valens found using coach bug when on Cloud9; version with free roam revealed

The now-retired coach was found to be in the bugged spectator state on three maps during his time with Cloud9.

Soham "⁠valens⁠" Chowdhury, former coach of Cloud9 and current Head of Data Science at Evil Geniuses, has been found to have used the coaching bug on three occasions in online maps played multiple years ago, Dexerto has revealed.

Two of the instances are similar in nature to other offenses by coaches who have been banned, with valens seen spectating static areas on Inferno and Train. In both examples, he can be seen moving his mouse to follow and track players visible from where the spectator camera is positioned.

On the former map, he had a view of the B site for three rounds during an EPICENTER closed qualifier series against Liquid, while on the latter, he was in the bugged state for the opening pistol round with a view of OpTic's T spawn in ESL Pro League Season 7 North America.

valens was found to be using the coach bug on three separate occasions

However, the most surprising reveal is in a never-before seen version of the bug, in which valens is able to roam with a free-spectator camera while the round was live on Mirage in the same EPICENTER series against Liquid.

According to Dexerto, he first entered the state before the game went live, but was taken out of it following the restart of the round to kick off the match. He re-entered the state three rounds into the map after reconnecting to the server, and only remained in it for one round.

In a statement to same publication, valens explained that he came across the bug several times without an understanding of what it was, and stressed that no information was shared with the team. He also added that he thought it was simply a bug that would go away, and contacted the TO mid-game on at least one occasion.

"It was quite possible I was just waiting for it to reset since most weird glitches in-game kind of just went away after pressing some keys, like the weird height bug where your model can see over things until you crouch or press jump," he said.

“I definitely don’t know how it came to be and I didn’t seek it out in any way. I hope the lack of a pattern in getting to that game state is self-explanatory of my intent.”

Michal Slowinski, the veteran referee and tournament admin who played a key role in uncovering the scandal and helped to analyze demos for the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC), has since commented that the free roam version of the bug was also a part of his investigation, and that the instances of valens using the bug were provided to ESIC.

However, the now-retired coach was not among the 37 coaches banned by ESIC in 2020 after the bug was first revealed to the general public, with news of its widespread abuse rocking the Counter-Strike world for months as more and more names began to surface of coaches who had abused the bug both in years past and during the online era.

The esports watchdog group stated in an August 2021 update that it was reviewing its sanctions matrix following the outcome of a number of appeals from coaches banned following the first report.

A second, unannounced batch of cases is also still being reviewed, with ESIC telling Dexerto that they are concluding discussions with Valve about the application of their sanction mechanics in relation to bans from Valve-sponsored events before revealing their findings.

Valve, meanwhile, informed Dexerto that their method for determining bans from the original one they had posted hadn't changed, and that there were no plans to update it.

United States Soham 'valens' Chowdhury
Soham 'valens' Chowdhury
Age:
32
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Rating 1.0:
0.74
Maps played:
251
KPR:
0.50
DPR:
0.72
#2
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North America Shehp
WHAT
2022-02-09 20:35
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#100
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Finland Kashmiir
"i don't know what was happening" yeah, stop the bs.
2022-02-09 21:29
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#187
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United States daedae11
Dood, it happened 3 times during his whole career. When you spec that many games in the cs:go client you're going to come across bugs, The issue lies if he replicate the glitch in other matches.
2022-02-10 03:03
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CLARA!
2022-02-10 09:21
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2 replies
xaxaxaxaxaxxaxaxaxaxaxaxxa
2022-02-10 09:28
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#227
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Finland Kashmiir
hahaha CLARA WTF
2022-02-10 14:57
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expected from na
2022-02-09 20:35
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16 replies
csbets.org/blog/gambit-youngsters-coach-.. The coach is still coaching btw.
2022-02-09 20:52
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#73
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Denmark Danny D3
Yup. Would likely still be the coach of Gambit if he wasn't banned at Valve events. He's their analyst.
2022-02-09 21:02
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11 replies
Assistant coach no ? I mean, ppl were treating heroic as s..., while gambit is basically playing like nothing had happen. Same team, same staff, a switch between coach to assistant
2022-02-09 21:05
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#80
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Denmark Danny D3
Well yeah. He was moved to the analyst role when he got banned, then went back to coaching Gambit last year. He's pretty much only an assistant coach/analyst now because they attended the major.
2022-02-09 21:08
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#126
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United States sletong
Wouldn't it be the same as Robban (FaZe), Ruggah (OG) and Guerri (Furia)? At that time Gambit also were still playing with Supra..
2022-02-09 22:17
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I forgot about supra ! But still, ppl act like nothing there, mostly because gambit pr is way better than heroic and they dont have a hunden factor, aka snitch.
2022-02-09 23:28
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the community have in general been hypocritical AF when it came to coach bug abusers. I mean 37 coaches were on that list and more are apparantly missing from it, but only heroic ever heard shit about it despite others abusing it to a much greater extend even in important t1 matches (former navi coaches)
2022-02-09 23:04
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Tbh heroic handled it very poorly though. It doesnt change what really happen on gambit side.
2022-02-09 23:30
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the only thing heroic did wrong in that instance was their weird announcement when hunden came back from his ban period, as if they celebrated him or some shit lmfao. But the hate was 100% singled out at them even before that, mainly due to posts like HLTV framing him as the "main villain" mentioning his name only in the title of the related article and having episodes on their hltv podcast where the main talking point was him while completely leaving out the fact that coaches from teams like gambit, navi, NIP, furia and many more had not only used it themselves, they had even used it to a way greater extend and affected the results in high tier tournaments which was something that was not the case with the 2 maps hunden was found guilty of using it in.
2022-02-10 11:00
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Donno about former nip coach but for the rest of your post +1
2022-02-10 11:09
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I agree hltv put a lot on emphasis on hunden, make it a special topic about him. Hunden was considering to be the next zonic. So, he was more popular in some way. I think the video after hunden accusation was too much. They try to explain in details. Even if it is right, it look like someone who interrogate by the police.
2022-02-10 13:04
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same about faze also hunden drama involves much more
2022-02-09 23:38
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Sure. Don't get me wrong. I don't pity heroic. I'm just saying that they are really on the hot spot. The big difference is when the scandal went public, gambit yougster were nobody and heroic was around top1. Also, hunden was considering to be the next zonic. The guy was a "tad" arrogant too. Hunden snitched his old friends too. It didn't happen with other coaches.
2022-02-10 00:21
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It’s funny because he’s the first one from NA. Look at the entire list of coaches banned from the Hunden wave. Not a single Canadian or American :D
2022-02-09 21:58
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2 replies
+1 and these three maps weren't even during the major lol.
2022-02-09 23:32
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actually true, most are eu/cis
2022-02-10 19:26
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xaxaxaxaxa
2022-02-09 20:35
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Lmao whaaaat
2022-02-09 20:35
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#6
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Luxembourg Aybars1
WHATTTT? Unexpected
2022-02-09 20:35
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#7
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Katniss | 
Korea katniss
americans ...
2022-02-09 20:35
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NA major is trash?
2022-02-09 20:35
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6 replies
If NA is trash bc of valens then SA is the worst of all bc of dead
2022-02-09 21:11
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3 replies
... edit because random reply before I agree it is not worth judging regions like that
2022-02-09 21:21
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1 reply
to salt
2022-02-09 21:54
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#190
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Brazil inv4der
SA>NA CS...
2022-02-10 03:57
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none of the 3 matches were at the major
2022-02-09 21:36
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Bruh
2022-02-09 22:49
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#9
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Europe shitshow
hmm
2022-02-09 20:35
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LUL
2022-02-09 20:36
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who cares
2022-02-09 20:36
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10 replies
I car. This further proves to everyone that no stone was left unturned. So 12 year old toxic hltv users don't have to complain about everything online being invalid past 4 years. Yes I have seen such complains still happen sometimes.
2022-02-09 20:44
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9 replies
Flair checks out
2022-02-09 21:18
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#143
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Brazil Lok72
ESIC did shit job finding guilty coaches, punished wrong ones and there are space for plenty of many others cs crumbles
2022-02-09 23:04
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7 replies
ok
2022-02-09 23:13
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6 replies
They actually did punish coaches who had the bug but didn't share it with their players. Both RobbaN and Zonic are cases of this, giving them a 6 month ESIC ban was unfair where people like hunden actually abused it and got 15 months or whatever
2022-02-10 04:06
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I agree that those who used it most got somewhat too small punishment. However noone can know for sure that Robban for example did not transfer the information. There is no actual way to know for sure. We only know that some people did use it for sure because they admitted doing so.
2022-02-10 16:20
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It was an Astralis Vs Faze game on dust and they lost 16-1, if they had info I'd guess they could pull off a few more rounds wouldn't they? Also for Zonic his team was just popping off at the time on every match so they can't tell for sure if he gave the info during a game or not
2022-02-11 05:22
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Maybe his team didn't want to use the info but he still tried to give it to them? Anything is possible. As for Zonic, that logic would apply to 80% to all coaches who got bans. Only those who have admitted using the bug we can say for sure. But they made a decision to punish everyone who were found in the bug and didn't try to fix it immediately because for most cases it is impossible to know. Literally impossible, for many reasons. I mean, if they would only punish those who can be proven to have used the bug in their advantage, could even zoneR have been punished? Maybe he just liked locking his view to the bug, but never even spoke with his team during matches.
2022-02-11 11:54
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2 replies
Your point makes sense have a nice day
2022-02-11 13:49
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Thanks. Have a nice day also.
2022-02-11 15:44
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India psn46
NA scene kekw. Forsaken Top 1.
2022-02-09 20:36
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FAZE WON A MAJOR
2022-02-09 20:36
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11 replies
+1 This XD
2022-02-09 20:38
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9 replies
#42
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United States thespecht
major is lan, he was standing behind the team LMAO
2022-02-09 20:46
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4 replies
U really took me serious?No way
2022-02-09 20:49
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3 replies
#52
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United States thespecht
i fell for bait mens((
2022-02-09 20:50
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2 replies
Unfortunate :((
2022-02-09 20:59
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#222
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United States 3manu3l
expected from flag
2022-02-10 13:52
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they also used coachnig bug?
2022-02-09 23:39
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3 replies
Yup but not in Boston sounds like Who knows maybe in ELEAGUE North America minor :)))))) cope
2022-02-09 23:53
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Yes faze used the coach bug on a game they lost 16-1. That's what ESIC found RobbaN guilty of.
2022-02-10 04:08
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1 reply
flair
2022-02-10 15:04
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huehuehuehue
2022-02-09 21:22
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#14
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Chile gumrwing
ez for faze i knew it
2022-02-09 20:37
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Andorra hdz`
at least he handled it properly.
2022-02-09 20:37
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3 replies
+1
2022-02-09 20:41
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#90
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Finland Dentrowl
+1
2022-02-09 21:20
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this
2022-02-09 23:11
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Ez major 4 NiKo 4 GuardiaN 4 rain 4 karrigan 4 olofmeister
2022-02-09 20:38
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1 reply
#171
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Canada tasago
nah rematch
2022-02-10 00:25
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give faze their major..
2022-02-09 20:38
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4 replies
Sure. Since it happens online on a different team.
2022-02-09 20:50
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#144
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Brazil Lok72
ok rain
2022-02-09 23:04
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faze also used the coaching bug
2022-02-09 23:39
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#173
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Canada tasago
rematch it
2022-02-10 00:52
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goodluck getting a coaching job ever again in csgo xD
2022-02-09 20:38
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6 replies
it says in article retired coach
2022-02-09 20:49
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5 replies
people i guess never come out of retirement
2022-02-09 21:06
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4 replies
he is a data scientist for eg, not without a job like some other banned coaches.
2022-02-09 21:07
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3 replies
+1, pretty sure he went to Stanford or something and makes a shit ton of money at his current job anyways lol
2022-02-09 21:57
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2 replies
He did go to Stanford, and worked at Tesla before going full time in CS.
2022-02-09 23:42
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1 reply
Valens so good
2022-02-10 01:14
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FIRST
2022-02-09 20:38
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#20
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United States 3manu3l
WTF HOW
2022-02-09 20:38
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lmao
2022-02-09 20:39
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#23
Faceit level 9  | 
Jee | 
Czech Republic LoGaS01
-NA major lmao
2022-02-09 20:39
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#24
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bulgaria AboveYall
FAZE WON A MAJOR
2022-02-09 20:39
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#25
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bangladesh ss^.^
hahahah BIG MAC
2022-02-09 20:39
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guys don't be morons, at the major he was standing behind them so he couldn;t have been using the bug
2022-02-09 20:39
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3 replies
#45
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Argentina Aleeee
No shit captain obvious
2022-02-09 20:47
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2 replies
read the other comments genius
2022-02-09 21:01
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1 reply
#146
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Brazil Lok72
baited af
2022-02-09 23:05
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#27
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Czech Republic imik
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2022-02-09 20:39
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Bro ESIC has been doing this investigation for so long, just get it done already
2022-02-09 20:40
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10 replies
#33
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Finland Khroni
They have been doing the Akuma and NA Matchfixing ones for fucking ages as well ESIC just useless recently, only when match admins do the fucking work for them do they do something
2022-02-09 20:43
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9 replies
aren't we waiting on FBI for the NA match fixing? Or at least they were involved
2022-02-09 21:55
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4 replies
#147
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Finland Khroni
FBI were at a minimum involved but since then we have no clue tf is happening, no bans, no temporary suspensions, no warnings to TOs about suspected players, not a single update at all If the FBI is involved still then it's clearly extremely low fucking priority for them and it could be years until anything comes off it, both in CS and VALORANT I get that ESIC can't transgress on an FBI case but it is a joke how long it has taken and how all these suspected players have basically had 2 years extra time to keep doing shit
2022-02-09 23:05
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3 replies
Come on FBI I don't pay my taxes for nothing :)
2022-02-10 02:46
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2 replies
#201
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Finland Khroni
Dw I heard from FBI head he says he is putting your taxes specifically to good use subverting and undermining developing nations
2022-02-10 06:53
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1 reply
That's the CIA idiot, wrong alphabet Bois
2022-02-10 14:16
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#138
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United Kingdom fal36
Akuma are guilty I can tell you that
2022-02-09 22:58
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Bro Rico, the MDL throw mastermind, is probably a millionaire by now and retired, by the point ESIC does anything most of the players involved to this shit will be in the same case. As far as fbi they can't do anything because there is not solid proof against them, no one is guilty untill proven so
2022-02-10 04:12
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#202
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Finland Khroni
Kinda sad because realistically if they were caught all the fixing mid-investigation would absolutely fuck them up Now they know they are basically going to get away with it they might as well just go harder on it
2022-02-10 06:54
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1 reply
Yea people like marved and shanks just blatantly threw because they knew that they would get away with it and now they are valorant pros
2022-02-10 13:15
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#29
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United Kingdom Theodoooore
Pity
2022-02-09 20:40
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faze robbed
2022-02-09 20:43
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#32
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Canada Juicemoose
Valens was so afraid of Stanislaw that he had to spectator glitch
2022-02-09 20:43
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1 reply
+ 1
2022-02-09 20:44
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#34
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British Virgin Islands ImTrying
coach blamed for valve's incompetency... "guilty until proven innocent" - ESIC this whole thing is a joke
2022-02-09 20:44
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#35
Faceit level 10  | 
ZywOo | 
United States weaboo
LOOOOOL I knew this bot was xiter
2022-02-09 20:44
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ESIC will give finalisation in 2+ years, valens u free to go
2022-02-09 20:44
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just permaban this c.nts
2022-02-09 20:44
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now give faze their major back
2022-02-09 20:45
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#41
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United States Jeebur
He already said he notified TO's about it when it happened
2022-02-09 20:45
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so NA not only fluked a major, it was also cheating lol. I mean, we kinda knew they cheated with the crowd, but this is next level.
2022-02-09 20:47
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5 replies
2/8 better luck on next bait
2022-02-09 20:50
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3/8 some people falling for similar comments, sadly this is too far down the comments section
2022-02-09 21:35
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8/8 bro
2022-02-09 22:24
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5/8 pretty good but kinda obvious when talking about crowd cheating with the danish flag, on the other hand it's a good use of the context to further bait people into arguing
2022-02-10 01:03
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#198
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Bulgaria Bulg1us
3/8
2022-02-10 06:27
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Time to give Faze the trophy?
2022-02-09 20:49
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But he reported it to the TO
2022-02-09 20:51
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#58
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Asia flipflop
Digging more than 5 year old incidents (accidents as per victims), esic is nothing but a worthless shit.
2022-02-09 20:54
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chiter!
2022-02-09 20:55
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Cheaters everywhere
2022-02-09 20:55
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#61
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus
FAZE WIN BOSTON MAJOR??
2022-02-09 20:56
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1 reply
#84
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United States ilkym00th
That was LAN he wasn’t in the server but nt
2022-02-09 21:13
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FaZe won the Boston Major then
2022-02-09 20:57
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6 replies
#65
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Europe Rokiz
yeah he cheated standing behind them all time :D
2022-02-09 20:58
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1 reply
2022-02-09 22:36
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Cope harder
2022-02-09 21:44
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3 replies
No way you took me seriously :/
2022-02-09 22:35
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2 replies
Never know with kids on this site anymore Some kids genuinely believed c9 didn’t deserve to win.
2022-02-09 23:41
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1 reply
That's true
2022-02-10 00:06
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#67
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States Waagz
Oh hell.. lol Here it comes! Cloud 9's major run was cheated!
2022-02-09 20:59
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4 replies
we are going to hear this forever, unless NA wins another major (cant see that happening in upcoming future)
2022-02-09 21:04
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2 replies
Nobody saw C9 winning Boston eighter, there is always hope
2022-02-09 21:06
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1 reply
thank you for positive vibes polski brother
2022-02-09 21:27
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Not cheated it was fixed to boost cs revenue in na.
2022-02-09 23:59
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axaxaxaxax dog
2022-02-09 21:00
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#70
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Denmark thekr4k3n
Damnnn..
2022-02-09 21:01
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ESIC keeps destroying cs
2022-02-09 21:02
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GUARDIAN WON MAJOR AFTER ALL!!!
2022-02-09 21:02
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1 reply
PogO
2022-02-10 00:53
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I doubt he was able to use it, after all we are talking about a guy who gave wrong map veto for his igl in major semis and when he spot his mistake he was like "yes very sad, anyway ".
2022-02-09 21:05
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#81
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Ukraine tolikowens NAVI
Niko and Guardian right now have to be super mad lol
2022-02-09 21:10
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huge
2022-02-09 21:11
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#85
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Europe hyrokin123
i knew he was hiding sth
2022-02-09 21:16
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1 reply
smug bastard tbh
2022-02-10 14:22
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#87
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Romania garcea89
Hi guys, my name is Hunden and i used to be top 3 CSGO coaches in the world but my team is toxic and they kicked me, i can sell u guys some interesting info about their strats and team really cheap, ohh also i know i 'legal' camera bug in the game, PM if interested, PLEASE BE SERIOUS!
2022-02-09 21:19
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This is why I will never ever bet on this game again…
2022-02-09 21:19
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#89
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
NIKO_1_MAJOR_CLOUD_9_0
2022-02-09 21:20
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RIP FAZE MAJOR GUARDIAN
2022-02-09 21:21
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Faze robbed feelsbadman
2022-02-09 21:22
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#99
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Italy alastt27
stewie2k no major
2022-02-09 21:29
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LOOOOOOOOOOOL
2022-02-09 21:30
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WHY VALENS, WHY
2022-02-09 21:32
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unacceptable tarik is goat he doesn’t need help from a cheater
2022-02-09 21:33
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scum MAJOR faze MAJOR
2022-02-09 21:37
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#109
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
only 100 comments in an hour of this news being posted, looks like the bug i s no longed hyped :)
2022-02-09 21:38
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#111
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Serbia bra1np
So what? He is not even active
2022-02-09 21:41
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If he reported it to the TO I don't see why he should be punished in all honesty. Not that it matters at this point. Valens is never going to coach again.
2022-02-09 21:41
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5 replies
Idk. Europeans are coping thinking that this is why Faze lost.
2022-02-09 21:45
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#118
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Brazil arcblason
I think he should be punished anyway. Its not because he reported himself that he can get away with this.
2022-02-09 21:49
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3 replies
If it's found he wasn't triggering the bug and he reported it to the TO he should still be punished? Thank god you aren't in charge.
2022-02-09 21:54
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how do you punish someone who isn't involved at all with CS?
2022-02-09 22:59
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#197
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden CharlesEmilNilsson
Call the NA police, this man is gonna serve som REAL time.
2022-02-10 06:26
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Some Europeans here on new levels of copium. This was so long ago just seems weird for it to come out now.
2022-02-09 21:44
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1 reply
most of them are just baiting
2022-02-09 22:31
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#115
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China RADNIKEY
Now FaZe fans can complain about both him and Skadoodle
2022-02-09 21:45
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Some1 pls help him, he need it youtu.be/Bu8bH2P37kY
2022-02-09 21:56
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"and contacted the TO mid-game on at least one occasion" if this is true, wtf are TOs doing
2022-02-09 22:19
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hunden would be proud
2022-02-09 22:40
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omegakek
2022-02-09 22:42
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lol why go after someone who completely left CSGO when heroic players literally admitted to cheating. it actually disgusts me how heroic got away with cheating in one of the biggest esports in history
2022-02-09 22:58
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#142
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Brazil Lok72
and with silent disclosure for still exploiting bugs
2022-02-09 23:01
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Valve doesnt really care if someone is cheating thats why. Heroic should lose their titles and prize money.
2022-02-09 23:56
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#140
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Brazil Lok72
so ESIC didnt even investigate correctly?
2022-02-09 23:01
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And??
2022-02-09 23:01
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#150
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil hugoooo
What's the fucking point of this news??? Retired people don't deserve news.
2022-02-09 23:14
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More layers?
2022-02-09 23:23
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#154
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United Kingdom b00ka
dumbass
2022-02-09 23:30
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What a suprise more cheaters in csgo. Still players can keep prize money and titles. Coaches just moved to analyst positions aka nothing happens.
2022-02-09 23:58
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#165
F1KU | 
France d0py
+1
2022-02-10 00:03
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C9 major gets a big * now
2022-02-10 00:03
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#168
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United Kingdom wellhyper
"You can't cheat in pro CS tournaments" trololol
2022-02-10 00:07
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Cool bro I don't care
2022-02-10 00:11
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I haven't been on this site since pre-covid, i see this headline on twitter, what the fuck, and thank god it wasn't during the major
2022-02-10 00:27
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#176
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Vietnam Alpha1_14
This came out of no damn where
2022-02-10 00:58
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#177
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany punisher;;
this is huge omg
2022-02-10 01:02
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#179
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
china | 
Brazil ginga do maroto
sad stuff.
2022-02-10 01:06
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indeed, but tbh i dont care about cloud 9
2022-02-10 02:29
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#194
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
china | 
Brazil ginga do maroto
it's about cs:go, not c9
2022-02-10 04:19
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#182
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil Victorhs
So the referee analyzed Valens' demos during the ESIC Witch Hunt but they decided to leave Cloud9 out of the scandal even though their coach had a free camera against Liquid? Now that's "interesting" to say the least...
2022-02-10 01:38
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He reported to TO mid game, which is what he should've done He's innocent
2022-02-10 01:43
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only on one occasion, he used the bug several times.
2022-02-10 02:32
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Why weren't all the guilty ppl banned for at least a year is bs. Players should be banned too. Sadly money rules the world so nothing was done about it. Foookin bs about integrity. Scene should sink and guilty should have punishment.
2022-02-10 03:27
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#206
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Australia jd4ddy
niko was about to be banned, but he played the disabled card. His disability prevents him from trusting others and Hunden told him that he was cheating because of their trust. I think players who know that their coach is cheating and didn't do anything about it should recieve same punishment regardless of money, disabilities, etc
2022-02-10 08:05
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#196
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Slovakia diviak
So C9 major is worth nothing now, gg
2022-02-10 05:04
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EPICENTER and cheats, name more iconic duo
2022-02-10 06:39
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#205
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Denmark Zetix02
2022-02-10 07:37
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losers
2022-02-10 08:12
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again this shit drama, maybe next time Valve will put more effort to the game.
2022-02-10 08:58
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next level coach cam wtf lol
2022-02-10 09:04
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Who cares. Needless drama.
2022-02-10 09:15
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Wasn't there a time when coaches were given the opportunity to come forward and admit they used/encountered the bug? And Valens didn't do that? Doesn't sound very honest but then again, same rules dont apply to americans as evidenced in this comment section
2022-02-10 09:41
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#214
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France Diodele
bot valens
2022-02-10 09:43
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Whats a point of ruining his legacy if he is already retired?
2022-02-10 11:24
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used bug, still lost
2022-02-10 12:57
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#221
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Canada AyyyJayyy
oh snap
2022-02-10 13:35
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cheaters should be arrested
2022-02-10 15:02
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#230
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Finland dvlx
still one of the best coach in the history of the game no way a tier 2 team like c9 would win a major if not for a brain like his
2022-02-10 15:43
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#236
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United States Perc
+1
2022-02-10 21:00
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what a loser
2022-02-10 19:06
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#235
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United States Perc
Nobody even reading the article before commenting hahaha
2022-02-10 20:59
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XAXAXAXAXA C9 major overturned
2022-02-11 00:07
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doesn't even matter anymore LOL
2022-02-11 03:18
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give the major to NiKo. NOWWWW!
2022-02-11 14:12
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#244
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North America FAZE_ROPZ
"the most surprising reveal is in a never-before seen version of the bug, in which valens is able to roam with a free-spectator camera while the round was live on Mirage in the same EPICENTER series against Liquid." Yeah, they all were able to do this, sadly nobody truly stood up for their own actions is just blamed everyone else. Ridiculous, thanks for trying to kill your own passion/sport for everyone. There should be a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY for cheaters in eSports, Pay hefty fines and lengthy bans that will definitely hurt the team overall, if the majority of the team is involved then they should be disqualified from the Majors and all rankings for the event/s(they cheated in) pulled from the books. End of story.
2022-02-11 15:06
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