Top 20 players of 2023: stavn (9)

Due to an excellent floor level and his plethora of awards, stavn claims his fourth appearance on the HLTV Top 20 Players of the Year list, powered by 1xBet.

Top 20 players of 2023: Introduction

Martin "⁠stavn⁠" Lund has been a pillar of consistency from the very start of his time as a tier one player, picking up a HLTV top 20 nod in his first full year among Counter-Strike's elite in 2020. In every year since he has found his way onto the list thanks to his admirably high floor level, ability to perform tournament to tournament whilst rarely having an off day, and timely peaks that were key in helping the Dane win a handful of significant LAN trophies with HEROIC.

Not only has stavn been one of the most consistent rifles in the elite echelons of Counter-Strike for the past few years, he has maintained his level throughout a number of changes within the team.

First, stavn endured a revolving door of personnel swaps throughout 2019 which saw him play with eight different teammates. Then, after the squad that rose to prominence in the online era fell off, stavn didn't miss a beat as the team revamped with Rasmus "⁠sjuush⁠" Beck and Ismail "⁠refrezh⁠" Ali. Finally, with the team struggling to find their peak level on LAN, stavn continued to star as the signing of Jakob "⁠jabbi⁠" Nygaard helped bring HEROIC trophies at the end of 2022 and into 2023. It is no surprise then that the young Dane once again finds himself counted among the very best.

For a more in-depth look at stavn's early career, check out his Top 20 articles from 2020 and 2021.

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2023 Tournament stats
TournamentEvent Team (place) Rating 2.0 (in team) ADR KPR DPR Impact KAST Award
IEM Katowice
(2nd)
1.06 (5th, -6%) 75.0 0.66 0.66 0.97 72.9%
EPL S17
(5-8th)
1.24 (1st, +12%) 84.1 0.78 0.61 1.24 76.2%
IEM Rio
(2nd)
1.18 (1st, +8%) 83.4 0.76 0.64 1.14 75.3% EVP
BLAST Paris Major
(3-4th)
1.19 (1st, +11%) 83.8 0.76 0.65 1.30 72.9% EVP
IEM Dallas
(3-4th)
1.24 (1st, +7%) 81.7 0.79 0.60 1.20 77.2% EVP
BLAST Spring Final
(1st)
1.17 (3rd, +4%) 81.0 0.72 0.64 1.22 74.1% EVP
IEM Cologne
(5-6th)
1.10 (2nd, +4%) 79.6 0.71 0.67 1.01 73.0%
Gamers8
(3-4th)
1.17 (2nd, +6%) 79.1 0.78 0.64 1.14 77.0%
ESL Pro League S18
(21-28th)
1.13 (1st, +9%) 84.0 0.74 0.70 1.26 67.6%
BetBoom Dacha
(7-8th)
0.80 (5th, -15%) 62.3 0.45 0.75 0.72 69.7%
5%+ above average
5%+ below average
Closer than 5% to average

2023 began as a year full of hope for stavn and the rest of HEROIC, with the rifler stating on reflection that "expectations were high." The premier Danish team had finished 2022 as the No. 1 team in the world, had taken second place at the IEM Rio Major, and ended their year with a victory at the BLAST Premier Fall Final on home soil. Whilst the addition of jabbi mid-way through the year had taken some time to settle, once it did HEROIC established themselves as the best team in the world.

After a successful if somewhat labored qualification run through the BLAST Spring Groups, to which stavn was a key contributor, HEROIC arrived in Poland for the first significant event of the year, the Super-elite IEM Katowice. As the top-ranked side in the world HEROIC were of course among the favorites to take the trophy.

The Danes cruised through their group with relative ease, dropping a single map along the way whilst most importantly confidently brushing aside Vitality in the group final. Their performance proved they were in dangerous form, and although stavn was a strong and consistent performer posting five maps with a 1.21 rating or better, he didn't have to do as much as he might have otherwise as the entire squad was shining, particularly jabbi.

The playoffs were a different story, as stavn had an underwhelming showing for a player of his caliber. He struggled to meet his usual level and posted three maps below a 1.00 rating, and considering two of the maps they lost to G2 in the 1-3 grand final loss were close, an in-form stavn might have turned the tides. It was nonetheless a successful showing for HEROIC , and stavn nabbed a VP nod for his group stage efforts.

stavn couldn't find his best form in the IEM Katowice playoffs

HEROIC then travelled to Malta for ESL Pro League and stavn proved why he is so highly rated within the scene, as he refused to post two sub-par events for his standards back to back. stavn single-handedly tore Movistar Riders to pieces with a 1.77 rating to open the group stage, dropping a mind-boggling 110 ADR across the series. He cooled off for the remaining group games, but still came up trumps when he was needed, particularly in a tight 16-14 win in the final map against MOUZ, where he was vital in keeping the explosive Dorian "⁠xertioN⁠" Berman quiet.

stavn couldn't carry his team any further than the quarter-finals as a prime Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev performance put HEROIC to bed, but it wasn't for lack of trying as he was the second-best player on the server. His team let him down somewhat in the series, but his 1.24 rating and 1.24 impact rating across the event put him up there among the best, and as such he grabbed another VP award.

stavn couldn't haul his team to success in Malta

Next up was the BLAST.tv Paris Major Europe RMR and HEROIC got the job done with absolutely no fuss, cruising through with straight victories to seal a Legends Spot at the Major. IEM Rio followed and this was a key event for the teams in attendance, as this was where statements would be made regarding form heading into the Paris Major itself.

A statement was indeed made by HEROIC as they stormed to second place behind Vitality, and stavn garnered his first EVP award of the season for his significant contributions. The rifler shined in victories over 9INE and The MongolZ, maintaining a steady level for the group decider with Ninjas in Pyjamas. In a brutally tough quarter-final matchup with hometown heroes FURIA stavn stood tall to help drag his team through a hard-fought series, posting the highest rating in his team and a 1.26 impact rating that emphasized his importance in finding round wins.

After breezing past an underwhelming Natus Vincere, HEROIC were bested by Vitality in close fashion in the grand final, falling short of the trophy once again. stavn led his squad in ADR on Vertigo only to be outdone by a stellar Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif performance, and he struggled along with the majority of his teammates on the final map, being hauled along by jabbi. Regardless stavn was in the MVP race until that final map, and secured yet another EVP instead.

IEM Rio was another case of so close, yet so far, for Heroic

The marquee event of 2023, BLAST.tv Paris Major, was perhaps where stavn put in his best tournament performance of the year. HEROIC cruised past FaZe and Apeks in best-of-ones with stavn as usual providing consistent output, but the young rifler stepped up big time against Liquid in series play. Heading into a decider with the teams seeming evenly matched, stavn went nuclear on Ancient by racking up 30 kills and 100 ADR to solo-carry HEROIC to the playoffs, posting a staggering 2.04 impact rating to boot.

In the playoffs stavn provided the firepower needed to get past FaZe in the quarter-finals, and with many of the favorites eliminated, it seemed HEROIC were destined for a grand final rematch with Vitality. Unfortunately HEROIC had a Mihai "⁠iM⁠" Ivan having the tournament of his life to contend with, and although stavn carried his team to a win on Ancient and provided the stiffest resistance on Inferno, the Danes ultimately succumbed to GamerLegion and exited the Major in 3-4th place.

A disappointing finish for HEROIC no doubt, particularly considering the fact they were in good form, many of the favorites were not, and they got a seemingly favorable semi-final matchup. stavn cannot be faulted, however, as his 1.30 impact rating across the tournament emphasized just how good he was and clinching rounds for HEROIC alongside his usual consistent raw output. Another EVP came stavn's way, and another deep run reinforced HEROIC's status as one of the most consistent elite squads in the game.

stavn should perhaps have secured another Major final appearance in Paris

stavn maintained his impressive output and impact at IEM Dallas to help guide HEROIC to 3-4th place once again, grabbing another EVP award whilst dominating MOUZ and styling on G2 alongside his teammates in the group stage. The playoff rematch with MOUZ went the other way, but stavn was still a solid performer and almost turned a narrow loss on the decider of Ancient into victory with his play.

HEROIC saved their best finish of the season for last, and it came at the BLAST Premier Spring Final. HEROIC were not to be denied as they marched imperiously to the trophy, with the ever-reliable stavn leading the scoreboards in every single series except the final. The dynamite Dane only had to settle for an EVP award because of a quiet grand final showing against their recent nemesis Vitality where jabbi stole the headlines, and even then it was an incredibly tight MVP race. Some would argue jabbi only got the chance to shine in said final because stavn had carried the team there.

By clinching a trophy HEROIC had turned what might have otherwise been a strong yet disappointing first half of the year into a definite success, with a plethora of top placings and one title added to their resumés. stavn was the consistent driving force behind HEROIC's excellent season, as evidenced by his litany of VP and EVP awards, and his raw damage output was something precious few riflers could match.

Another trophy in Copenhagen concluded Heroic's season

stavn is proud when he thinks back on the first half of HEROIC's year. "I feel like we played CS at a top level and were in fairness considered as perhaps the best team in the world at points," the Dane states. "In the end it’s the trophies you are hungry after and not the ranking placements, but still I feel grateful and proud of the level and results we got all in all."

After the summer off-season, something broke down in the HEROIC engine room. They breezed through the BLAST Premier Fall Groups with ease, but beyond that the Danish side only mustered 11 wins from the 23 LAN maps they played with stavn still amongst their number. Having come into BLAST Groups full of confidence and ambition, saying they wanted to end CS:GO as the number one team, their winter season was a wrench thrown into what always seemed such a cohesive and well-oiled machine.

stavn's level, however, barely dropped. There were no more EVPs to be had, but he still racked up VP awards as he attempted to be the grease that guaranteed HEROIC's grinding gears kept turning.

"In general I think it was very hard for the team mentally always being so close to lifting the trophies," stavn says when reflecting on HEROIC's struggles. "Several things had happened, and despite the good feeling about the high level CS we had played up until this point, the losses in the finals and semi-finals were definitely still always in the back of our head. We clearly didn't get the best start and then it contributed to maybe kind of a snowball effect causing a drop off in performance."

The most prestigious tournament of the season kicked off HEROIC's decline, IEM Cologne. In the group stage it seemed all was well, the team made the playoffs after coming out of their group in second place after a narrow loss to ENCE. A gut-wrenching defeat ended their playoff campaign early, however, as bitter regional rivals Astralis comfortably dispatched their countrymen in 2-0 fashion. A superlative overperformance by Christian "⁠Buzz⁠" Andersen certainly played its part but HEROIC were out of sorts across the board throughout the series, including stavn. It was not a disaster, but certainly a disappointment considering Astralis' state at the time.

Losing to Astralis at IEM Cologne was a disappointment for Heroic

Gamers8 returned two series wins against lesser opposition in Falcons and GamerLegion, with stavn's rifling prowess a powerful factor in both, but ENCE cast HEROIC aside 2-0 in the semi-final and the second map was a complete blowout. Again, it was not a terrible tournament showing overall, but considering HEROIC's ambitions and propensity for falling short in key moments, questions as to their potential to win more trophies were being asked.

ESL Pro League was the tournament where things truly fell apart. Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller gave an interview to HLTV pre-tournament speaking of the troubles within HEROIC and stating his belief they were not playing to their principles, and their performance at the tournament itself seemed a testament to this fact.

Read more
cadiaN: "We're not all playing to our philosophies and principles"

HEROIC crashed out of ESL Pro League with a single win to their name over lowly Rooster, registering three straight series defeats to BIG, MOUZ and Monte. Previously the Danes were a team that could only be beaten by the elite, a side that were nigh-impossible to upset, but in Malta they were upset three times in relatively comfortable fashion. stavn might have secured a final VP award of the season, but it was clear that all was not well within the HEROIC camp.

Then, it happened. The now-infamous 'stabbi' drama. jabbi and stavn allegedly gave Heroic an ultimatum, stating the team had to choose between them or cadiaN, only to renege on promises to sign new contracts to set their sights on joining arch-rivals Astralis. The 'stabbi' duo have since released a statement presenting their own version of events, denying such an ultimatum was made, but regardless of the exact truth of the matter, HEROIC fell apart. stavn was benched alongside jabbi, cadiaN decided his future lay elsewhere, and the roster that had been together for so long and achieved so much was in pieces.

Read more
stavn and jabbi share their side of Heroic-Astralis transfer drama in new statement

"Of course it leaves me with a sour taste," stavn admits as he reflects on his departure. "A huge part of my development as a player happened while being in Heroic. Not only did I develop during the years, we grew together and achieved many great things together. I would have loved to leave on a better note, but now I need to focus on the next chapter in my career."

stavn is focused on the next chapter of his career

stavn eventually landed his transfer to Astralis, alongside jabbi, and the pair made their debut for their new side at BetBoom Dacha. With little time to practice the event was nothing to write home about as the team exited in joint-last place. "The tournament definitely came too soon for us to be concerned about the end result," stavn states. "We barely had any practice and with media obligations leading up to the tournament we definitely didn't have the best preparation leading up to the tournament." And with that, stavn's year was over.

"I’m really proud to be here again amongst such great players," stavn says of his fourth appearance on the Top 20. "Much of it is the result of, all things considered, a great year in Heroic." Despite considering it a great year, the Dane does admit it still fell a little short of expectations. "I think, despite us all in all being one of the very best teams during the year and winning BLAST before the summer break, we did in truth expect more trophies."

stavn is now fully focused on succeeding in 2024 with his new team, Astralis. "I believe we can build something great here," the Dane states confidently. "We will need more practice and more officials to reach higher levels which we all feel like we definitely will achieve." Of course, the PGL Major on home soil is a particular focus of his. "As a Dane it’s the ultimate tournament. A major and on home soil. I feel hyped and will give it my all to be there."

Why was stavn the 9th best player of 2023?

Making his second consecutive appearance inside the top 10, stavn displayed an excellent floor level throughout 2023 from event to event, putting in just one poor performance all year long at the medium-sized BetBoom Dacha and a 1.10 rating or above at eight of the other nine appearances.

Thanks to this, he secured four Exceptionally Valuable Player awards, including one at the BLAST.tv Paris Major and three more at Big Events, at IEM Rio, IEM Dallas and a near-MVP at the BLAST Premier Spring Final. An impressive resumé already, this perhaps doesn't do his year justice considering he had three more tournaments close to the EVP level at IEM Katowice, ESL Pro League Season 17 and Gamers8.

The Dane particularly stood out as one of the best damage-dealers (81.1 ADR, #5) and put up well above-average ratings more frequently than most (56.5% maps above 1.15, #4), and performed well at the biggest tournaments with a 1.12 Elite rating.

Similarly to previous years his drop-off in playoffs was, however, significant when compared to the players around him, and although he did sport a decent 1.07 rating in Big matches overall, his play against top-ranked opposition (1.08 vs. top 10 teams) was among the lowest in the top 20. These factors prevented him from placing any higher.

Bold prediction by 1xBet

stavn joins cadiaN, Nemanja "⁠huNter-⁠" Kovač and Helvijs "⁠broky⁠" Saukants in naming Linus "⁠nilo⁠" Bergman as his bold prediction for 2024.

The 19-year-old Swede hit an average of 1.22 rating for 2023 and his Metizport lineup, built around a Young Ninjas core, are one to look out for next year.

"I've only heard good things about him," stavn states. "When you watch him play you're in no doubt he has what it takes to become one of the very best."


Stay tuned to our Top 20 Players of 2023 ranking and take a look at the introduction article to learn more about how the players were selected.

Bosnia and Herzegovina Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1664
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1044
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.64
Latvia Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
942
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1598
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Christian 'Buzz' Andersen
Christian 'Buzz' Andersen
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
461
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
Sweden Linus 'nilo' Bergman
Linus 'nilo' Bergman
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
534
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
Israel Dorian 'xertioN' Berman
Dorian 'xertioN' Berman
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
414
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1673
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
973
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Romania Mihai 'iM' Ivan
Mihai 'iM' Ivan
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1000
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1290
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Martin 'stavn' Lund
Martin 'stavn' Lund
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1311
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.24
Maps played:
1723
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.63
#1
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Turkey XANNYTARES
where xantares?
2024-01-07 20:00
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7 replies
You wrote that beforehand
2024-01-07 20:00
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#32
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Turkey XANNYTARES
don't underestimate turkish internet
2024-01-07 20:00
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1 reply
0/12 gang come
2024-01-07 20:11
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ef wasnt even in the prediction list
2024-01-07 20:11
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if you want old man Xantares you better include Donk above him also then
2024-01-07 20:16
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IDK, I guess in Turkey?
2024-01-07 20:28
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2024-01-11 02:45
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L
2024-01-07 20:00
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6 replies
#55
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Poland Onnuji
massive L
2024-01-07 20:04
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1 reply
+1
2024-01-07 20:06
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group stage merchant
2024-01-07 21:01
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2 replies
+1
2024-01-07 21:06
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#249
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Georgia Lebroski
You misspelled "fvcking rat and snake"
2024-01-09 13:03
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+1
2024-01-08 03:54
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GG
2024-01-07 20:00
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congratulations stavn!
2024-01-07 20:00
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1 reply
DESERVED
2024-01-09 01:18
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based
2024-01-07 20:00
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nice
2024-01-07 20:00
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L
2024-01-07 20:00
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#8
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland KUTER
xpp
2024-01-07 20:00
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nice
2024-01-07 20:00
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#10
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India Rau7n
Lollll
2024-01-07 20:00
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Expected
2024-01-07 20:00
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lol
2024-01-07 20:00
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#13
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United Kingdom jontyzera
WTF
2024-01-07 20:00
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i cannot agree
2024-01-07 20:00
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#15
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France Strayke
Undeserved
2024-01-07 20:00
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2 replies
#94
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Germany hltvfinest
top 9 for winning a bunch of group stage games and disappearing in playoffs
2024-01-07 20:17
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#130
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
910 | 
France pheno71
+1
2024-01-07 21:02
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im 2/20
2024-01-07 20:00
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stavn > frozen is bs
2024-01-07 20:00
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18 replies
frrrrrrrrrrr
2024-01-07 20:00
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2 replies
#57
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Poland Onnuji
frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
2024-01-07 20:04
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1 reply
frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
2024-01-07 20:08
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It's not a popularity contest
2024-01-07 20:06
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5 replies
#72
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Poland Onnuji
flag
2024-01-07 20:08
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its not a who is more danish contest
2024-01-07 20:08
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1 reply
#96
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Europe neonstrike
i mean hltv is danish owned so prob it is xd cant explain him being this high otherwise
2024-01-07 20:17
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flag
2024-01-07 20:11
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#234
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Norway Snaids
+1
2024-01-08 15:19
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#126
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United States xoblivion
Agreed
2024-01-07 20:56
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+1 it's only based off of team success, but stavn being quite an early stage stat padder while disappearing when his team needs him is a rough proposal for a top 10 player.
2024-01-07 22:38
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Why is everyone so mad about this Ofc stavn had a better YEAR than frozen Mouz wasnt even considered tier 1 in first half of 2023 This is why hltv clearly explained the recency bias but everyone here is blind and forgets, and everyone was sucking stavn hard before the stab and claiming "top3" Not judging his morality here but his performance through the whole year and yes he achieved more than frozen in more relevant tournaments even if he tends to choke in playoffs. This is the case for everyone in the top10, simple didnt play for 3 months but he's still way better through the whole year than most of players in the top. The only exception could be device that achieved less than frozen but he had better stats, they might be very close. And I'm not really a big fan of stavn, even more with the stabbi thing but he deserves the 9th more than frozen for 2023, and I'm 99% sure Frozen will deserve a top10 or top5 in 2024, judging the whole year. I'm not happy to see faze becoming stronger but be objective, this is more an individual upgrade for Frozen than a collective upgrade for faze
2024-01-07 23:06
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6 replies
+1
2024-01-08 09:26
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#229
Faceit level 8  | 
frozen | 
Slovakia Pjetrik
wdym mouz wasnt considered tier 1 for the half of 2023 ? they were top 10 pretty much 99,9% of the year. + they werent considered tier 1 to whom ? you ? why exactly ? that is a walking L take sorry not sorry
2024-01-08 11:24
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Wait, you thought Mouz was tier 1 at the beginning of the year when Dexter was the IGL LOLOLOL? Literally only YOU thought they were tier 1.
2024-01-09 15:29
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#254
Faceit level 8  | 
frozen | 
Slovakia Pjetrik
then explain the definition of tier 1, go on
2024-01-09 20:02
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1 reply
flair
2024-01-11 15:06
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#244
Faceit plus user Faceit level 4  | 
karrigan | 
Germany Pummel
tl;dr ... frozen > st0vn
2024-01-08 17:23
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Mental
2024-01-07 20:00
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xd
2024-01-07 20:00
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#21
Faceit level 4  | 
dav1deuS | 
Bolivia RomerMcr14
Electronic?...
2024-01-07 20:00
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#23
Buzz | 
Denmark ma1zzz
Stavn over dev1ce WTF
2024-01-07 20:00
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A bit too high maybe...
2024-01-07 20:00
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#25
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
sjokz | 
Poland Tony12PL
Stavn 9 yhy xD
2024-01-07 20:00
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frozen 12
2024-01-07 20:00
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5 replies
#59
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Poland Onnuji
magisk 17
2024-01-07 20:05
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#60
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Poland Onnuji
blameF 16
2024-01-07 20:05
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#62
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Poland Onnuji
twistzzz 20
2024-01-07 20:05
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#102
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark slacking
S0mple 8
2024-01-07 20:24
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#235
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Norway Snaids
Sjuush 1
2024-01-08 15:20
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Undeserved
2024-01-07 20:00
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lessgo 3/12, we coming back mens))
2024-01-07 20:00
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wtf
2024-01-07 20:00
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expected
2024-01-07 20:00
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#33
Faceit level 10  | 
Israel avivpro13
xdd
2024-01-07 20:01
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stavn > frozen lol
2024-01-07 20:01
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#37
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Zimbabwe KennyKEX
nilo goated
2024-01-07 20:01
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9 replies
#76
Faceit level 9  | 
gla1ve | 
Sweden official_EGB
Insane how nip didnt promote him to the main team
2024-01-07 20:09
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5 replies
#82
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Zimbabwe KennyKEX
I can tell u dont know anything lmao.. He is still in school so he wants to finish it before he starts to play fulltime
2024-01-07 20:11
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1 reply
#178
Faceit level 9  | 
gla1ve | 
Sweden official_EGB
”I can tell u don’t know anything lmao” Please kiddo, just cause I don’t have 10 hours every day to scroll twitter and HLTV while watching my gymnasium grades deteriorate like you. Thanks for letting me know nonetheless 👍🏻
2024-01-07 22:31
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#156
Faceit level 9  | 
Jesus | 
Kazakhstan yTuHbIe_ucTopuu
he probably refused himself
2024-01-07 21:28
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2 replies
#179
Faceit level 9  | 
gla1ve | 
Sweden official_EGB
Wouldn’t surprise me at all
2024-01-07 22:31
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1 reply
#228
Faceit level 9  | 
Jesus | 
Kazakhstan yTuHbIe_ucTopuu
haha bro nilo is just like you. Im that guy that checks HLTV and Twitter 30 minutes to hour a day and the reason why he refuses to play professionally full time is because he doesnt want his gym grades to deteriotate and preferred to complete his education as rest of metizport squad before jumping into full time T1.
2024-01-08 10:38
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#133
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Sweden lefflan
Imagine the pressure on nilo, so far 4 top 20 players have put him up on the radar. He was awarded "most promising player" at the Swedish Cup last year but didn't partake in the ceremony for some reason. 1 hour ago he was awarded lurker of the year at esportstudion and was the only player to not show for an interview lol.
2024-01-07 21:05
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2 replies
#167
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North America hi_mens))
I mean, sounds like he's just busy finishing up his primary schooling and all that shit. Who cares about a couple of no-name awards
2024-01-07 21:56
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1 reply
#216
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Sweden lefflan
I have no idea tbh, I was thinking he might be shy, and it's not really no-name awards when the best players of Sweden are there for interviews etc. No-name to people outside of Sweden, Yes.
2024-01-08 05:45
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AHAHAHA RIP MY LIST
2024-01-07 20:01
0
Frozen clears him
2024-01-07 20:01
0
S1MPLE HIGHER LOLLLLLLLLLLL
2024-01-07 20:02
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#41
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Poland emoi1212
L
2024-01-07 20:02
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#43
Faceit level 10  | 
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Europe HoxjE
Expected
2024-01-07 20:02
0
ok
2024-01-07 20:02
0
Underserved
2024-01-07 20:02
0
How is he supposedly better than frozen xdd
2024-01-07 20:03
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2 replies
#68
Faceit level 10  | 
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Europe HoxjE
Not better but he had a better year
2024-01-07 20:07
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1 reply
No he didn't. Worse stats and similar achievements. The only justification hltv gave for him being higher is frozen saves more.
2024-01-09 02:48
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#48
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Brazil darkfroid
Frozen >>> stavn
2024-01-07 20:03
0
undeserved
2024-01-07 20:03
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#51
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Austria Kizucatto
what a joke
2024-01-07 20:03
0
L
2024-01-07 20:04
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#53
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South Africa Criticle
His lowest rating on Heroic was in Katowice, wonder what he was getting up to?
2024-01-07 20:04
0
1 reply
Starting the life of being a rat
2024-01-07 21:10
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#54
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Austria RhymeWoo
undeserved
2024-01-07 20:04
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#56
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Belgium w4lt3r
Only one thus far i don't agree with
2024-01-07 20:04
0
Hope its the last time we see him on the list.
2024-01-07 20:05
0
Hltv ratings got paid by astralis?
2024-01-07 20:05
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#63
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Sweden Vrede
stabn
2024-01-07 20:05
0
what a joke
2024-01-07 20:06
0
another rat, now is stabn
2024-01-07 20:07
0
4 Astralis players in the top 20, not too shabby. Now we only need Staehr to step up in 2024 to match 2018 Astralis.
2024-01-07 20:07
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18 replies
Nice daydreams you having there. Astralis has major roleclashes which they most solve first
2024-01-07 20:08
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4 replies
Stay in your lane, Finn. Speak to me when havu wins a major.
2024-01-07 20:11
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3 replies
I will. Havu winning a major will not help with Astralis roleclashes though
2024-01-07 20:24
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2 replies
XDDDDDDDD
2024-01-07 21:16
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Served
2024-01-07 22:29
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Xyp was never a real top 20 player
2024-01-07 20:09
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7 replies
Magisk wasn’t even good enough for North
2024-01-07 20:14
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5 replies
Lol, you must be joking right? Magisk was rated 14 on hltv top20 in 2016 before joining Astralis. He was number 7 in 2018, number 5 in 2019 and number 11 in 2020. If you have to make a top 10 over the biggest players of the last century, Magisk is a contender to that list.
2024-01-07 21:10
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4 replies
2024-01-07 21:24
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dude, i agree he was top 20 some years, but he is not top10 all time
2024-01-08 13:11
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2 replies
No, not his top level. Many players have had higher ceilings than him, but he’s been winning and winning while being damn consistent on both vitality and astralis. Imo he is a at least on the same page as (not meaning that his top level is/was higher) players like kennys, fallen and olofmeister and coldzera. To me they are in the second tier of star players over the last decade. Device, Niko, Zywoo and simple are of course higher, but Magisk, to me, is right behind these guys.
2024-01-08 16:48
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1 reply
He was never THE carry tho, thats the problem
2024-01-08 18:52
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+1
2024-01-07 21:16
0
No, it's two Heroic players and two Astralis players. Stavn and Jabbi going to Astralis before the list was released is irrelevant.
2024-01-07 20:33
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4 replies
88k+ comments and you chose to bequeath me your worst one yet. I'm truly honoured.
2024-01-07 20:37
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2 replies
Thanks?
2024-01-07 20:38
0
1 reply
No, thank you.
2024-01-07 20:39
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#168
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North America hi_mens))
+1 Not even comparable to the previous Astralis lineup
2024-01-07 21:59
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#74
b0RUP | 
New Zealand stam_
W
2024-01-07 20:08
0
Finally a player in a rank that makes sense
2024-01-07 20:09
0
5 replies
no
2024-01-07 20:15
0
4 replies
No? Would you have him higher or lower? Ignoring Frozen bs of course.
2024-01-07 20:16
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3 replies
lower but the list is weird some players shouldnt even be on the list
2024-01-07 22:30
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2 replies
I wouldn't mind him lower. I was just afraid he would get the dane-buff and find himself at position six or something
2024-01-08 01:41
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1 reply
he would be lower if they didnt put in Lscerato who do not know how he even is on the list
2024-01-08 09:11
0
expected
2024-01-07 20:09
0
nilo so many predictions
2024-01-07 20:10
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#87
Faceit level 10  | 
s1mple | 
Finland Lapatzu
He is good but 9th?
2024-01-07 20:12
0
LMAO Stabvn over Frozen. Worst HLTV list to date
2024-01-07 20:13
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It seems so obvious how much help from HTLV he had to get to argument his 9th position: "[stavn] had three more tournaments close to the EVP level" - so we are now also counting performances close to an EVP level as an accolade? The stats say it all - 11th kpr, 13th kast, 12th CT rating, 19th K-D difference, 14th impact, 19th T rating, 18th vs top 10, 12th in multi kills. And then has only 2 stats on 4th and 5th. I don't see that 9th position there in that. How is he higher than frozen by 3 positions even? Really, open up frozen's 12th position article, compare his achievements and stats with stavn's here. Not mentioning that after Pro League S18 stavn missed out on almost all CS 2 tournaments. I even somewhere heard frozen had a low kpr..? Ok, compare that to stavn's, it is basically the same. This is going to get even better with probably s1mple coming out next who won nothing and missed out on 1/3 of the year.
2024-01-07 20:17
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5 replies
#106
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Europe Ex0dus_
Exactly my thinking, suddenly they include "close to the EVP" lmaoo.
2024-01-07 20:25
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frozen > stavn any day of the 2023 year
2024-01-07 21:37
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#169
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North America hi_mens))
Look at where Frozen's EVPs are from and where Stavns are from and the difference should be very clear.
2024-01-07 22:00
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2 replies
So that makes the difference between 9th and 12th? 3 spot difference? The value of EVP? So frozen's 1.19 rating vs stavn's 1.15 is nothing? I think that is a more weighted difference than a bit more valuable EVP.
2024-01-07 23:16
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#196
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North America hi_mens))
Well it's part of it, I'm just saying that HLTV tend to rate S tier tourneys and majors very highly in regards to individual level. I don't agree with Frozen's placement either, I'm just saying that whoever decides these lists value Kato/Cologne, majors, etc, extremely high. Every year there's someone higher than people expect due to their performance at these tourneys.
2024-01-08 00:13
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predicted
2024-01-07 20:18
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#99
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Romania g4briela
what.
2024-01-07 20:20
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group stage hero
2024-01-07 20:22
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I had Device 11th, stavn 10th and Sunpayus 9th. :( Congratulations to stavn, he had an incredible year.
2024-01-07 20:22
0
3 replies
+1
2024-01-07 20:25
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#119
Faceit level 10  | 
frozen | 
Slovakia RetardedCat
U had devve 12th stavn 11th broky 10th then sunpapi simple shiro frozen...... I bet I will have the order correct but I will miss everyone by a one place because of frozen's robbery xD stavn had a good year but Im biased towards frozen
2024-01-07 20:46
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1 reply
I got Device 11th but Broky 12th. ^^ Device is my only correct pick, funnily enough. I know Frozen is wrong, so I can only hope the rest of the list is good. :D
2024-01-07 20:50
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#103
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland miedzianek
hltv worry that stavn will stab them if not high in ranking?
2024-01-07 20:24
0
#110
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
YEKINDAR | 
Bulgaria AlexDR19
backstabn
2024-01-07 20:36
0
1.07 in big games 1.08 vs top ten "admirably high floor level" Bro just farmed group stages and t2 teams into top 9
2024-01-07 20:40
0
5 replies
This is such a damn stupid take, that I read all over hltv on so many players. That they farm at group stages? Lots of great t1 teams are struggling at group stages and 2023 was a year full of surprising group stage exits for t1 teams. It is a damn myth that inflating stats by just farming in group stages is a possibility. All teams play as well as they can in group stages, and good teams are losing as well. Getting good stats in group stages is as valuable as it can be. If we are talking CCT vs. majors or cologne or something, then it's something different. But farming at group stages of the most important events? Get outta here
2024-01-07 21:13
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2 replies
#148
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Fiji uho
Flag
2024-01-07 21:19
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"his play against top-ranked opposition (1.08 vs. top 10 teams) was among the lowest in the top 20." My point is that he doesn't deserve the top 9 spot. Not that he is a bad player
2024-01-07 21:34
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Same with device. Last time he finished 11th was in 2021. That year he won 1 tournament, had three 2nd places, 1MVP & 4EVPs. This year Astralis finished 3-4th a couple of times and dude’s placed the same with 3EVPs. (His stats on LAN were similar in both years.) That alone should put him below both frozen and stavn…
2024-01-07 21:35
0
true
2024-01-09 14:15
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#116
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United States vivix
stavn (group stage monster) = disappear in playoffs
2024-01-07 20:40
0
This is bs
2024-01-07 20:44
0
Danish dominance
2024-01-07 20:44
0
2 replies
Danish website ranking danish players good. Shocking.
2024-01-08 00:34
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1 reply
And Danish dynamite
2024-01-15 02:15
0
0/12 rip
2024-01-07 20:46
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#122
Faceit level 10  | 
Europe fiatPEEK
Ok, the next one will be s1mple hltv confirmed
2024-01-07 20:48
0
wtf
2024-01-07 20:50
0
Deserved, I'm still on 0 good guesses though :(
2024-01-07 20:53
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#127
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Sweden lefflan
Wrong post
2024-01-07 21:00
0
Frozen robbed. This guy has roughly the same stats, with frozen being mildly better overall. Okay, I get it, Heroic won more. But take a look at their stats against top 10 and top 5, and this backstabbing little rat is blown out of the water. Stabn is a textbook group stage merchant, while frozen delivers his signature very high standard no matter who he plays against. Hltv is biased towards Astralis and Danes.
2024-01-07 21:04
0
dupreeh 2.0
2024-01-07 21:05
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#134
Faceit level 10  | 
ZywOo | 
United States weaboo
Someone sign nilo already
2024-01-07 21:05
0
in which universe is stavn better than forsen?
2024-01-07 21:07
0
1 reply
Danish
2024-01-07 21:21
0
I feel like frozen should’ve swapped places with stavn. At least keep them 1 place apart with device behind. HLTV should’ve really payed attention to CS2 transition and performance this year. Stavn had 2 games with -35 k/d ratio & 0.80 rating, while frozen played 5! CS2 events finishing in 2nd two times and one time 3rd with +26 k/d ratio & 1.10 rating. CS2 is a huge factor! Not to mention countless “GOATs” silently quitting the game, hoping for the miracle and patches, while hardworking players like frozen practiced and adapted to the new game.
2024-01-07 21:10
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#140
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Argentina cheapdeed
brazilian dupreeh
2024-01-07 21:10
0
HLTV being ignorant again, here we go. This guy ain't even on JKS's level let alone being top 9 this year. Out of the groups stage and he becomes hot trash instantly
2024-01-07 21:12
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#142
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United States DingusCS
no refunds
2024-01-07 21:12
0
frozen 12
2024-01-07 21:13
0
Biggest joke i've ever seen
2024-01-07 21:17
0
HLTV drunk again
2024-01-07 21:20
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#151
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Fiji uho
It's so weird to agree with hltv comments, but I do.
2024-01-07 21:21
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Frozen's stats clear Stavn. Frozen has the same number of EVPs (4) as Stavn, except that 1 of Stavn's is from a closed-circuit BLAST Spring Finals. What a f***** joke.
2024-01-07 21:22
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1 reply
he danish
2024-01-07 21:38
0
imoi that guy not even supposed to be in top 20
2024-01-07 21:26
0
This year: Worst major Worst ranking
2024-01-07 21:27
0
1 reply
u mean 2023?
2024-01-07 23:54
0
stavn has officially overcame huNter- as the current most overrated tier 1 player.
2024-01-07 21:49
0
L
2024-01-07 21:52
0
stabn
2024-01-07 21:55
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#170
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Armon
For those that are curious, this means Denmark historically have more players than Sweden in top 20 (Denmark 46, Sweden 45).
2024-01-07 22:02
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1 reply
but sweden will always be the cs country
2024-01-07 22:44
0
I had him at #9 Feelssogoodman
2024-01-07 22:04
0
Dude is worse than some outside of top 10.
2024-01-07 22:04
0
8 remaining: 1. ZywOo 2. NiKo 3. S1mple 4. M0nesy 5. Ropz 6. Spinx 7. SunPayus 8. Grim/Headtrick? I must be wrong, but I can't think of who else would be up there.
2024-01-07 22:16
0
all cus cadians god IGL skills
2024-01-07 22:46
0
L
2024-01-07 23:23
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#188
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
this guy betrayed his friends his team, like a scheming weasel, committed mutiny then proceeds to set the majestic ship on fire and leave lol, what a proper f'ing tool That will never be forgotten
2024-01-07 23:27
0
Who is next?
2024-01-07 23:32
0
So, I guess: 8th - SunPayus 7th - sh1ro 6th - S1mple 5th - m0NESY 4th - Spinx 3rd - ropz 2nd - NiKo 1st - ZywOo
2024-01-07 23:40
0
4 replies
0th - donk
2024-01-08 00:17
0
m0nesy could be 3 or 4
2024-01-08 05:11
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2 replies
Well, it's a possibility. However, I don't see him getting ahead of Spinx, since their stats are very similar, and Spinx got 5 trophies vs 2, plus more EVP's (I suppose). For Ropz, there's a chance that he's placed 5th, behind m0NESY and Spinx, but I honestly think that the fact he was the number 1 player on the 2nd best team of the year, plus 3 MVP's, plus his teammates not being ranked as highly will give him an edge over both of them. Ropz's raw stats are slightly worse than m0NESY's and Spinx's, but since NiKo will be top 2, and huNter was top 13; ZywOo will be top 1 and Magisk was named top 17; whilst Twistzz and Broky were respectively top 20 and 10, this might boost Ropz ahead of them both, not having teammates ranked as high, the 3 MVP's, and being the number 1 player in the 2nd best team of the year. Plus more EVP's.
2024-01-08 05:41
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1 reply
If you compare m0nesy with Spinx at Big Events, though, against all teams, top 20, top 10 and top 5 teams, m0nesy has advantage in both 2.0 rating, impact and k/d ratio & difference. He's very close to NiKo in that regard. If it wasn't for that Cologne MVP I think m0nesy could even had a chance to go as far as #2. If you compare ropz and Spinx in a similar fashion you'd see that Spinx has a slight edge over ropz, but the latter has 3 MVPs which is huge. Eventually, it's a question of what will the editors choose - m0nesy's terrific stats or ropz's 3 MVPs.
2024-01-08 15:27
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Stavn stats on LAN against top 10 teams: 1.09 rating 2.0 1.05 k/d ratio +69 k/d difference 1.04 impact 77 maps played #9 in HLTV top 20 Frozen stats on LAN against top 10 teams: 1.16 rating 2.0 1.21 k/d ratio +228 k/d difference 1.07 impact 76 maps played #12 in HLTV top 20 It’s funny how HLTV editors are totally not cherry picking their stats and their Top 20 is totally objective and definitely not biased, especially towards the Danish players. “Oh, gee, this year team achievements matter, oh gee, next year not so much, except these few guys”. Also, highlighting stats like UTILITY DAMAGE for cadiaN is utter cringe and a joke. It’s like picking the best player for the Ballon d’Or by the amount of fouls or yellow cards.
2024-01-07 23:44
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3 replies
+1
2024-01-07 23:53
0
My thoughts exactly
2024-01-08 10:18
0
+1
2024-01-08 13:07
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I think it's time for an analysts' top 20 of the year, because this year's HLTV's top 20 shows us how flawed thier lists are. I mean we had more ridiculous top 20 in the past, but I thought we are going to get more and more sensible top 20 lists.
2024-01-08 00:05
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#199
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Romania FAD [/]
Snake
2024-01-08 00:36
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So many Danes this year
2024-01-08 01:01
0
Wtf?.
2024-01-08 01:12
0
congratz
2024-01-08 01:18
0
Even 2020 list was better
2024-01-08 01:33
0
Wayy too high tbh
2024-01-08 01:42
0
is this a joke?
2024-01-08 04:21
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#209
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France Diodele
young danish rat #1
2024-01-08 05:02
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#210
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ZywOo | 
Japan s0APKing
without cadian = bot
2024-01-08 05:07
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#211
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Vietnam kyathesy
no way s0mple is in top 10
2024-01-08 05:08
0
1 reply
The GOAT s1mple is going to be Top 6. Watch
2024-01-08 06:09
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frozen vs top20 (rating 1.19 ) (impact 1.11) vs top10 (rating 1.17) (impact 1.09) vs top 5 (rating 1.15) (impact 1.07) stavn vs top20 (rating 1.12) (impact 1.09) vs top10(rating 1.09) (impact 1.04) vs top 5 (rating 1.08) (impact 1.04) HLTV:frozen low ranking is due to LOW IMPACT! why stavn’s IMPACT lower than Frozen.but the ranking higher than Frozen?
2024-01-08 05:29
0
WTF..
2024-01-08 05:41
0
I expected simple here.
2024-01-08 06:14
0
9th?? For being consistent? Others had better ratings and better eye tests than stavn that are bellow him from event to event and more impact. 9th is way to high for him this year. He didn't live up to what was needed from him this year.
2024-01-08 06:26
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#221
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Philippines sijibats
Let's go stabn
2024-01-08 08:36
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#225
Faceit level 7  | 
Czech Republic thezipp3r
backsta(b)vn
2024-01-08 09:33
0
Why stavn over Frozen? Robbed?
2024-01-08 09:59
0
#230
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
Sweden DiTzZ
That's the fourth player on the list where my prediction has been one spot off, lol
2024-01-08 11:57
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#231
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Germany phillo283
So lets put together. Stavn had 3 good month, 5 okay month and 4 AFK month and He still us top 9 when frozen is outside top 10, who had impact for mouz in every game for more then 4 years and who reached Grand Final with faze after 5 days in there. Okay, seems fair.
2024-01-08 12:32
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#236
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Norway Snaids
Can't wait to see which liquid player will be at this spot next year
2024-01-08 15:26
0
to everyone crying that frozen deserved higher than stavn, stavn got EVPs in objectively higher-valued tournaments such as katowice, major, rio, etc. while half of frozen's evps are from the beta phase of cs2. not to mention that stavn had a better impact across the entire year despite being ultra-shit in astralis atm, unlike frozen who baits even more than blameF
2024-01-08 15:27
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#239
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Poland B0rdo
frozen > stavn
2024-01-08 16:03
0
Imagine frozen #12 and stabn #9…… oh wait I just saw name of the site DANISHTV.ORG
2024-01-08 16:36
0
4 astralis players in top20 while being tier 3 team
2024-01-08 16:42
0
1 reply
Yeah HLTV biased
2024-01-09 06:35
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#243
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Norway Gjellan
Deserved
2024-01-08 17:04
0
Stabbi is overrated as fuck, but what we can expect from danish site putting danish players 10 spots higher than they deserves
2024-01-09 14:14
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#253
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine fallenaxe
stabbi
2024-01-09 20:00
0
STABBI #19 not #9
2024-01-10 08:58
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#256
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Europe yommamas
Thank you Danish HLTV for cramming as many Danish players as you can in the top 20. It's really subtle and not obvious at all number 1 snake though would be a different discussion though
2024-01-10 14:17
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