Mihai 'iM' Ivan
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1241
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
Slovakia David 'frozen' Čerňanský
David 'frozen' Čerňanský
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1694
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.63
#2
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Poland Kubaa501
if iM really would play jL roles, he can get very good rating
2025-07-15 00:45
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#12
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Australia hoangii
iM was going to be benched but jL is a hero and "Stepped down" so his teammate didnt lose his job jL is a good man
2025-07-15 00:52
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#22
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Zimbabwe KennyKEX
nt lmao
2025-07-15 01:19
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3 replies
#31
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Cyprus Komutan
video private wtf, fix pls @Striker @Professeur @JNUPS @Nohte
2025-07-15 02:03
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2 replies
Ban in 3..2..1..
2025-07-15 21:15
0
1 reply
#74
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Cyprus Komutan
why ban
2025-07-15 23:23
0
rage bait of the day
2025-07-15 01:28
23
2 replies
#29
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
if saying jL is a good man makes you angry you need to rethink your life choices
2025-07-15 01:57
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#42
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Germany KilianFirebolt
its hltv forums what did you expect
2025-07-15 03:20
2
even if iM was supposed to be on the chopping block, the moment jL said in a public interview he'd lost motivation after having won the major he deserved it more
2025-07-15 15:07
0
3 replies
#76
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
yeah but thats the thing, jL didnt get benched he "stepped down" dont you forget that
2025-07-16 00:36
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2 replies
you've never seen someone about to get fired resign?
2025-07-16 12:30
0
1 reply
#78
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
Seen it? Nope Heard about it though But in this case jL didnt get benched he stepped down. It was his choice
2025-07-16 12:51
0
i think iM has way better roles than jL does now
2025-07-15 01:31
6
i thought makazze would get those no?
2025-07-15 02:35
1
his career is done
2025-07-15 00:45
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#10
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
MATYS | 
Slovakia ryderawr
bro went from tier 200 to apeks, got to major semis, went to navi, won a major, won major mvp, hltv top#4 (?) and decided to bench himself not bad last 2-3 years tbh if he feels like he deserved a break then he should have it, hes a fun personality so stream-wise he can be ok he wants a family which is acceptable
2025-07-15 00:49
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Bro just made the avarage guy dream run, Prove to be one of the best really fast, grab some cash and then just fuck around enjoying life without being a no lifer pursuing to be tha goat
2025-07-15 01:05
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Tbh he almost won everything there is. Respect to him and I wish him well.
2025-07-15 01:08
15
2 replies
#19
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Europe kuu1
Yeah, he is only missing Katowice and Cologne, won just about everything else, including that rar...ish Major MVP award.
2025-07-15 01:09
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1 reply
Tbh it’s a good career especially since it was so short. One of the more decorated pros
2025-07-15 01:10
6
cool, his career is done anyway also this narrative that he benched himself is funny
2025-07-15 01:56
5
4 replies
exactly
2025-07-15 20:36
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#81
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Finland LuboDai
If it came from iM it might be, but it's not exactly a state secret that jL was the best performer in NaVi for the past 2 years. So why would it be funny?
2025-07-17 09:10
0
2 replies
his ego is too big to admit he got benched
2025-07-17 13:14
0
1 reply
#89
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Finland LuboDai
Take it as you like but NaVi would've made an announcement like any other org with any other person if that was the case. Rent free in your head though
2025-07-17 16:27
0
how does everyone just love him all of a sudden fun personality? last it was that was super fake, toxic petty personality or whatev
2025-07-15 02:33
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#45
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Slovakia GloryMole
The haters are just louder, there is a lot less of them. People who enjoyed a different personality in the scene won't talk about it as much. Look at LatvianLoser. He makes it seem like there is a whole choir of chanting people, while it's just one guy and his keyboard.
2025-07-15 04:33
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#51
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Ukraine BornToLose
attention seeker as a content creator >>> attention seeker in pro scene
2025-07-15 07:08
2
People enjoy/prefer different things/personalities. Lets say that he is toxic, fake, showman or whatever... yeah for player/teammate, this are probably not the best "qualities", but as for content creator it could be good to be "different" to get some viewership/fanbase, like for example look at Loba.
2025-07-15 07:25
0
#63
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
MATYS | 
Slovakia ryderawr
i never had anything against jL, I always thought hes fun to watch
2025-07-15 11:27
0
#68
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solo | 
World epixeltwin
Rare balanced & nuanced take W
2025-07-15 16:08
1
I already miss him
2025-07-15 00:47
6
interesting to see makazze anchor
2025-07-15 00:47
0
2 replies
#70
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makazze | 
Finland Astraex
Why anchor
2025-07-15 16:41
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#82
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland LuboDai
You're gonna have to wait a few decades for that. Makazze ain't anchoring
2025-07-17 09:14
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#6
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Russia TEMHOMECTO
won't be missed, #NAVINATION
2025-07-15 00:47
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He definitely will be missed
2025-07-15 09:03
11
I mean is make sense, he can be streamer now, less stress, less traveling and etc....probably even same money or maybe a little bit less/more.
2025-07-15 00:48
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#8
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Guam crazyfrog78
just failcons again
2025-07-15 00:48
0
#11
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Australia hoangii
ahhh the classic, i didnt get fired i quit. i didnt get benched i "stepped down"
2025-07-15 00:51
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#15
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Singapore floofy1
his ego would never allow
2025-07-15 00:56
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#64
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donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
Typical jLie
2025-07-15 11:45
2
aah the classic "everyone who leaves a team gets fired and you can't change my mind !11"
2025-07-17 08:18
0
1 reply
#80
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Australia hoangii
it fits his huge ego
2025-07-17 08:50
0
#83
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland LuboDai
:D Yes yes they just wanted to kick their best player for shits and giggles while the guy they took as a replacement plays iM's roles
2025-07-17 09:18
0
5 replies
#84
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Australia hoangii
he wasnt their best player
2025-07-17 09:46
0
4 replies
#85
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Finland LuboDai
But he was though. At least stats wise. Also the big game player of the team
2025-07-17 11:53
0
3 replies
#87
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
He was. But lately has been complete garbage
2025-07-17 13:48
0
2 replies
#88
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland LuboDai
On his standards sure, but pick any year and compare him to any of his teammates and he was still the top performer, regardless of how he played lately
2025-07-17 16:22
0
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#90
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
regardless jL stepped down he didnt get benched. he is a good guy and did it so his teammates didnt lose their job
2025-07-18 00:26
0
#14
Faceit level 6  | 
910 | 
United States fatamerican
hes already doing podcast
2025-07-15 00:56
0
I cant see jL, omg jL out
2025-07-15 00:58
2
""The things that I know are not very nice," jL began when asked whether he knows much about makazze." LOL who is he to judge, being a total douche to everyone.
2025-07-15 01:16
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5 replies
how is he judging?
2025-07-15 01:24
11
2 replies
Being honest and spitting facts is very judgemental because reality itself is.
2025-07-15 01:56
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1 reply
last i heard everyone was complaining about makazze being toxic or sth like that as well lol
2025-07-15 02:34
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#32
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
jL is such a wholesome guy with a fun loving personality. why do people judge and hate him?
2025-07-15 02:03
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#46
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Slovakia GloryMole
Because the same people judge everyone around them as cringe. They like a stale personality which shows no emotions, everything out of the ordinary is a hate crime against the god himself.
2025-07-15 04:36
6
This has pimp "you know I lost so much weight" vibes all over it. 300 articles about how jL got benched and he actually benched himself.
2025-07-15 01:20
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2 replies
funnily enough I've seen more threads about how jL actually got kicked and it's a mossad level coverup by NaVi than articles talking about his self-benching
2025-07-15 01:58
4
Huh? They invite him and ask him about it, not the other way around. The pimp meme originated from him running around and repeating it over and over when nobody asked. I don't see jL doing the same.
2025-07-15 07:36
2
Yeah. Hes not coming back to the competitive scene. Hes done. Shame too. Loved watching him play and hes a fun personality. He will have a lot of success in streaming.
2025-07-15 02:14
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#41
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Russia TEMHOMECTO
success streaming? 0/8
2025-07-15 02:58
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5 replies
Why wouldnt he? Hes charismatic and already has connections with Ohne and dima. He will make bank most likely. Similar to Shroud and Tarik
2025-07-15 03:43
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Shroud might be the least charismatic streamer out there
2025-07-15 08:13
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3 replies
Yet made millions
2025-07-15 09:50
0
2 replies
yeah,and that is crazy
2025-07-15 10:16
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#66
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North America hi_mens))
Well to be fair people didn't watch him for his personality. Say what you will about his skill in CS, his aim translated and adapted extremely well to pretty much every shooter he touched way more than anyone I've ever seen
2025-07-15 14:37
0
his competitive drive to be the best is utterly pathetic, no wonder he had one good run in 2024 and thats that. i generally don't count any early cs2 wins legitamate due to how broken the game was and still kinda is, seems like navi's run falls into that category as well.
2025-07-15 02:34
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#40
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Portugal ReyZ555
bro, cut the bullshit, you are not fooling anyone you know you would get benched so you decided to bench yourself first
2025-07-15 02:51
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#48
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Slovakia GloryMole
Well I kinda get it. NaVi were looking for a change and jL looks like a family man at heart. If he wants to have a child I can imagine him using the opportunity to take care of everything needed while still having a decent salary behind him.
2025-07-15 04:40
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#43
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland Qhasz
W, my bio was a prophecy
2025-07-15 03:29
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#47
Faceit level 4  | 
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Brazil dimasMaluco
bro won everything last year.. MAJOR ... MVP... MONEY.. let him live properly in peace he has done everything in the scene.. he just want to chill and enjoy his family
2025-07-15 04:37
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#49
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Poland BAN_ANIME
hltv users out in full force in comments lmao
2025-07-15 04:43
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#50
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Slovakia GloryMole
yo @hltv why is the video private
2025-07-15 04:45
0
One of the few pros who has the personality to be able to do this and be pretty certain of success. He can stream, make content, do podcasts, even be an analyst, whatever he wants. Good for him for knowing his priorities. Wishing him all the best.
2025-07-15 09:15
0
Quitter
2025-07-15 10:08
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12 hours per day. Unhealthy shit that some delusional ppl call "sport"
2025-07-15 10:15
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#62
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Sweden Vrede
already miss you jLegend, not same vibes in navi i believe..
2025-07-15 10:25
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#65
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
Thanks for carrying NaVi to a major win. Not many people can claim the same. Absolute legend. Enjoy your life
2025-07-15 13:25
2
Drifting? Like he wants to Initial D or did he mean something else?
2025-07-15 16:11
0
Hate him or love him, you watched...that's all you could do. jokes aside he's unironically a navi legend; was instrumental in winning the major and on dominating lots of events in 2024.
2025-07-15 17:55
1
We will miss you legend <3
2025-07-16 00:01
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