ESL Pro League Europe finalized

12-5-2017 00:30

The European division of ESL Pro League has come to a close earlier today with North, G2, mousesports, fnatic, Natus Vincere, and EnVyUs clinching their spots at the $750,000 finals in Dallas.

Over the course of the last three months, 14 teams fought in the European division of ESL Pro League Season 5 for the all-important six spots at the $750,000 finals in Dallas, Texas.

North played a fantastic season, only losing both maps to MOUZ and FaZe while tying three best-of-two's for first place in the division with 19 wins and seven losses. Tomáš "⁠oskar⁠" Šťastný and company had already secured their place at the finals prior to the last round as well, with 16 wins to their name in the end.

Na`Vi grabbed a spot at the finals thanks to a triple-OT win vs. Heroic at the very end of the season

Before today's matches, seven teams were still in the running for the remaining four spots at the finals. Despite a poor start in the season, G2 clinched second place with 16 wins and 10 losses, finishing ahead of MOUZ who had the same record but lost both maps in the head-to-head.

Much like the Frenchmen, fnatic managed to win their last two matches earlier today as well and secured their place at the finals with 15 wins and 11 losses.

In the end, the last two spots were decided via tiebreakers, as four teams finished the season with a 14-12 record following Na`Vi's nail-biting triple-overtime battle with HEROIC in the very last match.

Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev's squad finished first in the four-way tie (5-1 record in matches against the other three) and Envy placed second (3-3 record), leaving the two best teams in the world, FaZe and Astralis (2-4 records), without a spot at the $750,000 tournament in Dallas.

ESL Pro League Season 5 Europe final standings:

1. North - spot at Pro League finals

2. G2 - spot at Pro League finals

3. MOUZ - spot at Pro League finals

4. fnatic - spot at Pro League finals

5. Natus Vincere - spot at Pro League finals

6. Envy - spot at Pro League finals

7. FaZe - $27,000

8. Astralis - $23,000

9. HEROIC - $19,000

10. Ninjas in Pyjamas - $17,500

11. LDLC - $15,000

12. HellRaisers - $11,500 (Relegation Stage)

13. Virtus.pro - $8,000 (Relegation Stage)

14. Kinguin - $4,000 (relegated to ESEA Premier S25)

As outlined above, Kinguin have been relegated to ESEA Premier Season 25 following their last-place finish in the season, while Virtus.pro and HellRaisers are to play relegation matches against BIG and PENTA, respectively.

The North American division of ESL Pro League Season 5 will also come to a close in just a few hours, when we will learn the other six names that will take part in the league's finals taking place from May 31 to June 4.

Rip FAZE and ASSTRALIS

2017-05-12 00:31

19 replies

Fnaticbest

2017-05-12 00:32

hahaha RIP #1 and 2# spots, sweet the short while it lasted

2017-05-12 00:50

3 replies

Being in #1 spot for 4.5 months is quite a long time.

2017-05-12 00:56

Hey g2 is good somewhat

2017-05-17 02:50

1 reply

already said it. I think g2 is the real #1 in EU despite the rank and achievements not showing it, yet

top2 hltv not even qualify for EPL finals

2017-05-12 02:46

7 replies

it's a tier 2 tournament now.

2017-05-12 11:15

2017-05-12 12:51

still t1 tournament Teams that don't deserve their spot in the ranking

2017-05-12 14:12

There is no such thing as "team x deserves y". You either earn the prize/spot on ranking or you don't. It's real life, there are no consolation prizes for teams that were unlucky.

2017-05-12 19:40

+1, what about top 4? Almost kicked from pro league xD

2017-05-12 12:07

2 replies

HLTV.org should review their parameters to build this ranking

Or you should stop caring so much about online results

2017-05-12 20:02

why envy is higher than faze ?

2017-05-12 11:26

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I think, because nV has a better round difference head to head against FaZe.

2017-05-12 19:04

jeah that is only explanation I came up with.. and is 1 round? :)

2017-05-12 19:10

Seems to be only 1 round, yes ;)

2017-05-12 19:12

unlucky as fuck :/

2017-05-12 20:19

It is explained there in the article. NaVi is 5-1 against the other 3 teams in the tie. NV is 3-3, and the other 2 are 2-4

2017-05-14 01:22

nice

sad that envy took a spot

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Sad or deserved? They did pull off some good wins Ed 2-0 vs astralis

2017-05-12 00:45

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Sure the "worse" teams deserve their spot for having a good run and qualifying, but it just makes for a worse LAN event when you have envyus who won't do shit instead of faze or astralis who are potential winners

2017-05-12 03:31

This

2017-05-12 12:05

You're right, but at the end of the day we can't just tell envy that we are sending astralis to the lan instead of you because they are better even though you qualified.

2017-05-12 12:19

Against jet lagged Astralis,both close games i think

2017-05-12 09:40

#cryisfree

2017-05-12 00:49

2017-05-12 02:51

2017-05-12 07:23

RIP Astralis

NiP <3

damn

Rip Big

rip VP was the same last year with penta, i call BIG will win and ESL will invite VP again

2017-05-12 13:12

You cant get invited, you have to earn your spot in ESL Pro League

2017-05-13 17:37

for 2 years esl invited VP to the game vs Godsent for the last esl pro league spot after VP lost the religation vs Penta

2017-05-13 19:06

Complete bs that teams like NRG/Luminosity will go from NA and FaZe and Astralis two of the best LAN teams won't be going.

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astralis shouldn't have lost to NV then lol, even NA teams aren't that bad

2017-05-12 00:33

lol bo1 online matches are unpredictable

2017-05-12 00:35

they played two matches

2017-05-12 00:41

twice times unpredictable :D

2017-05-12 01:18

Returd

2017-05-12 08:56

Lumi/NRG wouldn't even qualify for EU EPL let alone get a top 6 spot... NV isn't very good but damn side better than all but SK/Liquid/C9. NV qualifying isn't the problem. Number of NA slots is.

2017-05-12 00:37

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Well optic beat Envyus at the summit. Not to mention misfits destroyed navi at the recent dreamhack. Envyus and navi are pretty bad even when compared to NA. And yet they qualified... Shows that astralis just choked

2017-05-12 00:42

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Well i doubt they give a fuck probably sk will win this tournament

2017-05-12 03:40

they are improving...they are still a new team (i'm talking about envyus)

2017-05-12 07:57

yeah improving raping t1 teams online getting destroyed by tier5 teams on LAN

2017-05-12 13:48

they are learning on lan -.-

2017-05-12 15:19

from*

2017-05-12 15:57

and also they never faced tier5 teams on lan they faced: HellRaisers - T3/2 G2 - T2 SK- T1/2 OpTic - T3/2 they faced against teams that are kinda good and lost to them because they were still a new team and easy to read.. as they said they learnt a lot from these lans which will maybe make them improve at their next event which is EPL.. tbh if they did something great on EPL that means they improved.. if they didn't they are just onliners.. let us see.. and then you'll have the right to say onliners for them.

2017-05-13 09:33

LOL, funny how last EPL final was only teams from the NA league. Its not NA's fault EU teams don't perform online at all. Also its not like the EU teams are actually better than the NA teams. SK, Immortals, C9, Optic, Liquid, and maybe even NRG and Misfits are on about the same or a higher level than MouseSports, NV, Na'Vi.

2017-05-12 04:36

Lol, the only teams you mentioned that could go far in tournaments vs EU teams at big tournaments are the first 4. Just because Misfits beat Na'Vi once doesn't mean that they can challenge any EU team at an event yet, and if I have to explain to you how Liquid and NRG are complete dogshit then I don't know what else to say. Anyways, you didn't read his message properly. If you could read between the lines then you'd realise that if there were 8 EU spots then we'd be seeing the 2 best teams in the world competing at this LAN, and no matter what you say, Astralis and FaZe are MILES ahead of Liquid and NRG. Edit: before you angrily reply to me somehow telling me how Liquid and NRG are better than FaZe and Astralis, it should be 8/8 so we can see a 16 team tournament where NA teams can show off their potential if they really have it vs EU teams.

2017-05-12 08:43

And half the teams from the EU side of EPL can't go far at an international tournament. 16 teams is a shit ton for a league finals. Faze and Astralis just need to get their shit together and not lose online games that they should be easily winning. I'd give liquid just as much chance of winning EPL as Na'Vi and Envy. Yeah Liquid isn't amazing, but neither are the majority of the EU teams.

And half the teams from the EU side of EPL can't go far at an international tournament. Yes but a lot of EU teams have shown potential that they can do decently far at an international tournament such as HR, Heroic and North in the past although whether you want to call those flukes or not are debatable. You also have FaZe and Astralis who are currently world-class teams, VP have been bad recently but were good for about 6 months before their little slump as well and no one knows if they're back yet, since they haven't played at a LAN since Starladder and they've won several big tournaments and have gone incredibly far at others even if they've lost them. G2 have also won a LAN and made it to the semis at the other one and tbf to them they lost to Gambit who were the champions there and are a solid team now. You want to make everything seem like a competition as well, I realise that a lot of EU teams in the league are dogshit as well but again, more EU teams have played well at previous big LANs than NA teams have, and that's a fact no matter what you think. And seeming as you love bigging up NA teams a lot, a 16 team tournament would have more prestige than a smaller tournament since the competition there would be far greater than if only 12 teams were there, and if the format was good then the NA teams would get to prove themselves against the best of the EU opposition, and we get to see the good NA teams as well. Best of both worlds.

2017-05-12 16:35

Don't compare mouz to NV and na'vi

2017-05-12 11:58

Debatable.

2017-05-12 07:01

astralis was jetlaged as fuck. my fam has been to australia and trust me after 24hrs travel thru all different timezones makes you exhausted as fuck. my fam was fucked for about a week and a half ^^

yeah but thats because mousesports and envyus qualified. if they cant win their online matches they dont deserve to be there, plain and simple.

2017-05-12 00:34

lol faze and astralis in 1017

1017 is like a thousand years ago. I'm pretty sure they didnt have Counter Strike back then.

maybe really huge delay ? :D

2017-05-12 01:20

maybe Internet Explorer

2017-05-12 14:14

When ESL will learn that 6 spots to NA is waste of time ? Holy shit

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8 EU and 4 NA is definitely more balanced, and allows for the very top of NA against the general best of EU

Also possible but unfair imo. Imagine Astralis and FaZe would have won their matches and mousesports & EnVy wouldn't clinch one of the first six spots. The world would be fine then.

I agree that it's unfair, but there is a general agreement among csgo experts, analysts, and pros themselves (even those from NA) that EU CS players and teams (either strategy wise or aim wise) are generally better than those from NA. I understand your point, but for the sake of a more entertaining tourney, 8 and 4 would definitely be interesting (probably more interesting as an NA fan rooting for four teams out of twelve vs six out of twelve)

2017-05-12 00:47

Might be a good solution and I would love to see how it turns out if ESL would consider making this decision.

2017-05-12 01:17

Very few people actually think it is the individual skill of the players. Its mostly that for one thing the best NA players are split up in to to many different teams a lot of the time and for another that the teams just do not have the level of strategy, coordination, and synergy. Another thing is outside of the top few teams NA and EU are pretty even. Half of the EU teams that did make it to EPL lan are not any better than the NA teams that will make it. Na'Vi, Envy, and Mouse Sports are all arguable worse than or on the same level as the NA teams. Misfits beat Na'Vi, Optic beat Envy, Mouz hasn't played any NA teams since this new roster, but hasn't shown they are above the level of the NA teams that made it.

2017-05-12 05:09

Yea, NA teams achieved some reasonable things in the past like Optic or Cloud9 or Liquid. Some people do really forget that.

2017-05-12 08:24

Don't judge mouz before you haven't seen them. They performed pretty decent online and took the second place and furthermore they made it to semis at their first lan they played together.

2017-05-12 12:01

Nah Mouse >Navi all day everyday

2017-05-12 08:20

Completely unfair. People are only upset because FaZe and Astralis didn't make the cut. You have teams like NaVi, North, and NV who have done absolutely nothing but get worse these last months, that in a perfect scenario would fill the last 3 spots of EU EPL in an 8 spot league. If NA had 4 slots you probably have SK, OG, Liquid, C9, Immortals, CLG, and Misfits fighting for a spot. Four of which make it, all of which can beat those last three teams from EU but won't make it because EU has more slots.

2017-05-12 03:07

Extend EPL with two more teams and let the best 8 qualify for the finals. Problem solved. At the moment it would be extremely unfair to grant EU more slots in such a league system than spots for NA teams.

2017-05-12 00:39

So, basically give Astralis and Faze the spots they rightfully lost. Riiiiiiighhht

That's not the right conclusion. I said, the league should be generally extended with two more teams, to give two more teams the chance to qualify for the finals (not only Astralis and FaZe). 16 teams at finals make more sense anyway imo and we would see the best teams at the finals. As we all know bo1 is often luck because mistakes are being punished much harder than in a bo3. I was referring to the EPL season 6. Astralis and FaZe lost the spots rightfully this time.

Ah, ok. I misunderstood what you meant by "extend". I thought you meant extend EPLS5.

2017-05-12 02:05

GO GO FNATIC

faze and astralis why are u even there? ahahha

what the fuck is astralis doing

Gl in match against BIG

rip PL CS

ye.....8/4 split is really needed, 6/6 is retarded.

Or you could go 8/8 to give a chance for ok na team to compete against eu and what it's like and what they need to fix

Lmao its already a waste of spot rather give more spots to eu.na teams were shit snd will be shit for a long time

2017-05-12 03:41

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Lol, half the EU teams that qualified are worse than the 5th best NA team.

2017-05-12 05:11

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Who are they?

2017-05-12 07:03

Envy, Na'Vi, and Mouz probably is, but there current roster hasn't been to many lans.

2017-05-12 08:13

Na'Vi worse than the 5th NA team? Let's not get ahead of ourselves

Na'Vi is trash.

2017-05-12 08:14

Na'Vi at their worst are probably still better than Cloud9 and Liquid right now

Lol

Na'Vi's worst was like a week ago and they lost to misfits which is a much weaker team than C9 and Liquid. C9 and Liquid almost certainly wouldn't lose to Misfits.

2017-05-12 08:48

in ur logic NRG is a better team than SK ? b because they won 2x1 maps against SK. ohh.. and kinguin is better than vp and chiefs better than north xd

2017-05-12 21:36

Yep na'vi can't get their shit together at the moment.. Actually you can't include mouz because they could be able to beat c9 or optic...maybe not sk but the others are equal oppoments

Why are you reluctant to give NA teams a chance to practice? It would not hurt. It would actually make them better by facing harder opponents - that's how you become better - by fighiting more skilled opponent.

2017-05-12 19:44

Lets go PENTA, lets win agains VP to esl create other spot for this team don't go to premier

VP play BIG not penta. Br reading skill /facepalm

2017-05-12 12:24

Virtus.relegation

vp, astralis and faze why they are so bad online jesus!!!!

ITS BECAUSE THEY DONT CARE WHILE ONLINE TEAMS LIKE G2 NORTH GO 300% ONLINE AND GO OFF IN GROUP STAGES

2017-05-12 00:36

This is no excuse for being terrible online

2017-05-12 00:38

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Cuz online = useless. There is no crowd, no trophy. You dont feel like you're playing for something, no motivation. But online teams that I quoted, as they know they will do nothing in front of the crowd, they show everything online. You'll see how this tournament will be boring af. It's already gg for SK. They have no competition.

2017-05-12 00:44

ofc will be a boring tournament without 3 top teams, same as last year when they did not qualify

they are not top if they cant qualify lul.

2017-05-12 01:51

this is a point as well, if they are top teams they should focus on both games on lan and online games...

2017-05-12 01:53

Yeah, exactly. CS:GO unstable pro scene is a real problem, but at the same time it makes games more enjoyable(if you are not a Na`Vi fan ofc :D)

2017-05-12 01:57

I'm navi fan but -simple will make the team much better

2017-05-12 02:03

yes but also the league just has to run it, but FaZe and Astralis just came from down under and had huge jetlag, still they have to play. no wonder what happens.

2017-05-12 05:34

G2 can win against sk.

2017-05-12 00:51

Coff coff g2 coff

2017-05-12 00:53

Too bad. They have to perform to qualify. They have to change their mindset regarding online games or thye will never qualify.

2017-05-12 19:46

NRG and Liquid > Astralis and FaZe confirmed

EU should have at least 8 spots. Only SK, Immortals and maybe Cloud9 deserve a spot from NA.

I wanna See misfits

2017-05-12 08:26

rip Vp

France rekt Denmark today. GG Happy and shox, good work.

What makes me so sad it's I'm very hyped for next lan events, but now: ESL: Without FaZe and Astralis ECS: Maybe a hope here. ESL Cologne: Astralis skip. They will be so boring now.

+1. Really wanted to see a battle between SK/FaZe/Astralis again, but now I don't know who can win SK in ESL. In Cologne we have a chance for FaZe vs SK. And as you said ECS is only hope.

2017-05-12 00:48

Yep. But the other problem is: All this events are too close of the Major. I doubt these teams will play 100% in there matches, they will save strats for the BIG event.

2017-05-12 00:54

What's so special about Major? Other tourneys have bigger prizepool, so why bother with Major? It doens't come with bigger mone and its importance is totally superficial. I would rather win 200k at a tourney than win Major and earn 100k. The difference is huge.

2017-05-12 19:49

Well, the 1st place in Major win 500k. At least this is the amount in the last 3 editions. All players have the "dream" of win a Major. It's like a world championship, even with 2 or 3 events per year, the best players compete and bla bla bla... I think everyone priority this Event.

2017-05-12 23:03

AFAIK last Majors' prize for 1st spot was less than non-Major tourneys played close to Major. I don't give a fuck about prestige - money is what counts.

2017-05-14 20:25

Is it serious that Astralis, Faze and Virtus pro doesn't pass for the major?

This is not the major.

2017-05-12 02:31

looks like a major to me , same cashprize and even better cause no invitations stuff from 6 months ago

2017-05-12 14:24

VP Top 4 KEK

2017-05-12 00:40

Whether you like it or not they earned it. They had good results in the past, so they are still top 4. Looks like you can't handle simple maths.

2017-05-12 19:50

good thing nv went through, the only team with some diversity, not just white males like all the other racist european teams

LOL!!! Faze,Astralis and VP LMAO

Omg this shit navi and envyus on lan, and 2 top-1 teams are not. Fuck this system

nv managed to get two wins against astralis, not my fault they're shit lmao #cryisfree

2017-05-12 02:52

Who asked you if it was your fault its esls fault lol this is what happens online whereas shit teams like navi envyus choke at a tier 2 event

2017-05-12 03:44

salt?

2017-05-12 03:45

can't believe today's results. Amazing

Even more rippiness to already ripped event (cos esl lol)

2017-05-12 00:46

WTF? Faze and Astralis? RIP! We are the Champions! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm

> smart, loyal, friendly > from Brazil Choose one

2017-05-12 12:08

I can understand people's dissatisfaction because we will not have two of the three best teams in the world (I mean Astralis and FaZe) but I'm surprised why you want to keep VP. Poles are now in a terrible form and the tournament starts in over two weeks so it's impossible for them to start playing at this normal level. Better for the event that they will not be. I don't intend to offend anyone. I'm just telling the truth.

FaZe and Astralis so bad in Online

2 onliners teams lol

big comeback from fnatic

FaZe and Astralis have themselves to blame.

Nice comeback from G2, and great clutch over VP by Envy. GJGJ

onlinesport no chance on lan, classic

2017-05-12 00:52

navi no chance xd mouz ez 16-3 navi #cryisfree

2017-05-13 02:27

VP & Kinguin deserve ESL final spot!!!!

indeed lmao

Compare this division to the NA one. Big LUL.

2017-05-12 00:57

VP again on Premier?

2017-05-12 01:00

relegation match against BIG so they will most likely play in the next season

2017-05-12 01:05

Wouldn't be surprised if they whiff this like last season. ESEA to change rules for VP again

2017-05-12 01:11

it wasn't in last season (in S4 they've finished 7th) it was in S3

2017-05-12 01:12

Virtus.Premiere incoming again

2017-05-12 02:48

Navi instead of Faze :( Heroic pls. And nice cache vs g2. Could be much more interesting lan final, but online cs is online cs

2017-05-12 01:03

The Cry is free Astralis and FaZe fanguys

SK will win

lul FaZe lul Astralis

2017-05-12 01:06

Not a single tier1 team qualified lul

2017-05-12 01:10

Honestly, it should be round difference first and then head-to-head, it's a league, you play against every opponent and your opponents also played against every team, so it's not unfair in any way to go with round difference first, and it represents what each team actually did during all the league.

If coldzera will play shit, fnatic have a chance for win something after 2151532 years ;d

2017-05-12 01:14

After 1 year lul

2017-05-12 02:18

Hahahaha NAVI IN PLAYOFFS , not FaZe or other good team

Envy in the finals ROFL

9/17

2017-05-12 02:12

time for change on the top spots is coming I make a wild guess - misfits vs north final :D

2017-05-12 01:29

ez sk I guess...

2017-05-12 01:32

People worring about ast and I'm here thinking that vp will once again be able to pull it off the relegation match! Cmom, they should just play premier!

2017-05-12 01:56

Yes

2017-05-12 08:30

What do you mean "once again"? Last time they lost their relegation match against PENTA. hltv.org/match/2302787-virtuspro-penta-e..

2017-05-12 11:13

this time they play BIG not penta. So ez for VP.

i hope vp will lose to BIG

2017-05-12 01:59

RIP FaZe & Astralis... What a disappointment.

2017-05-12 02:09

Good. Having same teams at every big lan would be awful.

2017-05-12 02:10

vp should be relegated, u are making 20k in one month and dont care about your work at all. best.job.ever

2017-05-12 02:14

EZ For SK then. Fnadick, CrapVi and crap2 will not stand a chanse.

2017-05-12 02:15

The worst offline teams ever are all on lan. Ez for NA then.

2017-05-12 02:17

envyus? shieeeet.... at least we'll see some style head shots

VP HAHAHAH

2017-05-12 02:19

vp to relegation match? dafuq is goin' on bruh

2017-05-12 02:20

To worry, ESL will have some stupid fucking vote happen to get them back in like they did last time, if VP loses.

2017-05-12 02:41

That season ESL had 2 spots to give away,after promotions Stay mad stay salty.

2017-05-12 07:10

Fanboyism is strong

2017-05-12 08:39

mouse and envy wasted spots. -mouse -envy +astralis and faze

2017-05-12 02:37

Mouse over Navi

2017-05-12 08:31

Astralis #1 LUL Faze #2 LUL

2017-05-12 02:45

Astralis top 1 LUL!

2017-05-12 02:47

I see no Problem in this outcome at all. I mean the Teams that qualified didn't qualify their spot for nothing, so this means a worldcup is still a worldcup in football for example, even most legendary Brasil or Germany wouldn't qualify. This league was all about highest elite skill and those that qualified now did justified. It's great and fully earned and ok how it is. I mean that those Teams qualified after such a long period of matches and time against all elite competition means something when we talk about absolutely highest international cs skill. maybe your all hyped FaZe and Astralis which are proven and great elite competitors by my opinion(no doubt bout this fact even i am not astralis cs fan) are just overhyped and overrated? Think about ít. :)

2017-05-12 03:10

VP going to premier boys! Seriously though, I wish no ill will towards anyone, but perhaps if VP get relegated they will wake up and get their stuff together.

2017-05-12 03:09

Vp won't play Premier if they do get relegated, they have no wish to play pro league either.

2017-05-12 07:09

EnVy? T2 playoffs.

2017-05-12 03:23

Virtus.premier instead leaguefixing SeemsGood

2017-05-12 03:30

Poland stronk

2017-05-12 03:57

wasted 2 spots on finals lol

2017-05-12 04:06

Wasted 5 spots more like...

2017-05-12 07:08

virtus pro to ESEA Premier? lul

2017-05-12 04:17

RIp Faze, Astralis and VP.. coming top -5

2017-05-12 05:17

LUL

2017-05-12 05:30

vp and kinguin shame rotfl

2017-05-12 06:29

lol, you still should be making it to these finals whatever level is online

2017-05-12 06:36

Insane how people can cry. It's super fair that Astralis, Faze and VP are out. They been playing really bad and the other teams fought harder for the spot.

2017-05-12 06:57

Nope most of the teams who made it play better online. Forget vp they stand no chance online

2017-05-12 07:04

Blablabla online bla you Guys always try to defend those shitters

2017-05-12 08:32

dont worry,keep replying and telling yourself that these teams aint onliners...deluded navi and fnatic fans still think they matter in 2017

2017-05-12 17:09

Lol i hate Navi and fnatic

2017-05-12 19:48

Warch how esl makes up bullshit rules just so vp dont get relegated.

Ayy salty kid, vp will get relegated if they lose to big. They will not get relegated directly

2017-05-12 07:07

Just like last year?

2017-05-12 10:30

They did say we wont play premier,coz we dont give a fuck about esl. Too hard to comprehend

2017-05-12 17:08

let's go G2

All typical "onliner" teams have made it to lan. North.. Na'vi... Fnatic.. Mouz.. Envy..

+1 wtf, they cant win 1 map on lan atm

2017-05-12 07:21

fnatic won more LANs than the number of LAN finals VP got into

2017-05-12 07:41

Ahhahahahahahahaha,u just rekt those shit haters so hard

2017-05-12 10:33

See this is why triggered indians should not comment on HLTV,the current fnatic lineup in2017,has 0 achievements,literally. We aint talking about their era a year or 2 ago.Just like liverpool fans barking about their history. Dont be salty.Use protection. Your parents should have,at the very least.

2017-05-12 17:07

U are Just a salty fangay

2017-05-12 08:33

You just want to ignore the obvious. when was the last time north envy fnatic mouz navi did anything on lan ? yeah, never in 2017 Also , say that without crying

This is the reason why many of us feel LAN tournaments boring now-a-days coz (1) Proved LAN performing teams can't qualify through online qualification system. (2) Some of the online qualified teams can't perform in the main LAN tournament. Resultant to this, main LAN event remains boring or with less competition. If you will see Faze, Astralis, VP, NiP is far-far better on LAN than mousesports, EnVyUs, Liquid and NRG.

2017-05-12 07:43

Lol Nip and VP are shit VP went Out in groups Last Time i saw them and Nip is Just bad

2017-05-12 08:34

that wasn't the big tournament. In big tournament, VP will be 3-4 or in worst performance case 5-8. VP always have secured their major spot by remaining in TOP 8. That's their consistency in majors.

2017-05-12 08:58

Well We will See at the Major but i dont think that they will have a chance to win

2017-05-12 09:07

winning is the different thing but they will surely be in TOP 8 and secure a spot for next major. btw this time major is in POLAND so, i think they must be 1st or 2nd. Below that, it can be considered bad performance.

2017-05-12 09:21

They are scraping through to semi maybe Not more :)

2017-05-12 09:37

When NAVI qulificated?

2017-05-12 08:42

By placing 5th.

2017-05-12 11:18

i know, but points like a Faze and Astralis and rounds difference lower than they

2017-05-12 14:41

hltv.org/?pageid=357&eventid=2638

2017-05-12 14:55

can u delete my latest thread? It was bait and I feel sorry for posting it

2017-05-12 18:41

Link?

2017-05-13 15:02

I hope VP will be relegated...

2017-05-12 08:57

+1, shame games from vp on pro league..

2017-05-12 12:12

VP HAHAHAHA WELL DESERVED FOR TALK TOO MUCH Maybe now they will actually take their job more serious

2017-05-12 09:31

gj mouz

2017-05-12 10:47

7. FaZe - $27,000 8. Astralis - $23,000 9. Heroic - $19,000 10. NiP - $17,500 11. LDLC - $15,000 12. HellRaisers - $11,500 (Relegation Stage) 13. Virtus.pro - $8,000 (Relegation Stage) 14. Kinguin - $4,000 (relegated to ESEA Premier S25) H@@H@H@H@H@H@HH@H@H@ Na`Vi raped those sheeuits.

2017-05-12 11:52