Initial invites for PGL CS2 Major Copenhagen closed qualifiers revealed

18-12-2023 19:43

While still subject to change, an update to Valve's Regional Standings has revealed the initial list of invites to the closed qualifiers.

Valve have updated their Regional Standings after the conclusion of competitive play for the year, and as such the tentative invite lists for the PGL CS2 Major Copenhagen RMR closed qualifiers are now known.

16 teams have been directly invited to the closed portion of the qualification process in Europe, to be split across two qualifiers, with eight invites each being granted for the North America and South America closed qualifiers.

With regards to the Asian region, four teams have received invites for the Oceanic closed qualifier, four for the Chinese closed qualifier, three for East Asia, and one for the Middle East.

PGL unveils RMR Major qualifier locations

The qualification process for PGL Major Copenhagen begins with open qualifiers, and then proceeds to a closed qualifier stage. A raft of teams will qualify for the closed portion via the open qualifiers, but some teams have been granted direct invites based on the Regional Standings.

Teams that succeed in the closed qualifiers will proceed to the RMRs, and they will join a raft of teams who placed in the top 16 at the previous Major and retained a three-man core of those rosters.

There are still potential changes that may occur across the invite lists, for example Evil Geniuses are widely expected to disband and whether 1win or Looking For Org will field a team is currently unknown. Their invites would be passed to the next-highest-ranked team in the Regional Standings.

The initial invite lists are as follows:

To view the event page for each qualifier, click on the region.

Europe A

Europe B

North America

South America

Oceania

China

East Asia

Middle East

cool

2023-12-18 19:43

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> Europe 11 russian teams

2023-12-18 19:49

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2023-12-18 19:51

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Lmao no liquid or furia, wtf those invites lmao

2023-12-19 02:42

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both in the rmr already

2023-12-19 04:34

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Wtf Telecom Jundiaí KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

2023-12-19 11:49

Furia gets the direct RMR invite Liquid lost most of it's points and has to go through the open qualifiers

2023-12-19 14:01

EZ for SAW against russian noobs

Relax

2023-12-18 20:05

Saw wont even win a map

2023-12-18 20:28

at least learn to count

2023-12-18 19:52

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+ 10000

2023-12-18 19:56

Max 3 of them will qualify. You heard it here first

2023-12-18 19:53

and?

Not only you were wrong originally with you counting 6 russian teams in the qualifier A, you somehow edited it to also be wrong. Where the fuck have you found 11? Even if you count NaVi for some reason it is 9.

2023-12-18 20:01

ok dude u made me cry now, are u happy for exposing me ? how did u even notice

2023-12-18 20:18

Name checks out

2023-12-18 22:00

Just opened it when there was original comment, took a mental note that it was wrong, but decided - whatever. Refreshed the page and saw the edit that is also not right and here we are.

2023-12-18 22:31

btw it's time for valve to rethink RMR system and make Western Europe and Easter Europe qualifications seperated

2023-12-18 20:20

This aint the sovet union no more

2023-12-19 11:19

dota has same system

2023-12-19 15:39

Thought the same lol

2023-12-19 13:09

no NIP?

2023-12-19 23:11

2023-12-18 19:44

giving invite to a disbanded team is very valve

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2023-12-18 19:45

invites are given to the 3+ man core not to the tag.

2023-12-18 19:57

looking4org has 0 players

2023-12-18 20:19

The players still got invited because they got points. If the core get back together they will play, if not, another team will get the spot.

2023-12-19 09:46

what team is disbanded`

2023-12-18 19:59

2023-12-18 20:04

Looking4org EG 1win

2023-12-18 20:11

pog

2023-12-18 20:34

These are not official invites.

2023-12-18 20:57

The strange thing about the APAC RMR is that ME has two spots. Like why. I would've expected three of those spots going to China but I guess not.

I am more alarmed by the fact oce only has 1.

2023-12-18 19:46

I dont exactly see the problem tbh. They clearly haven't gotten any better and have been stagnant or collapsing. Even in Asia, signs of improvements are showing these past few months.

2023-12-18 19:47

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But still you are completely bottlenecking the region. Grayhound (the previous rmr winners) should take the spot. which leaves vertex + rooster screwed. China has not even qualified for a major since 2021

2023-12-18 19:55

m8, these past few years, OCE has been extremely stagnant and has not once made any improvements. Yeah COVID did a number but post-COVID, they still didnt even remotely improve. Why should they get more than one spot when they had so much time to improve but get nowhere. Meanwhile for Asia, there are obvious signs of improvement and have been working their asses off but yet get screwed because of OCE just being there to sticker money farm, which they have a high chance of failing this time around.

Realistically the small size of the rmr is making this awkward. Yes I agree OCE is currently a stagnant region that has flatlined in recent years but this won't help anything. The sticker money point makes no sense. Even with 1 slot, grayhound will be there. And if they cant beat grayhound they dont deserve stickers. and what has mena ever shown to deserve 2 slots?

2023-12-18 20:36

But everyone loves their accent, mate!

Same as all of asia... Comparison to EU aside, I'd say compared to China and other AS region, maybe except Mongolia, ANZ CS is at worst moving in a lateral direction

2023-12-18 20:00

no, China is ironically improving. Even if its not as much as TheMongolz for example.

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2023-12-18 20:02

#32

The RMR spots are divided up evenly first and then the remaining spots that can't be divided evenly are divided based on what regions have the highest ranked team. Source: github.com/ValveSoftware/counter-strike/.. East Asia has the #1 team, China has #2 (& #3) and the Middle East has #4.

I mean fair enough for valve having a set rule in place. however the rankings being quite nonsensical (especially in asia) does not help the case

Yes, the biggest issue in Asia is not having enough teams in the rankings. There are plenty of teams that exist and have existed for a while, but simply do not appear in their rankings.

2023-12-18 20:08

also TRAFFIC TASHKENT are the only MENA invited to closed and the sole reason they have 2 slots, also theres no Southeast Asian team on the VALVE rankings

2023-12-19 00:40

I think it should have 16 total spots so that it can atleast act as a premier APAC tourney in the calender, having 2 ME spots is fine if there are actually more than 8 teams, OCE with 1 and SEA with 1 seems very dumb to me

2023-12-18 20:03

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in fairness, there isn't alot of SEA teams to begin with. Just mixes and NKT who is probably the one to be there unless BLEED gets a roster in time and they have an APAC core and go towards the SEA qualifier.

Yeah. but at the same time I would love to see more of these teams get a chance at lan, having more to play for would elevate the whole region, I know many arent super interested in the region but I feel like Valve could do a little bit more to help regions that dont have much to play for and making the asian RMR have 16 teams like all the others would be a great start imo

2023-12-18 20:06

unfortunately, Asia's best hope at present is Mongolz making it to the major and then manage to make it into the top 16.

2023-12-18 20:07

I actually do have some hope for mongolz here not even gonna lie, I think top 16 is genuinely possible, they had a very good showing at Atlanta. Wont happen ofc but I would also love to see NKT make it cause of Xign and BnTeT but atleast they will be at extremesland if they dont make it

2023-12-18 20:10

I dont really care who'll make it for the second spot as long as it's not Grayhound or any OCE team.

2023-12-18 20:12

Yes, that would be nice to see.

ENCE where buddy

I think this one is for closed quals, ENCE is already on RMR

rmr

Congrats astralis on winning the cph major

0-3 stavn crying and blamef tries to uplift him but jabbi already decided to go to nip

2023-12-18 20:39

lmao

2023-12-18 22:47

EZ for stabbi

2023-12-19 10:10

Mongolz winning

My team is officially finished, looks like we’ll be farming CCTs next year

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NiP won't be here because they are locked into the RMR already for finishing in the top 16 at Paris.

2023-12-18 19:54

where can we see RMR overview?

Unfortunately, until teams confirm their rosters the best you can do is eyeball the top 16 at Paris and figure out which cores still exist: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/BLAST/Major.. Liquipedia do helpful note on their RMR pages that the former cores of Heroic, Into The Breach, Natus Vincere, and Fnatic no longer exist or are in question: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/PGL/2024/Co..

2023-12-18 20:14

ITB can still get an RMR slot if they bring Thomas back

2023-12-19 00:46

Indeed and they've announced it today.

2023-12-19 15:29

As long as NIP has Rez, K0nfig and headtr1ck they have their spot at the RMR locked from finishing top 16 at Paris Major. So potential roster changes before RMR must be with esetag or alex, if they touch the other 3 they lose their spot at the RMR. They are so far down Valves regional ranking system (around #50 if iirc) so they had ZERO chance to get an invite for the closed RMR, so if they replace any of the core of three with someone who did not play in NIP during the Paris Major they have to go trough the open RMR - And that would be impossible for NIP in their current state. They are still partner with both ESL and Blast so you can expect to see them struggle troughout 2024 - But in 2025 the partner teams are no more so this is NIP's last chance to get their shit together lmao

2023-12-18 20:51

Nip is rip

2023-12-18 21:18

They are done mann1

2023-12-18 21:21

cs2 is NIPless

2023-12-18 23:24

They should sign the madlad jks

2023-12-19 06:36

no vitality or faze is bonkers

already in rmr?

NRG eksdee

why not apeks?

they have their core so they're directly in the RMR. But they're about to lose it cause kyxsan's getting bought out by Heroic.

2023-12-18 19:48

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ah ok i mean he might not join heroic in the end, but he prolly will and that roster might just be fire

2023-12-18 19:50

Technically still have STYKO

If they brought back Styko after Kyxsan left would they retain RMR?

I think so since they'd still have to original core with Styko, Jkaem, and Nawwk, though even if Kyxsan was to leave for Heroic I don't think they'd use Styko because I think his contract expires at the end of 2023

2023-12-18 20:29

yes and no, yes because yes, no because they don't need to buy STYKO, he's still in contract with Apeks Just realized you wrote "brought", not bought, my bad

2023-12-18 20:30

eternal failure wasted spot. same with betbots

ez for TRAFFIC Tashkent

in which qualifier Liquid are going to be ? Europe ?

Americas. NA qualifier to be exact.

are we sure about that ? (sorry i didn't follow everything but I thought they were based in europe now)

yes

They will have to go through the americas open qualifier

ok i guess it's the NA qualifier so it should be easy for them, I was scared that they needed to go through EU open qualifier which would have been quite brutal

They have 3 AMER players by Valve's definition so they are guaranteed to play in either NA or SA. After that, from what we have seen the last few major cycles, they usually look at residency and Liquid are based in NA more than SA. So the logical conclusion is that they will play in the NA qualifier.

2023-12-18 19:58

oh so they are still based in NA, I thought they moved to Europe for some reason. Thanks for the precision mate

Well, I think they plan to play/live in Europe most of the time, but if you have to decided residency, I think the two NA players outweigh the one SA player. EDIT: Of course, I don't really know the exact logic Valve uses.

They did when they had Patsi and Rainwaker. Now that they have replaced them with Twistzz and skullz, they are back to a NA core.

2023-12-18 22:16

Falcons where

Falcons will have to go through the open qualifier

falcons will go straight to RMR

oh yeah they have the ENCE core now i completely forgot about their newest additions

RMR with former ENCE core.

Ez af for Spirit

ouch for rare atom

Ez4Badass

OG Eliminated SAW, AURORA And Falcons And Still Didn’t Get An Invite But These Three Teams Got It.

og is dead team rn wdym

2023-12-18 20:41

Team Liquid will win the copenhagen major

im here for it

Will their get through the Open Qualifier?

i hope so!

2023-12-18 20:52

+1 lets hope

So many Russian flags u love to see it

vitality and faze?

nvm they go stragiht to rmr

right, makes sense

Why would they be in closed qualis? They are already in rmr

gamerlegion? they're higher in those rankings than aurora, 9 pandas or forze

9pandas one tournament wonder, forze tier3 fixers only aurora decent

straight in RMR, they got core of Acor, Keoz and Isak

This breaks all the hype of SA RMR, one of the best parts is the teams killing each other in the open qualifiers lol

epic

looking for Org looking for Players

Ez for ef

Will Be Easy Like Last Time EF Tried To Qualify For The Major.

movi ain gonna make even closeds lil bro

Movi Don’t Need To Play Qualifers As They Will Get Invited To RMR Directly.

Traffic Tashkent W

Heroic banished to open qualis , hope they dont make it out of there and just rot. No ITB, sad that Ginger Zywoo isnt coming back overall, a bloodbath is about to ensue pretty soon.

why does middle east have 2 spots? OCE has just 1 as well as SEA which seems dumb to me

Aight thanks, makes more sense then, dont know if I agree with their regional rankings but I suppose TRAFFIC are fine and makes sense they are going in the ME category cause they cant really go anywhere else

2023-12-18 20:31

I mean Valve's rankings and rules are a mess, but at least these things aren't being decided arbitrarily by PGL.

2023-12-18 20:33

I think the rules are designed for the open circuit for 2025 where you cant just invite teams you want to for massive pricepools and just inflate ranking that way etc, they are also getting better and better but yeah they arent really perfect, then again i dont really feel any, like HLTV or ESL, are that great, especially the more you go down in rank

2023-12-18 20:35

Part of Valve's problem is going to be relying on HLTV for match data, if match coverage of minor regions remains poor than the ranking will remain poor. ESL's ranking is a joke if you ask me.

2023-12-18 20:38

I do not care about tier 3 tournament

hahahah

They Punished OG For Not Having A Full Team In Deadline By Inviting All The Opponents They Eliminated In The RMR.

2023-12-18 20:15

Easy qualification for icyvl0ne

They will be fighting a handful of decent(ish) teams that have been together a lot longer for a single RMR spot, but NKT should be the favorites.

Furia has to go hard way

Furia is already in the RMR

2023-12-18 20:09

where faze?

Top 8 (I think) teams from the Paris Major qualify directly to the RMR: Vitality, Gamer Legion, Faze, etc... These tournaments are pre-qualifiers for that RMR.

makes sense, ty 4 info

#119

2023-12-18 20:24

Top 16 actually, but 2 of those teams were from the Americas, so 14 total in EU. A few of those teams have fallen apart though, so the final count will end up being smaller.

Thank you for the clarification.

liquid gonna get rekt in open qualifiers by some random cheaters

2023-12-18 20:13

If professional players can't beat a group of friends who wall in mm and faceit then they don't deserve to be at the major lmao.

2023-12-18 20:55

yeah and it's NA qualifier, not EU so it should be easy for them (well I hope so)

2023-12-18 22:20

NA CS is a circus anyone can beat anyone.

2023-12-18 23:39

No g2, no faze, meanwhile eg and 1win invited omegalul

Those teams will already be through to the RMR

Why is China and East asia two separate regions should just be called East asia considering how much of a joke asian cs is.

All of the best teams come from those 2 sub-regions, they may as well get as many teams as possible from there for the RMR. Please note: I disagree about Asian CS being a joke.

2023-12-18 20:22

NA is a joke mongolz will beat any NA team

Mongolz are definitely a legit team and one of my favorites.

Mongolz are good but reality is asian cs is still behind and still sucks. no way does china deserve it's own region considering they won zero tier 1 lans in their history.

2023-12-18 20:49

+1 just another delusional NA scene coper here, seems to be many of them here lately.

2023-12-18 21:53

You're literally from Pakistan kid.

2023-12-19 03:10

"Three-man cores of teams who placed in the top 16 of the BLAST.tv Paris Major will be directly invited to the Regional Major Ranking events." so this means... vitality (apex, zywoo, spinx) gamerlegion (keoz, acor, isak) apeks (jkaem, nawwk, kyxsan) monte faze nip (k0nfig, rez, headtrick) falcons (snappi, maden, sunpayus) guild eagles g2 ence (hades, kylar, goofy) furia but not heroic, liquid, into the breach, natus vincere, fnatic. why aren't heroic and liquid in these lists?

Liquid aren't ranked at all and Heroic (assuming the core remains) aren't ranked high enough to get invited to this stage.

2023-12-18 20:32

yeah, I suppose it's opens for them. it's weird that navi's new core is so high, I guess -s1mple +w0nderful didn't lose them points or sth

Valve's ranking is a weird, not sure how it takes roster changes into account. They wind up with multiple roster versions of the same teams in their rankings all the time too. If you look right now you will see two version of Heroic on the rankings.

2023-12-18 20:44

navi changed their line-up long time ago and played in multiple events since then, liquid and heroic haven't played a single game yet with new roster

2023-12-18 21:12

Where are Team Liquid?

2023-12-18 21:30

+1 wtf I really wanna see them

2023-12-18 22:05

in NA open qualis

2023-12-18 22:07

FURIA fe get robbed (They higher than Fluxo) only because same organization... Q_Q

2023-12-18 21:42

saw the most lucky team to get a invite, hope they will work now harder to get a spot on major

2023-12-18 22:09

a few orgs not being here is strange, especially no1/2 vita and faze also wow thats is quite a few russian lineups

2023-12-18 22:12

They already in RMRs.

2023-12-18 22:33

ah yeahh that makes more sense ty i shouldve checked the standings page oops

2023-12-18 22:41

So teams may have to play 6 qualifiers and 2 group stages (which are qualifiers too) in order to play in the final event. Why don't we just pull teams from a hat instead, seems more fair to them.

2023-12-18 22:44