Stat check: Liquid tighten the pursestrings for their fourth rebuild in three years

After Liquid's cadiaN-led superteam failed, they made yet another double swap and landed on Twistzz becoming the in-game leader.

Since 2022, when Liquid began the year with a triple transfer, they have had ten players and three coaches sport their jersey in official matches.

The arrival of Justin "⁠jks⁠" Savage, Roland "⁠ultimate⁠" Tomkowiak, and Torbjørn "⁠mithR⁠" Nyborg brings that total to twelve players and four coaches in just two-and-a-half years. Flux has become the norm, as project after project collapses every six months.

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Liquid bench cadiaN: "Our time together didn't work out as we hoped"

There have been good spells in that timespan. Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis's arrival saw Liquid climb to third place in the world and reach two Big Event grand finals at the end of 2022.

But six months later, after a bad Major, that lineup — the organization's last somewhat stable effort — collapsed as two franchise players synonymous with the Liquid brand, Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski and Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella, left the team.

Since then, Liquid have tried multiple routes and have become one of many international sides: Moneyball low-spending on Robert "⁠Patsi⁠" Isyanov and Aleks "⁠Rainwaker⁠" Petrov, a promising rookie in Felipe "⁠skullz⁠" Medeiros, and big name known quantities like Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller and Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken.

Only Twistzz's signing, a player who had already succeeded in Liquid before, can be termed a success. One hit, four misses; hardly a record to be proud of.

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YEKINDAR explains why cadiaN's leadership didn't work and addresses form criticism

It makes sense that Liquid have handed full control to Twistzz in their latest rebuild. The Canadian superstar, North America's greatest-ever player for many, will take on in-game leadership as he seeks to wrestle the organization up the standings.

But after expensive misses in the transfer market on cadiaN and skullz, he will have to do so with a roster built with a min-max mindset.

jks, a free agent, has replaced skullz, and ultimate, a Polish 20-year-old who is yet to play a top 30 team in 2024, has come in to be the new sniper.

Role-wise, it's a perfect fit to have jks replace skullz as a passive lurker-anchor.

jks will now share that responsibility of lurking on T and anchoring on CT with Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic, leaving Twistzz, YEKINDAR, and ultimate as the side's early-round playmakers on both sides of the map.

When cadiaN was benched, one option was to sign a new rifling in-game leader , putting NAF into skullz's role as the primary lurker and returning Twistzz to his FaZe roles as the flexible half-lurker on T.

You can see the structure had a player like Rasmus "⁠HooXi⁠" Nielsen arrived, with Twistzz and NAF as the passive duo and YEKINDAR freed to create space on his own terms with HooXi as the sacrificial bomb-site entry.

But the one benefit of the last roster has been the form of Twistzz in his new in-game leader style roaming T side roles: Ones he was always keen to try out.

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Exclusive: Twistzz on joining Liquid, teammates, role he "always wanted" (Part 2)

"When you have an AWPer IGL, it opens up a unique rifler role that usually would be the in-game leader," Twistzz explained in January.

"For me, it's interesting that it's the role that I've always wanted, to be in this true flex position where I can use my actual best qualities, which I feel is being complimentary between sites."

In this role, he has a 1.18 rating on LAN in 2024 (1.09 on T, 1.26 on CT) and has complete freedom — freedom he did not want to give up by changing into a more natural IGL like HooXi.

That left Liquid needing an anchor, which explains why they chose to replace skullz one-for-one, first by chasing Kaike "⁠KSCERATO⁠" Cerato again before opting for jks instead.

jks has not played an official since October 2023

jks' 2023 stats maps onto skullz's 2024 remarkably well, with similarly low overall output in terms of kills and damage but excellent survival.

Stats do not always show the nuances of the anchor and support role, and jks' experience will be key as he actively prowls on T side and puts in work in his specialist CT spots like Pit on Inferno or A on Mirage.

But a player as passive as jks means that Liquid will maintain the role composition and aggression balance that caught them off guard so often in the roster under cadiaN.

YEKINDAR remains the only natural aggressive rifler, with three passive riflers in Twistzz, NAF, and jks all preferring to be alive in the late round. ultimate, online and against weaker opposition, was more aggressive than cadiaN, but this will not change anything on T-side executes.

YEKINDAR's form has been under huge scrutiny ever since he first dipped into in-game leadership himself in 2023, going from the eighth-best player of 2021 and 15th in 2022 to a 1.05 LAN rating and 0.93 K/D in 2024.

In 2024 he was too often a bomb-site entry going at a completely different pace to his team. jks' arrival will not change that, either: this is something the team must solve together.

There is also a reason that most teams opt for one aggressive lurker, and one more passive one: David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský and Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool, Ludvig "⁠Brollan⁠" Brolin and Jimi "⁠Jimpphat⁠" Salo, Jakob "⁠jabbi⁠" Nygaarda and Alexander "⁠br0⁠" Bro being three examples.

jks and NAF, meanwhile, are almost exact replicas — something that was a problem when they played together in Renegades in 2017 under Aleksandar "⁠kassad⁠" Trifunović.

jks and NAF endured role clashes on Renegades in 2017

"After a month and a half [of NAF being on Renegades], jks came to me and told me, 'I feel lost, I don't know what I'm doing on the maps. I want to go home,'" kassad recalled on Hot Take Point Made.

"Liquid getting jks means two things: Either he forgot [about Renegades], or he offered to play more aggressive roles which is [...] not going to be a thing. It's not in jks' game — he's played the same way for 15 years.

"He's crazy passive and you can't have two players like that. The game is more dynamic."

jks and NAF are both good players, reliable anchors who overperform in their positions. But it is not certain they can co-exist without a change to one of their games, six years on from last playing with each other.

The rifling core is full of experience. All four have been Top 20 Players of the Year, but that is no guarantee of success in a new game — one that jks has played just seven times in officials.

We have also barely mentioned the fifth player, a completely unknown quantity in the form of ultimate.

Only 17 of ultimate's 71 maps came against top 50 opposition

A prodigy who impressed Jarosław "⁠pashaBiceps⁠" Jarząbkowski at PGC when he was just 17, ultimate made a leap in form on CS2, going from a 1.03 rating in CS:GO to a 1.16 in the new game.

"In 2021, during the camp, he was known as a modest, polite, and quiet boy," pashaBiceps commented. "He stood out as a boy with a passion for CS and a clear vision of what he wants to do in life."

While jks is a straight swap for skullz, the same cannot be said for ultimate and cadiaN.

"His greatest strength is getting opening kills in the early stages of the round," his former AGO and Illuminar skipper, Damian "⁠Furlan⁠" Kislowski, told HLTV. "In AGO, he was more withdrawn and afraid to take the initiative. Currently, in CS2, I think he is a more complete player who is not afraid to take the game into his own hands."

He continued, "I would compare his style to ZywOo because he is a person who likes to initiate the round and can win it by himself. He feels equally comfortable with a rifle as with an AWP." High praise, indeed.

The stats back this up, with 0.07 openers per round with sniper rifles and 0.13 overall in 2024. ultimate is far more of a raw fragger (0.75 KPR, 19% multi-kills) than the Dane.

These numbers, of course, came against very weak opposition. ultimate's signing, in that sense, is one that hopes to match Ninjas in Pyjamas' pick of Artem "⁠r1nkle⁠" Moroz, an aggressive tier two sniper with great raw figures.

But not everyone can jump to tier one like r1nkle has. It is far more common for AWPers to shrink, to not go for the picks that worked in tier two, and struggle to match their old output against far more disciplined players.

That risk is always present in Moneyball signings, whatever the role. It was there for Liquid when they signed Rainwaker and had to bench him after just a few months.

"His biggest weakness was probably not communicating in tough situations," Tal "⁠meztal⁠" Hahiashvili told us after praising his former teammate's aggression and versatility on the rifle. "But apparently, there are a lot of tier one players who struggle with that, and their teammates are comming instead of them in those situations."

With limited funds and an absence of other AWPers — alternative players include the likes of Volodymyr "⁠Woro2k⁠" Veletniuk, Iulian "⁠regali⁠" Harjău, Olek "⁠hades⁠" Miskiewicz, and Emil "⁠sL1m3⁠" Stolz —, you can see why Liquid took the gamble.

It's a signing that shows a desire to find an AWPer who is more involved in openers, happier to be part of the trading pack rather than a pure utility man like cadiaN, and at a low cost. Signing Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev was never going to happen.

Liquid's new composition is, therefore, the same as the roster with skullz: Four experienced professionals alongside one rookie who will need to be taken under someone's wing. Data is only one part of the puzzle.

mithR has a full in-tray on day one as Liquid's new coach

Liquid's new coach, mithR, has the tough brief of guiding Twistzz through a new journey as an in-game leader, helping NAF or jks — or both — develop more aggression, and of molding ultimate into a tier one player.

All in all, it is a tough task for a coach who is well-respected but does not have too many results to boast in stints at North, MOUZ, and Apeks.

Liquid tried the superteam, where the personalities and in-game styles of YEKINDAR, Twistzz, Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado, and cadiaN clashed to create a roster that could not even qualify for the Major.

The new roster is not as exciting on paper, but has a trimmed leadership group of Twistzz and YEKINDAR (who were already doing a lot of the strategy according to Duncan "⁠Thorin⁠" Shields) and lower pressure.

Even the most positive fan, though, will have winced slightly upon hearing that Twistzz, still at the peak of his powers, has taken up the captaincy.

Twistzz will have even more responsibility in the second half of 2024

The Canadian is the new team's most recognizable face and best player, and now he must also be their leader. It will be his job to deliver feedback well, sacrifice individual hours for team prep, pick up players after losses, take on extra media duty, and perform plenty of other unenviable tasks traditional in-game leaders are used to.

You only need to compare him to Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač, who won IEM Dallas as an in-game leader but did not want to become one full-time after HooXi's departure in the understanding that he had more to give.

In some ways, Liquid played this off-season safe with a free jks and a cheap ultimate, but by making Twistzz the team's captain, they are risking more than money; they are risking the form of the one bright spark of the team's 2024 thus far.

Poland Roland 'ultimate' Tomkowiak
Roland 'ultimate' Tomkowiak
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
243
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.65
Poland Damian 'Furlan' Kislowski
Damian 'Furlan' Kislowski
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
2342
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.69
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1555
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
Australia Justin 'jks' Savage
Justin 'jks' Savage
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1359
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1867
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.62
Ukraine Artem 'r1nkle' Moroz
Artem 'r1nkle' Moroz
Age:
19
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
524
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Alexander 'br0' Bro
Alexander 'br0' Bro
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
524
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Brazil Kaike 'KSCERATO' Cerato
Kaike 'KSCERATO' Cerato
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
1186
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.58
Brazil Wilton 'zews' Prado
Wilton 'zews' Prado
Age:
36
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.80
Maps played:
142
KPR:
0.53
DPR:
0.69
Poland Olek 'hades' Miskiewicz
Olek 'hades' Miskiewicz
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1052
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
United Kingdom Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
Age:
41
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
-
Maps played:
0
KPR:
-
DPR:
-
Israel Tal 'meztal' Hahiashvili
Tal 'meztal' Hahiashvili
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
182
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
Russia Robert 'Patsi' Isyanov
Robert 'Patsi' Isyanov
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
765
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1726
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
Romania Iulian 'regali' Harjău
Iulian 'regali' Harjău
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
456
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.61
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1397
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1783
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.62
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1928
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.66
Finland Jimi 'Jimpphat' Salo
Jimi 'Jimpphat' Salo
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
532
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Sweden Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1279
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1914
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
Denmark Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1054
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Emil 'sL1m3' Stolz
Emil 'sL1m3' Stolz
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
144
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1468
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Slovakia David 'frozen' Čerňanský
David 'frozen' Čerňanský
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1511
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
1075
KPR:
0.57
DPR:
0.69
Brazil Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
731
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.63
Ukraine Volodymyr 'Woro2k' Veletniuk
Volodymyr 'Woro2k' Veletniuk
Age:
22
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
884
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.63
Bulgaria Aleks 'Rainwaker' Petrov
Aleks 'Rainwaker' Petrov
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1519
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Poland Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Age:
36
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1597
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.24
Maps played:
1726
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.63
#1
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Poland Nalax
interesting
2024-07-26 15:09
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He continued, "I would compare his style to ZywOo
2024-07-26 15:12
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so zywoo 2.0
2024-07-26 15:37
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#3
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Canada Acuz
might readd my liquid flair
2024-07-26 15:14
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probably will get one or two good placements only for them to fail for the rest of the season
2024-07-26 15:18
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#42
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United States Zer0Smokes
cap, roster is unstoppable. They will actually win an event with this line up
2024-07-27 01:41
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Will glaze JKS to death but this is most realistically whats going to happen
2024-07-27 14:59
1
Another rebuild in 6 months
2024-07-26 15:19
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#40
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Brollan | 
Sweden EntonXD
I don’t understand why teams just don’t get players to max out what theyre good at. Lets get jjs and have him play different roles than the ones he made a name for himself. Lets get gwistzz to igl instead of letting him carry the team like hes done this year. -jks +hooxi or whoever else decent igl they can get, if they do well they might just attract a t1 awper which would make the team play with their strengths and have good players both early round and late round.
2024-07-26 22:43
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Where bleed role breakdown?
2024-07-26 15:19
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#7
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United States Reevengy
sick stats now show by winning some games at an event, next rebuild in 4 months calling it now.
2024-07-26 15:22
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12 players and 4 coaches in less than 3 years, for a big and established org like Liquid, is just insane.
2024-07-26 15:28
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NIP, fnatic, astralis are probably at the same level. Of course, all of them are struggling.
2024-07-26 15:47
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Can you even do good in t side with 2 lurkers?
2024-07-26 15:32
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#24
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Slovakia Psycho2k
Yeah u can,1 can be more passive and 1 more agresive/semi lurk
2024-07-26 16:20
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Literally 4 most passive players you can think of, I don't see how Yeki will carry them
2024-07-26 15:32
0
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20 % opening attempt for ultimate and twistz. "Literally 4 most passive players you can think of". Sure, they are not agressive players, but they are not ultra passive either.
2024-07-26 15:45
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Where are these attempt stats coming from? I don't see anyone with >40% attempts like this is suggesting. hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star..
2024-07-26 15:32
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#13
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United Kingdom NER0cs - HLTV.org
Min maps
2024-07-26 15:40
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1 reply
Ah - set to 5?
2024-07-26 15:41
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#14
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Brazil llomelucas
i think this rooster will deliver, with twistzz igling prime yekindar will be back
2024-07-26 15:41
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2 replies
I hope for a return of Yeki. He is still a good player, but the pressure is on him
2024-07-26 15:46
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1 reply
He won't return, he's still going to be the only aggro player in the team so they'll get countered and he'll get abused in game as a result
2024-07-27 09:17
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#19
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NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
You have the G2 logo for the graphs btw
2024-07-26 15:52
1
why the g2 logo in there :3
2024-07-26 15:58
1
G2 logo is insane
2024-07-26 16:14
5
I said it in another thread. This season is a trial run for twistzz igl. If it goes well, coo. If it doesn't go well we're not EVEN MORE in the red for the year and can try again next tax season (2025.) Thanks Zews
2024-07-26 16:17
0
It's 50/50 for their next match. Either they win or they don't
2024-07-26 16:28
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#27
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Iceland Rablams
I'm impressed with your math skills, you must be a successful bettor
2024-07-26 16:41
7
They will win Blast Group
2024-07-26 18:02
0
Name does not check out
2024-07-27 08:10
1
MUUUUM, Ner0 dropped another banger
2024-07-26 16:48
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#29
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
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Sweden vetten
ffs why did it have to be Ultimate? I would have been really excited for this Liquid lineup if he wasn't the AWPer. He could prove me wrong tho
2024-07-26 16:59
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#51
Faceit level 4  | 
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
the music kit is literally playing for liquid wtf
2024-07-27 14:17
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#30
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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England Mattthematt
I’m not sure I agree that this is a budget lineup. I’d imagine NAF, Twistzz, Yeki and jks will command considerable salaries. Itll be up there with the t1 international organisations in terms of operating costs.
2024-07-26 17:59
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jks has no buyout cost and considering he hasn't been on a team in a year that would lower the salary he would be given. ultimate is literally a nobody so he is probably just happy to be getting paid anything to play CS2 on a good roster with other talented players. They really only have NAF/Twistzz and yekindar but I think they should have cut yekindar awhile ago the dude has just been terrible and I am not really sure how a 3rd roster change is going to get him back in form at this point
2024-07-27 06:11
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I AM MANIFESTING YEKINDARS RETURN TO GLORY, TWISTZZ BEING THE FIRST STAR RIFLER TO SUCCESSFULLY TRANSITION TO IGL, ULTIMATE WILL DO WELL IN TIER 1, AND JKS/NAF WILL CONTINUE THEIR PERFORMANCES AND NOT GET IN EACH OTHERS WAYS. LIQUID WILL BE BACK. THEY WILL WORK. I BELIEVE.
2024-07-26 18:05
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Amen🙏
2024-07-26 19:13
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1 reply
even just 1 or 2 will get them top 10-15. 3 get them to top 8, and if they all come true, then by golly they might win some big tournaments
2024-07-26 20:51
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#44
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Canada Chordal
Man so many variables that need to be addressed for this team to be good. Not looking good chief
2024-07-27 06:16
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1 reply
2024-07-29 15:30
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Twistzz gonna tilt so much he's an emotional guy, he needs to focus on his own game I disagree with this move of him turning into an IGL, that's an even worse decision for him than leaving FaZe
2024-07-26 18:10
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Ez4JKS
2024-07-26 18:16
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sleeper naf vs sleeper jks zzz
2024-07-26 20:59
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#38
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany davidthek1ng
Liquid swaps more coaches than Bayern Munich
2024-07-26 22:27
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Banger article as always. I believe in jks!
2024-07-26 22:37
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Kassad just salty he couldn't get JKS on Bleed lmao
2024-07-26 23:46
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I hope twistzz doesn't become yekindar part 2
2024-07-27 08:09
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#48
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Turkey Joper
Another waste 6 months unlucky
2024-07-27 13:01
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i wonder who stayed in all these rebuilds and if he was the problem 🤔🤔🤔
2024-07-27 14:07
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#50
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
jokasteve is the god of nepotism/job security, i pray to him every night to get higher salary for less work. praise be.
2024-07-27 14:16
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#53
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Cuba Dyabolic
TL trying to ruin twistzz like they did YEKINDAR. SeemsGood
2024-07-28 15:04
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Great article. That ending... oh my my... hope it goes well for this team
2024-07-28 17:01
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twistzz igl oh no no no....
2024-07-28 18:27
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