oskar returns to SINNERS; forsyy benched

23-11-2022 16:30

The 31-year-old is back with his former squad after eight months in the failed TITANS project.

SINNERS announced the return of star AWPer Tomáš "⁠oskar⁠" Šťastný, who joins the squad after nine months playing in the TITANS' international lineup. The European squad floundered since its inception at the beginning of the year, with no notable results to show for, and oskar even called it a "wasted year" before announcing his move back to his country's top team.

oskar departs TITANS: "What a wasted year for me once again"

The roster change also comes at a time of strife for the Czech side, who suffered an early exit from ESL Challenger League Season 43 Europe, where they placed 17-24th overall after losing back-to-back matches against Movistar Riders and K23.

The 31-year-old previously spent a year with SINNERS, from December 2020 to January 2022, and dominated the local scene while fighting in second tier tournaments, even winning the ESEA Premier Season 37 which secured the side a spot at ESL Pro League Season 14.

oskar returns to SINNERS after an eight-month stay with TITANS

David "⁠forsyy⁠" Bílý was brought on to replace oskar earlier in the year, which caused a shift in game style for SINNERS due to the AWPers' differences in approach. Sebastian "⁠beastik⁠" Daňo described the veteran sniper's style to be more adaptive to different scenarios, whereas forsyy played in a much more structured and patient approach.

beastik: "We had to change our style, oskar was really adaptive whereas forsyy likes structure"

The team's structure change didn't bear fruits, however, and SINNERS failed to qualify for the PGL Major in Antwerp from the European RMR with a heartbreaking 2-3 record. It only got worse from there, and they were then unable to progress through the IEM Road to Rio Open Qualifiers altogether after losing star rifler Adam "⁠NEOFRAG⁠" Zouhar to OG.

Though oskar has already joined SINNERS' active roster, he will not be competing in their upcoming Sazka eCUP Fall match against ECLOT and the team will still retain their previous roster featuring forsyy.

SINNERS' lineup is now:

Jindřich "⁠ZEDKO⁠" Chyba
Patrik "⁠Zero⁠" Žúdel
Sebastian "⁠beastik⁠" Daňo
Max "⁠SHOCK⁠" Kvapil
Tomáš "⁠oskar⁠" Šťastný

David "⁠forsyy⁠" Bílý (benched)

Tomáš "⁠Tomkeejs⁠" Tomka (coach)

pog

2022-11-23 16:31

3 replies

-beastik + Oscar

2022-11-23 16:54

2 replies

Bro, beastik is best IGL on czech scene

2022-11-26 16:53

1 reply

and pretty much the only one

2022-11-28 00:37

forsyy is much better and younger. WTF?

20 replies

+1 -young talent +washed up bot ???

2022-11-23 16:33

6 replies

-1 oskar is insane

2022-11-23 17:01

Expected from NA fan whenever you see any global player in mm you probably think the same

2022-11-23 18:45

Go play mirage, bot

2022-11-23 19:12

+1 oskar is really good but not 100% he is better than forssy at least anymore

2022-11-24 00:53

+1 exactly

2022-11-23 19:13

-washed talent +old motivated men

2022-11-23 19:14

maybe new team??

Prob. If not. Stupid move.

2022-11-23 16:39

agree

2022-11-23 16:40

2022-11-23 16:38

I don't understand either

2022-11-23 16:48

Forsy living room skill

2022-11-23 16:55

Younger yes better hell no. Especially in terms of fitting this team.

2022-11-23 17:27

Well, I dont know how the team chemistry is or anything like that. . If he's not fitting. It makes more sense. But still. He has so much potential. And, he still performs really good-

2022-11-23 17:31

Forsy is bot, oskar >>> and i played with both.

2022-11-23 17:34

Cuz forsy moving to better team

2022-11-23 19:08

ask oskar “two-faced” toledo

2022-11-23 20:16

hell nah not better

2022-11-24 18:50

WWW

From tier 3 to tier 3 congr congr

2022-11-23 16:32

0/8 also sinners actually pay their players :)

2022-11-24 18:51

Just retire bro

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Why? He knows he no longer has the reactions of a younger player and will never be able to play at the level he was once capable of. But he still enjoys playing the game competitively in lower tiers, and that gives him joy. Why should he retire?

2022-11-23 18:16

4 replies

2022-11-23 18:50

Measured reasonable comment

2022-11-23 19:00

2022-11-23 21:57

2022-11-24 20:08

Retire already grandpa

name

2022-11-23 17:30

#103

did they kick their best player ? WTF

+1 wtf Their best rated player kicked for Oskar???????????????????

2022-11-23 17:40

They have almost same rating from past 3 months + oskar was playing in shitty team, so his 1,15 rating is pretty good imho. And if oskar fits better to the teams playstyle, it make sense.

2022-11-23 18:09

bad move for all except oskar

+1, I miss Sinners NEOFRAG

2022-11-23 16:34

+1 team not the same without him, if NEOFRAG leaves OG for SINNERS this roster is cracked

2022-11-24 00:55

RIP forsen forsenPls

why? 0 iq move

Zero is Slovak....

forsyy was very good and very young. tf sinners?

Hopefully forsyy finds a better team

L move

2022-11-23 16:35

Czech goat

I think its not problem in forsyy that they losing games, they just play with coach meanwhile zedko has broken finger. That's a weird decision.

2022-11-23 16:37

They played really bad even with ZEDKO

2022-11-23 18:07

#14

2022-11-23 16:36

Honestly I’d definitely keep Forsyy and make One of them a rifler

+1 actually good. Oskar is pretty good with rifle too AND he already played in roster with two AWPers with ChrisJ

2022-11-24 16:46

why ruin forsyys career... why you do this oscar

I think forsy will have no issue finding a team

2022-11-23 22:44

2022-11-26 19:27

wait what

Why he hasn't retired?

goatskar

Forsyy to EG

Forsyy is being bought out by Sprout you heard it here first.

That would be smth but.....i think Slaxz would do same impact

My suggestion

2022-11-23 16:41

Please make it happen ! so happy for forssy if true he deserved better team

2022-11-23 16:49

Probably true, he left sinners by himself so very likely

2022-11-23 17:13

nop he would be bought by enterprise ,bcz h0rn and blitz got benched and i think they would go in sk/cz scene

2022-11-23 19:16

Forsyy came from enterprise, he wouldn t just take a step back again

2022-11-24 17:50

Why? Forsyy was playing actually good and u just sign a Oskar for a reason.....Someone just give Forsyy a new team coz he was robbed right now

probably has some offer from other team dont believe they would bench him for nothing when he was actually better than oskar )

as Styko said today, Oskar is always an upgrade over any cz/sk awper

2022-11-23 19:02

Forzyy going to ECLOT replacing capseN ECLOT next top 5 team

Enterprise problably

2022-11-23 18:57

Nah, h4rn doing well

2022-11-23 19:36

Enterprise wants to go full czech again. So might happen, since -h4rn and -blytz since they aint czech, which is sad, cuz they're their best players.

2022-11-23 20:17

cz/sk no only czech

2022-11-23 20:25

Maybe no,online yes but hes sucking off :D

Another wasted year incoming? Hope not

eclot might end up being better than sinners

second eternal fire xdddddd

What

wow, lets go oskar

Forsyy -> sprout

2022-11-23 16:42

GOOD IDEA but i think they will take h4rn

Could be

2022-11-23 17:00

What is that move idea? XD

2022-11-23 16:43

Didn't Oskar come out with a statement earlier about how his last time with Sinners was? D:

2022-11-23 16:44

What do you mean

hltv.org/news/35092/oskar-departs-titans..

2022-11-23 22:05

This is total mess, the only brightside is that Zero and Oskar get to play together like in old HR days. #DDPC

Oskar is a GOAT, so good for him, but they should've switched Forsyy to second awp + make him rifle more (he's super good with the rifle as well) and bench either Shock or Zedko. I like both of them, but Forsyy > Both of them any day of the week.

2022-11-23 16:45

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any of you czech ppl know why forsyy got benched? is he joining a new team because it doesnt make any sense to bench a promising awper like him and getting oskar instrad

2022-11-23 16:47

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Oskar is a legend, has almost the same rating, more experience, maybe his last chance to get to the major, I get why they'd choose him over Forsyy, but I still think they should've kept him on rifle or second awp and kick someone else instead.

2022-11-23 17:09

Oskar has better awping style Forsyy needs structure whereas oskar can adapt

2022-11-23 18:11

he s joinig enterprise

2022-11-23 19:24

i think oskar suits the team more as beastik once said he plays much more loose style then forsyy

2022-11-24 02:50

all of the responses you've received were written by clueless randoms $$$$$ Oskar came in for free, he's equally good or slightly better, so its logical to sell their best player

2022-11-24 13:57

thats actually pretty reasonable if you look from completely orgs pov

2022-11-24 18:49

Yeah Also well done, you have 10x better brain capacity than people that actually follow our scene

2022-11-24 20:58

true forsy>zedko, shock or beastik

2022-11-23 16:51

BeeStick is their IGL, so the rating close to 1.0 is acceptable, Zedko also recently stepped up, but since the last year, I'm not really amazed by Shock's performance tbh. Again, no hate, they're good people, just saying my opinion.

sinners is 2 fraggers away from t20

2022-11-23 17:04

Because Shock is playing the support role. This role is not supposed to get multikills or something. He is lurking and getting entries. Sometimes his form is a little shaky, but most of the time its about his role in the team. Kicking Zedko would be so fking dumb tbh, he is good and experienced, I don't see a reason to kick him actually

2022-11-23 18:17

wtf... returns to the team that he himself said was a waste of time.

2022-11-23 16:46

+1 forssy need better team

zero is from Slovakia

Zero – Czech, good job hltv. 😆

Such a shame.

pog back to top 30 soon

I guess his stint in SINNERS isn't one of those wasted years he mentioned when all the Titans bubble exploded.

"What a wasted year for me" He obviously meant 2022 bro

2022-11-23 18:12

Of course he was talking about 2022, but he also said "once again" implying that this could've happened before (or maybe it's a inaccurate traslation)

Maybe he meant 2019 or 2020

2022-11-23 18:19

Yeah that's what i thought, or else he wouldn't have returned

forsyy new team omfg, no reason bench for no reason cmon

2022-11-23 16:57

crying about wasted year and decides to waste another year right after :D how about getting real job next time

2022-11-23 16:59

Wasted year = no officials, no stable roster and no salary So playing in SINNERS isnt a waste

2022-11-23 18:14

Forsy probably joining an academy team

Gl oskarwOw~

As much as I love oskar, forsy is so good that this feels like a downgrade tho. Not a good move in my eyes.

2022-11-23 17:02

Welcome back

2022-11-23 17:03

0iq move

since when is Zero from Czechia?

Admins from HLTV dont watch a lot of players, they see 4 Czechs, so why not give 5 :D

2022-11-23 18:56

what?? forsyy is their best player why bench?

2022-11-23 17:06

pogger

Its so obvious they benched forsyy because he is joining a new team, like there is absolutely no other reason for why they would bench their best player for oskar in 2022

SINNERS peak with oskar - #19 SINNERS peak with forsyy - #37

2022-11-23 18:15

sinners playing with coach for quite some time now, also heard that zedko has broken finger or something, and what you said, doesn't change the fact that forsyy > oskar, also on the roster oskar played on, neofrag was playing on it too, and neofrag was their best player at the time

Forsyy was also playing with NEOFRAG and thats the peak

2022-11-23 18:20

the roster was already falling off anyways, peaks don't matter for what i tried to state in #78, forsyy is still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oskar

yeah but oskar for "free" and sell forsyy for a lot of money is worth

2022-11-23 18:41

They spent on forsyy quite much money they will be happy to sell him around that price

2022-11-23 23:18

oskar is legend but... forsy was the their best player

2022-11-23 17:16

Czechia's own Eternal Fire right here

2022-11-23 17:19

Not even close

wtf

2022-11-23 17:21

Welcome back!!!

another wasted year for Tomas Stastny?

2022-11-23 17:33

omegalul

2022-11-23 17:48

forsyy just got nawwk'd

2022-11-23 18:00

Well, that is terrible for both sides. 1) Forsyyy is (was) quite impressive filling oskar's shoes, i think pretty much no one expected that. 2) Sinners for a long time need change on another post(s) awper was never an issue. If they could get like... styko instead of beastik, or get another solid rifler, then this team can improve further. Zero also plays a bit above expectations, but overall he is still downgrade to what neofrag did. Now i expect - someone +neofrag right? :D

lmaoo benched best player on the team for papaoskar , oskar is still decent player ofc but just bench someone else and do forsy a rifler second awper ( he is insane even with rifles ) propably forsy join a new better team or this change have 0 iq

2022-11-23 18:04

bench = set on transfer list :))

bench = benched

2022-11-23 18:54

no shit man

2022-11-23 19:03

-oskar +oskar

2022-11-23 18:29

why forsyy benched xd

now + styko and u got STYKO, OSKAR, beastik, ZERO, and whatever but no Zedko wtf.. he is thrash

Idk why they benched him in the first place

He left himself for Titans. Huge mistake

2022-11-25 08:48

sad for forsen

2022-11-23 19:25

Welcome back from the truck driving

PepeHands forsaaan

2022-11-23 19:27

i hate oskar he is tier 3 player

2022-11-23 19:40

accomplished more than any turkish player

2022-11-23 20:26

xantares?

2022-11-24 13:56

hltv.org/player/7938/xantares#tab-trophi.. hltv.org/player/798/oskar#tab-trophiesBo.. ? xantares never won anything, oskar won ESL One NY

2022-11-24 14:34

nobody cares esl one ny

2022-11-24 19:56

cope, keep crying

2022-11-24 20:06

Lmao

2022-11-23 19:57

forsyy - "What a wasted year for me"

2022-11-23 20:06

They placed him on bench , which means they are looking to sell him, which will make up some money towards them. Also Oskar was better fit for Sinners + he was a free agent so why not? Forsyy has a big future ahead , i hope he will get picked up by some T2 team, instead of being stuck in CzechoSlovakia, but rumors said he will join Sampi/Ep

2022-11-23 20:07

sampi/ep will be massive step back so i hope that he will get a chance in international squad..

2022-11-23 21:34

rumors :))))

2022-11-23 22:01

He left them, then they found young talent who clearly was the best player in their squad, and now he's back and they kick forsyy? What the hell is this decision? I don't like it.

2022-11-23 21:59

Hard to replace forsy

2022-11-23 22:03

hopefully he won't betray them again for another "wasted year" in a shitty org

2022-11-23 23:20

-Shock +MATYS

2022-11-23 23:43

WOHOOOO MY THE MOST FAV PLAYER SINCE 2015 IS FCKING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #DDPC

2022-11-24 00:10

#DDPC

2022-11-24 10:31

2022-11-24 22:12

DDPC

2022-11-25 08:47

Expected

2022-11-24 00:42

He deserves a better team

2022-11-24 12:45

Welcome back Oskar ;)) good memories from Mousesports

2022-11-24 13:07

This makes 0 sense

2022-11-24 15:49

awww forsyy really became a player i loved watching and was great for this team, I would of much rather saw zero or beastik on the chopping block but its understandable because of roles. only up from here I hope for forsyy guy is nuts :)

2022-11-24 19:55

Bro's last few years have been him wasting away in tier 2/3 cs, genuinely sad to see considering he was an elite world-class awper throughout 2017 and 2018.

2022-11-24 23:09