pashaBiceps: "It will be a miracle if we survive this"

6-7-2017 01:25

Virtus.pro member Jarosław "pashaBiceps" Jarząbkowski has admitted that it will take "a miracle" for his team to stick together following the recent results.

The 29-year-old's comments came in the aftermath of Virtus.pro's early exit at ESL One Cologne after just three games following defeats to Immortals, SK and HEROIC.

The Polish team enjoyed a great start to the year, finishing in second place at the ELEAGUE Major and winning DreamHack Masters Las Vegas, but since then they have been in a worrying slump of form.

pashaBiceps believes things will only get harder for his team

At their last three big international events - IEM Katowice, StarLadder i-League StarSeries Season 3 and ESL One Cologne -, Virtus.pro failed to reach the playoffs, while they have been relegated from the ESL Pro League and could also lose their spot in ECS after finishing in ninth place last season.

Jarosław "⁠pashaBiceps⁠" Jarząbkowski admits that he and his teammates are enduring the worst slump of their careers and added that they are struggling to find a solution to the problem.

"Third event with no results, I have never had such a bad period in my eight-year career, it was not long ago that we lost the Major grand final," he wrote on Facebook.

"What to do to not go crazy? What to do to get back in shape? It is hard already, and it is going to get even harder.

"If we survive this and do not split up it will be another miracle."

Virtus.pro's next event will be PGL Major Krakow, in less than two weeks, where the Polish team will face Vega Squadron in the first round of the Swiss stage.

finally they're disbanding

2017-07-06 01:26

92 replies

Can't simply imagine where they'll how they'll play in another team/org

2017-07-06 01:27

61 replies

Probs all retire Maybe a few coach positions

2017-07-06 01:28

59 replies

None of them can speak English properly, only Kinguin has polish line-up afaik.

2017-07-06 01:29

12 replies

taz and neo seem to have decent english

2017-07-06 01:36

7 replies

It would be sad if such a team that played together so many years has fallen apart, but maybe it's time

2017-07-06 03:22

6 replies

+1 love them but it seems like they can´t bring the results :(

2017-07-06 03:55

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2017-07-06 08:31

TaZ is perfect english but nt

2017-07-06 08:22

3 replies

I wouldn't say perfect but okay fanboy

2017-07-06 10:03

Fanboy <3 planekey shit 1000 tier team XD

2017-07-06 10:56

1 reply

nice acc + this "XD" sad kid...

2017-07-06 12:14

ye , snax and byali will retire. you should retire from posting.

2017-07-06 01:29

39 replies

Snax can go to every team what he want include NA Byali overrated mini pasha can only play with this TIER4 Pl kids TAZ ? probably still in e-sport perfect english can work for esl dh commentator expert panel etc... NEO ? back to normal life PASHA ? lul did he even finish elementary school ?

2017-07-06 01:36

37 replies

pasha will be one of the biggest streamers on twitch ez 30 k views easy motar2k

2017-07-06 01:53

7 replies

forgot 10-15 years old kids very fast leave him this age group never every should be any full tiem stremer priority especialy this what play only one game want example ? izakoo from +20k ppl every time to less than 5k

2017-07-06 02:03

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viewbot expired

2017-07-06 06:05

ye, only 5k eur instead of 20k eur a month.

2017-07-06 07:50

good point actually

2017-07-06 11:47

can you repeat that in english?

2017-07-06 17:59

It would be sad if such a team that played together so many years has fallen apart, but maybe it's time

2017-07-06 03:20

1 reply

Everything has to end eventually sadly

2017-07-06 03:24

NEO can create new polish super team and be his coach. TaZ desk analyst for ESL maybe RoomOnFire? Pasha streamer or president in PashaLondonSchool kappa. Byali to kinguin or AGO. Snax to FaZe for allu? idk

2017-07-06 02:01

19 replies

already one player do it neo old friend Loord im sure he fucking regret this decision working with this Kinguin as coach Jebaited lvl 99 NEO isnt that stupid

2017-07-06 02:10

lol snax over allu

2017-07-06 02:25

7 replies

LOL ? snax in form > allu in form

2017-07-06 03:21

3 replies

You mean, Snax without form>allu in form

2017-07-06 04:11

2 replies

True

2017-07-06 08:29

Exactly! Snax is beast

2017-07-06 10:59

i would any day change allu for snax.. allu isnt as consisten as he was before niko joined...

2017-07-06 04:04

2 replies

...snax, more consistent...? Have you watched any fucking snax matches lately and compared them to recent allu matches, or are you just talking out of your ass, 'cause you're braindead? Snax has an unbelievably fucking high skill ceiling, but he's not consistent, at least not recently.

2017-07-06 16:16

1 reply

playing with 5 ppl does not really bring you back in the game.. playing with a team like FaZe will surely up your game in no time... it shouldnt be long before snax finds his consistency...

2017-07-06 17:18

Snax barely speak English

2017-07-06 09:04

5 replies

allu also

2017-07-06 12:36

4 replies

wtf are you on about, Allus english is more than decent.. Like obviously since nordic contries teach english from roughly the age of 8 to 17.. Summing up to between 650 and 900 hours of english lessons (varies depending some factors). You clearly havn't heard a single interview of allu, or your english is simply too bad to be able to judge it.. Edit: Here you go, you fool: > youtube.com/watch?v=VQKi6IYrxKM

2017-07-06 12:54

2 replies

yea. this english is so fucking hard

2017-07-06 12:59

Is Styko the interviewer? :D btw he has a weird accent but he speaks very well and fluently

2017-07-06 14:13

Obviously u mixed him up with some polish players he speaks english more than enough

2017-07-06 15:32

Snax is not an AWPer you stupid newfag

2017-07-06 09:22

2 replies

He is hybrid AWPer.

2017-07-06 10:19

1 reply

Also an attack helicopter

2017-07-06 13:54

We dont need another Janko lel

2017-07-07 05:03

The entire team will certainly not fall apart, it may just change one person or bring about another revolution,

2017-07-06 03:24

1 reply

I'm not sure if changing one player would result. I think the actual mindset would be tranfered to the new player. I really think they need to change 2 or 3, and these players need to have personality.

2017-07-06 10:25

Pasha elementary school? Pasha finished high school, passed his high school diploma, even went to college medical but threw for cs

2017-07-06 03:27

1 reply

Dunno why people see pasha like an idiot ,just cuz he.s always with the fun mood and bad english ? Stupid kids,sometimes i wonder why this guys play the game when the crowd and fans are <18 and dumbass kids. u can,t win everything when half of the team has their own kids home

2017-07-06 10:56

TaZ too salty to be an analyst

2017-07-06 04:59

1 reply

What about dazed hes toxic cunt

2017-07-06 15:45

NEO back to normal life XDDD never read such a fucking stupid thing in my entire life, biggest legend of this game going back to normal life. k e k

2017-07-06 09:08

2 replies

NEO made cs xD

2017-07-06 19:12

1 reply

2017-07-06 19:49

lol

2017-07-06 02:05

pasha wont retire. rn hes playing actually good. the main problem is taz

2017-07-06 01:34

4 replies

I don't think the problem come from one player, maybe it's just that the synergy between them is not working anymore :(

2017-07-06 01:47

3 replies

yea, they have problem inside their heads, they need psychologist right now

2017-07-06 02:06

2 replies

or players like NEO TAZ minium 14h everyday AIM pratice instead babysting kids but for 30 years old mans always should be priority familly> computer game this duo is jsut done after Krakow major im sure

2017-07-06 02:14

1 reply

2017-07-06 07:23

Snax would not retire lol

2017-07-06 08:45

Snax has a decent chance of getting into another team I'd say bc he's a beast if he were to learn English he defo would.

2017-07-06 11:54

I hope they are not.

2017-07-06 01:28

6 replies

it sucks but what else can they do if they can't fix their problems, if they drop out in groups AGAIN at the major (which will most likely happen) then they just need to get it over with they look so uninspired while playing and they aren't getting anything done

2017-07-06 01:36

5 replies

Agree. -allu +snax Others retire

2017-07-06 02:22

4 replies

BYALI retire? He's young, like snax; maybe neo, pasha and taz could retire, yes.

2017-07-06 04:55

3 replies

Byali should go work as a carpenter or some shit then

2017-07-06 05:11

1 reply

1+ :D

2017-07-06 07:23

He should because he is the most inconsistent player in VP. He might go ham once a year and after that plays like tier 4 player.

2017-07-06 10:22

Its actually sad :/

2017-07-06 01:53

2 replies

i feel bad for them.

2017-07-06 02:19

1 reply

2k17 lul 2 legend team fell down RIP nip and vp [*] But wait ... NIP made changes and they are back so maybe kick fucking bot taz add michu and enjoy wins again?

2017-07-06 04:45

Dudes.. Pasha and taz are fathers. I'm a father and I can't even play cs anymore to be able to sort everything else. Its difficult. They are doing the best they can.. Sleep depravation, organization and stress all accumulated its obvious that they would go down on their performance. Not forever, because in 6 months kids start sleeping better and being regular. Lets see in the major.

2017-07-06 02:52

7 replies

But you have a job right? Their job is cs.

2017-07-06 03:01

4 replies

But u also have priorities in your life ,like job,family and other stuff,so u choose whats more important ,so u can leave a job for your family,it.s been done and always will ,grow up fanboi,or get over

2017-07-06 11:06

2 replies

'leave job for the family' ummmm... no, man gotta provide lmao

2017-07-06 11:49

1 reply

Leave it for another job,or move to other town with the job and because of the job not stop working at all,and vp have some money from cs ,they can survive without jobs a period

2017-07-07 09:50

Yes.. But can i focus 100%? No. Atlest for the time being that he awakes in the night. After that period, of course they can

2017-07-06 15:28

Bollocks... What about professional athletes from normal sports? Football, Basketball, etc... Most of them have families, yet they are able to maintain their professionalism and compete on the highest level. I don't about what kind of parenting are you talking about if they are travelling most of the time and out of home. They rarely get to even see their families. You live a normal life and you see your family everyday, but they don't. They all agreed to live the life of professional gamer with all it's consequences.

2017-07-06 15:27

1 reply

I understand your point of view. Lets see in the major. Maybe they can rest and fresh it up. Or not.

2017-07-06 15:31

Snax and Byali might go Kinguin but thats about it...others may retire or become coaches. Snax and Byali are still young...we will see.

2017-07-06 03:05

are you uncomfortable with them playing together? why do you care so much if they play or not

2017-07-06 03:44

2 replies

Because they're a wasted spot at every tournament they attend to, honestly looks like they don't even wanna play

2017-07-06 10:26

1 reply

its just 4 bad months if it keeps up i am sure they gonna get less and less invites. I think that they deserve few chances for all their previous achievements.

2017-07-07 02:56

2017-07-06 06:55

ez for papa ez disband Full Time Biceps

2017-07-06 08:18

Respect them...

2017-07-06 10:10

1 reply

I never disrespected them, but the major is the last chance for them and you know it So it's not looking good

2017-07-06 10:28

how stupid of ppl to say "finaly they split up" ... This is one of the big powerhous of CSGO and was of CS. And the people go to the Arena to WATCH VP. Not to watch Immortals - North or OpTic - Astralis. This is the team of the people. Amazing team that always get results. Hope they win the major and they can win the major. I give them 45% chance to take the major. And Astralis 25% and SK 20% and NiP 15%

2017-07-06 10:30

3 replies

You're dumb and delusional if you can't see that they're done, they'll most drop out in groups at the major like they've done at the last 3 big events they've attended to, they've never been in a slump this bad, not even remotely I'd rather see them retire/split up than keep tarnishing their legacy

2017-07-06 10:36

The first part of your comment was good,the second made me believe that you are delusional

2017-07-06 11:54

Ez for faze then 100% chance

2017-07-06 12:18

rofl

2017-07-06 01:26

wow rip VP

2017-07-06 01:26

RIP

2017-07-06 01:26

30k a month seems to be enough to survive

2017-07-06 01:26

3 replies

they need show results dude... if not this 30k will not happen again

2017-07-06 01:36

2 replies

and 4 years juicy contract with mercedes ferrari poroshe vacation can end in next 4 weeks

2017-07-06 01:44

1 reply

end in next 4 weeks? XD

2017-07-06 08:15

KLUL

2017-07-06 01:26

LUL

2017-07-06 01:27

Oh shiat

2017-07-06 01:27

An article out of a Facebook post lol

2017-07-06 01:27

1 reply

multiple articles and opinion pieces are posted in mainstream media over a tweet so hltv trying to keep up.

2017-07-06 01:35

disband

2017-07-06 01:27

no pls guys :( you can do it, we believe

2017-07-06 01:27

6 replies

Wez, niech wkoncu zrobia te zmiany XD

2017-07-06 09:25

5 replies

nie zrobia zmian bo nie ma polskich zamiennikow cale kinguin ssie pale

2017-07-06 11:51

zawsze moga dodac gaba Kappa

2017-07-06 12:39

1 reply

albo mnie, mam globala i 10 lvl, ogarniam duzo smolkuw

2017-07-06 17:56

This is an international site, please write your comments in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.

2017-07-06 17:58

1 reply

w dupie to mam

2017-07-06 18:47

2017-07-06 01:27

Papa don't lose hope

2017-07-06 01:27

1 reply

Rip ma frend :|

2017-07-06 10:15

2017-07-06 01:27

rip

2017-07-06 01:27

RIP VP, but let's see which excuse some of their defenders will pull out this time

2017-07-06 01:27

That happens always to vp, bad matches in a row and from nothing...top 4 of the major at least. Mark my words

2017-07-06 01:28

1 reply

no this time it is something different

2017-07-06 02:54

Stay strong pasha. We are number one, support us, hate us, fuel us. Love ya.

2017-07-06 01:28

5 replies

You are not even top 10

2017-07-06 01:33

4 replies

after coologne 2017 they are for sure drop from HLTV top15

2017-07-06 01:45

U talk :))) about top 10 toxic brat ?

2017-07-06 10:59

2 replies

RIP English

2017-07-06 15:28

1 reply

Well, i hadn.t thought it.s necessarily to talk english properly with you :*,mostly cuz u are not even top 10 :)

2017-07-07 10:09

FeelsBadMan

2017-07-06 01:28

VP will take the Major. Mark my word.

2017-07-06 01:28

3 replies

I will come back to this haha

2017-07-06 07:25

I bookmarked this page

2017-07-06 17:59

hahahha

2017-07-27 23:34

ez disband

2017-07-06 01:28

just leave this team Pasha you only wasted your fantastic AWP skill 4Head

2017-07-06 01:28

they have no movitations

2017-07-06 01:28

nooooooo

2017-07-06 01:28

They got civilised. That's all it takes to go downhill.

2017-07-06 01:28

God pls help vp

2017-07-06 01:28

Even though I'm not a fan of VP, this must be really heartbreaking for them and their fans.

2017-07-06 01:29

1 reply

True. But I think they can do it again.

2017-07-06 10:33

rip vp

2017-07-06 01:29

25.000$ salary every month, they won't disband, they can take about a million $ in the 3 and a half years of contract they have + prizepools + stickers ...

2017-07-06 01:29

5 replies

source ?

2017-07-06 01:50

4 replies

I think i read it either on HLTV or on VaKarM (french site), maybe not 25.000$ (can't remember the exact figure, maybe 20.000$, can't remember the exact source so don't know if it was reliable) but the figure i read "shocked" me even more than the numbers for North or G2 (on the 20-25.000$/€ month range) because the average salary in Poland is lower than in France, and way lower than in Denmark. (i will try to find the source, if i find it back i will update my message to link it to you)

2017-07-06 01:53

3 replies

10 000$ normal player, 20 000$ star player (like Snax)

2017-07-06 01:55

2 replies

I apologize for what may be a false information as i'm reading an article from the 19th of December 2016 on VaKarM saying they signed for 4 years (until the end of 2020) but no salary was mentioned in the article. Maybe i "dreamt" it or read elsewhere and the people that has written it (if it ever existed lol) wasn't reliable.

2017-07-06 02:01

1 reply

20-25k is correct number, remember it as well when they convert this money to polish PLN it counts X4 so 1,5 months salary can get them audi q5 2013 for 150k

2017-07-06 11:56

God help Virtus.pro at this point

2017-07-06 01:29

13 replies

yes polish CS is done if they disband

2017-07-06 01:31

12 replies

Not really, there are some uprising talents (Kinguin)

2017-07-06 01:36

11 replies

kappa

2017-07-06 01:43

xddddd

2017-07-06 02:06

ahhahhaa

2017-07-06 02:19

kinguin uprising talents for the past 20 years

2017-07-06 02:24

LUL

2017-07-06 02:28

2017-07-06 02:29

uprising talent for 5 years? Kinguin has risen and fallen already my son. thank you for your meme you make us all laugh good!

2017-07-06 02:33

lol hahaha

2017-07-06 03:03

Nice meme

2017-07-06 08:00

You are so funny xddd ! You surely are invited at all parties , fellla

2017-07-06 09:03

MEGALUL

2017-07-06 11:56

Goodbye my friend. At least he can stream again.

2017-07-06 01:30

no chance my friend

2017-07-06 01:30

They have contract for 4 years more so they dont give a shit they will keep getting 25k after that taz will be 35 neo 34 pasha 33

2017-07-06 01:30

2 replies

No who knows under which condition they are contracted. maybe the Virtus Pro Organisation has a clause in which they can end their contract anytime

2017-07-06 02:56

1 reply

bro it was on HLTV after this major in january that they sign new 4 years contracts

2017-07-06 13:32

;(

2017-07-06 01:30

if they cant beat vega then gg

2017-07-06 01:31

stop with "vp is a different team in major" vp is over. This aint 2014 and teams these days improved immensely

2017-07-06 01:32

6 replies

People used to say "NiP always play better at Majors", now they don't even qualify for Minors. I agree, Virtus.pro is going to split up after exiting groups in Krakow.

2017-07-06 01:33

"This aint 2014 and teams these days improved immensely" but they placed second last major

2017-07-06 01:34

4 replies

how much can change your life in that sort time from TOP1 to meme in less than 6months

2017-07-06 01:49

That's like a life time in cs dude.. there have been endless failures ever since taz got cocky. His statement was their downfall. It's time for them to change things anyway. Teams shouldn't stay together this long in any sport. Just look at fnatic trying to do it As Well. The only time fnatic were successful when they made changes. Same with envyus FaZe.. nearly every successful team.

2017-07-06 02:31

2 replies

thing is there isn't any other option in the polish scene. best player in the polish scene who can replace someone from VP is michu and he's mediocre to bad. nV can make changes cuz there's so many good players in the fr scene, and FaZe can just choose any player if they want. for VP they will end up with nothing, no talent to replace and will end up with 2 shit teams. if they change they might as well retire excluding Snax and maybe byali.

2017-07-06 02:46

1 reply

I'm sorry but anything is better then going 0-3 every tourny. Finishing last place every online league. Dropping to premier minor. When they get knocked out of the major without a win then they will just have to change no matter what. Losing 90% of games even to t3/4 teams is just the end of a team.

2017-07-06 03:11

I doubt they will disband they just signed 4 year contracts and they usually bounce back

2017-07-06 01:35

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They won't bounce back though. 2 of them have new borns. They don't have the mental energy to succeed at this level anymore. They are up against at least 12 teams that all put in 100% and dont have other commitments in life. This is a job that needs that to stay on top and there days having the time to be even a t2 team are over.. They aren't even that anymore. So stop saying hopeful bullshit about that lol. They have to disban or swap 2 players at least

2017-07-06 02:35

2 replies

ik tbh i don't really care what happens to them i just think they will keep struggling on maybe finding some success here or there same as they have always done. Besides with the contracts they have signed im sure the money they r getting is better than other jobs they could find atm

2017-07-06 02:50

1 reply

Yup thats the only reason they will stay together which is depressing in its self lol

2017-07-06 03:13

do you know their contract condition? I don't think so. yes they have all contracts till 2020 but maybe the organisation has built a clause in their contracts to end their contracts

2017-07-06 02:58

2 replies

Oh im sure they have clauses to end their contracts but idk if vp org would do it. I mean kinguin players aren't that great of replacements imo and alot of fans love the personalities of the guys on vp. Like nip for a long time "as long as our fans love us why change"

2017-07-06 03:01

1 reply

maybe they will consider to go out from csgo idk.

2017-07-06 03:08

Ofc they won't disband, they will make a roster change

2017-07-06 03:05

sad but true, VP's just lost in the shadows :<

2017-07-06 01:35

They need a coach, psychologist or somebody to help them to beat vega and bring back the victory. I'd not like them to split and retires, 'cause most of them aren't young players and i don't think that pasha (or anybody of that old-players) with 29 years old goes for another team if VP splits up. I hope so, but i don't think so.

2017-07-06 01:35

thank fuck -pashabotceps -taz +michu +bntet (only young polish player with superatar potential rn) wont be top1 but will be better than current roster

2017-07-06 01:35

3 replies

bntet is from indonesia. the caster said it yesterday. I thought he is from poland too

2017-07-06 02:18

BnTeT is upside down Poland lol. (Indonesia and Polish flags are flipped.)

2017-07-06 02:35

retarded kid pasha is vp's best player this year with snax

2017-07-06 02:59

Feels2017Man

2017-07-06 01:35

Taz talking shit about how "you will see a good vp" At least pasha is being realistic.

2017-07-06 01:37

1 reply

Has talking shit turned into that now? weak and weak news.

2017-07-06 03:54

It is pretty obvious that VP will change players after major if they cannot achieve anything.

2017-07-06 01:37

Disband after Major

2017-07-06 01:38

Sadly but true :( FeelsSoBadManToVpIn2017

2017-07-06 01:39

actually pasha playing good in this event, they must cut taz and maybe neo but who will join vp? michu? innocent? poland cs is rip in pepperoni

2017-07-06 01:40

3 replies

Funnily enough I think innocent is better off in Penta

2017-07-06 02:30

1 reply

2017-07-06 02:37

this event solid? pasha has been VP's best player in 2k17 with snax and even their best player, because snax is struggling tbh

2017-07-06 03:00

Sad about them.

2017-07-06 01:42

I always thought people in HLTV mocked teams mostly for baiting reasons, but now it makes me sad to see people happy that the disbandment of the team (and likely retirement of such legendary players such as neo and taz) is a palpable reality.

2017-07-06 01:43

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2017-07-06 01:44

Sorry but wanting them to stay together is worse because you can see from their reactions after ever failing tournament they are slowly dying inside. If you were a fan you would want change because not only do they need it to get better but they need it for their life. This will be also making them depressed in life. They have family's to take care of now and if they are getting destroyed event after event. Do you think they will go home to their family feeling happy? No fucking way.. They will carry these feelings with them. So people like you that want them to stick together are the bad fans.

2017-07-06 02:41

1 reply

I want them to do well thats right, as a cs fan I want to see them playing. However if it is really as you say and there is no coming back then they should do whatever makes them happy.

2017-07-06 02:42

+1 absolute legends. Hopefully they can pull some results in the major, even if they still disband it'd be good for them to go out on a high.

2017-07-07 02:54

Ooh. So sad to hear that but it's true. There's gonna be changes if VP won't show up on major. This VP is coming to end I think. And I really hope that I'm wrong.

2017-07-06 01:47

The problem with the polish scene is the fact that all of the players like Kuben, LUq, Lord etc retired, and didnt contribute to creating new talent within the polish scene. If VP had to swap players, I would still actually pick all the 5 VP players for the best polish lineup possible. It seems as if they are burnt out, and need a longer break. Give them 3-6 months away from the game, give them the chance of having fun playing CSGO again, and things might change. If they decided on changing roster - who would go? Pasha, snax and byali have been solid the last three months - so do you cut neo and taz? And who do you pick up? Michu and who? Innocent to get an IGL? There simply is not enough talent for them to swap players. Much less enough players with the needed experience to be champions.

2017-07-06 01:46

6 replies

I agree, polish scene doesnt have talent to play for Virtus.pro. Its only 2 players who can play for VP are innocent and MICHU. Or maybe impossible way #Freesnax and -allu +snax :D

2017-07-06 01:52

1 reply

this is the best scenario SNAX join FAZE and poland become one man player scene EleGiggle

2017-07-06 02:25

the first part could be copy/pasted into german cs after 1.6 went downhill. all legends of mouz/aTTaX retired (even gob for like 2 years) and none was left to build on, it took several years and a comeback of gobb to form another top 15 team in BiG even tho mouz/Penta had been there already even tho the level of competition wasnt as high as it is now. /e: VP gotta go back to NEO IGL, TaZ focus on fragging, otherwise he is dead weight, same goes for byali. let snax awp and pasha rifle.

2017-07-06 01:52

actually polish cs scene sucks dick, cause organizations have no money for teams and many players cant move up.

2017-07-06 01:52

2 replies

IzakooBOARS XDDDDDDDDDD

2017-07-06 01:53

1 reply

izakoBoars sucks when it comes to plays

2017-07-06 13:56

I have no idea why VP completly changed the whole team stras and players' functions. They were doing pretty good being 2nd in Atlanta and winning DH LV. Now when Snax is IGL and Pasha plays main AWP everything goes really bad for them. I hope they will find the way to win.

2017-07-06 01:48

2 replies

it seems that you didn't watch any VP's game. pasha has been awping the whole year more than snax.

2017-07-06 03:01

1 reply

I know dude nad it doesn't matter. They've won more with Snax awping and they should stick with that if it was working.

2017-07-06 13:56

meh

2017-07-06 01:49

VP buys Vega Squadron roster. xD

2017-07-06 01:53

Spoiler alert: VP won't change their roster until 2020 because of the 5-year contract in 2015. Shocker, I know. :o

2017-07-06 01:54

5 replies

Pasha can be VP streamer, Snax n1 chief cooker for twitch cooking channel, sell byali to Kinguin, Neo first pro bicycle racer from eSport and TaZ the personal driver for Sneg xDD

2017-07-06 02:01

There are still ways the org can cancel the contracts my friend.

2017-07-06 08:10

3 replies

With some huge severence pays, and strong arguments from vp team that theyll come back as they always did

2017-07-06 11:12

2 replies

I hope so but i dont think its possible sadly. I think vp is done this time.

2017-07-06 20:02

1 reply

they looked way worse around katowice 2016 period, and look at them from summer 2016 till early 2017, they looked in great form

2017-07-06 20:04

i think it's huge fake and vp will show up on major... REALLY. Just stfu and wait for major

2017-07-06 01:55

1 reply

Why though

2017-07-06 02:36

Nooooooo :( This makes me so unbelievably sad.... Following the scene ever since 2013, near the inception of CS:GO when VP, NIP, LDLC and fnatic were always the 4 IRON pillars of the scene.... and now my favourite team could possibly be disbanding... I really hope that the core stays together but they try out SZPERO and MICHU... please guys :-(

2017-07-06 01:56

Man, this is so sad. I really hope they somehow have a great run at PGL Major. Undoubtedly they have the aim, the raw individual skills, the knowledge and the teamplay necessary to do so, but I'm sure something outgame has been severely interfering in their performances. Whatever that is, I hope they can overcome it together and stay strong as individuals and as a team, because what they've built for this game and the whole community is priceless and they can for sure still contribute immensely. CS:GO would never have become such a great game if it wasn't for VP showing to their fans and to the world (is there anyone who dares not to have sympathy for them?) what having a team you can call family means, if it wasn't for each and every one of them always having immense respect towards their opponents. They've gone through so much together, from being at the top and remaining humble, to enduring many downfalls and keeping the hard work as if their comeback was certain. And it is bound to happen once again, hopefully they'll be able to pull off another miracle and keep helping CS:GO community grow bigger, stronger and as warm hearted as they are for many years to come. #respect

2017-07-06 01:58

4 replies

+1000

2017-07-06 02:00

Wise words

2017-07-06 03:09

+1, would be sad to see the legends go away.

2017-07-06 03:11

Some kids we.re born,kuben has a kid,or got married or smth as far as i know,real life basically was interfering :)

2017-07-06 11:01

Feelsbadman

2017-07-06 02:00

Love VP or hate VP but if they do disband a bit of counter strike history will be just gone, gotta appreciate the last matches of legends maybe

2017-07-06 02:03

Why don't VP create academy team dedicated for taz and neo.

2017-07-06 02:03

Let's go Vp <3 You are strong!!!!

2017-07-06 02:03

-vp +nip lul so, major is your vp. GL.

2017-07-06 02:04

tbh idk at the very same point i can say that there's something and there's nothing to be worried about,yes vps recent results have been shit without a doubt,even throught pasha did write something similar to this one year ago when they were also in slump,i guess we'll have to see it even throught even if they make the changes it might end up in fncsent...

2017-07-06 02:04

2 replies

but this slump is much worse. pasha already indicated that. and now pasha has even 1 child more, taz has a baby, neo is engaged and kuben has an baby aswell

2017-07-06 03:03

1 reply

i know..

2017-07-06 10:43

you can't expect them to be a top tier team forever. this was certain to happen. I won't be surprised if in end of the year, they are not in top 30.

2017-07-06 02:05

2 replies

No, they just don't put any effort in the game and cry afterwards, they play less than 10 hours cs per week...they complain, but it's their fault, not bootcamping/tryharding PUBG

2017-07-06 02:44

1 reply

The problem is they all have families that they have to take care of. I wouldn't play cs for 10 hours a day either if i had a newborn child. Pasha just got his second child, taz has a newborn child, and kuben has a baby aswell. They are probably just too distracted, to put effort and time into cs. They days of VP are slowly but surely coming to an end.

2017-07-06 08:22

go home papito

2017-07-06 02:06

looking forward to their major run

2017-07-06 02:06

blah blah blah. Of course you will survive doing nothing and getting 20k$ per month till 2020

2017-07-06 02:07

good luck papa

2017-07-06 02:09

take a half year break

2017-07-06 02:12

I simply cannot imagine a competitive scene without Virtus.Pro with the roster they have now. They can fix their problems because they're no stranger to fixing problems in the past. Good luck VP.

2017-07-06 02:12

vp needs 2 new players like a nip To grow again

2017-07-06 02:23

If this roster keeps playing badly i could see a couple of PRIDE players joining the lineup. Minise or even innocent from PENTA would work.

2017-07-06 02:25

I really feel bad for the team, especially for Pasha, but Taz... he is a stupid arrogant player, devaluing his opponents thinking that his team is unbeatable. Really hope they choose to kick this moron, that lately is playing like a bot.

2017-07-06 02:26

1 reply

+gold he is just waiter in CS:GO with ego problem this low skill talk to much against much better players than him now this trashers is finally shut up

2017-07-06 02:46

this team is trully legend, somehow it feel sad hearing this. being fans i want to give them time to fix this, but people want to see good cs, and there a thing that cannot be fix even they have time, they team full of synergy, i love them not because they superior with they aim, but it's they playstyle, trying to fight and find away to win eventhough they opponent outaim them.the first team that stoping NIP era at 2014. still remember when fnatic was so dominant and vp fast the first team to fight back and show other team how to antistrat fnatic. teaching people proper way to play new version of maps. but now thing getting darker for them, just wish them goodluck

2017-07-06 02:27

Please survive, VP!

2017-07-06 02:27

VP will pull through, let's just give them time..

2017-07-06 02:40

I still see a tier 1 lineup on them :/ kinda hard to believe still. But 3 of them will have to end up teaming with MICHU and MINISE, then we have a new golden 5

2017-07-06 02:42

Wow botceps can't resolve the problem...maybe try B O O T C A M P or at least P L A Y T H E G A M E over 10hours/week...Of course you are bad if you don't practice, neither DM, and prefer playing PUBG... Virtus.Arrogant so annoying "b-but we need a miracle", stupid bots.

2017-07-06 02:42

2 replies

stop being so salty

2017-07-06 03:03

twitter.com/g5taz/status/833732240861392..

2017-07-06 03:11

STAY STRONG VP, DONT FUCKING DISBAND

2017-07-06 02:43

snax on faze would be insane! -kio or -allu?

2017-07-06 02:44

1 reply

atm snax < all

2017-07-06 08:26

They are so fucking old. This is not like NiP old. They are literally old. Taz and Neo should retire. And pasha has some talents but he can't go far. I give him max 2 years. They really open the way for Snax and Byali. It's time. I think a major upset will be the end of G5.

2017-07-06 02:50

:,(

2017-07-06 02:52

I think RIP VP but hope they will be better soon.

2017-07-06 02:53

2017-07-06 02:54

DISBand

2017-07-06 03:00

Stay strong guys... :(

2017-07-06 03:01

Pasha plz

2017-07-06 03:05

actually surprised how many nonpolish and non VP Fans here in this article did show some "love" towards them. it is sad with this slump around but sadly this is what time does. nobody can beat the time so won't this legendary lineup be able to do so :-( The thing is Major Win or not (doubt that they will make it out sadly) how are they going to perform after? I guess the game vs Vega decides everything. an aggressive, solid tactical and good aiming team can bring them to an massive tiltmode...

2017-07-06 03:07

5 replies

Vega is literally the worst team in the major, if VP lose to vega they'll disband on the spot.

2017-07-06 03:10

4 replies

won't happend but after the Major 4 sure. idk if vega is the worst but one of the weakest. they are underdogs but exactly this aggressive "aimbattling" playstyle can destroy vp

2017-07-06 03:13

2 replies

There was a thread ranking the major teams from highest to lowest, there was like 100 replies and 99% of the comments had vega on number 16. If VP can't beat vega then they shouldn't play anymore.

2017-07-06 03:15

1 reply

has nothing to do with ranking and vega. if they won't qualifier for the Major Playoffs they will disband probably

2017-07-06 03:20

"if"

2017-07-06 08:36

neo, taz, kuben, loord, pasha. That's the solution :p

2017-07-06 03:09

just disband already . you won enough , you earned enough , you settled families already , you are "legends" , wtf do you want more ? we havr all seen enough of old school washed up players who are stubborn to play even tho they clearly suck at high level . we want fresh young talents in the scene not the same old washed up faces. respect for what you did but just disband already , bye.

2017-07-06 03:16

1 reply

so yes one of best player in this game fucking Snax TOP5 2014 2015 2016 must also retrie but anchor TAZ and NEO play like silvers ? just after major kick this shiters and keep going next year vale gona make CS The Innternational with 50mln prize pool

2017-07-06 03:41

so - taz +michu

2017-07-06 03:17

Sucks they have been alot of fun to watch through out the years.

2017-07-06 03:19

It would be sad if such a team that played together so many years has fallen apart, but maybe it's time

2017-07-06 03:20

1 reply

time beats everyone. not even the plow can beat it :-(

2017-07-06 03:25

for the record, snax byali and pasha have from 60 to 70 hrs ingame in the last 2 weeks (couldnt check for neo & taz cuz their profiles are private) it's not that much but it's not like they dont play at all

2017-07-06 03:23

3 replies

yes its is solid amount

2017-07-06 03:25

Unfortunately, quantity doesn't always equal quality. Maybe some of it has to do with the crazy changes happening in Poland?

2017-07-06 03:29

1 reply

ofcourse. you think the lineup changes are happening already?

2017-07-06 11:29

VP and Fnatic... amazing. Crazy how great they were even a year ago and how fast and far they've fallen. Nip was looking the same, but possibly staving off Father Time a bit longer

2017-07-06 03:27

3 replies

fnatic is much worse compared to VP to be fair. none of them has family except of dennis (newborn child) and VP struggled just after Las Vegas. VP has been inform since 22th May 2016 when they won starladder vs Navi, since then VP has dropped in 9,5/10 cases playoffs (not only that they always had atleast a top 4 finish in their pocket) semis, finals or a tournament win. they only had 2 tournaments when they couldn't make it to the semis! starladder season 2 (exit groupstage) and ELEAGUE Season 2 quarter finals vs FaZe in a close BO3. that is actually really good.

2017-07-06 03:43

2 replies

except dennis and olof*

2017-07-06 08:29

1 reply

olof? since when?

2017-07-06 12:11

nice bait. they wont change anything xD

2017-07-06 03:30

stay strong papa :(

2017-07-06 03:38

manewhile Botceps facebook reach new records this what we call master lvl click bait

2017-07-06 03:48

yeah my friend, cs is for people who are hungry for the game :> u guys are washed up and dont have motivation anymore... so gtfo :> #thecryisfree

2017-07-06 03:50

papa dont cry , virtus 4 ever

2017-07-06 03:53

I guess this is it then.. time to stop watching competitive cs.go for me. Hope Snax can replace allu in FaZe he deserves every victory he gets once he's on fire.

2017-07-06 04:05

Guys, write and wait for this: VP to major semis or grand finals. Papa thinks ahead of out time...

2017-07-06 04:17

If virtus.pro disbands or even changes 1 player, it'll be one of, if not the worst thing to happen in csgo. End of an era, hopefully they fight to stick together and plow again soon.

2017-07-06 04:17

2 replies

it all started with friberg leaving NiP

2017-07-06 04:27

1 reply

Agreed, at least he seems pretty content so far with being on the desk. I love the dude and being a caster/analyst would be sick, but I think him playing again in a lesser team like red reserve or epsilon would be fantastic.

2017-07-06 04:40

Any team can have a bad moment, that's what it's all about. Not always everything will be perfect, some obstacle can always appear :/

2017-07-06 04:24

0-3 in major plz

2017-07-06 04:43

Great guys and I hope they can move on to better things out of game

2017-07-06 05:12

.... change the coach and see different results. Bye Kuben, best of luck.

2017-07-06 05:15

Why be such a huge drama queen ? xd Just make like 2 roster changes, give Michu a chance lmao. A few changes and I can see vp be top 5

2017-07-06 05:17

paszaBotceps FeelsBadMan

2017-07-06 05:36

FeelsTazMan

2017-07-06 05:39

they would not be in such shit position atm if they replaced taz some time ago.

2017-07-06 05:48

No VP, no reason to watch tournaments. It was always big hype when VP playing, without them CS will be boring.

2017-07-06 05:48

1 reply

CS is already boring and it has not much to do with VP being shit.

2017-07-06 08:39

Time to shake up the line-up

2017-07-06 06:16

If they do change the lineup, MICHU will be a part of it %100. He is the best polish player other than VP and has stood in for them multiple times. Also guys remember this? x3.cdn03.imgwykop.pl/c3201142/comment_Nr.. They could get szpero as well, he is a pretty good awper along with mouz who is a great fragger aswell. Other than those three I don't really see an option.

2017-07-06 06:27

Hearing talk like this is sad, but think back on VP's CS:GO history. One of the last big teams to make the switch from 1.6, started out awful, eventually rose to the near-top, and cycled between peak and plateau ever since. It's just the nature of their form, for whatever reason. I can't think of a time since 2013 that they stayed near the top for more than a handful of months

2017-07-06 06:29

2017-07-06 06:37

So sad... they are great guys and been following them for at least 10 years...

2017-07-06 06:38

2017-07-06 06:49

refer to recent performance of vp >win the major >disband

2017-07-06 07:07

if they disband or kick 2-3 players they won't find poorlacks who will play on the same level their scene is almost non existent outside of vp

2017-07-06 07:14

On 1 hand it's really tragic if they end up splitting, the history behind this team(Zonic's mTw springs to mind as one that hurst just as much) But refinding motivation really means so much, and changes "can" do wonders. Maby take a year apart on others teams to then reunite even stronger with newfound energy/experice and again be amongst brothers in arms :)

2017-07-06 07:14

Just replace 1 for Michu, Give them the hunger to win again with a fresh new young player

2017-07-06 07:16

Thats bullshit, they've had worse periods , like. 2012 and 2013 until the line up change and katowice 2014 , before that they were nobody in csgo so , get over it and work harder

2017-07-06 07:19

keep fighting

2017-07-06 07:29

dont disbanderhino my friend :c

2017-07-06 07:42

Just Disband the team, Kick allu from faze and take snax as the AWPer. Then Faze would be the best team in the world.

2017-07-06 07:46

Sad af :(

2017-07-06 07:50

RIP VP polska 2014-2017, you had a good run and won just a major

2017-07-06 07:54

gl vp

2017-07-06 07:57

inb4 VP wins krakow

2017-07-06 07:57

no fear my friend, next time it will be better ))

2017-07-06 08:00

Hope VP will earn Legends spot again at major

2017-07-06 08:02

The amount of happy people here, show how badly they hated vp xD

2017-07-06 08:02

1 reply

))))

2017-07-06 08:40

Age is irrelevant. In functional terms, the only thing age will impact on in this game is reaction time and hand eye co-ordination. Reaction time will happen further down the line, certainly not in your 30's, hand eye co-ordination MUCH later than that. I don't see any playing reason why someone can't stay in this game until 40. Becoming a father will no doubt have an impact on performance, however, by all means it's possible to manage this given an initial period to adjust. No one here knows what's going on in the lives of each of these players and inside the team, everything on here is pure speculation. Fact of the matter is they have a large number of results under their belt, they are capable and have the skill to still win Majors. Have the players grown tired of the game? Are they suffering burnout from all the time they've given up and dedicated to the game? If they're prepared to put in the hours and improve, it's going to be a psychological issue. I would have thought an organisation such as VP would have access to a sports psychologist, I'd be shocked if they didn't. Pasha's comments certainly seem to lend weight to consigning the team to all being in the same boat. To be asking, 'What to do' it seems they're at a loss of what the issue is, again suggesting they're putting in the hours and it is something beneath the surface (psychological). I hate bringing the psychological issue up as its very much a buzz word in eSports at the moment. While it's undoubtedly needed, and great to see, a lot of people are jumping on the bandwagon with it. However, this situation screams of needing one. Again, if the players have the desire and commitment to fix this, they can certainly do it. They may have to dismantle everything and start bottom up, but the capability is certainly there. It's cliche, but if you get through this, you'll only be stronger. Every team, in every sport, is going to experience slumps in form. The best teams pull together more when things get rough and ride it out. You're at a fork in the road VP, you going left? Or going right?

2017-07-06 08:15

3 replies

+1000

2017-07-06 08:15

2017-07-06 08:23

+666666

2017-07-06 08:45

go get 0-3 in the upcoming major, ty.

2017-07-06 08:11

FeelsBadMan...

2017-07-06 08:16

noooo i hope they do smth good at the major maybe its just mind games

2017-07-06 08:18

Wether they disband or not, they are forever engraved in CS history!

2017-07-06 08:18

If they disband it will be huge step back to the csgo scene.

2017-07-06 08:18

Maybe im stupid but i sill believe in them. GO GO VP

2017-07-06 08:19

Wow I expected something like "We will strike back" or so, but they really seem to have problems this time

2017-07-06 08:20

Luq was the key...

2017-07-06 08:26

RIP virtus.pro

2017-07-06 08:26

Make this disband happen , Papa is a great guy ! He deserves better than the crying retarded VP fans..

2017-07-06 08:28

Saw what he wrote on Facebook, this article is fucking pure clickbait. It will just stir up unneeded drama, gj hltv!

2017-07-06 08:35

I hope they will find their way out. I really hope they can still have the same lineup. but we all know what happened to NiP. they tried for two years without doing anything major to their team, and finally they changed out two players and got their coatch back full time. This seems to have changed them totally from the ESL Cologne 2017 tournament. maybe its time for a change.

2017-07-06 08:37

Just win this major and leave in glory man before it'll too late, do this! :(

2017-07-06 08:42

I think that when we are in a bad moment, we think it is the end of the world and there is no solution, but there is always a solution. The evil of social networks is when we post something hot-headed and it will be for life. He should not speak what he said. I cheer for the Brazilian teams, but I'm a fan of the CS as a whole, and I appreciate the brotherhood of the members of the VP. I hope they get through this bad phase and return to the golden age.

2017-07-06 08:45

major is their last chance

2017-07-06 08:49

Reverse "from rags to richies" :( From a team that would beat anyone, to a team that can't beat mediocree teams :( In my opinion they are too much well off. Too much money and little motivation. They game says all. They have always missed something to make them a team like fnatic or SK. They had flashes of genuinely superteam, but never solidified themselves. Hopefully they sort it out and stay together.

2017-07-06 08:56

Disband hype

2017-07-06 08:56

just change byali and pasha...

2017-07-06 08:58

disband xd

2017-07-06 09:00

everything comes to it's end :)

2017-07-06 09:05

Respect Virtus.Pro

2017-07-06 09:14

I want to believe :/ come on vp!

2017-07-06 09:26

Last year everyone talked about personal changes in VP and then they back and did good job at few tournaments. In my opinion it's not personal problem becouse everyone of them can play this game better than 95% in the world. Well... You should forget about retire for some players. Maybe they have a huge problem inside team. In one of the latest interview Neo said something like "Maybe it's time for hire sport psychologist... but not every one of us want to do it. We must find solution from this situation" and "Some players prefer practice at home and don't like bootcamps. I prefer practicing at bootcamp". I think every VP player is playing for 100% but not everyone of them "believe" in tactic changes etc. so in the end the team playing "slovenly".

2017-07-06 09:29

I will always be with them, no matter what. We celebrate wins together and we cry after lose together. It wont be easy, that's obvious, but you have to reach bottom to bounce to the top.

2017-07-06 09:41

give neo oraz taz igl and snax should focus on killing everybody c'mon

2017-07-06 09:41

They re gonna rock at the major,classic virtus pro

2017-07-06 09:42

They are gonna secure their legends spots on major or eve n get to the semi's .Mark my words

2017-07-06 09:49

Snax / Byali will form the VirtusPro.Academy team. Actually, Taz should form it and then retire to become a manager in a few years time. It's time to put more commitment on a child that has already learnt to walk and talk.

2017-07-06 10:11

Just switch back to Neo-IGL, kick TaZ, and you will have a chance.

2017-07-06 10:19

pasha to team Refuse xdd asfas fajslkfasf i cant imagine that

2017-07-06 10:21

Pasha make nice clicbait post nice.

2017-07-06 10:21

It is obviously time for them to retire.

2017-07-06 10:32

They dont deserve for rekt

2017-07-06 10:38

2k17

2017-07-06 10:39

All of u kiddos getting hyped by by some facebook post that meant to sparkle shitstorm about them. they have contracts till 2020, they aint gonna disband u idiots.

2017-07-06 10:58

The men. The myths. The legends. Polish giants, the timeless powerhouse, the unbrokable giants. And now it seems they are going to be broken... Or not? It seems like they are in their biggest slump now, but now they have time to prepare for Krakow and find their last motivation. They are supposed to play that soccer match woth SK, aren't they? And maybe this all is just a theatre, one bug play, one big false. Who knows? And maybe not. We can't see into their heads. We can only see what they show us. Still don't forget about Krakow. It's their homeland. If the team needs something, it's motivation and support. Go then, Krakowians and Polaks. Go on Sunday, stand before TAURON and show them who stands behimd them. Show them who they play for, show them their logo, Polish flag, show them support. If it goes well, then.. Then you will recognize it.

2017-07-06 11:14

1 reply

2017-07-07 00:30

I hope this legend team will come back...6 months ago they were winning DH Masters ...wtf But a lineup change seems the only solution. With all the respect I have for these players, TaZ seems the one with the weakest aim. And changing IGL could be the right solution.

2017-07-06 11:29

finally disband thank god

2017-07-06 11:31

Pasha have to retire. He won't admit that he can't play with wife and two kids.

2017-07-06 12:00

It's about time for them to leave the game They already had a great carreer, stop while they're still "good" instead of getting worse performances The CS community will always be thankful to you guys

2017-07-06 12:06

1 reply

They are just having a bad time for 6 months...what's 6 months in their whole carreer? You don't need to retire each time you have downs

2017-07-06 12:18

Virtus.pro MICHU, make VP great again

2017-07-06 12:13

Pretty sure they'll be back when they start winning aim duels again. Byali didnt hit any of his shots this event. They can do this, i believe, like always : - )

2017-07-06 12:21

Those are fans of CS:GO... When teams play good they are the best,fans are writing #GOVP #GONINJAS #FAZEUP etc. and when they don't they are suggesting lineup change.... Im just gonna say if you're true fans of team/s you'll be cheering for them no matter what happens,no matter in what form they're,no matter they win or lose... Cheers boyz!

2017-07-06 13:14

1 reply

The truer words have never been spoken. Give this man a cookie.

2017-07-06 13:40

RIP VP

2017-07-06 13:33

Sad that the lost major final will kill this team. Pretty sure it would had looked different now, if they had won that.

2017-07-06 13:48

hltv.org/forums/threads/1513753/pasha-fa.. - have you hltv found this by yourselves or from my post ?

2017-07-06 13:48

Don't think they should disband. 2016 started very bad, bits of 2014 was bad. Just stick it then bash SK.

2017-07-06 14:04

Man it's really sad all this... I love VP, it was some of my favorite players. I love the fact that they stick as team trough all this years! Hope they comeback stronger then ever.

2017-07-06 14:33

i love this team, I would be very sad to see their separation

2017-07-06 14:48

Long overdue

2017-07-06 15:23

im alright with vp disbanding. im a vp fan since 2013. im a huge fan of byali, because his raw aim is absolutely amazing, but sadly hes so inconsistent that you rarely even see him getting a 3k. snax is a great player, and i hope he will rise with kinguin when VP disband. I can see taz having a future at ESL just like fifflaren or some sort of analyst. Neo is going to go back to normal life, hes old and is probably planning a family. Pasha is going to stream for himself and byali will stream or play together with snax at kinguin

2017-07-06 17:23