Valve releases Major seeding ranking update

The 24 teams competing in the Major have been split into two stages.

G2 are the No.1 ranked team in the VRS heading into the Major

Valve has released the last Regional Rankings (VRS) before the Shanghai Major kicks off. This update is used to determine not only the eight teams advancing straight to the Elimination Stage but also the match-ups for the first round of the Opening Stage.

Check out HLTV's live-updated implementation of the Valve Regional Standings here.

The seeding process will follow the results of the previous Major, with each region assigned certain seeds based on how its teams performed in Copenhagen.

This is the reason why the top-eight ranked teams in Europe will skip the first stage and that, for example, The MongolZ have only the 15th-highest seed overall, even though they are ranked fifth in the world in the VRS.

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Valve admits to "unfortunate miscommunication" in Major seeding debacle

3DMAX snatched the final spot in the Elimination Stage, taking advantage of Eternal Fire and SAW's slip-ups in the RMR. The highest-ranked team in the world heading into the Major is G2, followed by Natus Vincere and Vitality.

Below you can find the seeding for the Elimination Stage:

1. Europe G2
2. Europe Natus Vincere
3. Europe Vitality
4. Russia Spirit
5. Europe MOUZ
6. Europe FaZe
7. Europe HEROIC
8. France 3DMAX

As for the Opening Stage, the seeding is:

1. Brazil FURIA
2. Russia Virtus.pro
3. Other Liquid
4. United States Complexity
5. Germany BIG
6. Europe fnatic
7. Mongolia The MongolZ
8. Brazil paiN
9. Europe GamerLegion
10. Brazil MIBR
11. Russia Cloud9
12. Australia FlyQuest
13. Ukraine Passion UA
14. Other Wildcard
15. China Rare Atom
16. Brazil Imperial

Based on this update, these should be the first-round match-ups in the Opening Stage. Perfect World is expected to confirm this information shortly:

Brazil FURIA vs Europe GamerLegion
Russia Virtus.pro vs Brazil MIBR
Other Liquid vs Russia Cloud9
United States Complexity vs Australia FlyQuest
Germany BIG vs Ukraine Passion UA
Europe fnatic vs Other Wildcard
Mongolia The MongolZ vs China Rare Atom
Brazil paiN vs Brazil Imperial

3DMAX LEGENDS XAXAXAXAXA
2024-11-25 18:07
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#18
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s1mple | 
Venezuela Nemesis231
Deserved.
2024-11-25 18:11
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oh yeah im not denying they do unlike bug clan
2024-11-25 18:13
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which bug did they use this time?
2024-11-25 18:17
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relax buddy theyre not mayonnaisy
2024-11-25 18:27
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True, they're BUG Clan, org known only from peaking rank when abusing BUG, unlike Mayonnaisy 1v5'ing AWP god
2024-11-25 21:35
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#184
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Slovakia GloryMole
I remember m0nesy bug abuse do you?
2024-11-25 22:23
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> abusing bug in 2017 > peaking #1 in 2020 now make it make sense
2024-11-25 22:41
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#1 in 2020 makes sense just like NaVi Javelins #32
2024-11-25 22:51
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Imagine still hating a team for using a bug 7 years ago, that pro players like Niko had already been abusing in semi-finals and shit. Typical NA L when it comes to CS.
2024-11-25 22:45
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#1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7 & #21
2024-11-25 18:14
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and VP is #12 but 3dmax qualify over them??
2024-11-25 18:53
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They use the Volvo Ranking, where 3DMAX is #13 and VP is #16
2024-11-25 18:56
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Yes but 3DMAX is ranked higher in the Eu Valve Ranking hltv.org/valve-ranking/teams/2024/novemb..
2024-11-25 19:02
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beta ranking with hidden details unlike hltv one
2024-11-25 19:26
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#118
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Belarus slpng
2024-11-25 18:58
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2024-11-25 19:07
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#44
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Miami | 
Sweden SavageSven
I am AMAZED
2024-11-25 18:18
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#58
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Russia superopik
They wins all T2 Tournaments
2024-11-25 18:23
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#103
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United States alexmilk2
What did they win?
2024-11-25 18:48
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#80
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donk | 
United States J_83
WAIT WHAT
2024-11-25 18:36
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#90
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NiKo | 
United Kingdom AcElegit
they're a good team bro idk why people think they suck
2024-11-25 18:40
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I guess its just that people dont want a repeat of blast major, 3 tier 2 teams made it to top 8
2024-11-25 18:41
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and deservedly so
2024-11-25 19:08
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#144
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NiKo | 
United Kingdom AcElegit
yeah but that doesn't look like it's gonna happen this time unless something CRAZY happens
2024-11-25 19:28
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#91
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland Astoner55
I mean, they won their bo3 against the #1 team in the Valve rankings (g2), so ofc they're gonna go to legends over BiG, they reached their legend spot fair and square
2024-11-25 18:41
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Its not about who they beat, its just about the Valve Ranking, where 3DMAX is the 4th highest ranked team that made it trough RMR B.
2024-11-25 19:04
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Yeah and they absolutely deserve it.
2024-11-25 20:47
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#2
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kyousuke | 
Poland nr1_S1mple_fan
S1mple GOAT
2024-11-25 18:07
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1-3'd out of the RMRs
2024-11-25 18:09
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bumping this so someone can explain to me why mongolz arent #1 seed in opening stage?
2024-11-25 20:49
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#193
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Europe Squirel
good question
2024-11-25 23:42
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Good question actually
2024-11-26 03:58
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#206
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China AdaPt3R
This is the reason why the top-eight ranked teams in Europe will skip the first stage and that, for example, The MongolZ have only the 15th-highest seed overall, even though they are ranked fifth in the world in the VRS. I also don't understand this part
2024-11-26 06:04
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As I understand it, it depends on the results of the regional teams at the last major. For example, in Copenhagen pain finished with the score 2-3. Thanks to this the 1st seed in the opening stage got the highest ranked American team - FURIA. This surprised me a lot too, because I thought the results of the last major only decided how many slots each region would get.
2024-11-27 13:10
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Thanks, seems weird to not just do slots in each stage and then use current VRS for seeding. Like people are mad BIG didnt make the next stage but I actually think thats perfectly fine since their ranking is so low but mongolz should be highest in the opening stage
2024-11-27 14:23
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WIN!!!
2024-11-25 18:08
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Lets goo
2024-11-25 18:08
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deserved spot for 3dmax
2024-11-25 18:08
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really again BIG vs Passion UA?
2024-11-25 18:08
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Don't worry Passion will win, it's BO1
2024-11-25 18:14
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they won 5/5 first maps in rmr
2024-11-25 21:06
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RARE ATOM EASY 0-3
2024-11-25 18:10
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Easily the worst team at the Major. SAW or EF would annihilate them 100/100 times.
2024-11-25 21:57
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beating Mongolz hasn't been a problem for RA lately tho...
2024-11-26 00:52
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#201
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Argentina LuisG
always talking early.. let's see now
2024-11-26 03:00
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#8
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
KRIMZ | 
Sweden Lackstrom
What ? Stealing positions cuz big money org ???
2024-11-25 18:08
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"The seeding process will follow the results of the previous Major"
2024-11-25 18:38
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after they had one whole group finished and 2 teams already "qualified" in rmr B for the elimination stage to change rules is unheard of and would NEVER work in normal sports and thats one of the biggest reasons why Esports will not be seen as a normal sports for years to come. the whole Competitive Integrity is in shambles for this major from now on
2024-11-25 19:12
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They never changed the rules, Perfect World fucked up, relwx. There's a path for BIG to make it anyway and then it's moot.
2024-11-25 19:30
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i mean valve fucked up and even admitted it. why you still say its not the case? that there is no bigger outrage is insane. its only because the "fan favorites" got their spot. you could not do such thing anywhere else. you just call the CAS and its over. why do the teams that have read the PW rulebook (approved by valve) will now get a disadvantage? what is this in the first place. we have 2 huge francise leagues (ESL & Blast) which inflate the VRS with free points for everyone invold. so if you are a really good team but cant compete in any of those leagues cause its nearly impossible to do so ( specially with blast events) so the orgs with a lot of money get free invites for the RMR's and now they get favored again even if they play shit like spirit the last matches. that means that you emphazise any team which is in the VRS ranking on the 1-8 spot just to relax and play like shit in the RMRs cause it doesnt matter for them anyways they can go 3-2 and save strats which will fuck up the swiss system and upcomming matches. The whole VRS is fucked and bad for for a fair sport. edit: i really dont get it the system is so wrong and manipulated from prizemoney its insane. because i have a german flag i really dont care if its big or any other team. Im really happy for 3dmax that they got the legends spot cause they deserved it fair and square. Spirit on the other hand didnt and should play the opening stage
2024-11-25 19:47
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Nobody liked the decider because it's influenced by the Buchholz system which spits out "random matchups" because big team got all the minnows and struggled to beat em while the minnows ran amok on the bracket and suddenly it's Sprout against fucking Cybershoke for a spot in Legends. Elo system (used in Majors in 2019 and will be used again in Pro League next year) is confusing. VRS favors teams higher up the rankings to get invited over and over again. Yet each system does what it's supposed to, is working but gets exposed. And as for prize money, it's shit now but should get better as the Tier distinctions take shape and stop rewarding teams winning big prize pools on events that have next to no competition (other than events skipped because the schedule is so condensed)
2024-11-25 20:36
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#9
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United States revokefps
pog 3dmax rip bug clan only change is big+vp -> heroic+spirit
2024-11-25 18:13
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goated commennt, didnt want to check that myself
2024-11-25 19:24
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succinctly
2024-11-26 08:29
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justice for 3dmax
2024-11-25 18:09
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C9 beats Liquid and Passion UA beats BIG
2024-11-25 18:09
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Dream more, Liquid will humble clown9 as always
2024-11-25 18:14
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#212
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Philippines B3nk4i
years of being a liquid fan have taught me that we can lose to anyone
2024-11-26 09:37
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This version of Liquid only loses to Vitality, Faze and G2.
2024-11-26 17:33
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#222
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Philippines B3nk4i
2024-11-26 18:22
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I'd call it an unfortunate turn of events.
2024-11-26 22:57
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#14
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Poland Vlayder
Feel bad for BIG
2024-11-25 18:09
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#123
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Yugoslavia Oopsie
Yeah, this feels bad. With this way it should in theory be possible for a team that went 3-0 with 52-0 (+52) rounds in rmr vs highest ranked teams gets opening stage while a team with 4-2 and 104-166 (-62) rounds vs lowest ranked teams can go to elimination stage all because they had more vrs points
2024-11-25 19:00
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#158
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United States PlankCS
That's why Shanghai is the last major with rmr qualification
2024-11-25 20:38
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maybe if they wouldnt suck whole year the situation would be diffrent
2024-11-25 21:07
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and exactly that, its the worst and saddest outcome dedicated to the players, what they could let in thier heads right now.... In a moment when they should be rewarded and feel even more powerful and scary to other teams. They were robbed of these "powerups" and the tournament lost it as well. I just hope that guys are able to convert this situation and make the story even more outstanding. W
2024-11-26 00:26
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Vive la France!
2024-11-25 18:10
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#16
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zont1x | 
Poland JonaSz_
tf is that match-ups?? The MongolZ vs Rare Atom paiN vs Imperial BIG vs Passion UA
2024-11-25 18:10
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#19
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India se1ze
Ez rare atom 0-3 pick
2024-11-25 18:11
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"So we opted to trade some frustration now with having better matchups at the Major."
2024-11-25 18:24
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#66
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Cayman Islands LasMedicinas
Before the update u had flyquest vs ra. Now u can put RA on 0-3 at least
2024-11-25 18:27
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deserve for 3dmax it's a shame that the new logo just has to ruin everything
2024-11-25 18:10
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#20
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United States festivve
MongolZ as 15th seed overall makes no sense but otherwise this looks good/fair.
2024-11-25 18:12
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I don't understand why?
2024-11-25 18:15
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#97
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France CaesarXV
because they finished in 0-3 in the last major as best APAC team, so 15-16, and they are APAC 1st seed
2024-11-25 18:45
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What does APAC stands for?
2024-11-25 19:25
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Asstralis Plastered At Shangai
2024-11-25 20:39
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#213
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Turkey 3bouss
thank you for the genuine laugh
2024-11-26 09:57
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#185
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France CaesarXV
Asia-PACific
2024-11-25 22:25
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#117
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United States alexmilk2
I think decision makers are still underestimating us. Wait till we 3-0 Navi in the final
2024-11-25 18:57
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#21
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Algeria SilverQuick
G2 your time is now 👍
2024-11-25 18:12
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#22
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Germany qnxz
So who is it that stole the spot from BIG? Heroic?
2024-11-25 18:12
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#35
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United States sziasztok
mr "nearly shit the bed 3-2" spirit
2024-11-25 18:15
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mr "1xbet is my main sponsor" spirit
2024-11-25 18:54
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Heroic did not have to play a decider vs vp
2024-11-25 18:30
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#23
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland M1K120
0-3DMAX ez diamond pickem
2024-11-25 18:12
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Silver coiner.
2024-11-25 18:35
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#104
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Czech Republic PaYaB
their 1st game will be vs the worst advancing team from the opening stage
2024-11-25 18:50
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Easy win for Passion UA
2024-11-25 18:12
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#25
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Netherlands Korra
Big fucking robbed
2024-11-25 18:13
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They never deserved it to begin with
2024-11-25 18:46
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they did. if you go 3-0 you derserve it,
2024-11-25 19:28
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If you suck ass whole year you dont deserve to be at the major. They are lucky to be here
2024-11-25 21:09
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flukes shouldn't deserve anything. earn it throughout the year, not from three games.
2024-11-25 21:29
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That's why it is a good move to go away from these rmrs so that upset lovers don't get a chance for such rants
2024-11-25 23:29
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#27
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United States sziasztok
JUSTICE FOR BIG
2024-11-25 18:14
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#29
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Poland b0rdeG
crazy
2024-11-25 18:14
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#31
Faceit level 10  | 
tory | 
Poland xOwcA
BiG not in top16 lets gooooooooo
2024-11-25 18:14
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#32
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kyousuke | 
Poland nr1_S1mple_fan
How spirit is there if they had 4-2?
2024-11-25 18:14
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2024-11-25 18:17
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why vp challengers :(
2024-11-25 18:14
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#37
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Romania aLeeeeex
GamerLegion u got this against KEKRIA
2024-11-25 18:16
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3DMAX win this
2024-11-25 18:16
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#39
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Poland ad3mq
imagine get 3-0 and no legends AHAHAHHH
2024-11-25 18:16
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#51
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North America hi_mens))
With a team that went 4-2 replacing you
2024-11-25 18:21
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easy to imagine flukes not deserving a spot and consistent good throughout the year teams deserving it.
2024-11-25 21:32
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WTF Valve is doing. According the their matchups it's better to be team 8 and not team 1. LOL Usually you are making matches like 1-16, 2-15... 8-9, and NOT like 1-9, 2-10... 8-16
2024-11-25 18:19
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#45
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Egypt BomberMan_
For whatever genius reason the first round of Swiss is 1v 9 2 v 10 etc.
2024-11-25 18:18
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seeding was changed a while ago, it's the first major to do so
2024-11-25 18:18
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copenhagen was using the exact same system
2024-11-25 18:32
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I meant it's not the first major to do so, ty for correction
2024-11-25 18:35
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#108
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Czech Republic PaYaB
you're right and that would be the way if there was possible rematches, with no rematches and starting with 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 etc it is more likely that the 9th and 10th seed have easier matchups than 7th and 8th seed (since they meet in the 1st game and can't meet again)
2024-11-25 18:53
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This was changed in previous, Copenhagen major, because in the end, if all favorites win, now we will have 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 to the next round, when with the old(1-16;2-15;3-14...) system, if all favorites would win, we would have 2-1-3-4-7-5-6-11, so you see that it's worse with old system.
2024-11-25 20:04
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#162
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Brazil MrLucas
The result of a lazy and stupid attempt to fix the flawed system that is Buchholz.
2024-11-25 20:43
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#43
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Egypt BomberMan_
what in the mickey mouse bullshit makes mongolz 5th seed in the first round? Why would region spots effect the actual seeding?
2024-11-25 18:17
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#46
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United States j3tta
Sad for VP missing out on Legends by ONE spot in EU, but 3DMAX deserved that spot.
2024-11-25 18:18
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BIG scammed
2024-11-25 18:19
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#49
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Russia i0n1x
the amount of clueless people in the comments... its not like this system is implemented for the first time, we had all of this in the past major and people still dont understand
2024-11-25 18:20
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#83
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Germany Markie84
And you don't understand that the rules were different for the 4 Shanghai RMRs played before and even after 80% of the EU RMR B. You don't change the rules after 90% of the matches of all RMRs have played. This is not about whether the rules are good or bad. It's about not changing fundamental rules in the middle of a tournament. Or should the Premier League simply count the results of the previous season instead of counting wins and draws after matchday 30? Valve has outed itself as a completely incompetent and dubious company. How the hell is it even possible that a company like Valve only realizes after almost 4 weeks that the RMR is being played with the wrong rules?
2024-11-25 18:37
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#87
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Russia i0n1x
cope
2024-11-25 18:38
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#52
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Ukraine d3adLY
Rare atom / flyquest 0-3
2024-11-25 18:21
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#53
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Miami | 
Sweden SavageSven
Thank you to the writers for acknowledging Mongolz VRS seed
2024-11-25 18:22
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Lets goooooo 3DMAXXXXXXX Still sad for big tho :/
2024-11-25 18:23
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Spirit got Legends 'cause they got 3-2 and is better team BiG got Elimination 'cause they got 3-0 and is worse team What you don't understand? :D
2024-11-25 18:22
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#96
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Germany Smartest_Fakeflagger
Spirit getting rewarded for nearly choking making it to the major in general seems fair yeah
2024-11-25 18:44
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#202
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Argentina LuisG
how many tournaments did big win through the year?
2024-11-26 03:05
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#56
Faceit level 10  | 
tN1R | 
Canada AtomiXQc
Spirit 4-2 straight to the legend stage. NAUR
2024-11-25 18:22
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#57
Faceit premium user Faceit level 9  | 
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Germany Smartest_Fakeflagger
why do they seed #1 vs #9 and then going downwards... wouldnt it make sense to have #1 play #16, #2 vs #15 and so on?
2024-11-25 18:23
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#122
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Czech Republic PaYaB
check out this thread, it has some logic behind it when we don't allow rematches x.com/messioso/status/164438965894237389..
2024-11-25 18:59
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#163
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Brazil MrLucas
2024-11-25 20:44
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#60
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Paraguay LifeHater
Imperial worst seed? I aren't thinking that
2024-11-25 18:24
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Is that really the "better matchups for the major"?
2024-11-25 18:24
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#62
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Nepal ekadeshma
What are these matchups and how are mongolz lower seeded. Wtf
2024-11-25 18:24
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#63
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Germany Markie84
Valve you have said you will take responsibility for the fraud against BIG. We're still waiting to see exactly what that responsibility looks like. Or was that ridiculous interview yesterday everything?
2024-11-25 18:26
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#68
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Nepal ekadeshma
I heard the Germans are getting punished because a German streamer exploited the rules of the Asian RMR. Deserved imo.
2024-11-25 18:28
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#160
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United States PlankCS
Their statement was taking responsibility. They have already done it by admitting fault. Do you not understand English or what?
2024-11-25 20:41
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#64
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Cayman Islands LasMedicinas
Heroic elimination stage, old heroic taking vacations
2024-11-25 18:26
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3DMAX legends stage lol
2024-11-25 18:27
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Why n1 seeding is still playing number 8 instead of 16? It remains dumb and the excuse of "preventing a mess if good team get upset" has been proved false in the RMR B. It's funny that the thing they should be using the ranking for they do it incorrectly.
2024-11-25 18:29
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Cuz swiss design try to qualify teams with his score, not eliminate. Thats the base of this sistem.
2024-11-25 20:06
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#71
Faceit level 10  | 
Italy Ote||o
justice for 3DMax
2024-11-25 18:31
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BIG robbed fr
2024-11-25 18:33
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very cool for 3dmax
2024-11-25 18:35
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#77
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Austria ch1llMODE
BIG robbed
2024-11-25 18:36
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You can't actually make an argument that BIG deserves legend stage when all year they were shit not making any play-off apperance on tier 1 tournaments Imagine defending BIG a team that has lots of money (and despite that they have no results) for not getting into legend stage after beating only 1 good team (Heroic) in a bo1 and 2 other teams that are 50+ in world ranking On another note I would've been more disappointed if 3dmax would have not made it to the legend stage, that's the team that really deserves the legend stage and they got it, good job to them
2024-11-25 18:35
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#79
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France Uexo
Nice for 3DMAX
2024-11-25 18:35
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#81
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Asia crawlie
I just dont understand how spirit seeding 7th in the rmr qualification directly goes to elimination stage, Like how is this even possible. Its crazy how this VRS takes precedence and not how they qualified
2024-11-25 18:36
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spirit all year was in top5 you're just stupid
2024-11-25 19:35
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#82
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Finland KuiQula
G2 nr 1 lol, Valve is delulu
2024-11-25 18:37
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#84
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Mongolia TmJay
mongolz 15th seed i mean we all know they place higher but it is what it is
2024-11-25 18:38
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#86
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Singapore rshcaz
Asia vs Asia???
2024-11-25 18:38
0
#88
rain | 
United States celtek
3DMAX is #8 seed and #13 in the world according to VRS? The fuck??
2024-11-25 18:40
0
#89
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Finland Leverkusen
Spirit and Heroic doesn't deserve stage skip tbh
2024-11-25 18:40
4
2 replies
#95
Faceit level 7  | 
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Poland Jxcek
onggghg this is some bs
2024-11-25 18:43
1
agreed BIG deserves it more
2024-11-25 18:55
1
#93
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Germany Markie84
"So we opted to trade some frustration now with having better matchups at the Major." So we're doing the same matches again - brilliant Valve. Really brilliant.
2024-11-25 18:42
6
#94
Faceit level 10  | 
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Sweden MiNTz
Extremely deserved legends spot for 3DMAX atleast. They beat G2 for it, they deserve it.
2024-11-25 18:43
3
g2 will win major, mark my words
2024-11-25 18:45
0
#99
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil hugoooo
3DMAX hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
2024-11-25 18:46
0
#101
Faceit level 9  | 
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France SSENSEY
3DMAX get legends with thé best seeding possible Will fight de last in seeding, all planneed
2024-11-25 18:47
0
#105
Faceit level 8  | 
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Switzerland Husey13
Rare atom Mongolz lets go
2024-11-25 18:52
0
#106
Faceit level 10  | 
United Kingdom kennyvenom
Looks fairly accurate to me. Only thing I’d swap is 3dmax for liquid.
2024-11-25 18:52
0
BIG robbed
2024-11-25 18:54
1
#JUSTICEFORBIG
2024-11-25 18:56
4
Passion UA vs BIG again ?
2024-11-25 18:57
0
Can someone explain the seeding? How are mongolz #5 world and not #1 in opening stage I understand why they wont skip a stage but not exact seeding
2024-11-25 19:01
1
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#129
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Czech Republic PaYaB
because valve made it so the results of the previous major make the seeding for the next one, so if the best asian team ended 12th last time, the best ranked team that qualified fot the next major will hold the 4th seed in the opening stage
2024-11-25 19:05
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#207
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China AdaPt3R
I am dumb, why it will be the 4th seed instead of any other number?
2024-11-26 06:13
0
1 reply
#216
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Czech Republic PaYaB
the seeding for this major copies the standings from the last major, example: best asian team finished 15th overall last time (mongolz), so that means the best asian team this time is placed in that exact seeding possition at this major (15th overall=7th in the opening stage)
2024-11-26 11:05
1
#130
 | 
Other KittyVN
Because of their region being low ranked because of last major. They are only first seed of their region
2024-11-25 19:06
1
#119
 | 
Europe MackyGeee
BIG CLAN ROBBED REPORTED ALREADY
2024-11-25 18:58
1
G2 at 1 🤢🤢🤢🤢
2024-11-25 18:59
2
Please not Passion again, we like them :(
2024-11-25 18:59
3
1 reply
#126
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Germany Markie84
"So we opted to trade some frustration now with having better matchups at the Major."
2024-11-25 19:03
3
#FREEBIG #GABENBIGFATBULLY #PROTEST #BOYCOTT #VIVALARÉSISTANCE
2024-11-25 19:01
5
Hello Volvo why navi top 2? where i can report this comapny
2024-11-25 19:05
1
Please no MR12 BO1s.
2024-11-25 19:06
1
Poland deadass region once again hell nah
2024-11-25 19:09
0
#136
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United States blargCS
please don't get exposed game 1 fnatic
2024-11-25 19:11
0
#137
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Sweden Vrede
VP KEKW
2024-11-25 19:16
0
#138
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China RADNIKEY
BIG scammed so hard
2024-11-25 19:17
0
t3 onliners in legend ok cancel bo1 is a joke
2024-11-25 19:31
0
BIG got fckd hard but tbh I agree with the elimination stage teams. I wouldn't change it
2024-11-25 19:30
1
Why top 8 seed get Top 16 and top 1 seed get top 9? makes absolutely no sense.
2024-11-25 19:51
0
nice
2024-11-25 20:02
0
#151
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Brazil Heineck
Would love how the fuck they managed to make Rare Atom have better seeding than Imperial, it makes absolutely NO SENSE
2024-11-25 20:04
0
1 reply
#169
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Czech Republic PaYaB
because furia finished in last place in Copenhagen, that's how Valve made it work
2024-11-25 21:04
0
I was angry with this new change, and actually I am still angry, because they changed during the event, which is imo bad, but only change is that BIG would have been in Elimination, when Spirit would have been in Opening, so we don't have a lot of changes, but it is what it is, we will still watch it, doesn't matter which system we will have.
2024-11-25 20:11
1
1 reply
#203
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Argentina LuisG
stay angry
2024-11-26 03:51
0
why is imp ranked last?
2024-11-25 20:12
0
1 reply
Due to valve ranks
2024-11-25 20:36
1
still waiting for valve to "take the responsibility"...however that is supposed to look like...
2024-11-25 20:41
0
does anyone have a clue how is furia top 8 hltv and 1st in Oppeining stage by VRS?
2024-11-25 20:45
0
2 replies
#174
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Fiji uho
Well, They are different rankings?
2024-11-25 21:13
0
1 reply
i mean how are they so high
2024-11-26 17:20
0
BIG robbed big time
2024-11-25 20:58
0
#171
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
pufko | 
United States pufko
curious how this will look next major with no RMRs
2024-11-25 21:06
0
Bullshit ranking. HLTV ranking is better.
2024-11-25 21:19
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#176
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Scotland TWGKofi
Mongolz v Rare Atom Round 1 is criminal
2024-11-25 21:22
1
Some real dumb stuff here. They say VRS takes precedence over RMR result, and somehow MongolZ dont get an elimination spot, after being 5th in VRS? Its completely ridiculous to have an RMR, your ranking previous to the RMR, and then your regions placing at the previous major all affecting where you start the major. Why have an RMR then? MongolZ robbed
2024-11-25 22:10
2
VAMO IMPERIAL!!!!
2024-11-25 22:13
0
#183
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China halflife2
lol, Asian conflict. rA vs. Mongolz.
2024-11-25 22:17
0
1 reply
Brazilian too - PaiN vs Imperial
2024-11-26 00:28
0
#186
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
North Macedonia espiar
at least 3:0 teams put directly in major... this is bs
2024-11-25 22:40
0
#190
Faceit level 10  | 
Jame | 
Chad deeeadpool
will vp ever not get fucked by things out of their control
2024-11-25 22:54
0
VRS what a joke lol g2 is not 1# team at all, so navi win major and goes to 6 grand finals in a row with 3 won and somehow g2 is #1? ya valve is confirmed retareded with this and then these half baked changes mid rmr. what a mickey mouse major
2024-11-25 22:55
0
#194
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
this is lame
2024-11-25 23:51
0
#198
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Brazil Heineck
Someone needs to come out and explain these rankings and seedings to the public, because it doesn’t make any sense, PaiN is one place below VP in the vrs and somehow only has the 8th seed while VP has the 2nd seed, and I don’t understand how Imperial has the lowest seed even though they’re higher ranked than 4 or 5 of the other teams.
2024-11-26 01:24
0
2 replies
#204
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Argentina LuisG
valve ranking is different than hltv ranking
2024-11-26 03:52
0
1 reply
#215
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Brazil Heineck
I know that, what is your point?
2024-11-26 11:05
0
#199
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Brazil Heineck
We need answers from who made these decisions on the seeding system, how is the mongolz 5th in the world rankings and only 7th seed in the opening stage? And if the reason is the last major how do we have two american teams in the bottom three seeds if the four worst teams in Copenhagen were all European teams?????
2024-11-26 01:43
0
Is it just me but using seeding from previous major results kinda weird maybe always been the case but idk
2024-11-26 02:49
0
#209
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Germany phillo283
Spirit with 3:2 and BIG with 3:0 switching places is such a shame.
2024-11-26 08:22
0
#214
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Philippines B3nk4i
Bro how the fuck is fnatic a higher seed than the mongols??
2024-11-26 10:19
0
#218
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United States B1Gamez
GamerLegion upset incoming.
2024-11-26 14:27
0
Furia being ranked number one is the biggest robbery i have ever seen
2024-11-26 16:13
0
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