Could s1mple "trace" himself?

Swept up on the winds of change of a new game, the GOAT's decision to take a hiatus could come back to haunt him.

s1mple is not feeling (CS2), thank you

CS:GO is gone, long live CS:GO. And although it has the same varnishes and trappings of CS:GO’s skins and maps, CS2 is an entirely new animal of a game. This is to be expected for a game ported to a newer engine (Source 2) which retains the Source codebase for some things but also includes plenty of overhauls that affect movement, positioning, and aiming.

This kinesthetic and game-feel difference is being perceived most strongly by two different user pools: by the casual-competitive layman with several thousands of hours sunk into the game (as evinced by users writing PhD-level papers on creating a desubticked movement), and by the professional players. The various observations across the two groups indicate that the game feels different than CS:GO, and frankly, weird at times.

The greatest player in CS:GO history, Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev, has been particularly vocal about his dislike of CS2. But more on him later.

We have seen numerous posts and tweets about the changed feeling of sprays, the subticked hit registration ("what you see is what you get" may go down as one of the best memes of the game’s history and we’re less than two months in), subticked movement, desynced animations, inconsistent jump heights, etc.

To the John Everyman trying to enjoy the game, it is certainly enough whinging to make one’s head spin (and hearkens back to the early CS:GO days on the forums) but, like everything in life, there is a kernel of truth hidden under the layers of resistance to change. CS2 does feel different — and it does play differently.

The hehepeek may be dead but quirks in CS2 gameplay continue to abound

With the game also undergoing weekly updates that impact its networking, animations, and interpolation, that means the "feeling of CS" will continue to drift away from any sort of mooring it may have had to the end state feeling of CS:GO. And with that drift will blow the winds of change, skirling the snows of muscle memory to the air.

And so our hypothetical train of discussion arrives at its first station of speculation to ask: How will this impact the tens of thousands of hours that professional players have invested into CS:GO? Will this destabilize the understood hierarchy of the greats, the top teams, and the legends of the game in the months prior to CS2's release?

"To grind or not to grind 80+ hours every 2 weeks, that is the question"

So far, going off IEM Sydney and online tournaments, early signs are positively indicating that disruptions are minimal. FaZe are beginning an undefeated Cinderella run despite persistent roster rumors, Dzhami "⁠Jame⁠" Ali seems to be JAMEing, and the top teams are making use of new game mechanics (like blowing through smokes or abusing the new bomb radius) to the best of their ability.

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But this wouldn’t be a debut feature article by yours truly if we didn’t feel the need to posit a wild question. Could s1mple "trace" himself?

Thinking along this hypothesis, our train next arrives at a station on the outskirts of Warsaw, Poland, looking for a particular persona. We do not dawdle overlong before collecting s1mple and the train’s whistle sounds as we leave the station, off to an uncertain and grainy future.

With the indisputable GOAT of CS:GO, s1mple, stepping away from the game as a competitive player and potentially involving himself in some other project, is there a real chance that the game’s best player will go out like a planetary nebula and fade as a white dwarf?

We should quickly mention that s1mple also referenced taking care of the people in his life when stepping away. It is a lot harder to connect the release of a new game to personal issues, so we are purely discussing his open dislike of CS2 itself in his decision to step back from competition.

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Who is CS:GO’s greatest-ever player?

To study this hypothesis, we need to brush up on our ancient history. There are plenty of newer CS aficionados who don’t recall the CS:GO of 2012 and how it laid waste to some of the greats of 1.6 and Source who transitioned over reluctantly and didn't sink the hours required into a new game. For every 2013 Ninjas in Pyjamas, there is a Yegor "⁠markeloff⁠" Markelov, or a Jakub "⁠kuben⁠" Gurczyński, or a Alexander "⁠xek⁠" Zobkov. These were aging players who awoke to a brave new world and suddenly found that they could not move within the different map layout, entirely different grenade physics, or sliding "ice skating" feeling that people originally ascribed to CS:GO when it came out.

markeloff is a player who famously never hit his stride in GO

There is no player who exemplifies this Bill-Murray-in-Tokyo feeling better than Martin "⁠trace⁠" Heldt. Ranked third-best player in the world by HLTV in 2010, and fourth-best in 2011, trace was poised to be a player who would define late-stage CS 1.6 for his aggression, high in-game intelligence, and graceful movement and shooting. But then Hidden Path had the idea to make a console port of Counter-Strike which was hot dog water. Valve rightfully moved in to pick up the pieces of that dumpster fire and thus was born the imperfect Frankenstein's monster that became today’s cherished CS:GO.

Father Time came for trace early on and hit him with the Coach DLC

trace moved into CS:GO with the rest of them but, unlike his coevals Patrik "⁠f0rest⁠" Lindberg and Christopher "⁠GeT_RiGhT⁠" Alesund, he seemingly found himself unable to get a feel for the game. After a few months of play with the likes of Michael "⁠Friis⁠" Jørgensen, Andreas "⁠MODDII⁠" Fridh, Andreas "⁠Xyp9x⁠" Højsleth, and even Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen, he soon bowed out of the team and out of the game, citing a dislike of CS:GO in general.

Although trace did return later for a brief stint on a geriatric mTw and then moved into coaching, many were left wondering if a brightly burning candelabra hadn’t been snuffed out too early by the circumstances of fate, time, and demotivation.

"Heldt me, I've vanished without a trace"

For a player whom many viewed as the next big prodigy in CS 1.6 to fade so suddenly into the night came as a surprise to some observers, but this kind of wilting tends to be overshadowed by the blossoming of other flowers in a new venture — namely Ninjas in Pyjamas and their legendary run. People soon forget the bypassed landmarks along the tracks, and questions about who or what could have been in 1.6 faded into backroom discussion parlors of the internet, doubly so when the Arms Deal update released skins and changed the face of CS forever.

Now we find ourselves on the footsteps of the CS2 hills, awaiting to see which direction Valve will wildly swing the railroad switch and thus steer the game. With s1mple stepping away, you can see where a train-engineer-disguised-as-a-feature-writer could be left wondering about potential disaster looming on the tracks ahead. Will our simple caboose roll across that snowbound wasteland in these early months? Even if s1mple continues streaming the game, playing FACEIT, and abusing his teammates for their willy-nilly faux pas, will that guarantee he has the mindset, the fortitude, and the drive to stay current?

Rest not on your laurels, young Kostyliev

This comes on the heels of s1mple having his rating dip into territory unseen since 2016, and is doubly gauged to the track of players fading in KPR and Rating as they age (see the excellent article on this by Harry "NER0" Richards below). When all these factors are considered, it seems clear that the longer he stays away, even ostensibly entertaining other offers outside of Natus Vincere, s1mple really risks dropping off from the skill ceiling he previously worked so hard to raise and attain.

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Sports and CS:GO history are littered with comebacks. Michael Jordan left the NBA after 1994 to play baseball of all things and came back to give the Bulls three more championships. Nicolai "⁠device⁠" Reedtz had his entire personal miniseries of Twilight play out in Sweden before he regained his senses and went back to banging heads. Cédric "⁠RpK⁠" Guipouy appears to spawn outside of his Father’s car shop and decides he wants to play computer games every five years. In competitive disciplines in life, once you possess the baseline training hours and the genetic instinct for your field, returning to the fore is like riding a very wobbly bicycle to the top of a hill, difficult but doable.

But returning to a competitive form is not the same as remaining the GOAT. With s1mple's legacy already being hounded by Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut and plenty of new prodigies lurking in the wings, I have to make the bold and entirely scientific prediction that every month s1mple spends away from competing on a top team decreases his chances of being a Top 5 Player of 2024, the first full year on CS2, by 12.5%. A small piggybank fund will be set up for forum posters to deposit P250 Sand Dunes should I be right come December next year.

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One for the future: donk

As we look forward to the new legacies, new stories, new rivalries, and new histories that CS2 will inevitably bring with it, the inexorable march of time chugs onwards and we also have to be mindful of the past. The train that we boarded a long while back when s1mple flew into Los Angeles and was just a scared Ukrainian kid being looked after by Liquid’s management seems like a distant quaint thing. Through all the ensuing years of memes, stellar performances, and accolades, we are now rumbling into an unknown future with a conductor missing at the helm. And as the snows swirl around our dusk-chugging train, we are left wondering if in CS2 s1mple may simply vanish without a trace.

France Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Age:
34
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1497
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
Sweden Andreas 'MODDII' Fridh
Andreas 'MODDII' Fridh
Age:
34
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1170
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Poland Jakub 'kuben' Gurczyński
Jakub 'kuben' Gurczyński
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
169
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Michael 'Friis' Jørgensen
Michael 'Friis' Jørgensen
Age:
34
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
938
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.64
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1755
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.16
Maps played:
1950
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
33
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
2226
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.69
Russia Alexander 'xek' Zobkov
Alexander 'xek' Zobkov
Age:
36
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
-
Maps played:
0
KPR:
-
DPR:
-
Russia Dzhami 'Jame' Ali
Dzhami 'Jame' Ali
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
1369
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.54
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1146
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1209
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Age:
28
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
2188
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Martin 'trace' Heldt
Martin 'trace' Heldt
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
125
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.65
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
2112
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.65
Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.24
Maps played:
1723
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.63
#1
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Finland ramtamme
i believe
2023-11-06 22:20
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#5
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Brazil hfdjk
Let's face the reality, he was already been surpassed by ZywOo in CSGO.
2023-11-06 22:22
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#8
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Finland ramtamme
in csgo, nah in cs2 most likely he'll surpass s1mple
2023-11-06 22:23
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#12
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Brazil hfdjk
This is the 2023 stats from CSGO: hltv.org/stats/players?csVersion=CSGO&st.. S1mple was already dipping. By surpassed i dont mean ZywOo has more history than s1mple, just that hes performing better.
2023-11-06 22:24
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#25
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Ukraine StaNiUA
+1 Maybe S1mple also understand that he already not the best in cs:go, he feels downgrade and in cs2 it'll be just harder and harder. Leave on peak and don't destroy your legacy
2023-11-06 22:37
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Your broken English makes it so hard to decipher what you mean. Do you mean ''He was already BEING surpassed in CSGO by Zywoo'' or ''He has BEEN surpassed by zywoo in CSGO''?
2023-11-06 22:48
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#47
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Brazil hfdjk
True. He was surpassed by ZywOo in CSGO (in 2023).
2023-11-06 22:58
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Okay, yes. Definitely in 2023, but I still give the edge to s1mple for the entirety of CSGO. That might just be because Zywoo is younger and came onto the scene at a later date.
2023-11-06 23:05
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+1 Simply true. Zywoo needs 3 more years at the top
2023-11-07 00:08
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Well, i don't want to look into years and age of players, so i will do it off from the top of my head... But if you consider that S1mple took like at least 4 years to develop (he started playing in 2014 iirc) and become top 1 material, you could say Zywoo is better. Zywoo did the same path in less years (he arrived in tier2/3 in 2017 and tier1 in late 2018) and competed toe to toe with S1mple while carrying a dying french scene for at least 1 year. He became top 1 in 1 year... I don't really remember a rookie being that good (although you could say coldzera was pretty monster too, but i guess he was older too). If i would bet, i would say s1mple has already peaked while Zywoo has room to maintain his game. You could say S1mple is the goat for consistency in being top 3, but i guess Zywoo has the gift for the game.
2023-11-07 06:48
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difference being one the three is a proven cheater. spoil he comes from LATAM
2023-11-07 08:26
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s1mple is literally a proven cheater who got banned
2023-11-07 11:31
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From everything i wrote, you get mad with the most irrelevant part? Lmao
2023-11-07 13:19
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#154
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland LuboDai
Leave it to HLTV to go after grammar when both of the sentences essentially means the same thing and claim you don't understand what he meant. You see North Americans with worse written English here every single day. What he said was very easy to understand because no matter how you twist the words it ends up meaning he surpassed s1mple in csgo. Hardly a reason to be a dick about it
2023-11-07 09:47
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They don't mean the same thing.... Just shows how awful your English is. I wasn't attacking his English though, I was simply trying to understand what he meant. Good thing you took offense like a little girl and the other poster clarified his comment.
2023-11-07 13:48
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Plus, he only meant in 2023, which he specified in his reply. So your interpretation of his initial comment is wrong. You must have a very thin skin if you thought I was being a dick about it. I know there are North Americans with worse English. All I was trying to do was understand if he meant Zywoo had surpassed s1mple for the entirety of CSGO, or if he was on his way to surpassing s1mple but ran out of time. His first comment didn't make that distinction because one verb wasn't used in the correct tense.
2023-11-07 14:21
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#190
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland LuboDai
What is wrong with your reading comprehension? I said "no matter how you twist the words it ends up essentially meaning he surpassed s1mple in csgo" at what point did I specify a timeline there? Nor is there anything indicating in his words that there was a specific time when Zywoo surpassed S1mple. I'm well aware what he said and didn't say. The way I see it, it's you who calls my english awful, and me a little girl, so makes me wonder which one is the thin skinned one. The reason why I replied in the first place was because to me, it looked very clear, despite my awful English.
2023-11-07 15:50
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After he corrected himself, he clearly said he meant zywoo specifically surpassed him in 2023. You're just arguing for the sake of it. His first comment didn't specify the timeline and he made a mistake with the verb tense, so it was confusing.
2023-11-07 16:21
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Seems like you are quite stupid
2023-11-07 17:22
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''he was already been surpassed by ZywOo in CSGO.'' Is not proper English and doesn't make sense, but the poster corrected himself. You and the other idiot above are just making a bigger deal than it really is.
2023-11-07 18:01
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#52
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Ukraine KeIIaCo
all you have to do is switch from 2023 to all time, and you'll see s1mple at the top
2023-11-06 23:02
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#55
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Brazil hfdjk
All time LAN (top30): hltv.org/stats/players?csVersion=CSGO&st.. All time Big Events (top30): hltv.org/stats/players?csVersion=CSGO&st.. Pretty much same stats.
2023-11-06 23:08
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#58
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Ukraine KeIIaCo
second stat look at the diff in maps and rounds played? twice more and only 0.1 stat less
2023-11-06 23:17
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lmao s1mple has like almost double the rounds of zywoo .. zywoo could never attain that rating over that amount of time. not to mention carrying whole teams to Major finals at age of 17
2023-11-08 21:52
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lol, s1mple got ruled by taco 2 major in sequence, choked in the finals while playing with elige and prime Hiko. He was the best player, but he was far from carrying, like he did at navi with zeus and washed edward and flamie, but never achieved nothing like zywoo never achieved nothing while carrying RPK, NBK, Alex, Apex, shox, misutaaa, kyojin. Anyway, Vitality was a bigger trouble with those guys than navi with those. And when Zywoo got good teammates he won the Major. Only time can tell if zywoo will be able to sustain this rating for that amount of time, but he already achieved same accolades than s1mple, but did it in less time.
2023-11-12 09:22
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#163
Faceit level 10  | 
s1mple | 
Ukraine Palamar
Zywoo is not worst then s1mple for sure, he is a great player, but comparing their 2023 is just stupid, zywoo had the strongest and highly motivated team, where s1mple's NaVi were a drowning ship which was abandoned by 3 players right after the major, then they created a fully new roster, and switched the language. Change those 2 places, put s1mple in vitality and zywoo in navi and it would be the opposite. (not hater, I actually like zywoo)
2023-11-07 11:15
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#64
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Afghanistan Pewpo
Zywoo was getting surpassed by broky.
2023-11-06 23:33
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#164
Faceit level 10  | 
s1mple | 
Ukraine Palamar
zywoo is much younger, so it's not a big surprise, he also seem to has a much better work ethique, and even if s1mple would not be top1, but top10 it's not that much of a deal, especially now.
2023-11-07 11:20
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#212
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Denmark Legend42p
you are so fucking stupid. Simple is in contention for best esports player of all time. You are out here arguing about cs :D
2023-11-08 17:09
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I too believe hes washed
2023-11-07 00:08
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why do you write such a brief comment if you didn't even read the article?
2023-11-07 00:13
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#115
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Finland ramtamme
i wanted to be the first
2023-11-07 02:55
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2 replies
i apreciate the honesty
2023-11-11 22:25
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#220
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Finland ramtamme
thank you
2023-11-12 03:09
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#202
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine kalitajke
I can fly
2023-11-07 21:01
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Australia poppyxox
bruh
2023-11-06 22:21
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#3
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Germany Gabbah
I mean they have a valid point tbh
2023-11-06 22:21
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3 replies
s1mple streaming a lot playing CS2 at FPL with other pros
2023-11-07 07:24
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The first part of the article is very interesting, to see how the change of game can impact one's legacy The second part though... In my opinion it misses something very important : Personality Just take f0rest and GeT_RiGhT for example Both were in the debate for Top1 back in the days, and both tried to grind to stay at the top But one stayed relevant until he decided to step down from Tier1 to chase a better quality of life The other one forced CS at the expense of his health and performance and in the end his reputation was tarnished So a question would be : Is it better to leave at the top, or to grind when your life is not well set and to risk destroying your hard-earned reputation? If s1mple's life doesn't allow him to properly grind, and if his motivation is too low to practice efficiently, I believe he shouldn't force it on himself if his performance suffers from it. dev1ce disappeared and came back with an honorable performance, of course he won't be top1 2023 but maybe 2024 if he finds the right team, there's no shame in missing a year if it allows you to come back stronger. S1mple will always be the GOAT of CSGO, and deciding if he wants to try to be the GOAT of CS2 is another debate, but he has achieved enough to stay in the hall of fame of CS forever.
2023-11-07 08:39
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Is it better to leave at the top, or to grind when your life is not well set and to risk destroying your hard-earned reputation? kek, only reason to quit at the top is to move to something better. might not be financially better but in some way. RPK quit at the top TWICE to do what he pleases. also came back strong coz he probably only did it knowing he had the motivation. guys like f0rest and gtr just are gamers, f0rest talks about it openly, all he ever did was play. thats why he was so damn good. what else are they gonna do?
2023-11-07 16:17
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Russia veloxman
what dis mean
2023-11-06 22:21
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#9
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Israel avivpro13
So in CS:GO it would been 8-7 right? but i wanna ask which team take 8 round if its 6-6 in CS2?
2023-11-06 22:23
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#14
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Russia veloxman
idk
2023-11-06 22:26
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exactly this
2023-11-06 22:26
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Prof the only hltv staff member down with the memes💯💯
2023-11-07 02:15
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2 replies
u dont know him
2023-11-07 08:54
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u dont know me
2023-11-07 10:58
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Lmao, this was definitely the thread in recent times
2023-11-06 23:04
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JW was right
2023-11-06 22:22
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Markeloff 2.0
2023-11-06 22:22
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#11
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Finland HARD4ENCE
+1
2023-11-06 22:24
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#84
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada epmd
sadge but true
2023-11-07 00:26
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lol You're delusinal.- markeloff was transitioning from a completely different game. CS2 is CSGO with some rough edges at this moment.
2023-11-07 10:35
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There are a lot of similarities how both of them handled transition
2023-11-07 11:41
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That goes out the window given it's basically the same game and s1mple has been wanting to take a break for 2 years now
2023-11-07 15:57
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#177
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Canada epmd
while you are correct, you are also incorrect
2023-11-07 14:12
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#10
Faceit level 10  | 
bladee | 
Finland m1ska
didnt think id see "hot dog water" be used in a hltv article
2023-11-06 22:24
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3 replies
+1 stopped reading at that point
2023-11-06 23:39
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-1 i like interesting language as opposed to "bad performance"
2023-11-07 08:44
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I don't mind "interesting language" but the phrase "dog water" is something only 12 year olds and childlike adults use
2023-11-07 09:27
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#13
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Finland tailal
lol why roasting trace
2023-11-06 22:25
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2 replies
dude minding his own business, gets roasted 10yr later
2023-11-06 22:42
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Imagine waking up in the morning to have your coffee and read an article on HLTV and you're being flamed by it. lol Kind of funny to think about. I know they meant no harm and only used him as an example, but still, it's funny.
2023-11-07 00:01
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#15
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United States kriksB
jesus
2023-11-06 22:26
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Could s1mple move to valorant? makes a better headline
2023-11-06 22:26
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#18
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Paraguay LifeHater
Honestly this would never be written by today's HLTV and it's a nice feeling of nostalgia reading an article that reminds me so much of old HLTV
2023-11-06 22:27
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#121
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States BGS
only fitting that it was stich who wrote it! Was great.
2023-11-07 03:53
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#19
Faceit level 7  | 
Bonfire | 
San Marino twovetti
fun article. gj stich :D
2023-11-06 22:27
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2 replies
+1 very well written
2023-11-06 22:50
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+1 also that phd lvl papers are something else
2023-11-07 08:37
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simple moving to valorant
2023-11-06 22:27
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jimi "jimpphat" salo is the future cs2 goat!
2023-11-06 22:28
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s1mple isn't trace and the transition from 1.6->CSGO isn't even comparable to CS:GO->CS2 . CS2 is a an unpolished CS:GO game with better graphics.
2023-11-06 22:30
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L take. mofos does not know that CSGO is more unpolished when release compare to CS2 💀
2023-11-07 05:52
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cant be a L take if you didnt understand my point. And I agree. CSGO was a mess at lanuch and CS3 is much more of a finished product
2023-11-07 10:34
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There’s no 3 m in valve
2023-11-10 12:13
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#149
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Valid point but we are only at the beginning of CS2. A few years down the line with updates the game could be a whole lot different compared to now.
2023-11-07 09:04
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#23
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
United States plsnopermaban
this is one of the worst written articles ive ever read on hltv
2023-11-06 22:30
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12 replies
#26
Faceit level 10  | 
United Kingdom zouhaun
im sorry that you cant read bro
2023-11-06 22:37
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8 replies
+1
2023-11-06 22:39
0
+1
2023-11-06 22:49
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#39
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
United States plsnopermaban
i can read perfectly fine, just an absurd amount of references and metaphors makes it look like a high schooler wrote it. i'd prefer if the comparison of s1mple to trace wasn't stich trying to show off every little piece of pop culture and meme culture he knows.
2023-11-06 22:49
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#85
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
Back when I was writing these articles in 2014-2016, I faced the same critiques from a few readers. Since I have the personality of a firebrand and of a satirist, when I sit down and write, this is just how everything comes out naturally and it brings me great pleasure to write. I really don't have to put any effort into it, most of the references and memes are already in the first draft when I hit a flow state. There are many other great writers on HLTV plying their trade with focuses on statistics, history, and events from a more objective perspective. You are more than welcome to read their articles and ignore mine.
2023-11-07 00:29
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#93
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Czech Republic JakamanCZ
Sorry, but it really reads like a high-schoolers essay, the kind we write to feel and look smart, and the one we cringe at when we grow older. It´s not the subject or the choice of form, it´s the writing style. It reads like you tried (doesn´t matter if you actually did) to put the maximum of obscure, "clever" words and references in it, which makes it borderline unreadable, it frankly just looks ridiculous. That´s my honest opinion anways.
2023-11-07 00:59
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1 reply
+1
2023-11-09 18:46
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#97
EliGE | 
Brazil fabas
+1 pic descriptions with those joke phrases felt really bad
2023-11-07 01:23
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#132
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Belarus Azy_421
+1
2023-11-07 06:46
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#44
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United States Chuffer
I can’t believe they are citing Reddit
2023-11-06 22:53
0
+1 hard agree
2023-11-07 12:07
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+1
2023-11-08 21:57
0
Retired
2023-11-06 22:34
0
S1mple is top5 2023? He did nothing
2023-11-06 22:38
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i like this article it was funny and nerdy and eloquent welcome stich!!
2023-11-06 22:38
0
Cool article, different vibe than what I'm used to seeing on HLTV articles but welcomed nonetheless
2023-11-06 22:39
0
one can only hope
2023-11-06 22:41
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#33
S1ren | 
Russia bult0
HLTV +stich is THE roster move of this transfer window
2023-11-06 22:43
0
very entertaining article, more please!!
2023-11-06 22:45
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#36
Faceit level 10  | 
frozen | 
Slovakia RetardedCat
" small piggybank fund will be set up for forum posters to deposit P250 Sand Dunes should I be right come December next year." stich u r a GOAT xD welcome back
2023-11-06 22:46
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#41
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Bulgaria ba6ta_v1
Idk if to laugh or to cry :D stich better go back to chatting on steam
2023-11-06 22:52
0
Banger article 💯
2023-11-06 22:53
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#43
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United States Chuffer
“ CS:GO is gone, long live CS:GO. And although it has the same varnishes and trappings of CS:GO’s skins and maps, CS2 is an entirely new animal of a game. This is to be expected for a game ported to a newer engine (Source 2) which retains the Source codebase for some things but also includes plenty of overhauls that affect movement, positioning, and aiming.” We are citing some redditor as our source now?
2023-11-06 22:53
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#45
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United States Chuffer
“ as evinced by users writing PhD-level papers on creating a desubticked movement),” This is considered PhD level now?
2023-11-06 22:55
0
This has some forums tldr thread vibe I like it
2023-11-06 22:55
0
No way an official hltv post is the equivalent of your average delusional fan/hater thead
2023-11-06 22:58
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#56
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United States Chuffer
I can’t believe they’re citing this Redditor, the conclusion is so bad.
2023-11-06 23:07
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2023-11-06 23:00
0
"geriatric mTw", youre mean bro lol
2023-11-06 23:01
0
GOAT? what
2023-11-06 23:02
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#57
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Norway Gjellan
If you think that’s phd level lmao it’s maybe a bachelors degree level
2023-11-06 23:08
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"A small piggybank fund will be set up for forum posters to deposit P250 Sand Dunes should I be right come December next year." :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2023-11-06 23:21
0
TLDR
2023-11-06 23:30
0
I fw the writing heavy It reads like an actual user wrote this
2023-11-06 23:31
0
Best days of Simple are gone for some quite time. Wtf is this article about? He hates CS2, he's crying all the time. You can't expect anything from him with his current attitude.
2023-11-06 23:33
0
What most probably happened - " i want to be a rifler now, Awp isnt as good, wont be able to top scoreboards " - " Nope, youll stick to Awp. You cant change anything you want anytime you want " - " if you dont let me go rifle then ill quit " - " Go on f kid, we had enough
2023-11-06 23:35
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2 replies
+1
2023-11-07 02:36
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markeloff moment
2023-11-07 07:27
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#66
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Germany hltvfinest
why trace himself, hes going Valorant not Overwatch.
2023-11-06 23:37
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#67
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
why would it haunt him? its a shitty unfinished game. updated ever other day, if there ever was a time to take a break from this circus, now is it. I have a hard time understanding people worrying too much about it
2023-11-06 23:37
0
I was not expected this article
2023-11-06 23:39
0
Who cares? Broky is better anyways
2023-11-06 23:43
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#71
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Sweden Vrede
just give him a space for getting better
2023-11-06 23:46
0
That’s messed up
2023-11-06 23:47
0
Best article I've read on here. Created an account just to leave this comment. GJ Stitch, really entertaining read.
2023-11-07 00:06
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"Father Time came for trace early on and hit him with the Coach DLC" XDDDDDDDDDDDD I LAUGHED WAY MORE THAN I SHOULD'VE AT THAT
2023-11-07 00:13
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The game is trash, not simple fault
2023-11-07 00:18
0
Great article from Funny captions guy
2023-11-07 00:18
0
2 replies
#87
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
das me
2023-11-07 00:38
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1 reply
ily
2023-11-07 00:39
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#81
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Sri Lanka gg2re
who?
2023-11-07 00:22
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#82
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Brazil Gebruel
"CS:GO is gone, long live CS:GO" Someone pls fix
2023-11-07 00:22
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if i posted this on the forums i'd get a one week vacation feelsbadman
2023-11-07 00:24
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s0mple just afraid of challenge
2023-11-07 00:30
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1 reply
The Challanger go to bakhmut
2023-11-07 02:05
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Knew while reading, that this had to be a Stich article. Very enjoyable to read this very unique style of writing once again!
2023-11-07 00:38
0
What a silly written article
2023-11-07 00:47
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#91
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Denmark Saithz
Good article, more enlightening than the usual dull stats focused articles
2023-11-07 00:50
0
He will made batter cmbck than tyson fury
2023-11-07 00:58
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hehepeek? it's michael jackson peek
2023-11-07 01:21
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2 replies
call it what you want, keep cringe
2023-11-07 02:33
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1 reply
i dont understand where the writer gets that word from, is has been mj peek the minute that bug was known to public
2023-11-08 01:58
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#95
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
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United States tahawus
Purple prose af. Writer needs some Hemingway in his life. Not a terrible article but over stylized imo.
2023-11-07 01:22
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#96
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Finland sway777
Most entertaining article i've ever read on hltv
2023-11-07 01:22
0
2 replies
holy shit I was thinking the exact opposite
2023-11-07 01:30
0
1 reply
+1
2023-11-07 03:54
0
read the whole thing, nice article 👍
2023-11-07 01:30
0
the tone of this took me by surprise, actually fun to have something like this once in a while. thanks for the read!
2023-11-07 01:47
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2023-11-07 01:57
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#102
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
roman | 
Portugal MUTIRIS_VAC_SHOT
This felt like reading an elaborated shitpost on the forums lmaooo
2023-11-07 02:05
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i think deep down he feels betrayed by his org NAVI. He wanted to play with his brother electronic and perfecto but Navi demanded them unreasonable things so they left, then navi brought aleksibot and iM to make things worse if they make a CIS or full ukrainian roster for him he'll feel motivated again
2023-11-07 02:08
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people act like s1mple is going to just stop playing for a year... he will be on a new team in a month max
2023-11-07 02:21
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#107
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United States 2046
If they fix peekers advantage he’ll be back in a week, the game just blows rn, way too random
2023-11-07 02:27
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2 replies
kinda pointless to hold any angles right now
2023-11-07 02:46
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i think their intention is to maintain that peekers advantage sadly
2023-11-07 02:55
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#108
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Finland Tusku
CS:GO is gone, long live CS:GO. yes
2023-11-07 02:33
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#111
Faceit level 9  | 
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United States xollin
good read mr stich
2023-11-07 02:42
0
sick captions
2023-11-07 03:24
0
Best piece I've seen on hltv in a good while, one of the few times I've checked the author to find more of their work lol
2023-11-07 03:31
0
"what you see is what you get" is CS2's equivalent of Valorant's "you don't kill with abilities"
2023-11-07 03:34
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2 replies
#153
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Poland n3on_
What does it mean? You can't really kill with abilities that much. It is like dying to nade
2023-11-07 09:34
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1 reply
How it started: > You can't really kill with abilities How it's going: > that much.
2023-11-08 02:23
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God tier article right here! Gave me a few laughs here and there 😂😂
2023-11-07 03:40
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How do I report article? 0/8 for "s1mp is goat"
2023-11-07 03:55
0
Well, the question is legit
2023-11-07 04:06
0
What a wasted of server space this article
2023-11-07 04:24
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Excellent article. Wasn't a CS follower when you wrote your older stuff, but this is a fun read and I look forward to more. Every competitive pursuit needs writers like this, who riff and relate and break the fourth wall. It adds something to the community you simply can't get another way. For Americans, it's like Sports Illustrated - it's not just about the events and stats, it's about the storytelling, with events and stats as pillars supporting the story.
2023-11-07 04:38
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#188
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
Thanks! That's exactly the niche I'm looking to fill, and the HLTV team agree. Unlike the old days I have secured the bag in life through other ventures and now I can focus on pure storytelling since my passion has always been creative writing.
2023-11-07 15:16
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#127
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
Device is basically the CSGO equivalent to trace. They were shockingly similar players, and it's kind of unfortunate trace didn't gel with CSGO. But also s1mple can't be a coach, he'd be way too critical.
2023-11-07 04:42
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I enjoyed the reading but this article should be very difficult to comprehend for people who are not fluent on English. Too much references and unusual words. For a website that is the baseline of the worldwide CS community, the reading needs to be easier. Just my personal opinion, no hate on the person who wrote it.
2023-11-07 05:19
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Washed
2023-11-07 06:19
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S1mple will prob join cloud9 since sh1ro is gone but I doubt it
2023-11-07 06:25
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#133
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Belarus Azy_421
W article
2023-11-07 06:48
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really good article, enjoyed it a lot, stich is SO back
2023-11-07 07:03
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overdoing it a bit with the flowery language the part about simple with nebula and his career ending as a white dwarf come on bro, just say it clearly once and then u can go back to using 4 analogies per sentence :D goodarticle still
2023-11-07 07:45
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Staff writers are obsessed with s1 for some reason. Not just his gameplay but his personal life and so on, like he’s some kind of bona fide celebrity. Zywoo gets a mention, but of course he has nothing really going on for him outside the game, kinda like Messi. I say leave him alone and focus on the active players.
2023-11-07 07:53
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Kinda pointless read, it is well written has some good laughs and pararells but it lacks depth. There is no meat on that plate just some basic facts that everyone who was following CS scene allready knows.
2023-11-07 08:16
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Great writing stich.
2023-11-07 08:29
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Nice article, well written and entertaining, GJ
2023-11-07 08:33
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#148
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark slacking
s0mple completly done its joever
2023-11-07 09:00
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I haven't been reading much news recently, but the change of writing style is quite refreshing. I actually prefer this kind of writing over some of the old news that used unnecessarily complex words just to make the wording sound "classy".
2023-11-07 09:23
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#152
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Austria gex0r
btw since he's mentioned in the article, wtf happened to Andreas "⁠MODDII⁠" Fridh ? always wondered. 1.6 legend+he was decent in heroic
2023-11-07 09:32
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Refreshing article
2023-11-07 09:43
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Fuk’n Simple man. Grow some balls We’ve already seen Monesy, Broky, Jame use the awp nearly identically to CsGO. Yes there’s an adjustment period and slight differences in style but not world ending. It’s still highly impactful
2023-11-07 10:35
0
Great read
2023-11-07 10:35
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#160
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Malaysia Rich1eG0h
End of an era for s1mple
2023-11-07 10:42
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#165
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Bulgaria BroN
hahahaha i readet "could s1mple toutch himself?"
2023-11-07 11:30
0
Nice article.
2023-11-07 11:33
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#169
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland camarpl
Yeah but trace lives in Denmark man... he probably barely made minimum wage in 1.6, I wouldn't be surprised if he HAD to stop playing and start working cause of lack of money, markeloff on the other hand definitely should have been grinding AWP since the start
2023-11-07 11:54
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he's just stupid and crying because he's not best anymore in new game
2023-11-07 13:06
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#173
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania kinoN
G2Up!
2023-11-07 13:12
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REAL QUESTION IS, COULD S1MPLE "FAK" HIMSELF?
2023-11-07 13:22
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1 reply
He could surely fak his team over, that’s forsure!
2023-11-07 14:23
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#179
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Sweden multib
CS is so much more established today than it was then. s1mple will still be the goat of the game for many years to come. But sure in 5+ years he might become irrelevant.
2023-11-07 14:19
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Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8265U CPU @ 1.60GHz 1.80 GHz Installed RAM 8.00 GB (7.86 GB usable) System type 64-bit operating system Graphics: Intel (R) UHD Graphics 620 The game doesn't launch and crashes everytime. Tried running it as administrator and updated all drivers and windows 10. Disabled full screen optimization too but still doesn't work. what can i do now?? Too broke to upgrade laptop!!
2023-11-07 14:24
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3 replies
Get second job, sell narcotics, or sell bum to dirty old man
2023-11-07 14:33
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#205
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Czech Republic JakamanCZ
Intel (R) UHD Graphics 620 Answer: CS 1.6
2023-11-08 00:51
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Is it possible that you have some (now bad) launch option set in Steam from when it was still CSGO?
2023-11-08 02:26
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“The greatest player in CS:GO history, Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev” “ With the indisputable GOAT of CS:GO, s1mple” Lmao didn’t know personal opinions have place in HLTV’s articles. Till now the most I have seen was that s1mple is “widely regarded as greatest”, but to put full blown opinion like this hmmmm, not sure what to think about this one, since huge part of community don’t agree with such statement.
2023-11-07 14:40
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6 replies
Well it is according to HLTV. They had their article breaking down everything into point system and chose Simpie
2023-11-07 14:34
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1 reply
I have read NER0’s take, but if you remember he never stated that he is “THE GOAT”. He just said he is “widely regarded” I might be wrong (pls correct me if I am), but this is what I remember.
2023-11-07 14:37
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Zywoo was doing better than him towards the end of CSGO, but the game was out for a long time, not just the last 5 years Zywoo has been around.
2023-11-07 15:03
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Who is talking about zywoo? For me even players like device and cold are in front of tox1mple.
2023-11-07 15:22
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It was between device and simple. Simple slightly edged it out through their point system by individual mvp’s, longer duration with higher rating etc. Devices Major wins are important but those are mostly considered TEAM achievements. They still counted individually but were not a deciding factor. Now of course there’s room for other opinions but the point system they created was pretty well done. So until someone presents a better system Simple is winner. PLUS, device had way better teammates backing him up. Magisk, dupreeh and Glaive are STILL playing at the highest level! Ukraine war slowed Simple down, understandably The weird Boomich situation really screwed the team. With all that Simple still won. So I agree with them
2023-11-07 15:57
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It's 5x harder to dominate the game now than it was in colds day or even in 2019 when Astralis only real challenge was Liquid, a North American team...
2023-11-07 20:17
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Awesome article, stich. ^^
2023-11-07 15:53
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fml I feel like I just read a f*king book, I thought this was suppose to be analysis, reports and news, not a blog x-x
2023-11-07 19:14
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Trace was one of my favorite CS 1.6 players but if s1mple decides to quit this game forever he cannot dissapear. Dude is GOAT, so this whole thread is just one point of view, and there is many.
2023-11-07 20:50
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#204
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France Sinj_Gracieux
That was a nice article, good job
2023-11-08 00:49
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the game full trash that many quit, its not cs at all but a joke
2023-11-08 10:46
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#211
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Latvia Tedis95
S1mple is cs g0d and will be cs g0d. I believe in you Sasha
2023-11-08 13:52
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dumbet article i've read on HLTV, gz
2023-11-08 21:59
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#218
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World mTysk
I am still a little sad that wants didn't give GO a real chance
2023-11-11 20:18
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#222
Faceit premium user Faceit level 8  | 
Russia Woogly
The truth is s1mple wants to play with russian friends but the society forbid, thats why he waits untill ukraine dissapear as a country and then hell play
2023-11-14 11:10
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