Top 20 players of 2024: broky (8)

broky lands in the eighth spot of the Top 20 players of 2024 ranking by 1xBet and SkinClub after displaying incredible peak form that led to an impressive list of individual accolades.

Top 20 players of 2024: Introduction

Helvijs "⁠broky⁠" Saukants makes his fourth consecutive appearance in the Top 20 players rankings after a consistent year full of second-place finishes. The Latvian Laser also secures his third top 10 placing in a row following his debut at No. 20 in 2021 to firmly establish himself as one of the era's premier talents and a pivotal presence in FaZe's greatest accomplishments.

broky propelled FaZe during their eight-event grand final run that began after the release of CS2 and remained a force to be reckoned with during FaZe's dry spell, which was enough for him to finish 2024 as the highest-ranked player on the team.

He won the MVP award at IEM Chengdu, FaZe's only title of the year, and collected a plethora of EVP awards at IEM Katowice, Copenhagen Major, ESL Pro League S19, and BLAST Fall Final.

For a more in-depth look at broky's early career and backstory, you can read through his previous appearances in our Top 20 ranking:

- Top 20 players of 2021: broky (20)
- Top 20 players of 2022: broky (6)
- Top 20 players of 2023: broky (10)

Latviabroky
2024 Tournament stats
TournamentEvent Team (place) Rating 2.1 (in team) ADR KPR DPR Impact KAST Award
IEM Katowice
(2nd)
1.07 (3rd, +2%) 70.5 0.72 0.62 0.96 75.6% EVP
PGL Major
(2nd)
1.17 (1st, +12%) 77.7 0.75 0.59 1.14 76.1% EVP
IEM Chengdu
(1st)
1.19 (1st, +10%) 78.2 0.79 0.56 1.05 78.0% MVP
ESL Pro League S19
(5-8th)
1.18 (1st, +12%) 78.5 0.81 0.61 1.08 78.9% EVP
IEM Dallas
(5-6th)
1.02 (1st, +7%) 68.5 0.67 0.66 0.96 71.3%
BLAST Spring Final
(5-6th)
1.14 (1st, +13%) 76.4 0.77 0.63 1.15 72.0%
Esports World Cup
(5-8th)
1.15 (1st, +12%) 76.3 0.71 0.62 1.08 76.0%
IEM Cologne
(5-6th)
1.02 (4th, -0%) 69.3 0.64 0.61 0.87 75.5%
ESL Pro League S20
(13-16th)
1.03 (4th, -7%) 66.9 0.63 0.56 0.88 77.7%
BLAST Fall Final
(3-4th)
1.27 (1st, +19%) 84.3 0.86 0.60 1.24 80.7% EVP
IEM Rio
(7-8th)
1.08 (3rd, +3%) 71.4 0.71 0.64 1.06 72.1%
BLAST World Final
(5-6th)
0.92 (4th, -6%) 60.9 0.59 0.61 0.76 73.1%
PW Major
(2nd)
1.00 (4th, -2%) 69.4 0.64 0.62 0.81 72.4%
5%+ above average
5%+ below average
Closer than 5% to average

FaZe entered the year in blistering form after ending 2023 with five consecutive grand finals and three trophies. Their first tournament of the season was BLAST Spring Groups, where they recovered from an opening loss against GamerLegion to comfortably progress to the Spring Final, with broky averaging a 1.13 rating.

IEM Katowice was next on the agenda, where the Latvian shone and helped FaZe secure playoffs with solid performances. His 1.19 average rating against Rebels and a standout 1.58-rated decider map against Eternal Fire were crucial, though he couldn't stop FaZe from falling to Spirit in the group final.

The Latvian then shifted into a higher gear in the playoffs and demolished G2 (1.56) and MOUZ (1.31) to earn a rematch against the red-hot Spirit, who once again proved too much to handle. Thanks to the carry performances in the first two playoffs rounds, broky earned his first EVP award of the year as FaZe extended their grand-final streak to six in a row.

FaZe came into 2024 full of confidence after five consecutive grand finals

Next came the Copenhagen Major RMR, where FaZe made light work of their opponents to qualify with a 3-1 record. broky had an off game against 9 Pandas, who FaZe still beat easily, and answered the blip with five consecutive maps over a 1.00 rating.

He stood out as FaZe's best-rated player by 0.27 rating in the loss against G2 before his 30-kill performance in the double-overtime battle against Eternal Fire proved pivotal in ensuring Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen's troops booked their ticket to the Major.

FaZe's campaign in Copenhagen didn't get off to the greatest start. Losses to HEROIC and Eternal Fire on either side of a win against FURIA, where broky put up a server-high 1.56 rating, meant FaZe found themselves in the 1-2 pool.

broky got FaZe through to the playoffs after putting up a 1.36 rating against Imperial, 0.29 more than his closest teammate, and a 1.42 against Complexity in the decider match.

He then outshone Danil "⁠donk⁠" Kryshkovets in the quarter-final with his 1.28 overall rating, 82 ADR, and 0.84 KPR to get his team in the top four, where FaZe faced off against Vitality. Even though broky had a quieter game against Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut and company, FaZe powered through to their seventh straight grand final, but their quest for a 2024 title was cut short by Natus Vincere.

"Continuing the grand-final streak at the start of the year felt good until we ended up second each time," broky tells HLTV. "I would rather be in last place than go through all the feelings of finishing in second place at the biggest tournaments."

Losing several finals at the start of 2024 was a tough time for FaZe, says broky

That changed in Chengdu, where FaZe claimed their first title with the help of broky's MVP-worthy performance. The team started steadily and beat Nemiga thanks to broky's 1.49-rated performance, but their momentum hit a bump with a loss to Astralis in the following match.

Two more standout maps by broky helped FaZe beat Cloud9 and FlyQuest, which got them into the playoffs, where the Latvian took matters into his own hands. He led FaZe in rating (1.23) as he took the bracket by storm after a mixed effort in the group stage, often serving as more of a hybrid than a dedicated AWPer.

He was FaZe's top performer against Liquid with a 1.31 rating, 0.12 ahead of his closest teammate, and played well in their revenge victory against Astralis (1.16). broky then dominated MOUZ in the first map of the grand final with a 105 ADR, 0.96 KPR, and a 1.93 impact rating on Overpass before his teammates ensured FaZe won Nuke and got their first title of the year.

"Winning IEM Chengdu was like getting dessert without having the main course," broky admits. "After placing second at Katowice and Copenhagen Major, this was a much-needed win for us as a team."

FaZe won their only 2024 title at IEM Chengdu

After finally breaking their duck, FaZe flew to Malta for ESL Pro League S19 aiming to extend their grand final streak to nine, but the event would prove to be a turning point in their season.

Even though broky carried over his strong performances from China and secured an EVP award, FaZe faced a noticeable slump. The Latvian star posted a 1.28 rating against Imperial and delivered key performances in wins over Virtus.pro (1.38) and Eternal Fire (1.19) to help the team qualify for the playoffs.

The 23-year-old was then the deciding factor in their playoff match against Monte after putting up 1.71 and 1.85 ratings in FaZe's two map wins. broky also topped the board on the second map against Natus Vincere which got FaZe a spot in the quarter-final, but he wasn't able to prevent the loss to Vitality.

ZywOo and company won the match 2-0 and put a stop to FaZe's grand final streak in a game that would mark the change of tide for karrigan and company. The defeat set the tone for FaZe's performances in their next events, as they would place 5-6th in both IEM Dallas and the BLAST Spring Final.

Though broky struggled in Dallas with a 1.02 rating — his second-lowest of the season — he narrowly finished as FaZe's top-rated player, edging out the rest of the team by a small margin. Usually good for a couple of big peaks, the Latvian was middling in all but one map, a 1.58 in an opening map loss to Virtus.pro.

"There is an event pretty much every second week, so even if we didn't have the best results in the last few tournaments, we are always more motivated to do better in the next event," broky says about motivation during the rough patch of results.

FaZe entered a slump after their triumph in Chengdu

The BLAST Spring Final was far better for broky as he once again finished the event as FaZe's best player (1.14 rating), but the team was left without a deep run once again. The Latvian was crucial in FaZe's only win against SAW (1.20) and played well in their loss against Natus Vincere (1.08).

broky also spearheaded the demolition of Vitality on a 1.87-rated Inferno, but FaZe couldn't build on that and petered out in a 1-2 loss that sent them into the summer break in lackluster form.

FaZe's struggles persisted at their first event after the break, the Esports World Cup. broky topped the board to get them over the line against a persistent FlyQuest (1.32) before Natus Vincere got the better of the European combine to eliminate them in the first round of the playoffs.

BLAST Fall Groups were up next, and broky once again topped the board in their solitary win against Cloud9 (1.18). He had a consistent tournament across the board but was without his usual peaks, as his highest-rated map came against the aforementioned Russian squad (1.34 on Dust2).

IEM Cologne followed much the same storyline, as broky failed to get going in their opening matches against Liquid and Vitality. He stepped up when FaZe found themselves on the brink of elimination, however, and posted five above-average maps against Falcons (1.30 rating) and Liquid (1.09), helping FaZe complete a historic 1-11 comeback with a masterful CT showing.

broky's FaZe completed a 1-11 comeback in Cologne

This helped FaZe progress to the playoffs, where they were defeated by SAW after a disappearance in the two map losses by the Latvian.

FaZe then flew to Malta for ESL Pro League S20 and narrowly qualified for the playoffs. Although broky's average rating of 1.03 didn't meet his usual standards, he began to display some stronger peaks that had been missing from his play following the summer break.

He recorded a 1.31 on Nuke against Sangal, a 1.44 versus FlyQuest on Anubis, and was crucial in their win over Ninjas in Pyjamas with a 1.29 overall rating. But he also had the lows to match, a bottom-of-the-board 0.70 rating seeing FaZe eliminated at the hands of Complexity in the first playoffs round.

Next up was the BLAST Fall Final, where FaZe found their rhythm once again thanks to a rejuvenated broky, who delivered his highest-rated event of the year. The Latvian topped the board against G2 with a 1.00 rating as FaZe's struggles seemed to continue, but he shifted into a higher gear straight after and put up eight consecutive maps with a positive rating.

broky finished top of the scoreboard against Falcons (1.41) to get his team into the playoffs, where they met Liquid. FaZe dispatched Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken's men with ease and lost just nine rounds across the two maps to come into the semi-final against Natus Vincere with renewed confidence.

FaZe got their mojo back at the BLAST Fall Final

broky was tremendous on the Inferno opener against Aleksi "⁠Aleksib⁠" Virolainen's troops and put up a 1.84 rating as FaZe claimed a 13-10 victory. He continued to fight hard in a narrow 11-13 loss on Ancient and was the only member of FaZe to maintain pressure in the 2-13 stomping on the decider. As a result, he finished the series with a 0.30 rating advantage over his closest teammate and earned an EVP award for his efforts.

"During BLAST Fall Final, everything clicked for us, we even managed to win a game without it getting close like it usually does," broky recalls.

Then came IEM Rio, where FaZe and broky couldn't reach the playoffs once again. The 23-year-old had a steady 1.08-rated performance across the tournament and had some solid peaks, notably against paiN (1.19) and Liquid (1.44), but was unable to prevent an early exit against MOUZ.

BLAST World Final was up next, and the Singaporean event proved to be broky's worst of the year. He averaged a 0.92 rating and had only one outstanding map, a 1.44-rated Mirage against Natus Vincere, which came in FaZe's solitary win at the tournament.

karrigan's troops then flew to Shanghai for the final act of the 2024 Counter-Strike season. The RMR was a breeze for the European combine despite their shaky form coming into the event, as wins against Cloud9, Falcons, and fnatic meant they progressed with a 3-1 record. broky, however, was yet to activate and averaged a 0.96 rating across the qualification event.

The Latvian's struggles continued throughout the Major's Elimination Stage, where he averaged a 0.90 rating as FaZe squeaked through to the playoffs by the skin of their teeth after a 2-1 win over FURIA.

In the playoffs, though, broky came alive and supplemented Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool's superstar numbers with aplomb. He finished the series against Vitality with a 1.15 rating and was crucial in both their map wins on Mirage (1.40) and Anubis (1.34).

He did the same in the semi-final against G2, putting up 0.95 KPR on Ancient and 24 kills in a 16-14 win on Nuke to secure FaZe's second Major grand final of the year.

broky describes the two lost Major finals as the "worst moments of the year"

In the end, donk's Spirit proved too strong despite FaZe's feisty performance. broky put up a 0.99 rating and 76 ADR in the final and was FaZe's third-highest-rated player, which put his playoff average at an excellent 1.11.

"I believed that we could win the Shanghai Major ever since we ended in second place at the Copenhagen Major," broky says. "We just needed to peak at the right time and have some FaZe magic. Coming closer to the Shanghai Major, we knew that we only had first-place finishes in China since CS2 came out, so we would keep saying that we have the buff in China.

"Looking back at the event, I don't think anyone would be happy ending second after the run we had in the playoffs, especially since we couldn't beat a top 5 team for like half a year," he laments.

"Being in two Major finals and not winning either of them was definitely the worst moment of the year for sure."

Why was broky the 8th best player of 2024?

broky lands in the eighth spot after displaying incredible peak form in 2024.

In a blistering start to the year, he earned four consecutive awards as an Exceptionally Valuable Player in FaZe’s runs to the grand final at IEM Katowice and at PGL Major Copenhagen (two Super-Elite events), the Most Valuable Player in their sole victory at IEM Chengdu, and an EVP in their quarter-finals finish at ESL Pro League Season 19.

Though he slowed down in the second half, he went on to add another EVP to his tally as FaZe’s leading man in their semi-finals campaign at BLAST Premier Fall Final, ending the year with a list of individual accolades that could have been worthy of an even higher finish on the ranking.

He earned these awards as a standout player under pressure, putting up a 1.11 rating in the arenas (8th), 1.09 in big matches (8th), and 1.12 under threat of elimination (9th). And although he was often scoffed at for inconsistency, his 84.1% maps rated above 0.85 show he rarely disappeared entirely, as does the fact that he only dipped below the 1.00 event rating at the end of the year.

But while his lows were not very low, they were plentiful. After making a case for his best-ever finish in the first half of the year, perhaps as high as fourth before the summer break, his drop-off in the second half caused his numbers to tank. That is shown in his joint-lowest overall rating in the top 20 (1.09), in the share of map peaks (lowest in the percentage of maps rated above 1.00, 1.15 and 1.30), as well as his Impact (0.99).

Bold prediction by 1xBet

broky chose NAVI Junior's Drin "⁠makazze⁠" Shaqiri as his Bold prediction. The Kosovar rifler got his breakthrough while playing in the lower reaches of the online scene, where he helped the academy outfit claim six titles in 2024.

The 18-year-old averaged a 1.19 rating across the year and strung together 17 consecutive maps with a 1+ rating during NAVI Junior's eight-match winning streak in September.


Stay tuned to our Top 20 Players of 2024 ranking and take a look at the Introduction article to learn more about how the players were selected.

Latvia Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1131
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.61
Kosovo Drin 'makazze' Shaqiri
Drin 'makazze' Shaqiri
Age:
18
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
232
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.72
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1807
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1560
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
34
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
2443
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.69
Russia Danil 'donk' Kryshkovets
Danil 'donk' Kryshkovets
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.22
Maps played:
514
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.67
Finland Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Age:
27
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1388
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.65
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1372
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
#1
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Finland ||||
midky
2025-01-06 20:00
412
12 replies
HLTV studio: Latvian Baby Driver Or How To Steal 8th place
2025-01-06 20:00
99
1 reply
midky top 8
2025-01-06 20:03
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#36
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
Twistzz | 
Canada knifa
how is he 8
2025-01-06 20:01
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#43
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Finland ||||
didn't even pick kyousuke
2025-01-06 20:01
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couldn't have said it any better
2025-01-06 20:10
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#89
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Russia formaldehyde
HLTV take this L. Respectfully
2025-01-06 20:12
32
Bro shouldn’t even be top 20
2025-01-06 20:19
48
2 replies
delusion
2025-01-06 21:52
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#193
Faceit level 7  | 
zesty | 
Indonesia Xaphn1x
nah i can see him make like barely making it by pure team results but 8th is some criminal shit
2025-01-07 00:35
3
BIGGEST ROBBERY OF THE CENTURY
2025-01-06 20:33
13
"0.90 flashbangs thrown per round (#5)"
2025-01-06 21:00
21
midky indeed
2025-01-06 21:13
0
deserved for GOATKY. Let the haters cry.
2025-01-06 20:00
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1 reply
Ofc deserved , could've been even higher if it wasnt for ropz holding him back
2025-01-06 20:31
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This year's top20 is the worst so far holy moly
2025-01-06 20:00
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10 replies
Top 3 will save it (zywoo,monesy,donk)
2025-01-06 20:01
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9 replies
at this rate nexa will be #1 with apEX and #2
2025-01-06 20:07
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2 replies
#117
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
steel | 
Canada steell
A girl can dream…
2025-01-06 20:26
8
At this rate donk wont even be top 2 in some weirdo twist.
2025-01-07 10:45
1
Honestly I doubt it will save it, I fully expect the ZywOo glazing and giving him top2, even though m0nesy really does deserves top2
2025-01-06 20:08
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5 replies
Damn. Lets just hope monesy #2
2025-01-06 20:08
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zywoo is 2 to confirm his streak, there is no chance hltv would break it this year
2025-01-06 20:13
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You're literally delusional if u think zywoo deserves any lower than #1, his consistency beats all of m0nesy and donk's highs, their lows were just too bad, donk't could even have 70% of his events with positive rating against good teams, let alone deserve be player of the year
2025-01-07 04:28
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0/8
2025-01-07 11:40
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4/8 I think donk will take #1 this year, due to his incredible peaks. ZywOo was the most consistent player of the year and while he doesn't have many trophies this year, that is mainly down to the face that half the time his team was griefing him, so I guess he deserves the number one spot. I think donk does too though, being this young and unexperienced and go into all of these tier one events so relaxed und slap the best guys in the game like he did is really remarkable. Honestly this is the first TOP 20 since I've been following CS, where the number one spot is acutally a real fight and not just ZywOo or s1mple doing it convincingly.
2025-01-08 00:32
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Deserved
2025-01-06 20:00
4
#5
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Finland FlaMax_CSGO
Finally
2025-01-06 20:00
1
#6
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil mth^
gz
2025-01-06 20:00
0
Kekw
2025-01-06 20:00
13
#8
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India Inferrrn0
No
2025-01-06 20:00
8
#9
donk | 
Sweden bublz_
deserved
2025-01-06 20:00
7
fraud
2025-01-06 20:00
35
expected
2025-01-06 20:00
2
#12
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Ukraine d3adLY
Too high, undeserved
2025-01-06 20:00
158
2 replies
idk why hltv decided to make broky t8 lol. imho kscerato is much better 4 this place
2025-01-06 20:17
2
1 reply
fraudria suck hard, no way for their players get this high
2025-01-06 23:20
8
Midky
2025-01-06 20:00
7
No shot
2025-01-06 20:00
1
#15
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United States Virgin Islands StancaXD
LOL
2025-01-06 20:00
1
Hello everyone I've been following TOP20 HLTV since 2014 and roughly understand how it works. What am I talking about? Every year it is almost impossible to CORRECTLY identify the places of players from 20 to 10, since the administrators of this portal are often guided not by the real statistics of players and their individual awards, but by their subjective opinion. But what I see now is that HLTV has introduced a system where absolutely every user can view the results of others live, and currently 8 users have 56/65 points at once — these are 10 absolutely correct peaks, 2 close ones (Jimpphat & iM swapped places) and 1 absolutely incorrect one (20th place). But what's more interesting is that all these 8 dudes have exactly the same TOP20 (except for 20th place). I decided to look at their profiles: 1) fellouuuot — an absolute fake, the registration date is December 25 2024 (the last day when it was possible to make a prediction); 2) MedveDb — fake; 3) Zuce24 — fake; 4) yenomaru — fake; 5) xeissen — fake, but the registration date is already December 24 2024 xD; 6) Advnn12 — registration date May 24 2024, 0 comments, interesting character; 7) BayGoodHarbor is the most active user of all. And the most interesting one, but more about him later. Remember, the registration date — March 23 2024; 8) legendaee — absolutely no activity, BUT! The registration date is March 21 2024, which reminds me of something (BayGoodHarbor ???). Now my opinion: I am sure that the person with the nickname BayGoodHarbor received information from someone from the HLTV admins/ through his friends who are connected with the HLTV admins. This is the first time when, with a very high probability, the user will ABSOLUTELY ACCURATELY guess 17/20 places, and two more (Jimpphat & iM) will simply swap places. Why did I decide that? I found this dude's Authorized threads and saw the following: 1) hltv.org/forums/threads/2962500/hltv-top.. — he was looking for bookmakers where he could get into the TOP20; 2) hltv.org/forums/threads/2962674/ggbet-wi.. — he is trying to find out if they will withdraw money to him for a bet of 1-2 thousand $. The dude decided to bet that amount of money on TOP20 xDDD; 3) hltv.org/forums/threads/2962234/top20-ac.. — his TOP for December 20th is a completely different opinion than his final one. In the end, I also want to add that BayGoodHarbor goes through many topics and says that this is his job and these fakes stole the skins from him that he was supposed to win. But I'm 99.9% sure that these are his accounts, and so he decided to insure himself so that he would be more likely to take the skins if someone scored the same number of points. Why did someone decide to steal his prediction and repeat it with fake accounts? :DDD I absolutely don't trust this guy... What is your opinion? Thanks for your attention
2025-01-06 20:00
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51 replies
Good one.
2025-01-06 23:03
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hltv.org/news/40608/top-20-players-of-20.. On the 24th he commented his current picks Hmm another alibi he wants to make perhaps?
2025-01-07 02:12
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5 replies
He talked about how he analyses the TOP20 almost every year. But then why doesn't he know that a year ago HLTV already held a forecast competition and with this comment he could help his competitors... Also, he is such a good analyst but he couldn't use the internet to find a bookmaker. Instead, he creates a topic on HLTV to find it
2025-01-07 09:11
9
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Maybe he is confident enough that no one will copy some random users predictions Plus, even if they did do so his odds at winning the prize will only decrease marginally. Regarding, the bookmaker this kind of thing to bet on might be really specific. IIRC hltv partner 1xbet has a something going on Where you can bet on the awards show categories but maybe not top 20, could be why he's asking around
2025-01-07 10:27
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#286
Faceit level 7  | 
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Poland Broken_BS
Marginally? He went from guaranteed top1 to being tied for top1 with 7 ppl (3/7 chances to get any prize, 1/7 for first)
2025-01-08 14:55
0
1 reply
7/7 chance if you own all 7 accounts
2025-01-08 19:17
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#293
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jkaem | 
Norway GAMBLING_ADDlCT
that makes no sense
2025-01-08 16:56
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#221
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Australia eggdaddy
Damn, let the people know bro
2025-01-07 05:11
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#224
Faceit level 10  | 
cynic | 
Aruba LKWFahrer_300KMH
i agree
2025-01-07 07:47
2
1. Yeah I was looking for bookmakers because its ez money af. Bet365 is the only bookie I use but they dont offer top20 bets anymore so I was looking for alternatives 2. they have 1.40 odds for sh1ro > ropz 3. its because hltv made blasts elite events which changed my opinion about some stuff (specifically flamez getting higher and xantares getting lower because flamez overperformed in blasts and xantares didnt play any blast events) I didnt say they are stealing skins from me, if they get the 1000$ knife from me its gonna make me sad for sure but I wont lose any sleep over it. I talk about it on the forum because its the only place I cant vent about it lmao. And I never said its my job to do this. I only said I am good with numbers because of my major. Edit: And I have nothing to gain from making alts with the same prediction as me since there are like hundreads of thousands of combinations possible and someone having the same list as me is astronomically low. Look at the other top50 contestants, I dont think any of them have identical lists
2025-01-07 11:05
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I'm sorry, man, but I still don't believe you. Especially in the situation with Malbs & Xantares - the same value of individual awards, Xantares statistics are even slightly better, but you guessed perfectly that Malbs would be in 12th place and Xantares in 15th. The difference of 3 places is quite significant + the TOP20-10 stage is extremely difficult to guess. The situation is similar with iM & Jimpphat. According to your logic, iM should be higher because of the individual awards, but you're putting Jimmy higher (miss). But in the case of Broky and B1T, you chose rewards, not statistics (correct pick). Your thread "top20 (actually 30) prediction vol 2 (final)": Elige #20, Nertz #19 — both of them don't have Blast's EVP. But in your final prediction you decided to swap them. And I also can't understand why Nertz instead of Kscerato (1 more EVP even bronze + pay tribute to the Brazilian fan base). If you really didn't have any insider information, then great respect for you. But for now, it's hard for me to believe you :\
2025-01-07 14:15
28
22 replies
Malbs has 2 elite evps so the difference is big, I would say. Ofc you are entilted to your opinion but people who have been active in top20 discussions past few years know me, and normally I dont get this many correct picks (a lot of near misses though)
2025-01-07 14:46
4
21 replies
Why you even care to defend yourself?
2025-01-07 15:56
10
16 replies
#264
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United States PlankCS
because it sucks when conspiracy brained idiots make up random shit. You guys are harassing some dude for having an extremely good prediction so he should have the right to defend himself.
2025-01-08 00:11
6
4 replies
There are questions for him, because: 1) 17 absolutely accurate picks - this is possibly a record for all time of such predictions; 2) some places in his forecast were chosen according to one logic, and some already according to another; 3) where did the 5 accounts created on December 24 and 25 come from, which decided to copy EXACTLY HIS prediction? He registered in 2024, he does not have any regalia in this topic, he did not take prize places in 2022 and 2023. And finally, there are over 100 people here who agree with my OPINION, what right do you have to call them 'conspiracy brained idiots'? You write that 38k people took part in this contest, do you think all these 38k users know how this rating works? Do you think that the probability of exactly repeating 19/20 or even 20/20 picks is high enough, especially for people who joined this community 2 weeks ago? So who among us is an idiot now?
2025-01-08 02:31
17
2 replies
My 5 cents on the theory: comparison to previous lists is tricky because of just how easy access there is to most key data rn - arena/elimination rating and evp/mvp charts making prediction process alot more straightforward. Previously u had to manually check those things which at least for me wasnt even worth bothering. But this years I had my own nerd googlesheet ive spent 2-3 hours on with goal of 90/100 score in mind and tbh if I wasn't biased towards some players it was very much doable. Checking other lists on top50 people did close to same mistakes and if I remember correctly 2023 was nowhere near this close.
2025-01-08 03:25
7
Don't argue with an American, they add and subtract numbers like 3+5, 9-2 in fifth grade school. In our country, children are solving these examples before school age.
2025-01-10 05:27
1
Why we? Dude im just asking.
2025-01-08 08:21
0
Because if you don't put your 2p when it comes to things like these, it looks even more suspicious and to not defend yourself against harassment also comes across as disingenuous. Users have the right to defend themselves, and trust me, when you're in the middle of exposing threads and mundane conspiracy, it's very easy to lose track of yourself.
2025-01-08 00:29
5
8 replies
I dissagree, it looks suspicious if you waste your time to defend yourself. If the guy is legit he knows it so he can laugh his ass off on whatever acusation he gets. Nothing will come from this.
2025-01-08 08:23
5
7 replies
Bro he can‘t do anything right XD just stop crying
2025-01-08 13:54
1
3 replies
Its called being astonished not crying. There is more words in english vocabulary than couple childlish catch phrases.
2025-01-09 09:53
0
2 replies
You are whatabouthing. „I dissagree, it looks suspicious if you waste your time to defend yourself„ Cry is free
2025-01-09 17:41
1
1 reply
I have no idea what are you on about so i will answer using your own childlish style: Cry is free" is one constantly used sentence to users who are complaining about something. But what most don't know, is that this sentence is actually a huge lie. As far as we know, tears consist of water and 0,9 gram salt per liter. And both of these ingredients are not free. Here is listed the price for 10 liter tears for the countries of the G8. Then this formula was used (price is in US Dollar): (Price 100 gram salt/100)x9 + (Price 1 cubic liter water/100) = Price for 10 Liter Tears France: 0,20 $ Italy: 0,17 $ Germany: 0,19 $ United Kingdom: 0,22 $ USA: 0,18 $ Canada: 0,18 $ Japan: 0,18 $ Russia: 0,16 $
2025-01-09 17:57
0
I'm almost certain that if he didn't defend himself at all you'd be saying the exact opposite right now lmao
2025-01-08 15:14
2
2 replies
You are wrong then.
2025-01-09 09:50
0
Exactly ahaha they will just have their formed opinion and use everything towards their favour instead of using their brain. Typical Gen Z+ brainrots
2025-01-09 17:42
0
because its entertaining?
2025-01-08 07:05
2
1 reply
Well i guess i did not think about that.
2025-01-08 08:24
2
#282
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Ukraine ujyn
"...people who have been active in top20 discussions past few years know me..." Signed up 2024-03-23 yeah shure...what a story mark. if you are lying at least make shure all the things come together
2025-01-08 13:49
4
3 replies
The user made predictions in 2022 and 2023 in the older account is what the user is referring to here.
2025-01-08 16:26
0
2 replies
#302
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Ukraine ujyn
ok, reported for alt accounts then, like it's not enough things to report him yet
2025-01-09 15:19
1
1 reply
The user also stated that Reddit and other websites were the other source of predictions, too. On HLTV, it's just assumed alternate accounts, friend.
2025-01-09 15:55
0
1xbet odds: m0nesy > zywoo 1.88 zywoo > m0nesy 1.82 jl>niko 2.30 niko>jl 1.55 Anchor of the year: Jimpphat 1.59 B1t 3.08 Zont1x 7.7 AWPer of the year: M0nesy 1.23 Zywoo 5.78 Sh1ro 10.2 Closer of the year: jL 1.54 B1t 4.62 Jimpphat 4.62 Coach of the year: B1ad3 1.15 Hally 8.4 Sycrone 10.2 Overdrive 95 |(i think they added this to scam some people by betting on this) Ohnepixel 95 | Highlight of the year: Donk 1v5 1.32 Jl ancient ace 6.16 Niko deagle ace 6.16 Opener of the year: Donk 1.15 NiKo 4.62 Elige 11.5
2025-01-07 16:11
2
1 reply
HOLY SHOT WHY DIDNT I KNOW THIS THAT WOULDVE BEEN EZ BUCKS
2025-01-08 13:55
0
#295
Faceit level 10  | 
s1mple | 
Bhutan testingTheories
"And I have nothing to gain from making alts with the same prediction as me since there are like hundreads of thousands of combinations possible and someone having the same list as me is astronomically low". First you say you are good with numbers, then you make this meaningless statement. Why would you be good at numbers if you don't understand the logic of increasing your chances of winning a prize if someone else has the same number of points? The same number of points doesn't mean the same list! What is your major, arithmetics?
2025-01-08 17:41
0
3 replies
if im gonna make alts, i'd be using slightly different lists to increase my chances, not make the same multiple times when I make the list I do it with the goal of winning it rather than drawing with other people, so mentality issue on your end, really
2025-01-08 17:53
0
2 replies
#297
Faceit level 10  | 
s1mple | 
Bhutan testingTheories
you are not good at math, are you?
2025-01-08 18:14
0
1 reply
Of course he's not good at math, he's just an American where they add up the numbers 5 + 2 in fifth grade.
2025-01-10 05:34
0
I have to save this, gj man
2025-01-07 18:47
0
#263
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United States Hiro26
i think so too. the only thing that doesn't quite make sense to me is the reason why he would create multiple accounts for the same prediction?
2025-01-07 22:59
3
4 replies
multiple possibilities. Most likely would be he isn't the only one the top 20 got leaked to. Two other people make 3 accounts each to try to get all three prizes. I don't know if anything like that happened but it's very sus.
2025-01-08 01:05
5
3 replies
You're right
2025-01-08 01:09
2
2 replies
idk if legendaee and BayGoodHabor are the same person but if they are, there's a good chance they've logged in from the same ip which hltv can easily track. I dunno how long hltv keep ip logs for though.
2025-01-08 02:10
3
1 reply
hltv.org/forums/threads/2965507/top-20-l.. his reply if anyone is interested
2025-01-08 08:19
0
Smartest zetnik
2025-01-08 14:15
1
Thanks bro... This was much required 👍
2025-01-08 15:12
0
Or they coyld just spam whatever probability they got, kinda like prediction aboht the queens death?
2025-01-08 15:14
0
Excellent post
2025-01-08 15:53
0
#294
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
Samppa | 
Finland Smauli
good job bro and respect. I've been wondering that something must have been of with top 20 quessers because of the similarity of top quessers etc. Glad to notice that some people did a really good research!
2025-01-08 17:36
1
#299
Faceit level 8  | 
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Romania Adrivnn12
hello man i am surprised that u think i am linked with this guys but i can let u know that i don t have a thing with this guys i never met them online/offline and i don t know anyone inside the hltv top 20 and if u readed that rules from top 20 hltv u would see that the organizers and ppl from hltv can t speak and play in the top 20 as well it just happenned strangely to be fair to have the same picks as u see one of doesn t have the same guy on top 20,to be fair i thought sum was up as well but it seems like they just thinked the same if they winn gg for them i m glad i made it this far
2025-01-08 20:01
2
#18
Faceit level 10  | 
Ziz | 
Croatia styxxje
only 10 spots too high! so close hltv
2025-01-06 20:00
38
deserved for GOAT baltic player
2025-01-06 20:01
6
8 replies
pretty sure ropz is from estonia
2025-01-06 21:05
3
7 replies
You know Estonia is Baltic right?
2025-01-06 21:39
0
1 reply
I didn't. Thanks for enlightening me
2025-01-06 23:08
0
broky clears ropz already washed had to join zywoo to stay relevant
2025-01-06 21:50
2
4 replies
His peak clears broky tho
2025-01-06 23:08
1
3 replies
broky didnt peak yet
2025-01-06 23:13
5
2 replies
You never know, he could be the Ben Simmons of CS
2025-01-07 14:38
0
1 reply
#281
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Belgium Ringling
no way you just did broky dirty like that xd
2025-01-08 13:30
0
let's go
2025-01-06 20:00
3
congratz!
2025-01-06 20:00
3
#23
Faceit level 9  | 
sjokz | 
Poland Tony12PL
Wow so unexpected , now FlameZ on 7 hehe
2025-01-06 20:00
0
so damn overrated
2025-01-06 20:00
32
daylight robbery
2025-01-06 20:01
29
#26
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Germany Gabbah
lol
2025-01-06 20:00
1
#27
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Denmark kiwiee
my ass
2025-01-06 20:00
3
#28
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Germany ara137
b1t robbed
2025-01-06 20:01
36
LMAOOOOO
2025-01-06 20:01
5
buh
2025-01-06 20:01
1
#32
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France ikv
Haters in shambles
2025-01-06 20:01
5
br0.99ky over b1t, joke??
2025-01-06 20:01
59
#34
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United States ddown
should be higher
2025-01-06 20:01
2
1.09 rating top 8 alright bro and nertz isnt even gonna make it
2025-01-06 20:01
47
4 replies
#144
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Poland Hellp3r
Thats just ridiculous. I know they like to look at trophies, but cmon, i feel like nertz is easily better than most of people in this ranking
2025-01-06 21:03
10
3 replies
#163
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United States Jordan_
100%. Nertz clears alot of these guys by a mile.
2025-01-06 21:41
5
fr bro
2025-01-06 22:15
1
regarding achievements i cannot see broky over a lot of people on the list
2025-01-07 09:33
0
meh
2025-01-06 20:01
1
So high, overrated
2025-01-06 20:01
6
I am a FaZe fan but wtf
2025-01-06 20:01
8
Bald aura
2025-01-06 20:01
2
#41
gabs | 
Romania cala07
fraud iem chengdu farmer
2025-01-06 20:01
10
#42
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Czech Republic Will_X
2025-01-06 20:01
1
#44
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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World streetson
what a joke
2025-01-06 20:02
4
LOL EXPECTED
2025-01-06 20:02
1
#46
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Canada Cloutless
Lmao glad u can be top 10 off 3 months of elite play
2025-01-06 20:07
8
5 replies
#76
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Canada Cloutless
“Flashbangs thrown per round” as a stat cmon man
2025-01-06 20:08
41
it was a solid 7 months but he shouldnt have been this high
2025-01-06 20:14
1
3 replies
#112
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Canada Cloutless
From may 1st to the end of the year broky isnt even top 30 in big event rating…
2025-01-06 20:20
5
2 replies
hltv.org/stats/players/events/18053/brok.. his downfall only really began after EWC/Fall groups(if you give dont give a shit about that mickey mouse event lol)
2025-01-06 20:30
5
He had a sub 1 impact for the entire year ffs
2025-01-06 22:55
0
#47
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
#8 with 1,09 rating aintnoway 💀
2025-01-06 20:02
27
1 reply
also your name <1
2025-01-06 20:04
8
What the actual fuck
2025-01-06 20:02
7
stop smoking CRACK bro
2025-01-06 20:02
8
0.99 impact, top 8 for sure
2025-01-06 20:02
13
#51
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Sweden Vrede
joke top 8... should be above ropz like top 17
2025-01-06 20:02
8
0.99 IMPACT 1.09 RATING IS DIABOLICAL
2025-01-06 20:03
26
3 replies
With 1 mvp and 4 evp
2025-01-06 21:14
2
2 replies
also mostly fraudulent, attained by happening to be the awper on a top 5 team. I don't even like badmouthing broky, he's a decent player with some sick clutches, there's nothing to hate. but he should not be in the top 10 this year, probably not the top 20 either. it's just awper bonus + top team bonus.
2025-01-06 23:49
5
1 reply
#247
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
Sweden DiTzZ
Spot on.
2025-01-07 12:22
0
We require an official apology from hltv for this incident
2025-01-06 20:03
19
#55
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden svempa
Well played broky!
2025-01-06 20:03
0
#56
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Poland madret
lol definitely not deserved
2025-01-06 20:03
2
#57
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Roo | 
United States Gyhjams
didnt even make my top 20
2025-01-06 20:04
10
3 replies
#65
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
Barely mine, this is insane by any means. Someone wrote few days back that this award loses credibility.... I would add: BIG TIME
2025-01-06 20:05
17
You don’t understand cs then
2025-01-06 21:14
3
1 reply
#261
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Roo | 
United States Gyhjams
Broky was the issue in faze for the second half of the year. Zero impact while holding the most expensive gun is laughable.
2025-01-07 17:37
0
ctrl+f LatvianLoser phrase not found @LatvianLoser what happen botky top8 in the world meanwhile you a latvian loser
2025-01-06 20:04
4
1 reply
believe it or not but I do have a job
2025-01-07 05:35
3
MY GOAT BROKY #8 , ABSOLUTE CINEMA
2025-01-06 20:04
2
Ahhhh hell no, this shit is rigged, botky dont deserve this
2025-01-06 20:04
18
#62
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Turkey Orion1d
excuse me but wtf
2025-01-06 20:05
7
#63
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Romania wadd
that is crazy
2025-01-06 20:05
4
undeserved
2025-01-06 20:05
3
B1t robbed
2025-01-06 20:05
9
Flu-ky
2025-01-06 20:05
4
What a joke
2025-01-06 20:06
3
midky haters going crazy
2025-01-06 20:06
2
1 reply
I am goatky fan and I am going crazy he isnt 7th
2025-01-06 20:28
0
this year top20 is so bad inb4 donk top1 aswell
2025-01-06 20:06
3
1 reply
pywoo top3, everything is fair
2025-01-07 03:09
0
@LatvianLoser punching air right now
2025-01-06 20:06
1
under average impact + 1.09 rating for sniper. Top 8 100% deserved
2025-01-06 20:06
4
bros really just posted the 0.99 impact and 1.09 rating pic and said he's a #9 player lmao.
2025-01-06 20:07
10
BOTKYYY
2025-01-06 20:07
1
#77
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Canada minibeech
exact same stats, impact and results as torzsi who is 20th. Next on HLTV Confirmed: they confirm they know nothing about CS and watch it even less. Who's going to be 7th? yekindar? Also the top 8 accounts in this are clearly HLTV employee alts. They've gotten every single one correct minus a couple near misses. which they probably just switched a couple around to seem less obvious.(BTW it's super obvious)
2025-01-06 20:12
14
3 replies
#174
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
m0NESY | 
Canada max07
was mouz in any elite event finals?
2025-01-06 22:45
2
How many super elite evps torzsi had?
2025-01-07 00:49
1
2025-01-07 11:02
0
Even with a shit year he smokes these other tryhard kids. But you do need to step it up broky. Give us proper legacy 2022 goatky.
2025-01-06 20:08
10
#81
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HeavyGod | 
Latvia Dhu
GOAT <3
2025-01-06 20:09
0
I thought trolling was not allowed on Jonathan e secured servers
2025-01-06 20:09
1
how the hell this b0t is top8 this year? HLTV top20 look more rigged than 500 vs Sinners matchup
2025-01-06 20:10
9
too high sorry
2025-01-06 20:10
4
This year the top 20 is mad I think should re visit how their stats works because everything makes no sense
2025-01-06 20:11
8
Ropz got robbed for real
2025-01-06 20:11
3
#91
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France Strayke
Goayky
2025-01-06 20:13
0
Desrved
2025-01-06 20:13
2
#93
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Romania timy7
incredible. what a joke
2025-01-06 20:13
6
GOATKY
2025-01-06 20:13
2
#97
PR | 
Czech Republic icka
deserved ez
2025-01-06 20:14
1
avg 1 rating awper is like 0.8rating rifler
2025-01-06 20:14
9
0/8 not even top 15
2025-01-06 20:14
2
This is actually diabolical, rigged harder than Scott Foster in the playoffs
2025-01-06 20:14
0
#102
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Poland Avrab
ROBBED
2025-01-06 20:16
1
#103
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Poland BAN_ANIME
hltv in shambles
2025-01-06 20:17
0
0.99 impact,this has to be a joke
2025-01-06 20:18
2
#105
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Germany some_dude
anyone can say how this makes any sense? malbs for example has way better stats overall like wtf
2025-01-06 20:18
0
#107
donk | 
World dsa__
Karrigan is 1st. Check HLTV
2025-01-06 20:19
2
#108
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
Samppa | 
Finland Smauli
poor b1t robbed
2025-01-06 20:19
8
What the actual f*ck are these rankings? Bubzkji is #1 of 2024 confirm
2025-01-06 20:20
4
1 reply
dupreeh to analyst desk bubzkij to falcons
2025-01-06 23:45
0
#111
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
Latvia hollowlife
had to be in top3.. ONLY 8th??? naaaa, HLTV sleeping
2025-01-06 20:20
0
Should have been higher
2025-01-06 20:20
0
this is just blatently inccorect and disrespesctful to community
2025-01-06 20:22
6
#115
Faceit level 8  | 
DZ | 
Algeria SilverQuick
Overrated
2025-01-06 20:22
1
loooool jajajajaja no way
2025-01-06 20:23
0
#118
Faceit level 10  | 
siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
ngl should be top1 at this point
2025-01-06 20:26
1
hes good player deserved
2025-01-06 20:29
1
#123
Faceit level 10  | 
XigN | 
United States LiVitShiro
How is this guy even in the top 20 let alone #8
2025-01-06 20:30
4
0.99 impact top 8 KEKW
2025-01-06 20:31
8
#127
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden aN0x-
awper with 1.09 and 0.99 impact rating and still gets 8# what a joke
2025-01-06 20:33
9
LULW
2025-01-06 20:34
2
Let's all cry hahaha
2025-01-06 20:35
0
ROBBED. TOP 6 MINIMUM
2025-01-06 20:35
0
are we being serious
2025-01-06 20:36
3
What a joke
2025-01-06 20:38
4
stats don't determine how good he is. He is just doing weird shit sometimes xD
2025-01-06 20:38
2
1 reply
exact same stuff that won him crazy clutches, if it works then it just looks like he's prime kennyS, if it doesn't then he looks like acor
2025-01-06 20:49
4
0 cs knowledge
2025-01-06 20:39
3
#135
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United States blargCS
top 20 sure but top 10??? 8th is crazy
2025-01-06 20:47
5
undeserved.
2025-01-06 20:51
5
1 reply
yeah shoulda been top 5 frfr
2025-01-06 21:00
0
#138
b1t | 
United States Framed
😐ok
2025-01-06 20:56
0
what...
2025-01-06 21:00
0
shoulda been higher but whatever
2025-01-06 21:00
0
over b1t is crazy lol
2025-01-06 21:03
5
It’s no surprise that so many people correctly guessed most of the list and even predicted Broky at 8th place, because this is clearly a rigged list with obvious leaks. None of the top-ranked players have participated in a single Fantasy game, yet they suddenly show up exclusively for this competition. Stop mocking the community. On top of that, you delay sending prizes, like €30 skins, for months or sometimes don’t send them at all
2025-01-06 21:06
6
4 replies
2025-01-07 00:47
1
3 replies
I'm sure a few others like you have written 'broky' as well, but unfortunately, you didn't understand what I was trying to say
2025-01-07 00:59
0
2 replies
I know the top 10 contains fake accounts and should be banned
2025-01-07 01:03
0
1 reply
I have never said this about any match so far and I don't like saying it but it's very clear that there are leaks in these qualifiers this is not anyone else's fault; it's solely HLTV.org's fault
2025-01-07 09:56
0
#147
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Spain Fabiotd
Deserved
2025-01-06 21:07
1
3 faze players in top20 lmao
2025-01-06 21:07
0
A better order would be #8 b1t #9 broky #10 frozen
2025-01-06 21:09
1
What were you expecting? People really thought Broky doesn't make top 20 and Nertz or Zont1x are nr 8 lmao.
2025-01-06 21:10
0
0.99 1.09 top8 i cant
2025-01-06 21:12
5
#155
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United States Crylor
This has to be an elaborate joke. What in the world?? Hltv shouldn't ever do rankings if this is what's gonna happen
2025-01-06 21:17
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worst top8 player in cs history
2025-01-06 21:18
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Mad?
2025-01-06 21:48
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b1t robbed
2025-01-06 21:25
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GOAT well deserved
2025-01-06 21:32
0
lmao unbelievable
2025-01-06 21:35
3
Chengdu mvp and 0.9 flashbangs thrown per round, deserved
2025-01-06 21:36
1
godky lives rent free
2025-01-06 21:37
0
Choky
2025-01-06 21:49
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lmao absolutely wild Midky got 8th...and its even more wild that there are actually Faze/Midky stans who think its deserved. HLTV admins clearly are clueless at this point, or are just voting using their own subjective bias.
2025-01-06 22:03
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#170
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Belarus Starvoid
too high
2025-01-06 22:15
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wayyyy too high this year, hltv is clueless
2025-01-06 22:24
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You are baiting for comments, there no way botky is top8
2025-01-06 22:38
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Waiting jL top 1 according to this pick
2025-01-06 22:59
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deserved max 12
2025-01-06 23:10
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#184
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United States zephh1337
Am I going insane? I haven't even put broky in my Top 20 list and I'm a FaZe fan.
2025-01-06 23:20
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Look at evps and mvp then ask yourself if you know how hltv top 20 works.
2025-01-07 00:46
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#243
Faceit level 8  | 
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Poland akrobata
Those who watched cs whole year know that he was fkin disappointing whole year and he don’t even deserve place in top20 but they say it was actually peak form so #8
2025-01-07 11:38
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That EVP for a 1.07 rating at Katowice is really shady. And I think without that broky would have been more like a 13 or 14 where he belongs.
2025-01-06 23:23
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W0nderful got evp at cph major with 1.10 rating (1.06 rating 2.1) Edit: on rating 2.0 broky had a 1.16 ct side rating (1.14 now) and 1.05 t side rating (1.01 now) so I think he had 1.09 - 1.10 when he got the evp, same as wonderfool
2025-01-07 00:46
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Okay so Broky is 8th. According to his rank I’ll guess Syrson is rank 7th.
2025-01-06 23:26
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Broky haters in shambles lmao, love to see it
2025-01-06 23:28
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best stat: surviving worst stat: impact nah, I've seen enough. he doesn't deserve top 20.
2025-01-06 23:41
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seems to me faze/karrigan is the only team that needs 4x top20 players (past years) to get anywhere....... and as rain couldn't put up good numbers this year, quite naturally they didn't go as far. all skill, no brain.
2025-01-06 23:43
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I clicked on an article just to see if you included his now iconic double flip to Liquid. Respect
2025-01-06 23:46
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#194
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United States YARG
guess i can be a top 20 player, tf is this guy doing in 8th?
2025-01-07 00:39
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#212
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Canada ssau
Yea you’re probably in the top 20 I would say. Which team do you play for? I believe you but I just want to confirm
2025-01-07 02:47
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I ain't reading all that, this is a joke
2025-01-07 00:40
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#197
Faceit level 8  | 
Serbia Thelord97
xd what a joke
2025-01-07 00:42
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poloolpp vindicated
2025-01-07 00:44
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Expected top 10. You guys really dont know how top 20 works. EVPs and MVP are like 70% of this.
2025-01-07 00:44
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who?
2025-01-07 00:58
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Someone must be forgot to put "1" in front of "8"
2025-01-07 01:28
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Had top 10 max but like sure
2025-01-07 01:40
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How on earth can broky even higher than wonderful lmfao are you joking HLTV???
2025-01-07 02:29
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#210
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Latvia xzibalof
I don`t see 20 players with mvp and a stable performance all year so well deserved!
2025-01-07 02:36
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respect iem tiananmen square 1989 mvp
2025-01-07 02:37
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HLTV putting the most FRAUDULENT top 20 of the history of cs this year, putting maldtares in top 15 and botky in top 8, and fucking torzsi out of all people in 20th, WHERE IS MY BOY NERTZ?
2025-01-07 03:15
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xantares is deserved
2025-01-07 11:37
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1 reply
nah, guys like NertZ is way better than him, and he also didn’t miss a major. i can see him maybe going in 20th place but no higher than that, he's definitely not better than EliGE or ropz.
2025-01-07 16:30
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#215
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GuardiaN | 
Other Darge
Who tf is doing the Top 20 this year? Does he even play CS or is some dude looking at numbers? High floor, flashbangs, wtf are these stats?
2025-01-07 03:32
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Imo a bit too high, but gz anyways!
2025-01-07 03:42
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#217
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India pquest10
hltv loves to put awpers high hahaha
2025-01-07 03:48
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absolutely diabolical
2025-01-07 04:20
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#219
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Sweden multib
Broky melts the minds of hltv again and leaves them in shambles. Classic godky stuff
2025-01-07 04:27
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#223
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Turkey bafra
overrated
2025-01-07 07:36
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1 reply
#227
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Latvia AnywayWho
ef*
2025-01-07 08:31
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#225
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Other asbi
kyousuke
2025-01-07 08:19
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#226
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Latvia AnywayWho
2025-01-07 08:30
1
Just picture this right, he has a rating, impact and KPR bellow what he had last year, less tournament wins and he still ranks higher. Go figure, HLTV needs to get their head out of the gutter. Just wait to see JL above Niko.
2025-01-07 09:08
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wow
2025-01-07 09:41
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#233
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
Jimpphat | 
Finland Epppz
how top 8?!?!?
2025-01-07 09:43
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#234
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mzinho | 
Mongolia coppin
w0nderful #11 btw
2025-01-07 09:44
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Should be #17 to #20
2025-01-07 10:36
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#241
Faceit level 8  | 
PR | 
Poland akrobata
broky lands in the eighth spot after displaying incredible peak form in 2024. Kekw
2025-01-07 11:27
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#245
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
Sweden DiTzZ
THERE IS NO WAAAAY x'D This is the weirdest, most undeserving entry of them all, holy shit. Broky has not even been a top 20 player this year!
2025-01-07 12:02
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What a joke, where's the first mongol player ?
2025-01-07 12:09
1
whos doing these rankings this is peak comedy
2025-01-07 13:26
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xDDDDDD wtf
2025-01-07 14:32
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Follow this metric I can presume NAF-FLY top 1 and Apex top 2?
2025-01-07 14:54
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what kills me with broky is that i don't feel like he is that good. Whenever i watch faze matches i feel like is awping is not that amazing. But then he gets top 8 so i'm asking myself: am i just too bad at the game to have an semi-objective opinion? what are others seeing that i'm not?
2025-01-07 14:54
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#260
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Europe richwilde
Did they randomize the top 20..
2025-01-07 16:37
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Broke so overrated. Horribly overrated. I'd rather have washed device or chrisj than broky. #8 with a 1.0x rating. Lol!
2025-01-08 01:00
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wow, cs scene is really that weak if broky is number 8.
2025-01-08 01:02
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