Editorial: Six-team playoff brackets need to go

Some of the biggest events in the world rob us of two arena matches. It's time for that to stop.

Arenas are the ultimate litmus test for teams, a place where players are thrown into a roaring lion's den and scrutinized under bright lights with nowhere to hide. A select few become talismans when they take the stage; some veterans are the showmen, while many are just part of the pack.

And then there are those who weaken, becoming prey; shadows of the players they were when pressure was off in the group stage.

It is where pressure is the highest, where the safety net of a lower bracket is stripped away, and where a chance at glory becomes tantalizingly real. Where those players who might shrink to the corners when first tossed in the den are offered the chance to gain the experience needed to take steps out of the shadows through repeated exposure.

It is Counter-Strike at its best and most raw. Why, then, have we grown accustomed to being robbed of more of that spectacle?

Even at Cologne and Katowice, six-team playoffs rule

Six-team playoff brackets have become the norm in Counter-Strike, used by ESL and BLAST in almost all of their events. Two "quarter-finals" lead into semi-finals, where two teams that won an extra group stage match after already qualifying for playoffs, against another team that also already qualified for playoffs, are waiting.

Even IEM Cologne and IEM Katowice (soon IEM Kraków), the events considered by many as the closest in glory to the Majors, suffer from this condition.

PGL's return to the calendar and Majors offer the only glimpses of what once was the norm, when teams weren't simply gifted a chance for a better result without challenging the roar of the crowd.

From an organizer's side, it makes sense. A true playoff bracket, with four quarter-finals and no direct semi-finals berth, requires either a costly extra day in an arena to split the quarter-finals or a packed day with four best-of-three series. The former option is not an appealing one for tournament operators already bleeding capital, and the latter results in a lengthy day for the broadcast crew and the teams waiting to play — less so with MR12, but a consideration all the same.

But competitively and narratively, it is a travesty.

Teams can look unbeatable in a studio but collapse on stage, and players can go from stars to silent. The "studio merchants" moniker followed MOUZ for over a year, and now Aurora are struggling to overcome that same tag. The Turks were one of the teams that skipped straight to the semi-finals at BLAST Open Lisbon after a strong group stage, but stumbled against MOUZ once on stage.

Azbayar "⁠Senzu⁠" Munkhbold disappeared under the bright lights in early playoff appearances, leaving The MongolZ bereft of their star when it mattered most, and only overcame it before the Austin Major.

Senzu overcame his nerves on stage, but only after numerous stumbles

The only way past this hurdle is through raw exposure — no matter what MOUZ might tell you about simulated crowd noise at their bootcamp facility — and The MongolZ and MOUZ are living proof.

With only two quarter-finals, some teams are cheated of that chance entirely, those with less experience left to spend years chasing just a taste of the action. Those who level up in an arena have fewer chances to showcase it, and teams that perform in a lower-stakes group stage match are gifted with an immense advantage.

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That is, perhaps, one of the most egregious parts of this format we've grown so accustomed to. Allowing a team to win two group stage matches to qualify for the arena and then secure a top-four berth by beating a third team in the upper bracket final, avoiding an entire match in the arena and all the pressure, stakes, and prestige that comes with it, is a farce.

An arena is everything, yet it is not a test dealt equally to those who would conquer it. And whether players will admit it or not, the motivation to win, fear, and pressure when playing in that safe group stage match are a fraction of what you'd feel with elimination on the line in a quarter-final on stage.

True, those who top the group stage are often the best in the world anyway. But is it fair to elevate them so far past the rest, avoid an arena match entirely and deny a lower-ranked team that might clinch the seventh or eighth spot in an arena the chance to put up a fight at least? Outside of Vitality's dominant Spring season, teams are more even than ever, and that mettle should be tested where Counter-Strike is at its best.

We've grown so accustomed to this being the norm. This version of the format has been in use since Katowice 2018 and is now employed for almost all of ESL's events.

Before that, teams used to skip to the semi-final based on topping round-robin groups, so while what we have now is an improvement, it is a makeshift one.

It has been almost eight years since this format became the norm after IEM Katowice, and longer still since teams have skipped to semis

BLAST's eight-team events with a six-team playoff bracket are an even worse offender. A single win in the group stage means you are through to the arena, two put you through to the semi-finals, and only two teams from the field miss out.

You could say that the other two are given a chance to play in an arena that otherwise would have had just four teams, the very thing I push for above, but often these events are attended by the top teams that are already staples in the playoffs of the biggest tournaments — so really, it is just more of the same.

That format remains in action in 2025 through BLAST Rivals, while BLAST's Open tournaments have copied ESL's 16-team format. Lisbon was the first with it on display, before BLAST Open London became a distinct outlier and the worst offender by playing its group stage online. Teams that won three online matches skipped straight to the semi-final, and again just six teams headed to the OVO Wembley Arena to take the stage.

The Majors and PGL's events, using Swiss group stages, are among the few that still boast a true eight-team playoff bracket, and I thank them for it. Seeing teams actually tested, given new opportunities, and not having to watch the same, dull group stage framing, tournament after tournament, is a blessing.

Imagine if in Austin, The MongolZ, a 3-2 team, missed a six-team playoffs and weren't given the chance to prove themselves on stage against FaZe? What if Spirit never played MOUZ in the quarter-finals because they went 3-0 in the group stage and skipped to the semis, or paiN weren't able to build upon their first arena appearance at PGL Cluj-Napoca by beating FURIA?

Playing in the eight-team arena playoffs in Cluj gave Rodrigo "⁠biguzera⁠" Bittencourt's side some crucial experience under the lights before the Major, an opportunity that is far harder to come by when the two biggest organizers in the scene are operating a playoff with 25% fewer teams than a traditional bracket.

I used the Major scenario as an intentional false analogy; its format is not that of ESL's or BLAST's. It is to illustrate what their formats deny us and just how accustomed to them we have become, to show how nonsensical it would be if applied to something like the Major.

Why then, do we sit content with the Colognes, Katowices, $1 million IEMs, and BLAST events that use them ad infinitum? Surely there is a better solution.

ESL had a rotating stage at IEM Katowice 2019, allowing players from the next match to already be setup during the previous game

Neither ESL or BLAST has tried running a day with four quarter-finals in an arena, and there are options to condense time between games. Multiple setups with a rotating stage would allow for the next teams to warm up on the same PCs they'll play on during the game, which could cut down the time the organizers have promised to give teams before their games.

It's not even an unfamiliar one for ESL, which ran that very setup for the group stage of IEM Katowice 2019. And with MR12 reducing the length of games and a few shorter breaks, four best-of-threes in a day is not out of the realm of possibility.

PGL and FISSURE have already proved the concept, operating several tournaments with eight-team brackets that kept the ground level for all playoff teams, legitimizing runs and offering more stage matchups for fans and players alike.

BLAST and ESL could comfortably operate their formats during their duopoly, but competition is rife among the organizers again. True playoff brackets are returning all around them, elevating the quality of Counter-Strike being played, and it's time to catch up for the good of the game.

Mongolia Azbayar 'Senzu' Munkhbold
Azbayar 'Senzu' Munkhbold
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Brazil Rodrigo 'biguzera' Bittencourt
Rodrigo 'biguzera' Bittencourt
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idk i think its fun to have different bracket types. imagine if every tournament had identical progression, kinda boring
2025-09-23 20:48
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Honduras tIdr
common tyIer W
2025-09-23 20:50
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common?
2025-09-23 21:21
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wtf novvy hates me im sobbing rn
2025-09-23 21:22
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sorry pookie
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gay
2025-09-24 15:44
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yes <3
2025-09-24 15:48
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#156
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Poland Botaz
Ye i agree but not on kato or cologne... If u wajt your events to be prestigious i need 8 team playoff.
2025-09-24 10:14
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No, teams going straight from the groups to the semi-finals is nonsense.
2025-09-23 21:01
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why?
2025-09-23 21:04
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Literally a whole ass article above the comments explaining why
2025-09-23 21:20
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yeah i read it i wanted to hear friendly_fire's reasoning
2025-09-23 21:22
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fair enough, have a nice day
2025-09-23 21:23
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because the level of competition in the groups is lower, and missing a playoff game is detrimental to both the competition and the entertainment value
2025-09-23 21:31
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Because its lame giving a team a higher placement and prize money for winning a group stage than a team that lost an unimportant group stage match then proceeded to play a stage match and lose
2025-09-23 21:49
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its not an unimportant group stage match if it means they dont get to skip to semis lol
2025-09-23 21:50
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Why would anyone give someone a higher placement for doing better in a group stage with no crowd than beating someone with a crowd? Also it is low stakes because they make it to playoffs anyway. Most teams who go to playoffs want to win, not to get to semis. It doesn't matter to these teams as long as they make it to playoffs. Hence its a mickey mouse match that no one gives a fuck about because they don't have to take it seriously. Mouz making it to semis consistently by being group stage merchants is THE definition of the group stage match being unimportant because guess what they did after making to semis. Nothing.
2025-09-23 22:11
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#129
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Netherlands p2dr
^ if anyone needs a TL:DR on the article
2025-09-23 23:44
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tn1r flair being based, didnt expect anything else
2025-09-23 21:05
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Even the definition of quarter-finals implies there are 4 matches
2025-09-24 06:35
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#41
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Japan asyl1m
I just want double elimination playoffs.
2025-09-23 21:07
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#140
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malbsMd | 
Vietnam AverageMinh
this is fair they could just bring the entire last day to the arena first day playoff is upper and lower bracket finals of group stage there you go, an 8 team playoff
2025-09-24 02:15
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But Blast and ESL both do this and it's like 70% of tier 1 tournaments. It already is boring
2025-09-23 21:14
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yes that's why they wrote an article complaining about it
2025-09-23 22:54
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I was talking to a HLTV user who needs meds. They can't read
2025-09-24 20:23
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u rite mb i cant read either lol
2025-09-24 20:33
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#85
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United States JusJus
unsure if bait
2025-09-23 21:37
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#103
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United States cybonics
I'd much rather see a double elim bracket for playoffs instead of these 6 team ones
2025-09-23 22:01
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hope blast try a 5 team playoffs next season
2025-09-23 23:16
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#136
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China RADNIKEY
Let them bring back their original round robin format
2025-09-24 00:42
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Unless it's a completely garbage sure, some variety is nice
2025-09-23 23:40
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bo3 swiss is most exciting by far tho, splitting up the whole team pool so most teams have about zero chance of facing each other is so damn ass as well as being able to make playoffs with 2-1 record..
2025-09-24 08:42
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I disagree Why is this even first comment...
2025-09-24 11:32
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yeah imagine being able to compare actual tournaments and stuff. half the quarter final matches are bit in the arena -> 1/4 of the quarter final teams do not get arena practice. super stupid cencept.
2025-09-24 12:57
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jcobbb | 
Poland WarZywOoo
This
2025-09-23 20:45
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haven't read but 100% true
2025-09-23 20:45
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nick
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mike
2025-09-23 20:58
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ivan
2025-09-23 23:59
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Sasha
2025-09-24 07:01
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Real
2025-09-24 00:36
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real
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#4
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Poland Gale18
agree, this playoffs sucks
2025-09-23 20:45
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#5
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United States bas1cal
BIG
2025-09-23 20:46
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TRUE That is why PGL is GOATED
2025-09-23 20:47
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Disagree
2025-09-23 20:46
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#104
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Canada minibeech
yeah fuck it lets go for 3man playoffs.
2025-09-23 22:04
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you're titled to your wrong opinion.
2025-09-23 22:31
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I didn't read it yet, but I bet the answer to your proposition is because money. Now I'm gonna go read it and see if I was right. Thanks for the article <3
2025-09-23 20:46
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Ukraine duareklaze
Yes
2025-09-23 20:46
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dont even need to read, 100% true good nohte take as always
2025-09-23 20:46
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true
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#12
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mzinho | 
World clipse
Yes indeed.
2025-09-23 20:47
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Yes, we deserve proper double elimination playoff brackets like they have in most Dota, LoL, and Valorant tournaments!
2025-09-23 20:47
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make space for s1mple in the arena, he will need it, ez for the goat NEXT 4 MAJORS IN A ROW FOR THE GOAT
2025-09-23 20:47
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MOUZ studio merchants. based.
2025-09-23 20:47
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#16
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Finland Fintoto
Bring back double elim
2025-09-23 20:48
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big tournaments like cologne should be 8 teams playoffs. ez to schedule this
2025-09-23 20:48
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#19
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Poland FezNY0
YEAH BUDDY
2025-09-23 20:48
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6-team playoffs never make sense
2025-09-23 20:48
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#25
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African Union darkoplax
it does for attending fans and organizers
2025-09-23 20:52
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Why would fans be against watching more games in the arena?
2025-09-23 21:36
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#109
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African Union darkoplax
because fans usually go to the arena to watch their fav team, buying a ticket and praying is not as good at least when you buy quarter tickets, you know who will be there when you buy semis ticket you know 2/4 of the teams that will be there thats at least the reasoning ESL used before that its better for arena attending fans to know in advance who will be there; its better than having an empty stadium like Rio
2025-09-23 22:15
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You raise a decent point and maybe the event lasts a bit longer if they do Swiss stage instead of the groups too
2025-09-24 02:06
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#165
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Finland Liukasxd
Don't you need to buy tickets alot earlier when you dont even know any teams in playoffs? When there is 8 teams you have a better chance of seeing your team play. If you buy a ticket to a tournament, you are going to watch it. This emtpy stadium thing is only a problem in brazil
2025-09-24 14:32
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Common HLTV W
2025-09-23 20:49
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TRUTH NUKE
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#24
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African Union darkoplax
Bring back Double Elim 8 Team or at least just 8 Team I want more teams to experience playoff crowds
2025-09-23 20:52
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#26
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Poland Jxcek
Honestly, should make it 8 team playoff, or make it more fun, 16 team playoffs
2025-09-23 20:52
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Basednbasedbasedbasedbased
2025-09-23 20:53
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Agreed
2025-09-23 20:54
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Completly True get rid of this
2025-09-23 20:57
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#31
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Brazil Bruno_20
six-team playoffs suck, but same bracket types suck even more!
2025-09-23 20:59
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Sure, more arena gams are better. But i really dislike the way the TOs are squishing 4 games into a single game. You end up with worse crowds for almost all the games and a fatiguing run time.
2025-09-23 21:00
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No objections.
2025-09-23 21:00
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All big events should include four quarter-finals. Respectfully
2025-09-23 21:02
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I think this is the frist time I’ve ever agreed with u so: Extremely super rare exotic mythical W from Ctrl_Alt_AleksiBob Respectfully
2025-09-23 21:12
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#60
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Ukraine Galandec
and do them in one day starting at 9am in empty arenas, no thank you
2025-09-23 21:22
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#73
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Finland Karppanator
Game at least happens > game doesn't happen because someone wants to make more money by only having 6 games of playoffs
2025-09-23 21:31
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#80
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Ukraine Galandec
no I would rather don't watch those cringe game,s which pretends to be in big arenas, however, it is empty
2025-09-23 21:34
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#82
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Finland Karppanator
At this point I think youre on the payroll of TO's when you say shit like this More CS>less CS, especially in playoffs
2025-09-23 21:35
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#86
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Ukraine Galandec
dude we have one of the worst circuit in cs history with events LITERALLY playing EVERY WEEK and u want more cringe cs. Then whatever, but I prefer QUALITY of quantity
2025-09-23 21:39
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#88
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Ukraine Galandec
over*
2025-09-23 21:39
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ah yes the "quality" of having the same teams and the same organizers over and over again it shows how new you are to CS
2025-09-23 22:15
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#121
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Ukraine Galandec
new lmao yeah same teams and organizers ah no How people watch sport idk
2025-09-23 22:36
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Not necessarily. Do them at evening but start on the day earlier. Respectfully
2025-09-23 21:32
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#79
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Ukraine Galandec
we cannot seel tickets for 3 days in most events and u say about four days, yeah it doesn't work like that
2025-09-23 21:33
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#38
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Poland ScR1337
200% agree
2025-09-23 21:06
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#39
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Poland P4wl1k
Agree, especially S-tier events like Cologne and Kraków (Katowice)
2025-09-23 21:06
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#40
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Canada max07
Agree
2025-09-23 21:06
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#42
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Serbia DRogla17
For me those playoffs are just a consequence of 8 team groups. They primarily need to go. GSL groups are best format 100%. Yes, there would be repeating matches. But for me it's ok if the best teams will go through which will almost always be the case with GSL groups.
2025-09-23 21:08
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#81
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Ukraine Galandec
those are gsl groups lmao
2025-09-23 21:35
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Serbia DRogla17
Gsl are 4 team groups. Winners of opening matches play eachother, same for losers. Then two 1-1 teams play for the remaining spot.
2025-09-23 21:58
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#43
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Norway matsdeff
Of course. It's a very weird format.
2025-09-23 21:10
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agree. one semi win to final makes no sense to me
2025-09-23 21:11
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Ez rooster
2025-09-23 21:12
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#47
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Yugoslavia bigtito
Counterpoint: I was at the Austin Major and the first day took 10+ hours. It was fun and I'm happy the day was long but I would prefer to not be at an event for more than 8 hours.
2025-09-23 21:13
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#58
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Ukraine Galandec
4 matches could take 16 hours, just insanely dumb
2025-09-23 21:21
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#48
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Italy PavIusha
100%.
2025-09-23 21:13
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@Nohte cooked with this article
2025-09-23 21:14
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4 QF matches , BO5 Grand finals, pro-player (commentary on upcoming matches if they are available like in the old majors) thats all we need
2025-09-23 21:16
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I love the Dota 2 style brackets with loser brackets.
2025-09-23 21:16
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#53
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Latvia YungPan666
I remember that Blast was running 6 team quarterfinals in studio and only started arena matches at semis, anyway I think 8 team playoffs are kind of hard, because it's either arena staring on thursday or 4 matches a day which is also lame.
2025-09-23 21:17
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#56
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Ukraine Galandec
it will always will be 4 matches for regular events and it's stuper lame, empty arenas, useless matches, etc
2025-09-23 21:21
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#54
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Ukraine Galandec
Do not AGREE AT ALL, I don't need matches starting at 9am in empty arenas
2025-09-23 21:19
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Editorialist knew their take would only make sense without stats. Take 2025 stats. How many teams qualified direct to semi won their game? A fact based writer would give us that stat. They did not. Guess why.
2025-09-23 21:21
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#67
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Ukraine Galandec
agree, super lame article, like if the world be pink and all good, yeah we could do 8 teams play off and do it as on the major in four days, but having one day with 4 matches played in a day is so lame, watching it is just sad
2025-09-23 21:26
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Rare hltv editorial W
2025-09-23 21:22
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#68
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Ukraine Galandec
L
2025-09-23 21:26
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yes
2025-09-23 21:23
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Hmm
2025-09-23 21:26
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#70
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Brazil hugoooo
We need classic CPL double elimination brackets, fuck groups
2025-09-23 21:26
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#71
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jcobbb | 
Poland Berbe123
Agree
2025-09-23 21:27
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#72
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Finland Karppanator
AMEN 6 team playoffs are worse in every way possible, they promote worse CS, they rob 2 games out of the playoffs AND they favor the teams that won their groups too much with the skipped quarters, who are almost every time the highest seed, whether they're the best or they always get through the groups the easiest because of the seeding.
2025-09-23 21:28
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#76
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Ukraine Galandec
they do not promote any cs lmao they do not rob 2 games of playoffs as they hosted in empty arenas, there should be some favor for teams winning their groups and what else it could be. Also u could not win group due to bad seeding, make it to playoff yes, win no
2025-09-23 21:32
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Agree so much. 6 team playoffs just suck
2025-09-23 21:33
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#87
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Czech Republic maXX_CZ
I would like to have proper bracket, at least for milion+ tournaments who - i believe - can afford that. It would mean "better" tournament for me. But what is more important, i am literally 0% interested in BO1 MR12 matches. If major comes with this crap and swiss system i'll skip to the good part. Ye, there might be some upsets, but tournament as important as major should try to eliminate this, not vice versa.
2025-09-23 21:40
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it sucks that reaching semifinals means nothing anymore. except for major semis, its really just reaching finals that can contribute to a teams resume.
2025-09-23 21:40
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#95
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Ukraine Galandec
do u really cared about liquid reaching semi in fpg 2 or astalis in astana or faze in cluj. The problem is not in bracket but rather in amount of events
2025-09-23 21:52
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#114
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Poland Saruman69
exactly. i would even argue that should be 1 major in year
2025-09-23 22:19
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#122
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Ukraine Galandec
i would like to be 1 major and second more important like msi and worlds
2025-09-23 22:36
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MASSIVE W
2025-09-23 21:41
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#96
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Finland Tusku
shame teams will not ditch esl and blast even with their inferior events
2025-09-23 21:52
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tbh if an event is s tier but smaller it could make for 6 teams playoffs. what needs to go is bo1 in major with bo3 final
2025-09-23 21:54
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#98
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Japan Kiriji
For sure. It's bad
2025-09-23 21:55
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W
2025-09-23 21:56
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Nohte once again establishes himself as GOAT, next episode needs to be TOs Come Here
2025-09-23 21:59
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arent reading all of that but W article
2025-09-23 21:59
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I agree, but it just seems to be a cost cutting measure for the TOs. Unless more money is injected into the scene I dont see how it changes unless Fissure/PGL gain a huge advantage on ESL/blast that run this format. Since 99% of fans dont spend a dime watching the sport its a fair exchange. Also, RL has reported on ESL cost cutting big time attempting to be profitable by like 2026. Saudi isnt going to invest in expanding the format.
2025-09-23 22:07
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#107
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Switzerland Husey13
agree w
2025-09-23 22:11
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NICE ALT ACCOUNT JNUPS
2025-09-23 22:14
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#125
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Australia JNUPS
based
2025-09-23 22:39
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#111
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Brazil MSS1822
Big w
2025-09-23 22:16
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Absolutely
2025-09-23 22:17
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#113
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United States andw3r
truth nuke
2025-09-23 22:18
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remove mouz vs vitality grand finals
2025-09-23 22:19
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Common HLTV W
2025-09-23 22:21
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a team going straight to semi finals and 4 team quarter finals is the worst bracket ever. PGL format is goated.
2025-09-23 22:29
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"It is Counter-Strike at its best and most raw." I think I'm always going to disagree with this. Huge arenas with thousands in the crowd are not "pure" or "raw" CS. To me, those words go better with the old LAN party settings of the past. It's a fun spectacle, sure. It's also a very high pressure environment. It might even be the environment you and many people prefer to measure your players against. But it's certainly not "raw" cs.
2025-09-23 22:31
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we should've 16, 12, 8, 6, 4 team playoff brackets all variations
2025-09-23 22:39
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#124
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Honduras vzrvzr
I liked the starladder bracked but I could see how its tough to implement in the case of major tournaments. The 2 quarter final format needs to go tho.
2025-09-23 22:39
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AI generated no?
2025-09-23 23:45
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arguing over nothing
2025-09-23 23:59
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#133
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Estonia rYm
agree
2025-09-24 00:11
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only fair alternatives for 3-0"s out of swiss is double bracket with 3-2 direct in loser bracket then
2025-09-24 00:34
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Agree.
2025-09-24 01:26
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This and making the major grand final a bo5, GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT. I already have to hear on and on from the casters that my favorite team sucks, let alone never see them in an arena, or get to the arena just to choke in the quarter final
2025-09-24 02:15
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Give us PGL format you stupid ESL and Blast.
2025-09-24 02:49
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Should've never had this dogshit format to start with. Who tf came up with teams going straight to semi's.
2025-09-24 02:52
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Obviously
2025-09-24 02:59
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#144
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GuardiaN | 
Other Darge
Yes, please! It's one of the worst formats I've seen in over 15 years of following the scene, it needs to go now!
2025-09-24 03:37
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Based Nohte take as usual
2025-09-24 04:54
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#146
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World waltsuu
i agree but this 6 team format is the only one which makes group match imporant too. hard to say if its good or bad or neutral.
2025-09-24 04:59
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#150
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Poland powerdvl
4 QFs + 3rd place decider are goated
2025-09-24 07:21
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tldr anyone?
2025-09-24 08:13
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Less money for selling tickets More money for betting Makes sense)
2025-09-24 08:33
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#154
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United States erokmofo
Remember the old days when group stage tournaments were rare and most were just double Elim from the start
2025-09-24 09:32
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two bo3 max per day is good if you are at the event. Friday would be kinda tight to have 4 matches and starting a tournament on a Thursday would make it hard to get to the place as a spectator when you have a job.
2025-09-24 09:49
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yes
2025-09-24 11:08
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I 100% agree with you. All leagues in all sports and esports in the world are based on play off system with teams playing quarterfinal to go to semis and etc. Everyone who is not stupid understand that teams playing different in front of audience and it is important. 3-0 teams like Furia and GL who has good day and easy opponents go strait to semis and vitality and spirit goes to quarters... ) And we understand that they play 6 teams in the play offs just to save money. This is a joke and unacceptable for serious e-spots. It is more competitive to play 8 teams play-off so stop saving money for CS world cost and bring normal system to us
2025-09-24 11:41
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#160
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Germany JDKiwnl
Yup cologne only having 6 team playoffs for example is such a shame man
2025-09-24 12:16
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agree100%. I always wonder why there is not more talk about this. I understand that it is difficult to organize 4 quarter finals in the arena (thursday matches have low amount of crowd and so on). But having essentially 2/8 quarter final teams not play the arena is utter bs. It also looks really shit when you exit in group stage, but basically played a quarter final in the end?! All in all it is really stupid format, going out of groups with 2 losses seams stupid too. Might not matter for a tier 1 team that will play the next s-tier tournament 2 weeks after, but for the slightly lower teams the it has a huge impact (1 game less visibility -> sponsor payments go down; more travel costs per match played, less official LAN games to pearn from...)
2025-09-24 13:03
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Agreed on principle (in terms of narrative and competition), but a diverse kind of bracket is good. Always seeing the same format is hella boring.
2025-09-24 13:10
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if only they could bring back the lower bracket format like Dota 2 TI
2025-09-24 14:33
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#169
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United States NickyJ
Agreed, for the true S-Tier (Krakow, Major, Cologne) they should never have a 6 team bracket. For other tournaments, why not, it needs to be diverse among TOs and certain tournaments imo. Keeps it fresh
2025-09-24 15:52
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Article makes a good point. Just a shame no HLTV journalists can write a good article:((
2025-09-24 17:13
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#172
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Iceland Barkleys
Good post!
2025-09-24 18:21
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Editorial: BO1s and BO3 grand finals at the Major need to go
2025-09-25 02:31
1
valve try everything to shorten the game, and you guys simply compensate it
2025-09-25 12:12
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#177
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Korea garukno
wow an article that i actually agree
2025-09-25 14:54
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8 team brackets should be the norm
2025-09-25 17:28
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There's an urge to make big arena events, full of passionate fans, just to say "hey guys, look how big cs is, huh?" but I liked a lot of the atmosphere at the IEM MAJOR RIO 2022 challengers and group play, where we got that much smaller crowd, huge isn't always better. Smaller spaces are cheaper, so there's way to have one more day of it, and will sure be completely full in the finals, we often have seen these big arenas with empty spaces, so, whats the point?
2025-09-26 13:33
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